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@stan_tripleS
7 ай бұрын
Try learning the Korean alphabet. I learned it within 1 month and it is extremely simple, plus it sounds how it looks
Do they provide you with the korean lyrics or is it completely by ear?
@lizzie5046
Жыл бұрын
They provide it by Alina tends to do it by ear since it's easier for her
@LYREMusicGroup
Жыл бұрын
What Lizzie said!
@michaelkennethn9720
Жыл бұрын
@@lizzie5046 i thought the company gave them the romanized lyrics like "nareul gamsihaneun..." just like us reading the romanized lyrics
@lizzie5046
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelkennethn9720 I believe they do provide that. Likely they provide both Korean and romanised but just listening sometimes is easier for some people since romanised is hard to read for some
@youtubelover5270
Жыл бұрын
@@lizzie5046 yess cause romanized isn't universal, it's accurate for most tho, so learning by ear def sounds like the easier thing to do
As someone who loves to cover Korean songs and does not speak any Korean; this is soo relatable
@TiaTam
Жыл бұрын
Same! Though I typically only slow it down for rap parts (Hanse's parts in Victon songs are a PAIN) Usually I do well reading the lyrics and if I'm especially adventurous (/j) I even try to do it with hangul
@adrik.d
Жыл бұрын
I'm starting to learn Korean (only a few words rn smh), but even before I did, I would just listen to a song while reading the lyrics a few times and then I'd just remember it. That's how I memorised pretty much all of the BLACKPINK lyrics
@rinaaaah
Жыл бұрын
Even tho I’m learning, I’m too lazy to slow it, I just look at lyrics and listen, and it’s actually good
@QueenK-popUnnie
Жыл бұрын
Same except I naturally pick up on the lyrics because I play it so much and i just stare at the lyrics while the song plays and I quickly try to read and sing it. Takes about 5 or more times, but eventually I learn it💀😭
@JasmineDragonXYL
Жыл бұрын
It's pretty easy to learn Hangeul so that you know the correct pronunciation and can read the words directly.
something that could help u is leading the korean alphabet because it can help u get the sounds and it’s very easy and u don’t have to learn the entire langige
@user-mn8jp2up4t
Жыл бұрын
It might help a little, but there is still a big difference in being able to read, *speak and sing* in hangul and just memorising the basic sound each character makes *edited bc of my terrible initial wording
@lilypad2
Жыл бұрын
@@user-mn8jp2up4t it really isn't that big of a difference. I learned the alphabet, and can comfortably read Korean now. There is a difference, because of grammar, but it really isn't "big"
@ishathakor
Жыл бұрын
@@user-mn8jp2up4t not that big of a difference. korean is phonetic and there are a handful of sound change rules you need to know but you can basically memorize them. it usually takes people about a week to learn hangul (i'm in some korean learning communities online so i'm going off of what i usually see with beginners). but i've also seen people do it in a few days and every once in a while you get someone who does it in a few hours. reading hangul is pretty easy.
@Gummeyy
Жыл бұрын
@@user-mn8jp2up4t learning the alphabet helps a lot, by learning the alphabet you also learn how to pronounce those letters like 'geu' and 'gu/goo' (I don't have the Korean keyboard to show an example)
@nakynaki
Жыл бұрын
@@Gummeyy 그/구
For Giddy I definitely feel like I hear your voice in the beginning of the pre-chorus the “Tu-du-du-du, tu-du-du-du” part
@blackpiice
11 ай бұрын
No comments I Fixed it
I kinda sing Korean songs like that too, except I don't slow them down😭😭
@jimams_jamz5518
Жыл бұрын
same, I just hear it so much that I just end up memorizing it 😭
@faridagaafar
Жыл бұрын
@@jimams_jamz5518 same
@Multi_Stan143
Жыл бұрын
Same
@puteriilyamaisarabintinazr290
Жыл бұрын
@@jimams_jamz5518 same
@miorae08
Жыл бұрын
OMG sameee
Lifehack: this is how you learn languages easier. Lyrics are often very close to the level of language that is actually spoken, and you can remember the words better if there is a melody behind it. As a kid, we had one song completely in Japanese. No idea why, Japan wasn’t nearly as popular as it is now, we just snag this song at my primary school and it has really helped me 12 years later while learning Japanese. I still know the entire song by heart. It can also help with pronunciation. The „th“ can be a hard thing to pronounce in English, so singing „happy birthday“ or“ i want it that way“ can really help
@savannah7375
Жыл бұрын
I learned mary had a little lamb and head should knees and toes in japanese in the early 2000s haha I loved learning songs in other languages 🙌💕
@uptoCHINAtown
Жыл бұрын
Music is the best way to learn a language hands down. I started listening to Japanese pop when I was younger, and now 10 years later im fluent in Japanese, living in Tokyo, and working as a translator. With not one day of formal language training. I also can clearly recollect what song I learned which word from, etc. even all these years later. Of course I still listen everyday and learn more and more. Music is key for almost everything if you ask me lo
I think that learning to read korean with the right pronunciation would be very beneficial for you, you don’t have to learn the words, just purely read out the sound
@lexielopez859
Жыл бұрын
She could literally just read the romanized version of the lyrics and it would save so much time
@nati4218
Жыл бұрын
@@lexielopez859 Not really, if you read the romanized version it would be a disaster, English and Korean pronunciation are completely different, that’s one of the reasons it uses a completely different alphabet, good news is that Korean is actually the easiest alphabet to learn at the moment
@satanissima
Жыл бұрын
You'd think someone who's been working with kpop for this long would bother to at least learn hangul
@nati4218
Жыл бұрын
@@satanissima would be very beneficial for them but at the end whatever they do is fine bc it works just the same at the end of the day
@grain9640
Жыл бұрын
@@lexielopez859 nah i tried writing french words with english phonetic rules once to help me pronounce stuff once as an experiment and it went terribly, i tried IPA notation and it went almost as bad i can't imagine it would work for korean either only thing that seems to work is IRRADIATING ur mind with the phonemes of a language until u can actually hear them, and then repeat stuff back until u hear it in your voice the right way, and practice over and over
that sounds like so much work i almost feel like it’d be easier to just learn korean 😭😭
@Coco-bl8zg
Жыл бұрын
Not really. It takes years to learn a new language. It only takes a few days to learn a song (usually). I only speak English but I've accidentally learned Korean and Russian songs simply by listening to them a lot. I know zero Korean or Russian but I could sing entire songs in those languages without too much difficulty. It sounds like a lot of work but like I said, I didn't even try to learn most of the songs I know. It just happened.
@ichliebebaeumeweilbaum
Жыл бұрын
@@Coco-bl8zg no the letters themselves (which is all she needs) often take a week to learn at max
@rjy44
Жыл бұрын
@@Coco-bl8zg I learned how to read korean in less than an hour. one of the easiest alphabets to read
@cakebeforeheartbreak
Жыл бұрын
@@rjy44 I’m not sure if you’re aware, but you don’t represent everyone lol. Different people learn at different speeds depending on the person
@Idaastrand
Жыл бұрын
@@cakebeforeheartbreak it actually is though, the written language is relatively new and was created specifically to be easy to learn in order for the illiterate farmers of the 1400s to be able to get an education :) the letters symbolize where to place your tongue in your mouth/what shape your lips should make. source: i learned to read korean from a 5 minute youtube video and then studied korean in korea for a year :) it's not about learning a language, it's about memorizing the alphabet a=ㅏ etc in order to be able to sound out a word. in the case of reading and sounding out the lyrics she'd only have to learn to read, not understand the meaning of the words. in other words, probably less than an hours work of memorizing 24 letters
I believe Korean has one of the most straightforward pronunciations when it comes to vowels especially if they are romanized. That's why its so easy to memorize lyrics even if you dont speak Korean.
@RadityaNugraheni2405
Жыл бұрын
No.. korean vowel is hard. I tried duolingo, and for example, I couldn't differentiate "eo" "yo" "yeo" sounds. Compare it to arabic which only has a, i, u and japanese which only has a, i, u, e, o, english is the same. German is the sampe plus 3 umlautes ü, ö, ä. Korean vowels are definitely one of the hardest.
@tsuyuasui7297
Жыл бұрын
Nah I disagree , that's definitely with japanese lol
@thebadrandom6427
Жыл бұрын
@@tsuyuasui7297 japanese sometimes doesnt even follow the common rules of intonation, with syllables like chotto and they omit some letters in some words
@thebadrandom6427
Жыл бұрын
@@RadityaNugraheni2405 if you familiarize yourself with those vowels its not really that hard. Vowels like yeo and yo you dont really need to emphasize their difference. I am used to arabic letters, and yes japanese may seem easier but they break the rules of intonation and usually omit letters
@chocolatte7736
Жыл бұрын
@@thebadrandom6427 Japanese comes more naturally to me than Korean 😅. But anyway, Japanese is not a tonal language so if you pronounce sentences not according to the pitch accent, you will still be understood because the point of learning or speaking another language is not to sound like a native from the get-go. More about mora. Mora is how long you should be spending on saying every hiragana/katakana character. Each character counts as one beat (ippaku). So when you say something like chotto, you would clap for every character like cho-(clap)-to. So they don’t necessarily “omit letters”, it’s really because they had no other way to make double consonants.
i just listen to the songs so many times that i can pronounce them 😭
@soyeonsveggiez
11 ай бұрын
Same lol, except for the rap parts. Those I have to slow down to learn, if they’re fast like Jennies Ddu du ddu du rap
The Korean alphabet is pretty easy to learn, so when I'm learning songs in Korean I just read the Hangeul and listen as I'm going to make sure I'm pronouncing correctly until I'm confident I've got it right 😅
Hey Alina I rec ntly saw an English versions release of Itzy - MITM. Maybe you only produced the song idk. But I was wondering when a kpop company releases an official English version after a Korean version, do they use original English lyrics of the demo or do they hire a lyricist to rewrite Korean version into English lyrics? Usually the latter means the essence of the original are kept. JYP released so many English songs and versions now! Stray Kids and Twice a long with Itzy all have em 😊😊
@LYREMusicGroup
Жыл бұрын
With ITZY it was a rewrite of the Korean lyrics in English! I think they wanted to keep the theme super consistent - and our og lyrics weren’t as similar to the Korean lyrics.
@LovelyLittleLillies
Жыл бұрын
@@LYREMusicGroup that makes sense. Thank you so much for answering! I went through a rabbit hole and learned that one of Itzy's song (was it wanna be? ) had so many different versions, including a Japanese one. They just missing a Chinese version
@CrisOnTheInternet
Жыл бұрын
At least for Twice, they did a great version of Cry For Me
@saku906
Жыл бұрын
No wonder why ITZY has the best english versions, they all sound so natural and very similar to the korean versions and they also have a great pronunciation, i love both of them versions equally
@satanissima
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about Twice these days but Stray Kids from the start writes and produces their own music so no lyricist is hired. Each group is different
i feel like it might be easier to learn the korean alphabet since theres only a couple letters but it's completely your choice! love ur singing❤
@emilwandel
Жыл бұрын
Then you will sing with an accent. Mimicking the sounds makes sure you thing without a foreign accent. But professional singers normally get trained to sing and enunciate different languages without learning them. Like Italian, German, French, ...
@axailaniya
Жыл бұрын
@@emilwandel being able to read in a language's original script (not necessarily being able to understand) isn't mutually exclusive with mimicking the sounds of said language! honestly I think it helps (for phonetic languages of course, like Korean), but that's just my anecdotal experience
@rxbiluhvrp
Жыл бұрын
I know only three words in Korean. That is fate, peace, and bxxch
@tsuyuasui7297
Жыл бұрын
@@emilwandel that's not always the case tho tbh ive been told I sound native whenever I sing in korean, however this can be different person to persom
@moonandsunrise7936
Жыл бұрын
No need coz there are romanized lyrics. Unless you're learning the language fully, then yes need to learn the korean alphabet. You'll get the hang of reading romanized lyrics when you've been listening to kpop songs for a long time, i did coz been listening and singing along for 2 decades already. I learned korean alphabets early on but didn't really learn the language coz of my laziness but i can read hangul but that's just it.
this is so interesting!!!
Honestly though Hangul is SUPER easy to learn and that might speed up the process for you!
Omggg in Giddy it was you?? Like i know you co-wrote giddy but I didn’t know you also sang it
This is so good! I do this when I do covers too because the English written lyrics for Korean is soooo confusing!
This is how I learn Japanese actually and it's a really good trick for pronunciation! 😌
this is exactly like learning a song on the guitar
you should definitely learn the korean alphabet! its super easy, takes like one day, and it does MILES for learning korean lyrics
That's how I learn how to rap to my favourite songs
alina I'm a Big fan of all ur songs lately and I been waiting for you to release cry wolf,pls pls release it,i been dying to hear it 😭
@LYREMusicGroup
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Maybe :)
@clementb-jhayruiz64
Жыл бұрын
@@LYREMusicGroup can wait to hear it 😭
Skin is amazing. Hair is beautiful.🔥
This advice is gold and how I was able to learn all the songs I liked in Korean before knowing the language. Especially raps work very well with this technique, even in English.
Best way to learn and sing korean music would be to start with a ballad song. I remembered my first Korean song was Yim Jae Beum, For you.
She’s so beautiful and I enjoy her process of producing
That eye liner is killing me!!!!❤❤❤
learning hangul is so easy and would save you so much time girl XD
Congratulations on your success. Thought is, why not, many K Pop groups sing in multiple languages without speaking the language
I KNEWWW I HEARD YOU ON GIDDYYY
This is great! Thanks for sharing!
Oh, yeah, i used to do the same when learning chores. When it comes to songs, i listen to them lots of times and when i look at the lyrics it's easier for me to pick up, but i do the same process. I feel good knowing i use a pro trick for my shower karaoke party 😂
This is exactly how i learned songs in different languages in choir, and now spanish songs just for fun. But i dont have the slowdown app anymore so i just replay parts of each verse over and over again while looking at the lyrics until i get it down then move to the next section.
thats a lot of work damn
Idk if I’m the only one thinking this but, wouldn’t it be easier to learn the Korean alphabet and sounds to make life easier?
Learning to read the romanised lyrics was so easy, and then it was even easier to learn to read hangul after that. Been practicing to read the hangul without slowing the song down now
Yassss for remote access 😊❤
I just listen to a song so much I learn the sounds not the words - I did it with Despacito and I can now actually sing and rap in Spanish - and I did so on a stage in Spain and nobody realised I didn’t speak Spanish lmao
Love this!!! I would love to do this 😊
Okay i now want this job
Super interesting ❤ glad to learn this
Heyyy I love your songs
Ohhh you’re like the foundation or base of their high pitched vocals that’s so dope !!!
Can you make a video on how to get started and sending songs to kpop companies ? Esp. when you're solely a songwroter and not a producer -how do you reach them and what do you send ? Thanks :(
This is actually what I do when learning dance covers. It helps break down the words
I do the same too to learn a korean song I first go I get that acapella version of a song then get go to 0.75x speed and if a rap then at 0.5x learning verse by verse I change the speed to higher then finally sing at 2x so when I normalize it my mind think it's a slow version and get better catch on lyrics in 2 - 3 hours I get ready with a korean song including the pitchs
back in the day we would pause the mp3 every few words and just write "misheard lyrics" so english words that sounded similar to the original, and then pronounce them funnily 😅
You thought me a new way on how to learn rap songs
For me just reading the romanized lyrics us easiest cause most of the time, the letters sound the same way in English and I find it accurate 😂
Great tips, thanks!!
Talented people are just built different. Respect!
to me you and your friends are way cooler then all the other commercial so called artists ...I love how you guys got into K pop...love your work!
Honestly, solid tip to learn any new foreign language song. I'm gonna try this on my german opera music!!! Vocal exams coming up soooon, thank youu💗
I hope you’re getting royalties for your voice girllll
That's how I learned English singing 5ive.
Wow, awesome job
This is a great idea
i mean that’s just smart. that’s how i learn complicated vocal builds or notes.
this has literally been me with many japanese songs and anime openings (though it helps that i’ve been learning japanese) because they slap hard asf and i always wanna be able to sing them when i hear them-
I do this with any song in a different language. Lol I'll try to figure out the words/pronunciations by ear, but look up the lyrics to visually see the word if i struggle with a pronunciation because sometimes hearing it while also seeing it helps me pick out the letters in the word better and can figure out the pronunciation from there.
I use to do this a lot when I was younger (for songs in diff languages).
That's genius!
This is how we learned foreign language pieces when I was in high school choir. Half speed then normal. We had a world class hs choir but didn’t know it. We thought every school had the same! The big city philharmonic orchestra invited us every year to supplement their pro-am chorus for the spring and winter concerts.
Okay, I do this in my car constantly and don’t know a lick of Korean, someone hire me 😂
Well I have no excuse to not be able to write music for any language or any genre, then.? Huh. Always amazing! This is so so cool! ❤
This is how I learn to rap on kpop song's rap part
THATS WHAT I DO WITH ANIME OPENINGS (I get the romaji lyrics and I listen to what it sounds like and just repeat it and it sounds like very identical so I can finally vibe to the songs I like)
i like singing along to kpop but dont speak korean, but i taight myself how to pronouce/sound out hangeul to make it easier lol
@kermiekermie333
Жыл бұрын
although i usually end up reading romanized lyrics but even thats easier bc i know how specific vowels r pronounced in korean bc theyre all pronounce the same each time unlike english ( ㅏ is always pronounced like the a in almond unlike how a is pronounced differently in different english words)
I feel like it would help a bunch to be able to read the lyrics as well. No? You don’t need to actually know any of the language, but Hangeul is almost completely spoken phonetically and is SUPER easy to learn. It’s honestly insane how simple it is when you compare to the Roman alphabet. If you had an afternoon to dedicate to it, you can learn the entire thing in a couple of hours. It’ll obviously take a bit to commit everything to memory to the point where you’re not reading like a 2nd grader, but since you’ll be reading frequently as part of your job, you could be reading at a regular pace by the end of the week!
Same as what I do for singing in different languages in choir! Referencing native speakers and slowing down the video speed really helps with understanding pronunciation 👏
I love this twice song. The choreo is even better.
U made a great song. Can’t stop listening to Giddy
i feel like what i would do is listen to it a bunch of times slowed. then right down in a random text doc or piece of paper general sounds (like lalala or something like that) then try to repeat it until it sounds like the original
This is sort of how I learned French! I would find a song I really love, open up the lyrics then slow it down until I could pronounce each of the words. It helps to expose you to new words and is helpful in picking up slang (especially for hip hop and rap songs)
I learned how to read hangul to help me pronounce korean songs better... by transcribing it into my own version of romanized hangul. 😂
I've spent several years of my life in choirs. The answer is basically just that you memorize it the same way you memorize pitch and rhythm! It takes a little longer than if you are singing in a language you know because you don't get shortcuts, but it's honestly not as hard as non-singers might think it is! Music is one of the easiest bits of knowledge to commit to memory
This is what I do to learn rap bits!!!
That's really cool
I’m currently studying Korean and honestly, just learning the characters would be a lot easier. It’s really easy to learn and it would save a lot of time. You would be surprised. I learned it in a couple days.
I've been doing covers in Korean without speaking it (I know a few things from songs qnd dramas only), the pronunciation is indeed really important to practice, I read the lyrics in romanized version when I sing but I know how to say them because I've listened to the song several times !😊
What also helps is writing it out in your language the way you would pronounce it. That helps me a lot. So combining reading and listening.
super professional
That’s so similar to how i got my french and spanish accents to a better quality. Gotta focus on those foreign quick sound changes
Romanized lyrics will also save your life. Thats actually how i started learning korean. Since english is my first language, it was much easier for me to learn romanized words first, then learn the korean alphabet and so on.
You are a genius you are amazing you help thanks you so much
I js look up the lyrics and learn the song it rlly easy!
this is how I learned a French song without knowing French.
Girl same. I sing French, Spanish, Hindi, Japanese and Portuguese. I also make sure to ask what I'm singing about so I could correctly approach it vocally.
Being someone who is a Taylor Guitar employee Finisher specifically on the guitar necks, it's so cool to see our guitars everywhere. Maybe I'm wrong and those aren't Taylors in the background lol idk!
If you have lyrics, then the language is probably gonna be easy to practice
That’s what I did while singing German, Italian, Latin, French arias in chorals
That's impressive. I have a hard time differentiating between word endings, like suh and chuh in English, so I don't think I would have any luck at all picking out sounds in another language.
I do it the same way for my Italian songs!
This is literally what I do any time I sing a song in another language😅
I can kinda read korean so I just write down what I hear in my first language and check with the words when I really want to sing along with something lol
DUDE. I KNEWWW IT!!! I JUST KNEW AFTER THE FIRST LISTEN OF GIDDY I THOUGHT, hmm I wonder, did LYRE work on this song?? 🤔🤔 regardless a bop omg lemme *replays song* 😫 …. But no fr it’s SOOO GOOD & I STG THERES A PART WHERE I WAS UNSURE IF IT WAS YOU IN THE BACKGROUND, ACTUALLY YOU, IF I WAS TRIPPIN OR WHAT😭😭😭😭 & THE A TO MY Q IS ITS TRUEE IT ID YOUUUU-AAHh !!! CONGRATULATIONS 🎉 ❤❤❤ !!!!
One or two years back I had to cover a Japanese song for a project. I thought Learning it by ear first would be so much more helpful but I just ended up mispronouncing a ton of words and had to relearn the entire thing by reading the romanji instead. I still make mistakes despite knowing the song now. My project partner learned to romanji first and did perfectly. Unfortunately it wasn't the same for me. Glad it works for you though haha
There was a reduction of Les Mis where Eponine was Japanese (I think) and spike zero English. She learned her part phonetically as you do. It’s the BEST rendition of Eponine and A Little Fall Of Rain I’ve ever heard ❤
Fake it till you make it❤️