I find it interesting that the goddess disguised as a nurse burning a royal infant’s mortality occurs both with Egyptian Isis and Greek Demeter. While the surrounding stories are different, that specific element repeats

@eoincampbell1584

2 жыл бұрын

Considering that the goddesses were later associated with each other by the Romans I wonder if that aspect is what led to the association or if that aspect was borrowed from the original Isis myth and added to the Demeter one then as *part of* the association.

@PalimpsestProd

2 жыл бұрын

Fire = healing, so it would be a common motif in most human cultures.

@eoincampbell1584

2 жыл бұрын

@@PalimpsestProd They didn't go into too much detail here in this video, but in this case it's a bit more than fire being a symbol for healing, they are quite directly the same story: The goddess while wandering the world poses as a mortal servant in a palace, and takes a liking to the infant son of the King. For three nights she bathes the infant in divine flame, burning away a bit of its mortality at a time. On the third night however the mother catches the goddess in the act in "saves" the baby. The goddess then becomes enraged and explains that if she was simply allowed to continue then the infant would have become a god. Replace "goddess" with either Isis or Demeter, it's the same. The only differences are the reasons they are traveling (Demeter is wandering depressed after her daughter was kidnapped, Isis is searching for Osiris' body) and their actions afterward (Demeter demands a temple to her be built in penance, Isis takes Osiris' body and leaves).

@arachne6074

2 жыл бұрын

It makes sense that the peoples of the meditation sea would trade religious ideas as they traded goods.

@eoincampbell1584

2 жыл бұрын

@@arachne6074 I'd love to visit the meditation sea, sounds so relaxing.

Loved this. Working at the Penn Museum's Summer Camp each summer, we often tell the Isis/Seth/Osiris story. Getting to hear it with the additional context is wonderful. To your point about the Roman cult of Isis, the Penn Museum actually has Isis devotional objects in the Rome Gallery derived from this cult. These objects really tell us a great deal about the interaction of cultures. I love the idea of Isis temples in Britain, which I am pretty sure they have found in London.. The world was so much smaller back then and yet ideas still traveled remarkably far.

@aurionc2468

Жыл бұрын

Or those ‘ideas’ were wantonly pilfered, stolen, and reappropriated.

So Osiris was Exodia all along. Good to know.

@nostalgialovesmypaycheque9382

2 жыл бұрын

Lolololol

@eulermoura9643

2 жыл бұрын

OH MY GOD YES!!!

@Townsteppa

2 жыл бұрын

Yes because you had to collect all body cards to summon😂😂

@High-LordHarza

2 жыл бұрын

...that might actually be the basis for Exodia.

@exodiathomas908

2 жыл бұрын

It is true, I am Osiris

This was the story that cemented my interest in myth and Egyptology as a kid. It was also very funny to read different versions of the Osiris story growing up because they were either honest about what happened to his penis or they'd censor themselves to be "safe for children." Which is hilarious bc mythology can involve cosmos-sized sex melodramas rivaling Real Housewives.

@leahr.2732

2 жыл бұрын

pretty much lmaoo

@lgstar3363

2 жыл бұрын

It’s ridiculous to sensor anything. It sensors freedom of speech (speech should not be taken literal as there are different forms of communications in present time and the politicians and or companies who do know they are manipulating the system).

@divinekitty1831

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, mythological relationship drama is better than 100% of modern relationship drama. Some supermodel cheating on her husband? Boring, predictable. Loki Sleeping with a horse? Now you have my attention.

@eluemina2366

11 ай бұрын

​@@divinekitty1831😅

I remember how much I loved Egyptiona myhtology as a child. I remember many versions of this tale. If Osiris' death story is a big drama, the battle between Seth and Horus in some versions can get quite... let's say mature content too haha.

@CrisSelene

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the lettuce story.

@abydosianchulac2

2 жыл бұрын

"Hey, Thoth, how were you born?" "Um..."

@abydosianchulac2

2 жыл бұрын

"Hey, Thoth had two dads; he must have been adopted!" "Well, actually..."

@abhishekghosh4384

2 жыл бұрын

You could have been there in previous life.

I loved ancient mythology *so much* as a kid. I could basically recite whole swaths of information about Egyptian or Greek history, folklore, deities, etc. Looking back, it's honestly baffling that no one figured out I was neurodivergent, lolol

@spottedbeing5561

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in this comment and I actually don't mind it

@athena8794

2 жыл бұрын

Saaaame. Whenever my guy is playing or watching anything based on mythology, he calls me in for a consult fairly frequently.

@barbiquearea

2 жыл бұрын

As a kid I grew up on cartoons like Disney's Hercules shows that showed a lot of stuff from Greek mythology, as well as Tutenstein, a cartoon about Tutankhamen's mummy coming back to life and dealing with a lot of hijinx revolving around the Egyptian gods. Then there was the Horrible History cartoons which sometimes touched upon ancient history and mythology. Very educational stuff.

@SupaLydz24

2 жыл бұрын

Neurodivergent here, and I'm cracking up because I literally was just saying to myself how intrigued I am by this new found knowledge and telling myself "welp, guess this is gonna be my next obsession for a min" 😫😫🤣🤣🤣😭

@masilrizwan4322

2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome you could do all that, very inspirational!

Could you also do one on Seth alone? And maybe Anubis? There are so many sources and stories about Seth, that you easily lose track. One of them is that his Function changed over Egypts history from a hero to a villain. And that he also was the god/patreon of foreigners. Would like to know if that even is a thing.

@TheArmchairPriest

2 ай бұрын

The thing is he was always the hero to the egyptians. In sumer hes called enlil. But for some reason only reallyyy for the past couple decades people have been demonizing him and siding with the god of death. Weird, in my opinion lol. He was venerated in both egypt and sumer- even being retitled there as nunanmir (fierce high prince). Osiris / Enki is the god of death and the underworld, and he likes it. I don’t side with that guy

So interesting how religions of the past continue to influence our world today

Consistently have such great and unique videos, as somebody who often goes down wiki rabbit holes it’s great to have this format and better research toward. Keep it up, great host too

So cool to see you doing a mythological tales series as well Dr. Z!!

@pbsstoried

2 жыл бұрын

Having a great time and feeling lucky I have the chance!-*Dr.Z*

This is so well told, thank you! I get so disappointed when someone tells a culture myth with little to no context just to play up the shock value of the imagery, "They sure believed some craaazy stuff back then!" Every element has a point or a context, and without it a story's significance will be lost. With the context you included we can understand the significance of the symbolism, the decisions made, the reflection it had to politics at the time, their virtues and gender roles, and their view of the spiritual and the afterlife, which is incredibly similar to a lot of the western world.

mythology is so interesting and it’s even more interesting when you have people who genuinely like it, like dr Z

I was named after this great Goddess. I never bored myself with her amazing stories and Dr. Zarka did a wonderful job with this. Thanks!

@tedcleveland8488

Жыл бұрын

Her real name was aset tho

@user-xe9dk7jt6l

10 ай бұрын

Ase Family 🎼🤦🏿‍♂️💙

Yes, more Egyptian mythology please.

I love the series since it reminds me of TED-eds series about myths, but just noticed this has the same writer!! Great work from Iseult Gillespie to be able to condence these stories to their core issues ✨

I was obsessed with ancient Egypt as a kid and I’m still in love with it, and the Osiris legend is my favorite story from Egyptian mythology.

Thousands of years in the making and then retold across thousands of years, and still a better love story than Twilight.

I'm also read Egyptian myths from National Geographic books, and I'm really love it too ☺ ! Love between Usir or Osiris and Aset or Isis are never to be broken 🥰

my earliest memory of ancient Egyptian mythology was that I always remember lending an audiobook of Roger Lancelyn Green's Tales of Ancient Egypt from my schools reading room. The tape it had a very vivid pastel blue colour and was narrated by Alex Jennings I also remember making Egyptian tombs from cardboard

There's an amazing church in Rome: the Santa Maria Sopra Minerva ("the Saint Mary over Minerva). It's a Catholic church dedicated to St Mary, the Madonna that was erected over a temple to Minerva. But before it was a temple to Minerva, it was a temple to Isis. You can go down into the ruins & see the layers of Roman history beneath the church to this day. It's interesting to me the continuity not only of preserving a holy space (which is fairly common as religious practices change), but also how a maternal, feminine nature was also conserved from Isis to Minerva to the Madonna.

Excellent! It is June 2022, this is the best show I have seen on this rich subject!

Very interesting. I love learning about different mythologies from around the world. This is definitely one of my top 3 favorite channels.

I would love to see someone do an in-depth & up to date analysis of how the Nubians of the Kingdoms of Kush contextualized Isis.

@emmanuelboakye1124

2 жыл бұрын

👍👍

Whoever writes these is KILLING IT. Music selection too.

Great video, Dr. Z! Thanks!

So good! I look forward with great anticipation for each new Monstrum and Fate & Fabled episode

Love this. Egiptian mythology was my first love and I still have a huge crush for it.

What a wonderful narration of this most complex ancient story. I thoroughly enjoyed it 😀

Wonderful episode, I really appreciate that you shine a light on ancient cultures! I hope to see more in that vein. The art was also really stunning. One little thing though: the pyramid texts are not the world's earliest religious texts. Cuneiform! ;)

Awesome once again. Best channel on KZread by far.

That was lovely......thank you.

When a soul didn't pass the test the heart was devoured by the monstrous Ammit. The soul was then believed to be restless forever.

The artwork is beautiful!

Your videos are so informative

hearing about isis in ancient egypt: 😊 hearing about isis today: 😬

Loved loved loved, more egyptation lore por favor!

Damn that burning the baby deal is so specific but It happened in greek mythology as well with Demeter burning a baby prince, while burning his mortality. Is it a case of diverging beliefs with same stories or did one influence the other?

Thank you so much!

Thousands of years and we're still talking about them but look how much mothers care about their sons it's amazing ❤️❤️❤️❤️

@yourloveriswild7533

Жыл бұрын

Yes! 🙌🏻

Another awesome video from Doctor Z!

Thank you my dear. I got it! Heard so many tales before. You made it easy & interesting. Thanks🙂

such a good video. really well done

beautiful story

Ancient Egypt and ancient Greece have the most interesting mythology stories. Great video, greetings from Hellas! 🤚🏛

No myth of creation is complete without incest.

@Faustian_Bargain_Bin

2 жыл бұрын

🤣In their defense they didn't have many options

@hughmann9568

2 жыл бұрын

@@Faustian_Bargain_Bin Right. Well there are 10 people and I'm related to 5 of them. 😂

Thank you for that. Clear succinct and totally absorbing. :D

I love this channel so much, it’s calming and educational which are the two things I can never get enough of☺️Ancient mythos are just fascinating

I really love this series

Very nicely done, good job!

Your framing of seth as that he “stood for chaos” and “the restraint nephthys by his side” nephthys was everything but restrained she shape shifted into isis and convinced osiris into sleeping with her. Poor osiris didn’t know that this wasn’t his wife and seth rightfully raged by that affair planned to take revenge not that he couldn’t contain his desire to destroy his brother over nothing??? Nephthys then dumped seth and sided with her sister and her brother osiris. If you want to convince me that seth is the villain here then I genuinely don’t know what to say more

@TheHornedKing

2 жыл бұрын

Set was demonized over time by the Egyptians. One reason for this is that one of the things he was the god of, was foreigners, and after Egypt's relationship with foreign nations got bad, they started to look at Set in a worse light.

@heathermauldin4951

2 жыл бұрын

And!! Set joined Ra on the solar barque to fight against Apophosis who WAS actually chaos. However, guys Nepthys genuinely felt bad for what she did. That’s why she decided to help Isis. Also Nepthys’ tryst with Osiris gave us the dark and wonderful Anubis.

@kreolado5880

Ай бұрын

Plutarch made the affair story up. In Egyptian versions of the Osiris Myth, Nephthys is usally just the second wife or sister of Osiris

@sias_circle

10 күн бұрын

Set and Neph weren’t true love, it was more arranged. Everyone wanted isis lol

@sias_circle

10 күн бұрын

@@heathermauldin4951apep the snake was created by Isis to attack and draw Amun-Ra out of Egypt. He was the jealous god along with Set. Stop listening the recent propagated stories. Older is better

Omg this is amazing! I just learned about her tonight!

Yes! Your shirt is giving me everything! Also, good video. 👏

Excellent video.

OMG This helped me so much for my homework ty sooooooo much

Thank you

Loved how you said the intro. "Sibling rivalry..." My mind:- Thats not everything "Party tricks" My mind:- Thats not everything "And a missing penis" My mind:- OK thats everything

loved it

I love this! ❤️

this is my favorite egyptian story!

Could you do an episode about the reoccurring themes and stories in all or most afroeurasian mythologies and the possible proto mythology that came before them?

This was amazing. So well done. I’d love to see a collaboration between Emily and Kara Cooney on another Egyptian story. Can you imagine those two brilliant storytellers teaming up?

the way Set is styled here reminds me of Cyril Sneer from the Canadian cartoon the Racoons

Beautiful

I adore egyptian myth, and this myth especially.

Interesting, apparently some Egyptians claimed that the Hebrew god was another version of Seth. Since Lower Egypt was presumably early on more semitic the idea that Horus defeated Seth to conquer lower Egypt might play into this notion.

Love this campaign from Age of Mythology rebuilding Osiris once again

These stories are so interesting and informative. Unrelated but, that dress is wonderful. Where can I buy one?

This episode premiered on the 5 year anniversary of my Dad's death, it brought me a little comfort knowing that he's not hurting anymore.

Great authentic 👌 👏

Thanks.

I got to find that movie it was sweet The best movie

Thank you for your videos and especially these African Mythologie ❤️

I always found Set to be so interesting

Imhotep!!!

Omg beautiful story 🥹🥹❤️❤️

This is why studying religions and myth is so important. We understand how people understood life and that explains their ways and decisions in a psychological level.

Now that's truest of true love literally bringing back her love from the dead a true love story

I was just in Philae temple, which tell the story of Isis and Osiris. it's gorgeous to say the least.

We need a chapter just for Horus = please! :)

Pls do a video on the yakshi

Great retelling. It's a bit odd though to see you illustrate the chest Seth traped Osiris in as a square box. Considering Seth had made it to fit only Osiris, surely it looked like the man-shaped coffins! Which would also connect it with the Egyptian mortuary tradition with which he was so strongly associated. I honestly guffawed a bit at the sight of the square box that apparently no other god could fit into :D

As a kemetic I love this video

I already wanted to watch this because it's Egyptian mythology - but WOW did you have my attention at "missing penis!" That was a new twist for my own knowledge of this story!!

shoutout to one of the best mythology game smite!

This is cool they should do a video on Merlin

Immediately the movie Boss Level comes to mind.

Will you ever do a show on the myths of Christianity? And maybe where those myths originated.

The Zark rules!

Great new content!

I’ve gotta say your dress is 🔥. I wish I could figure out where it’s from.

Wow. I never even heard of Shu, the god of dry air, before. Didn't know there was such a god until this moment.

Hmm Never heard of this channel before But I enjoy Egyptian stories, as much as the next. The minute I click on the video, I see Kirsten Dunst will be narrating this video.. Okay, I'll stay for a bit lol.

Okay, so I like this format, but I think I’m not the only viewer who also watched Overly Sarcastic Productions and is already familiar with Red‘s retelling of these topics

Great video! Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to blast the William S Burroughs & Material album "Seven Souls" at maximum volume. "The ancient Egyptians postulated seven souls Top soul, and the first to leave at the moment of death, is Ren, the secret name This corresponds to my director He directs the film of your life from conception to death The secret name is the title of your film When you die, that's where Ren came in"

TED-Ed has some competition from the 'Fate and Fabled' series when it comes to telling stories from our mythologies.

I was surprised there wasn't a bunch of incest jokes in the comments tbh, either way! Great video :) I love mythos, though Anubis, Set, and Bastet are my go to Egyptian figures, I really enjoyed your vid!!

Ah yes the good ole "I bet you can't fit in the box!" trick.... I'm glad to see it was used back in the day as well as in 1999 when I did it to my brother...I never got around to throwing it in the Nile though, I had to be home before the street lights came on, and I don't think my bike would've made it back in time 🤣

anyone else notice the similarities between what Isis did in Byblos to the story of Demeter and the Eleusinian Mysteries?

Very interesting, a lot of parrallels between this and the legend of Moses in the Bible... I wonder how much the origin of the Moses legend was inspired by the story of Isis, Osiris and Set.

I never thought of this before, but wash't Tut the child of Akhanatan (sp?) the monotheist? What's with the other gods in his tomb?

@wildmen5025

4 ай бұрын

Tutankhamun repealed His father's actions and restored the popular worship of the Gods