Do you think the movie did this story justice?

@Unsweetened8618

7 ай бұрын

DiCaprio should've played Tom White. But he just love's, to play the villian.

@ChubbyChecker182

7 ай бұрын

​@@Unsweetened8618Plimmons would have been perfect as Earnest.

@Unsweetened8618

7 ай бұрын

He sure would've, DiCaprio don't fit that Villains archetype.

@JM-ex2lj

7 ай бұрын

Nah

@GayleTate

7 ай бұрын

​@@Unsweetened8618Leo wanted to play the more complicated character Hale is the biggest villain

There is another story that is missing from the movie. My Great Grandfather William W Vaughan was helping the Osage gather evidence of the murders. He was working with a man named Big Heart. There is a cameo appearance of Big Heart in the movie. My Great Grandfather was murdered on a train he was taking from Oklahoma city with the evidence. he had gathered after he went to Big Hearts deathbed. (Poisoned) This left his wife with 10 children. His business partner stole the evidence and all the money he had left for her. The Osage raised my grandfather and his brothers and fed the family, after his murder.

@missanthrope2

6 ай бұрын

These mason put their names and symbols on everything they touch. See * Mason Mafia the business of crime. * The native was forced onto reservation concentration camps then murdered one at a time by the mason. Hitler was a mason

@missanthrope2

6 ай бұрын

See ( icanto quartet the sound of silence )

@joelcannan7686

6 ай бұрын

I just read about this, they threw him from the train as he was taking the evidence to washington? He was found with a broken neck, that's insane that was your grandfather. So sorry it wasn't included in the movie.

@missanthrope2

6 ай бұрын

@@joelcannan7686 yes they was killers, according to history books Mr.Charles Dawes the dawes commissioner in charge if auditing the list of who ... Is on rolls. Personnaly shot 1000 native children. Which made him go deaf in both ears... How can a person in charge of hearing the Evidence be 100% Deaf in both ears??? And do a good job of hearing the evidence. Adolph Hitler wanted to be like Charles Dawes.

@donnawalko2937

5 ай бұрын

I'm glad you added this comment. I just finished the book and know that there are so many people actually affected and this video just shows the "big names'. My condolences for your lost of a very important and dynamic person of history.

We need to include more of these stories in our American History education. I'm 60 and have never heard of the Osage.

@debbielinhart3823

7 ай бұрын

I had family in Osage County documented from 1900-the late 1950’s, including living in Gray Horse and Fairfax, and I hadn’t heard much about this until I read the book.

@SKC193

7 ай бұрын

@@debbielinhart3823 I was born & raised in Hominy & knew many Osage, including my best friend. I’m about to turn 70 but I’d never heard about it until I read the book! My grandparents’ property was separated from the “Indian Village” by a ditch.

@kassinwonderland22

7 ай бұрын

It's up to the American people to learn more about their history and not rely just on what they learn from school. Most schools in America omit a ton of America's horrific past, as it doesn't look good for the country. You'd never find stories like this in any American public school book. Educate yourself

@cheycheyfriend247

7 ай бұрын

we arent taught to want to learn for ourselves. and thats by design @@kassinwonderland22

@bison1203

6 ай бұрын

I live in Oklahoma, moved here my sophomore year of high school, and I am always astounded by how little people outside of this state know about Native American history. We did not learn a lot in school, but any means, but it seems like there is even less taught throughout the country. It is sad and, honestly, a real loss. The history and people are fascinating.

The book starts off with the murder of Ana. Also the entire back history of Tom White and his significance to the story is missing. Not to mention the entire history of the FBI and every dealing with J. Edgar Hoover. But I see from a cinematic perspective, focusing more of the love story between Ernest and Mollie would make more sense. The book is full of detail and backstory that would be hard to fully translate for a film adaptation, even if the movie is over 3 hours LONG!!! But I found both to be good in their own way. Both however pay homage and respects to the Osage and the terrible horrors that were inflicted upon them.

@NurseKayP

7 ай бұрын

I’m glad you mentioned this. I haven’t read the book and I had planned to read it before seeing the film, because I always prefer to read the book first. I took my daughter and her friends theater for them to see a movie and I saw this film was playing so I jumped on opportunity since I was going to be at the theater. The film was long, 3.5 hours and it was done really well. It didn’t seem like the film dragged or that the runtime was unnecessary. I still left feeling like there was more to the story and more I needed to know like it was as only brushing the surface of the injustices that occurred. I plan on reading the book soon and hope it will add even more context to the story.

People really seem to forget that it’s not a documentary but an adaptation of a story…

@moniqueengleman873

7 ай бұрын

Loosely based on a true story. 🧐

@530MAIDU

7 ай бұрын

So, it’s not obvious that indigenous Native American Tribes were exterminated…🙇🏻‍♀️🤔. My Tribe in Northern California has documented history of the attempted Extermination and yes, we endured the Termination ERA which was a legitimate Law. 🙋🏻‍♀️🇺🇸

@StellarFella

6 ай бұрын

@@530MAIDU Comfort, convenience, and profit engender a highly skewed or suppressed history that we readily swallow. The way the west was not, is burned into our personal and national consciousness nonetheless. We continue to destroy peoples and nations over oil as we did in 1953 when we installed the Shah in Iran. Iran is the Frankenstein we created. And we have alienated the Arab nations except for about 2,000 members of the house of Saud in Arabia. Up to 3 trillion dollars are concentrated in that small group.

Film was amazing. The 3.5 hours literally flew by. It was not boring at all. GO see it!

@Junior_Rocky

7 ай бұрын

Yes, GO SEE IT!!! 👍👍‼️

@NurseKayP

7 ай бұрын

Agreed. It was great film. It was crazy to me that such a long film still only seemed to touch the surface of all the injustice suffered by the Osage. Don’t get me wrong I think it was done well, but the film made me want to explore the matter further because of the magnitude of the crimes, the level of corruption, and sheer number of victims and perpetrators involved. I will have to read the book. I had planned to read it prior to the film because I usually like to do the book first but I didn’t get to it yet.😊

@Tonybologne805

6 ай бұрын

Book was better, go read it

In the scene were the assassin puts the gun the woman's hand, my first thought was that his fingerprints were still on the gun. But, the FBI just starting up, fingerprinting was not a thing yet.

@L16htW4rr10r

7 ай бұрын

And even if the fingerprint is a thing, I assume the cops in that city were also corrupt and working with Hale to cover it up. This is just my observation based on what the movie show

@grrrund

7 ай бұрын

Sybil Bolton 💗

@CritLoren

6 ай бұрын

@@L16htW4rr10r "She must've stolen my gun"

As an American NDN, KUDOS to David Grann, author of “Killers of the Flower Moon,” Martin Scorsese and Eric Roth, movie script writers, and all the actors who played their parts realistically in their roles; Lily Gladstone, Robert De Niro, Leonardo DiCaprio did an outstanding portrayal in their roles. Reading the book first before watching movie is recommended. There were so many NDN nuances that others may not notice. I cried when the drum, singing, and dancers were brought out at the end of the movie. My heart is happy that I am NDN and to be included in this revelation through this historical movie portrayal. May the Great Spirit continue to bless us with enlightenment and continue to bless us in opposing inequality, injustice, and exclusiveness everywhere. LU-LU-LU-LU!

@adam007ize

7 ай бұрын

But are you genuinely indigenous, or majority White with a tiny bit of native ancestry like Lilly Gladstone. Most fully indigenous people I’ve spoken to, whether it’s been from my Mayan, Zapotec n Nahuat friends in Mexico n Guatemala, or Guarani n Kayapo people I know in Brazil n Paraguay, or Quechua people I know in Peru think it’s highly offensive that a white woman played Mollie, when the actual mollie was full blood indigenous

@KittyVirata-jy4yz

7 ай бұрын

Lilly Gladstone is Blackfoot, through and through, I grew up with some of her family right here on the Salish kootenai reservation four hours from the Blackfoot reservation the reservation that Lilly is from, to call her white because Europeans came in here and raped our people. Is disgusting to say the least, and atrocious to say the most.

@KittyVirata-jy4yz

7 ай бұрын

The peoples you mention like Zapotec and Nahuatl are not even plains indigenous as Lilly Gladstone is. A whole different world view.

That crap still goes on today.

@redbone8844

7 ай бұрын

That part

@8188jlpc

7 ай бұрын

yea

Just watched the movie and it was eye opening. Truly monstrous acts that were done to them. I have to say DeNiron and Dicaprio earned Oscar noms. Now Lily Gladstone on the other hand, if she does not get an Oscar nomination it will be an absolute travesty. She was absolutely breathtaking. I don't think I've ever felt so bad for a person the way I felt bad for Mollie Kyle. The way I rooted for Hale and Ernest to get caught.

@adam007ize

7 ай бұрын

Mollie is full blooded indigenous in reality, yet is played by a white women who claims to have a small percentage of indigenous blood. Stop white washing characters, surely there’s plenty of actual indigenous actresses who could’ve taken that part. Or at least find someone who is half indigenous, rather than someone who is 2% indigenous ancestry. There’s loads of Latina actresses who have genuine indigenous ancestry

@aydandraws9444

6 ай бұрын

​@@erzylopeztbh it's not about the general public ignoring it. it's more about the people in charge education system failing to teach it.

@user-en5kx3ks1i

5 ай бұрын

Hale was a segregationist and an influential member of the Democratic Party in Osage County. He had considerable influence over the local Osage County prosecutor. During his election campaign, the prosecutor sought Hale's endorsement and after receiving it won every precinct near Hale's ranch.

The film really didn't leave much out at all. I was familiar with the story before seeing it and was impressed with how much of it they covered

@julianyc422

11 күн бұрын

Actual names, Who the Oil Barrons were that supported the murder, facts, white supremecy and the KKK. But sure, only that was left out.

It's so damn horrible wat they went thru, it's their land and they got prosecuted for them. It's absolutely disgusting n horrible wat they endured

@davidcopson5800

6 ай бұрын

*what

Holy s**t, that was insane. And at the same time of the Tulsa massacre. The bigger concern was: if the blacks and native Americans started working together, the status quo would flip.

I would say that the one complaint I had with the movie was it glossed over the part these major corporations played in swindling the Osage out of their mineral rights and fortunes. There is a documentary in the works that Leo and his father are producing that is supposed to explore this further and also look at what happened to the Osage after the time period of the murders.

@donnawalko2937

5 ай бұрын

so it still shows that leo is willing to do whatever for movies but honestly knows the truth so that he will then make more money from his documentary....???Hale???

Considering the popularity of this video alone, I think the film has brought respectable attention to the history.

Lily Gladstone should get an Oscar for her role.

The book contained a lot more information about the brutal murders that took place. Scorsese has never shied away from violence in his films but wow, some of the book is like wow… heartbreaking. Sometimes I wish maybe Apple had made this into a ten episode limited series instead of the film but still love the film - hope lots of people see this important work, and take it upon themselves to learn more about Indigenous peoples went through.

Now an Indigenous Director needs to follow-up with an Origin movie... By taking the story back further and tell it from the Osage perspective, their voices,their story...this needs to be told..showing their strengths and courage during this time... The Legacy: Then there needs to be another movie that takes the story from the 1930s to present day,incorporating the challenges the families and the Osage faced to move into the future...The Legacy,their strength to survive and thrive...

@Lora-G

7 ай бұрын

Please get this project funded!

@carolperdue7534

6 ай бұрын

Leo DiCaprio and his dad are helping to produce a documentary about what happened to the Osage after the time period of the movie.

This wasn’t the first book…another one was written in the early 1990’s called “Deaths of Sybil Bolton”. That book was written by the subject’s son or grandson as I recall.

The movie can t be a documentary. If it stays true along the big lines and has made you curious enough about the story, it has reached its purpose.

It was a great movie that shared this untold story for many to include me. A movie will never cover all aspects of what happened but we must appreciate the effort here to do so.

According to the book, Killers Of The Flower Moon.

@ChubbyChecker182

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely

Thanks for this video. I knew that something was missing in the film n this video exposed it very well . Real history cannot be ignored because it's the heart of both the book n film !!!

Scorsese worked with the Osage to make this film he didn't just rely on the book.

In my personal opinion the real flaw was focusing so much on the villains and not the Osage. I personally didn’t feel the weight of the tragedy as much as I should. I already knew the story going into the film but the film wasn’t emotional enough to me. Choosing not to Focus on the Osage and how they felt during that time misses a huge opportunity to convey real emotion. The film was missing that element. The fall out of Molly and her husband was also glossed over and short because she was sick and he went to prison and there was not much in between that and the trial. So while I did like the film for what it was it was lacking in that department.

Fantastic film.

Lily Gladstone is stupendous! She absolutely deserves the Oscar!

Scorsese has made documentarys such as "lighting in a bottle"...but this film is no documentary it's based on a time & place with some romance to boot and the brilliance & art of a Scorsese film

@davidcopson5800

6 ай бұрын

His art is in the right place.

The film is a masterpiece! Obviously, all details cannot be covered in a movie. The book inspired the movie, we can be thankful that the movie was produced, rather than bypassed by lesser film makers.

They should've mentioned the Tulsa Massacre (1921) happened around the same time to give some context to the mentality of the _people_ of Oklahoma.

@apriljk6557

6 ай бұрын

it's in the movie

@SKC193

6 ай бұрын

It was mentioned in the movie.

@angelsunemtoledocabllero5801

3 ай бұрын

Is in the movie. They saw footage of the massacre in a movie theater at one moment. And they mentioned in another.

"Ernest Burkhart is the anti-hero of the story" If you believe this even slightly you don't understand this story whatsoever EDIT: Because this seems to be a confusing comment, I'm saying he's the villain. Nothing "heroic" about him, even in an anti-sense

@JM-ex2lj

7 ай бұрын

So what u think that Ernest was actually a good person who was only manipulated by his uncle ? ? Ernest is just as evil as his uncle. He made every single choice n knew what the outcome will be

@tvli

7 ай бұрын

An interpretation is he was in denial and lied to himself. My history teaching is that none of them were redemptive

@MilkyWayGrump

7 ай бұрын

@@JM-ex2lj He's the villain of the story. Nothing heroic about him.

Still happening to this day. On that note: Free Leonard Peltier!

In fact, William J. Burns was the first director of the Bureau of Investigation (later FBI) from 1921 to 1924. He was succeeded by J. Edgar Hoover.

@davidcopson5800

6 ай бұрын

But Hoover just sucked everything up.

Scorsese wanted to tell Mollie and Earnest's complicated story and not a story about the FBI coming to the rescue that has been done

A story that needed to be told

Job well done. The actors did great worl

Movie is definitely worth a watch, but I wish it was told from Mollie’s eyes instead of Ernest’s.

The question I would like answered is why did the Osage women marry white men? Prior to discovery of oil on their land most white men wanted to either kill Natives, or stick them on the Rez, they sure were not marrying them. Once the oil was discovered though all these white guys start showing up and wanting to get with Osage women. Even the tribal elder pretty much points this out about 2/3 through the movie but the question is never answered.

@QoSabKuch

7 ай бұрын

It's called 'grooming' : make a woman feel desirable, profess your undying love, attention and attraction, make her believe the rest of the world is up in arms and you are her only solace..and there you go

@tedwojtasik8781

7 ай бұрын

@@QoSabKuch That makes no sense in the context of the situation, none whatsoever.

@luvdylanstar

7 ай бұрын

I would think they were seduced by these young men and made to feel more spechial and comfortable in the white man's world. The glamor of the 20's and the newness of wealth and luxury with the determined young men flowering them with non stop attention has a way to young women's hearts. Women never want to believe that they are being used when they are swept off their feet and in love. I'm sure it was mutual for some, but not all.

@tedwojtasik8781

7 ай бұрын

@@luvdylanstar I did not look at it that way, probably because I figured as natives that would be less important. I failed to realize Natives are human and not some magical beings immune to such petty desires but you are likely correct. I guess humans gonna human, gonna get mine before ya get yours.

@DarkNJuju

7 ай бұрын

THAT is the question that kept going through my mind. WTF?

Why are most comments blocked

I grew up near Osage Co and sure dont remember this being mentioned in Oklahoma History class. Then again, I didn't pay a lot of attention in class so....

What was the name of the book again?

good film

Movies are storytelling. Not news broadcasts. . Scorsese didn't make a documentary, he's telling a story, the primary goal of a feature filmmaker. This video harps on real life details that are not relevant to the story being told and were they to be included in the film, would simply muddy up the story the filmmakers are telling. This video doesn't seem to understand the difference.

After watching dicaprio play so many different roles you can see a lot of the mannerisms of his older characters in ernest. You see a little bit of ernie grape. Theres other characters too. Too many to name.

I will be the first to see this when it's released on digital. There is no way I can sit in a theatre for over 4 hours (with previews).

It's a movie, not a documentary. It would have been difficult to include historical aspects of the book in a dramatic film without unnecessary exposition since all that info is stuff the characters already know, and have no need to ever voice to another character in the film.

How many Osage are homeless because of this type of behavior

Perhaps we need film bio of Tom White. According to the book, he led a really interesting life. Perhaps a dramatization similar to what is being done for Bass Reeves.

@DarkNJuju

7 ай бұрын

Yea because all we need is yet another mythologizing of a white person.

What is Lily Gladstone’s indigenous status in the Blackfeet tribe? Or in any federally recognized tribe?

Well done presentation in contrasting the book by David Grann and what was true in the movie and what was not. Too bad the movie did not give Tom White and his team more of a story line, and instead inserted some false narratives such as the Masonic scene. Also, too bad that younger actors were not used in the movie. What is admirable is that Martin Scorsese did involve the Osage to be involved in telling their story.

Only difference between real story and the movie is that the actual story is only 30 mins longer.

IT'S NOT A DOCUMENTARY, FOLKS. IT'S BASED ON HISTORICAL NARRATIVE. YOU WANT A DOCUMENTARY, RAISE THE FUNDS AND MAKE ONE.

None of us were there.

Never heard of it

Why do they keep critizing the action of these victims . think about how mean and irrational a persons acts when their sick from being poisoned and drugged with highly addictive drugs and it is in the medicine and water and booze and the meat.

Please read A Pipe for February by Charles Red Corn. This book captures the Pipe scene.

The whole point of the movie is to not bring in the white savior trope and valorize FBI like you literally told in your video. Nobody cared about Osage murders until the white men started getting murdered as well. Portraying Leo as Tom White would've made him the hero and not let us sympathize with the injustice that has happened. You forgot to mention how many Osage murders(close to 30) were never solved. Also, most of the accused never fully served their life sentence and how originally these crimes are punishable by execution while Hale conveniently got released much earlier with his "life sentence".

@DarkNJuju

7 ай бұрын

He was pardoned by a President who grew up in that area.

@orrangee

7 ай бұрын

Even to a degree Anne murder consider unsolved but the story is out there about the atrocity

@Sugaa22

5 ай бұрын

​@DarkNJuju Ernest was pardoned by the Governor years later. Satan Hale was paroled later on. All them terrorists should"ve never seen the day light

Go see this film! It is phenomenal!

It would have made it a mini series

Morrison.. hmmm.

in real live mollie was 6 years older than ernest. di carpio is 12 years older than gladstone. gladstone is mollie's age, di caprio is too old to play ernest. ernest was in his mid 20's when he married mollie , di caprio is almost 50 years old.

@jorgeg162

4 ай бұрын

Who cares?

Where is my Blu-ray?

Ok you dont have to say the tittle 1000 times We got it

@katyrye

7 ай бұрын

You mean the book Killers of the Flower Moon

@mandy7131

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@terrioestreich4007

7 ай бұрын

What a whiny baby

KOTFM was good. But it was definitely not what I was expecting kinda disappointed in that regard. But it was a grounded old west crime story. It’s nice that Hollywood is starting to acknowledge that the 1920s west still had some wild left in it. But they acknowledged it in a way that wasn’t as glamorized or dramatic like how most other western stories are.

@DarkNJuju

7 ай бұрын

ARE YOU SERIOUS? Wild as in the mass murder of non white people in the efforts of white greed? Wow.

Native women are so beautiful....I would have been proudly a "squaw man".....I am proud that many of the founding families of the state of Montana were white men married to native women. Of course there were atrocities here like everywhere against native A s, but they got in some victories here too

this happend right before the tulsa riots i think like a year

@loki2stunt

7 ай бұрын

It was happening before and after Tulsa.... In the Movie Mollie says she doesn't want it to be like another Tulsa

@karlalphelps9909

7 ай бұрын

@@loki2stunt true that documentry was scary as well

@barbiquearea

7 ай бұрын

In the movie they even played the aftermath of the Tulsa Riots in a local theater.

@gew2027

6 ай бұрын

It wasn't a riot it happen the same night, It's the Osage Indian Reservation Massacre

@All_forthelove

4 ай бұрын

Not a riot

I know Scorcese likes to work with DiCaprio abd DeNiro but they were too old to portray the real people. I read the book and I thought White was an interesting person and would like to see a story just about him.

Osage Osage Osage ❤

This is full of inaccuracies as well.

Is this movie good like other Martin Scorcese movies?

@roadrunner381

7 ай бұрын

Just came back to Fairfax from Tulsa from watching it ,YES it's worth spending the 3 hrs 26 min, there was a 10 min intermission, I was worried about the length of the movie myself, but I was completely engulfed by the story, and I believe it's gonna win some awards come Oscar time!🌍🌛🌞

@JM-ex2lj

7 ай бұрын

Nah

@wraynephew6838

2 ай бұрын

It is better than the Irishman

@wraynephew6838

2 ай бұрын

It is better than the Irishman

That’s Mollie not Anna 8:15

I would pay to watch Robert DeNiro order chinese take-out. He's my favorite actor...

Molly looked absolutely nothing like the real Molly. We can start with that.

@davidcopson5800

6 ай бұрын

Marlon and Shawn Wayans looked nothing like white women. Can we start with that?

@wraynephew6838

2 ай бұрын

@@davidcopson5800 Yes but Marlon and Shawn are comedians. Killing of Flower Moon is based off of real life events

❤😮❤ The private investigators were mason's and the agent was a mason, and the perpetrators was mason's 😢❤😢 Hoover was mason. So who did all these cheap dirty deeds ???

Osage Nation not Osage Country.

I rather a movie about Tom White, cracking the case. Not the Villains. But DiCaprio, gonna DiCaprio.

@poavao6832

7 ай бұрын

What you on about?

@Unsweetened8618

7 ай бұрын

DiCaprio wanna be Social Justice. Instead of being the hero. Tom White Story should've been told

@luvdylanstar

7 ай бұрын

A, that's why they hired him and pay him the big bucks, they want him to DiCaprio!!

@Unsweetened8618

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, he did just that. Being the F up character

The background music in this video really needs to chill, I actually can’t finish it it’s too distracting

I fell asleep but I did not know how evil these men were to the natives there

We should also mention they let a 50yr old actor play the roll of a 19 yr old child. Wonder if theres ever been an example of a female actor getting that privilege. I hear most woman actors in their 40s have to start writing or producing their own projects to be allowed to still act as an older woman in Hollywood and get jobs even if its only ones made for themselves. Meanwhile Leo is getting 19yr olds roles. And some people still pretend to not understand the patriarchy because they one time saw a woman get a free drink at a bar.

@jorgeg162

4 ай бұрын

Who cares?

Other than featuring a bunch of people that have no way of understanding the source material?

Flower of the moon killers.

He said he reworked the script to be less about white characters and focus more on the Osage characters… by telling it from a white character’s point of view and casting Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert De Niro, 2 of the most famous white actors in history, in the lead roles and telling it from their perspective, effectively spoiling the twist. Okay 👌

@davidcopson5800

6 ай бұрын

franky, you reworked your avatar picture to look suspiciously like Oppenheimer. Okay.

There is a shorter documentary out there.

I wish that the movie showed more of the Indians perpestive of what they were experiencing . Leonardo did a good job but It was too much about him and it became another who fun it movie I think it was sort of a missed opportunity to see a more intimate and interesting side of native life

These victims was prisoners forced to stay on this reservation? Not one letf alive

"Killers of the Flower Moon" also known as "The Hunt for the Golden Oscar" like most "historical" tales tend to play loose with actual history. Time constraints, propaganda reasons, dramatic license etc etc are all reasons which is why it's best to NOT get your history from hollywood...i've known of this story for many years from several sources, that's why i chose not to see this. I'm sure i would be disappointed...

@jorgeg162

4 ай бұрын

Scorsese told the story and now millions of people in the world are interested in learning about the Osage and their terrible massacre, you have done nothing, not a video on KZread, not a podcast, not a journalistic article or essay, nothing. Thank you Scorsese! At least you did something, not like others who only know how to criticize and don't contribute anything positive

I was excited to see this movie .I had read the book.the movie was not good..the book was much better. I feel they could have done a much better job and feel they did not want to put the effort or money into doing the book justice . sorry it was a flop

The book is better than the movie but they usually are.

No. The Osage brought their land from the Cherokee.

I read the book first, then saw movie. Prefer book

The law never proved that Mollies mom was poisoned.

the music ruined this otherwise good video for me ...

The Director” I want to focus on the Native Americans” goes on to make the two white men the stars.

@thereviewartistrrp5493

7 ай бұрын

It's a three hour movie. Starring in a movie is hard. You have to carry the film. How many big Indian actors are there? It's much easier to find a big white actor. A director can make supporting actors look good as long as it's in small doses. I was meant for theatres. How many big Indian actors are there? Not many.

@Unsweetened8618

7 ай бұрын

DiCaprio and DeNiro are Movie Star's. Not Lily Gladstone. This movie got buzz, cause of them two and Marty.

@tommymc7535

7 ай бұрын

@@Unsweetened8618But gave her the opportunity to shine which she absolutely did. She was great in that film!

@Unsweetened8618

7 ай бұрын

The story should've been about Thomas White investigation. But somebody got cold feet.

@ChubbyChecker182

7 ай бұрын

De Niro and De Caprio should have played the Osage Chiefs (joking)

1:02 unfortunately the movie is still a lot about the "white characters".

"A kind of breaucratic oppression", "prejudice" "horrific unfairness " Really Grunge? We cant say racism, imperialism, colonialism?

It's not the Osage "concept of heaven". It's the Osage concept of an afterlife. "Heaven" is not a standard, nor an original. They did not base their idea of an afterlife on christianity.

Accurate according to who?

@baneofbanes

16 күн бұрын

According to the written records of the event.

@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat

16 күн бұрын

@@baneofbanes I can write words to the contrary. The truth rarely survives agenda.

@baneofbanes

16 күн бұрын

@@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat and yet you weren’t there.

If it differs why watch it?

Not at all

If u saw Fairfax now its a fucking shit hole 😂 I grow up in kaw city

@Jabberstax

4 ай бұрын

I'm not surprised. 😂