Thanks to Leo and team for having me! Amazing place 🇫🇮, amazing team and the bikes are truly stunning!

@janikumlander1822

Жыл бұрын

🎉🇫🇮🇫🇮

@esa4141

Жыл бұрын

So you were in Finland, land of million lakes. Hope you liked visit.

Thanks for investing your time to visit the pole facility and interviewed this genius guy behind this awesome bike. I wish all the best to Pole company.

This was AMAZING. Thank you for sharing. I ride with a gentleman that has a Pole, and it's an incredible bike.

Love this Rob, not just because it's Pole, that's just a bonus, but great video and insight into the manufacturing and business side of Pole. Fantastic! ❤

Rob, you did a great job of having Leo explain his process. This method of production is GENIUS. I am a manufacturing professional so I can appreciate every point that was made, and I also believe that the way the two of you presented everything creates a very understandable explanation that any bike enthusiast can appreciate as well. Great content!

@julikb

Жыл бұрын

the method is older than me....

@yuramtb5502

Жыл бұрын

agree with you for 100%

Great job on this video. Doesn't come across as a paid promotion at all. Fascinating content.

Pole are an amazing brand led by an amazing lad (looking at you Leo :) ). Would love to visit their neck of the woods someday. Thanks for bringing this out Rob.

I absolutely love my Voima . Such a ripper

Amazing! Thank you, Rob and Leo!

Such a great video, I enjoyed every second of it! Pole is just an incredible company

Superb job Rob. I have been sold on this bike manufacturing method since I first became aware of it. I will have one in my life one day. As an engineer myself, I am thrilled you dug deeper into this and what fantastic access you had. 10/10.

I am fortunate enough to own a Voima and speak highly enough about how it is finished, looks and rides, your video is an eye opener as to why the bike is so unique, my only hope now is that Leo and the Pole team go to Pinion for there drive system soon. The Bosch version is brilliant but the MGU will take this emtb to the next level level, great video Rob

I actually got chills from this video. Awesome video and awesome timing 😮😀Rob, you are the man and Leo is so cool to have you. It’s great to see this behind the scenes look at all of their innovation, thought process and manufacturing. Every time I hear more about Pole I am even more impressed! I like a proud father; hopefully I will be receiving my Voima soon.

I love this video because I’m a big fan of Finland and engineering and manufacturing being ex Nokia. They are also lovely people and passionate about innovation and sustainability. Superb video sir 👌

Engineering at its finest, we need more people like this in the world

@gopackgo4036

2 ай бұрын

Not particularly. Sure it takes skill to make this stuff, but overall these processes are inefficient, wasteful, and poorly designed.

@simonxii3566

2 ай бұрын

@@gopackgo4036 get your tools out and make something better then

That you for the interesting video, I brought a Voima with all the high end parts and am extremely happy with my purchase.

This is the most amazing tour. I dig the end to end personality of how they make these machines

I have owned a Pole Machine, Stamina 180 and now the analog version of the Voima: Vikkelä! Had lots of other bikes in-between too, but always end up back on the Pole bikes. Probably gotta sell the all-mtn10 and get a Voima. They really are THAT good! Pole Pole Pole!!!

Beautiful looking frame

Thanks Rob , a really great insight into this company. It certainly makes you appreciate the passion and effort that goes into bikes like these.

Unreal video, thanks Rob and thanks Leo! So cool to watch!

Amazing video. Such an indepth look. It's incredible that they do inside first. But makes sense when you think about it. Brilliant thanks

I don’t own a bike but if I’d get one would be this! Truly a masterpiece of manufacturing…Thanks Rob and Leo. 👌

The process is truly amazing, thanks brothers❤

Pole seems perfectly aligned to move to the Pinion Motor/Gearbox due to their agility in manufacturing. Voima Pinion - sign me up!

@RobRidesEMTB

Жыл бұрын

And me 🙋‍♂️

That welded frame looks amazing.

Thanks, excellent video and beautiful product, I want one. Leo knows his stuff, wish him every success.

love it !!! Love my Vikkela! Thanks for doing this!

How did you know I was shopping on the Pole sight yesterday lol. This video couldn't have come at a better time. Definitely ordering a Voima and selling my Levo this off season. Thank you for the insight

Really good video. Thanks for the insight.

Leo is a pioneer.. I really hope he grows in other sections of EV industry... I really wish I had am 1 hour conversation with him .. Keep it up

This is such a great story and a delight to watch 👍

Nice, that people are willing to pay for such a good stuff. That manufacturing is next level.

Great video Rob.

I don't comment much but that was a great video. Amazing tech and insights. Keep it up Rob

thanks for this!

In one word: Amazing. 👏

Very interesting and informative video. I agree a very fresh and innovative approach to everything from design, production and everything else I guess.

Amazing video! 👍

Very interesting. Thank you for this.

I’m not a fan of how that bike looks but thanks for uploading this video, was amazing to watch and I’m sure the bike is a shredder 👍

Cool to see these fully machined bike frames. I noticed the design seems quite conventional; I imagine that with the full design freedom of machined parts you could move towards a lot more distinctive style. Even if the round tube is pretty hard to beat from a technical point of view, it could really help set the brand apart to go a little crazier.

Damn this is so cool. I’m gonna need one of these.

Oooooooh how i wish i could afford a Voima. True dream bike!

ABSOLUTELY LOVE MY VOIMA 😊

No idea what people think. This bike is a piece of ART 🤟🚲🍻

Amazing!!!

11:52 - "I LOVE GOOOLLLDDD...!!!" (best Mike Myers/Gold Member voice)

nice look

Very koool video, keep these coming 🇺🇸 got me a Gold Voima ID Bosch Race

All the big brands need to take this same approach and not hide how they produce thete products

Very cool!

Great entreprenur!

it's great that pole are able to create their frames in house compared to other were they have them made in other countries, that must help with costs and as he stated time to

Very clever guy!!

Loved it

POLE is so NICE!

Amazing product, very, very tempting! Apart from the bike cost, there is a further 26% of duties/VAT to pay...........

Please make frame for electric Pinion. I would buy it straight away. Amazing frames, this is perfection

Dude is nukin futs passionate ❤❤❤

Very good Video Rob👍. good Work from Leo. Megabike with perfect finish. But Guys High Precision is when the parts have a tolerance from 0.005 or less in that segment. 😅 0.1 is for normal CNC Parts, nothing Special in the CNC Industry.

Love the look, and made in my Birth Country, waiting for a'150 Travel Trail Bike from Pole 😉 that looks the same but Lighter 🤠

Nice, thank you! (Secretly hoping for an e-Taiga :-) )

Awesome COOL 😮🤠🤟

A technique for keeping the parts from vibrating as they’re being cut on the 2nd side seems like the magic ingredient in this type of frame manufacturing. Clearly Leo has it dialed, but we don’t get to see (understandably!)

What engine use on Pole Voima? Bosch CX Race 🤔

Love Leos Bikes! Maybe one day ....

Presumably they leave a reasonable flange (on the inside where you can't see it) so there is some area for the bonding between the two halves? If it was bonded then machined down to ~1mm wall thickness that would leave very little bond remaining. I am impressed that they can get this process to work without visible seams on the outside and with consistent wall thickness. As he emphasises this is _hard_ to get reliable. I wonder if there have been any instances of bond failure in the middle of a frame tub: (MTBs get a very hard time and epoxy is good but surely not as good as the solid metal of an extruded, welded or hydroformed tube?

how do they bond two sides together?

Nice😮

rohloff would be a great addition... with 1000wh battery & double crown fork, instant buy

Those are 5 axis machines...serious money and absolutley unattainable not that long ago. Well, not financially feasible back then at least. Nice stuff.

How do they 'bond' two pieces of aluminium together? 🤔

Surely pole integrates pinion or effigear, gearbox drivetrains that would make them so much further above any bike company and wouldn’t be too hard to modify the vikkela for a acoustic gearbox and the voima for pinion’s new e-gearbox. It’s just if the market is there which I am sure there is

@devinarmstrong903

Жыл бұрын

I am from New Zealand and I would rather buy a pole with a gearbox than a Zerode Katipō or Taniwha which are made in Wellington, I would rather have the pole because zeroed only produces carbon frames which I don’t think serve a purpose in Enduro because it’s only marginally lighter than alloy and it so much easier to break, and with Pole having such high tolerance machining and they are all about precision I find it surprising they still use traditional derailleur, chain and cassette drive trains when gearbox drivetrains with a belt are so much stronger, more precise and almost never require a service because they run in an oil bath. He shifting and performance is just so much better and the wear is almost no existent. If Pole made high performance Xcode bikes where efficiency is paramount then it would make sense to stick with traditional drivetrains, but for a enduro racing machine gearbox drivetrains just seem so much more fit for purpose.

@devinarmstrong903

Жыл бұрын

And I’m no expert but on a bike with a traditional chainstay, If you want a belt drive you need a removable/breakable chain stay to put a new belt on but I think it might be possible to install a belt without modifying the seat stay on the voima/vikkela if you remove the wheel and any guides first. Not for certain but it looks as though you could.

@devinarmstrong903

Жыл бұрын

Suspension performance is greatly improved in gearbox driven bikes too as it removes a clump of unnecessary weight from the rear wheel

Good aluminum desin can be much better than carbon. Many designers create stupid shapes with huge tensions. It is possible to design light frame which will have 70MPa under 4G landing. But most of design has about 150 or even 200MPa in case like that. Frames are quenched and agged after welding (T6 treatment) but it isn't enough to prevent fatigue if design is bad. 7075 is old but very good alloy and after T6 tretment is more durable than most normal steel alloys. But aluminum is almost 3x lighter so can be much thicker which gives smaller tensions in frame. Welds even after T6 treatment are not perfect and design without it is very good idea. When I was younger I thoud to creat frame made by two forged pieces but I,ve never finish it. I stopt on repairing frames for people or designing and machining better links in case of repair. But thanks for bicycle engeniering I was designer in automotive and now I am mechanical designer in eletronic industry. Great to see someone who create so smart companie with smart design.

@organiced9805

9 ай бұрын

Good info, thanks! 👍

Please cycle price

I can buy it dear

Ice Cold Cool ✨

So cool! I wish they made real Mountainbikes instead of e-bikes.

Myself being the last living caveman, find myself suspended in admiration for those who have unlocked the secrets of the Planet.

Nurse, gimme a Pole Voima with the new Pinion MGU 9 speed! STAT!!

At 11:47 What chemical are so strong that it can instantly melt through muscle tissues and bones?

I love a polished aluminum bike 😍 i Have an Ebike i built tho highly different from yours.. with a 750w Bafang mid drive 52v batt.. and though it does weigh in at 57lb my top speed was 41.9mph on a flat street.. unfortunately it's WAAY to heavy for off road 😒 🤷

Where MTB'ing meets art.

Would it fussy if I said 0.1mm is a lot

Interesting solution, but 0.1mm is not high precision CNC machine. Additive manufacturing is a better solution IMHO.

wish have one☺️🤗😍🥰❤️🙏

I have the Yeti 303 rdh vibe.......

🚲

Of course you don't see those tolerances in frame manufacturing, because its is completely unnecessary. Its serves no purpose other than to add expense. Its bad ass, though.

havent seen a fully cnc frame beein created, misleading :(

For me the 2 problems with poles bikes were 1. the size. the frame is just too big for smaller riders to ride confidently. 2. The price. The bikes were way too expensive for larger audience

Cast it.

Leo is like the elon musk of bike industry

You should ask orbea if you can see their non existent QC

Must be a 15k bike

@bobsnabby2298

Жыл бұрын

Top model 7k

13:54 pressing in the bearings with no grease🙈

@Jeffbomke

Жыл бұрын

That is what I thought, but no creaks at all. When I upgraded to the race axles, I greased the bearings, but it wasn't in the instructions.

@bobsnabby2298

Жыл бұрын

Lol you want them slip off?

@thescerigai

Жыл бұрын

@@bobsnabby2298 lol you want bike trash?

@bobsnabby2298

Жыл бұрын

@@thescerigai yeah go and help them with your wisdom 🤣

@thescerigai

Жыл бұрын

@@bobsnabby2298 literally the most unintelligible mf on here

This is what hope technology have been doing for 20+ years

I like the attention on detail through the manufacturing process! I am really interested in the Voima, if only it were mullet...

@Dave-qy8sl

Жыл бұрын

I have mulleted mine. It’s phenomenal

@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120

Жыл бұрын

@@Dave-qy8sl Do you experience more frequent pedal strikes due to the lower bottom bracket? I suppose the bike is more nimble now in the tight switchbacks

@Dave-qy8sl

Жыл бұрын

@@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 I’ve had very few pedal strikes with this setup. It is confidence inspiring on the climbs that tends to enable attempts of more challenging root sections that demand more precision timing on the pedals. It definitely doesn’t hold me back

@Dave-qy8sl

Жыл бұрын

It did make the bike more nimble overall I found

@ronaldsilver8499

Жыл бұрын

I mulleted mine as well. I used a -1 degree headset from cane creek. I ended up going back to full 29er as it seemed to handle a little better. Also for whatever reason I don’t have any issues buzzing my butt with the 29er setup like I have on other 29 bikes. This is the main reason I tried 29er but turned out it wasn’t necessary.

Rich people make fancy things possible. And make things advance. No one can afford this unless they make 5k $ a month. But someday the process will probably get cheaper and maybe affordable to us peasants. We could probably do it ourselves, just as good or better, but we just aren't rich. Cool vid, cool idea to make it, but the price... probably better to mold, then do cnc finish. But i guess those rich people just have to brag about paying so much for something that techincally isn't actually worth it. Just like clothing brands, LV pants, 1000$ trash quality. Levis 100$ 10/10 quality. But they just have to show that they can afford it. xD Funny world we live in, while being amazed by the advancements, you can still see how "stupid" it actually is. In theory.