How I set up my bass (and the “rasp” secret)

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People often ask me how I get that "raspy" sound when I play.
And, I've got a confession...
A lot of it (as in, a HUGE amount) is in the way I actually set up my basses.
That's why in my earlier videos I didn't have "that rasp" and in my newer videos over the last few years, I have bucket loads of rasp.
I changed the way I was setting up my basses!
So... I thought it's was about time I show you how I set up my basses...
As in, the EXACT measurements.
And even cooler - you can do it with only a few tools that you'll likely have lying around your house.
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  • @merqury5
    @merqury55 жыл бұрын

    I lowered my action by getting married.

  • @alecmejia1960

    @alecmejia1960

    5 жыл бұрын

    merqury5 Hahahaha great one

  • @catboyzee

    @catboyzee

    5 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ftomasi

    @ftomasi

    5 жыл бұрын

    jajaja

  • @kingc5341

    @kingc5341

    5 жыл бұрын

    Boom!

  • @matthewheinecke2621

    @matthewheinecke2621

    5 жыл бұрын

    Then you picked the wrong one. Sorry for your luck!

  • @Nicster-tk4ce
    @Nicster-tk4ce4 жыл бұрын

    I am new to playing bass and it was pretty scary to lower those strings on my own! I was sweating blood and water, worried about me ruining my bass but actually I really managed to lower them to a good distance thanks to your clip.. woohoo!

  • @ssonicdeafmonkey

    @ssonicdeafmonkey

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's gonna be me later this week. I'm waiting for my bass and amp to ship.

  • @annefrank4657

    @annefrank4657

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nicster1604 same am scared to death I just got mine

  • @hoodedbassplayer7116

    @hoodedbassplayer7116

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here, just got my bass a few weeks ago and came across this video. Wish me luck!!

  • @Surge_LaChance

    @Surge_LaChance

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're on the right path. Do yourself a favor and watch some "Dave's World of Fun Stuff" videos as well. It's very easy to setup your own instruments once you do it a few times. I prefer to do it by the numbers, as that removes a lot if variables. You can get the tools for pretty cheap.

  • @jaimeestonactoc9693

    @jaimeestonactoc9693

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m in this situation now. I’m a little confused though, are the strings supposed to be the same height at every fret?

  • @admarhermans1
    @admarhermans15 жыл бұрын

    There's one more issue important for a great set-up: the nut height (mostly an issue on cheaper basses).

  • @malcolmgoldie

    @malcolmgoldie

    5 жыл бұрын

    Agreed ! Much more difficult to adjust though.

  • @Arrgh2112

    @Arrgh2112

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not really. You can pull them out and use a fine grit sandpaper to slowly get it where it needs to be. Just take it slow so you don't go too far.

  • @Jihadbearzwithgunz

    @Jihadbearzwithgunz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep first fret action can deter alot of people from playing an instrument.

  • @DatBoi-mo9vc

    @DatBoi-mo9vc

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why is setup so unagreeable most of the time?

  • @RST_Omega

    @RST_Omega

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DatBoi-mo9vc massively late response but just in the off chance you still care: it's a combination of a good setup being subjective and people's differing DIY skills changing what some see as an easy thing to fix (in this case, nut height, an issue that I've fixed in the past but I know people who see it as nigh-impossible)

  • @randallclark2407
    @randallclark24074 жыл бұрын

    Totally love your videos man. I just started playing again after a 20 year hiatus. You've been a true help and inspiration my friend.

  • @9ball07
    @9ball075 жыл бұрын

    Finally, my bass doesn't feel like a military assault course for the fingers. Cheers Scott!

  • @lordoftheelements2112

    @lordoftheelements2112

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂🤣 A military assault course? That’s funny because that’s exactly how mine felt as well!

  • @terrymiller111
    @terrymiller1115 жыл бұрын

    I have been playing for 38 years. You are the ONLY bass channel I subscribe to on KZread. You are the only person who consistently provides information I could trust any students with.

  • @dorjeslacker
    @dorjeslacker5 жыл бұрын

    Probably the most lucid explanation of Bass setup I have seen. Good geekspeek::plainspeak ratio. The part about the ability to access the rasp at will is the critical bit. It took me three years of casual fiddling to figure that out on my own. It all came together for me when you demo-ed and gave it a name. Thanks Scott&friends

  • @Stewbass1
    @Stewbass15 жыл бұрын

    Satin neck finishes seem to feel so much smoother to me at least...Thanks Scott for your contributions to the bass community...You are truly appreciated!

  • @thestealth8847
    @thestealth88475 жыл бұрын

    Killer tips on setting up on bass especially that elbow thing. Many thanks Scott!

  • @u2dva

    @u2dva

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's handy just in case you don't have a capodaster for the first fret.

  • @arc323is

    @arc323is

    4 жыл бұрын

    Saw Gary Willis do it first.

  • @dannyphillips995
    @dannyphillips9955 жыл бұрын

    Scotty , another winner! Loving the “Bow wah bab” sound . I’ve always been a bit afraid of fiddling with my instruments but now I’m going to give it ago. See your always inspirational.

  • @brucemcdonald1114

    @brucemcdonald1114

    2 жыл бұрын

    Whatever adjustment you make, you can un do.

  • @jambarreturns9060
    @jambarreturns90602 жыл бұрын

    I started playing the Bass around 51 years ago (badly) and to be honest, we never ever knew how to adjust the Bass’s. But thanks to The Bass God Scott and You Tube, everything is possible. I wish to God I could live my life again and really enjoy my various Bass Guitars over the years. All you young players out there, hark to Scott’s words and the Music World is yours. Thank you Scott. 🇬🇧🇦🇺🇺🇸🇳🇿🇨🇦

  • @AGV133
    @AGV1334 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the help Scott. I set up my bass by following this video. My measurements are different, only slightly higher than yours, but it feels great for both finger and pick playing. Very comfortable and still gets that raspiness. No buzzing in my mixes either so really stoked about that. Great video. Thanks again!

  • @NightPaddle
    @NightPaddle5 жыл бұрын

    I don`t hate glossy necks, because I know how to use 600-1000 grid sandpaper. ;)

  • @hunkydorian

    @hunkydorian

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well, then it's not glossy any more, is it, dummy?

  • @iceboy1671

    @iceboy1671

    5 жыл бұрын

    whoosh

  • @DanielSmith-yk4ds

    @DanielSmith-yk4ds

    5 жыл бұрын

    fine grade steel wool works pretty good too.

  • @bdrums

    @bdrums

    5 жыл бұрын

    ...Or a Scotch Brite pad. (It's like plastic steel wool.)

  • @duncansmith69

    @duncansmith69

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@hunkydorian is it difficult to make friends with that attitude?

  • @dphidt
    @dphidt5 жыл бұрын

    “Orange Sprague” refers to the manufacturer and model type of the tone capacitor. Once manufactured by Sprague, then Vishay/Sprague(1993), the “Orange Drop” line is now manufactured by Cornell Dubilier. The “Orange Drop” caps are a radial leaded Mylar capacitor. They’re called “Orange Drop” caps because they’re dipped in an orange plastic coating. The main point is that they are a high quality Mylar capacitor, and not a ceramic disc capacitor. The “Orange Drop” cap has attained a level of fame in the amplifier world. That reputation has spilled over into tone circuits for guitars.

  • @gorillaump5869

    @gorillaump5869

    Жыл бұрын

    I bet women turn into the Sahara desert down there around you.

  • @felderup

    @felderup

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brianlynn6154 as a loser that's charmed a bunch of women with knowledge, though i was far too unaware to take advantage, i have to say knowing things does work but be aware you're getting the interest or you'll remain unlaid.

  • @dandaddeadbeat8788
    @dandaddeadbeat87884 ай бұрын

    Wanted to say the biggest thank you for this. Thought I was a pretty good guitar technician for about 17 years, but turns out I was massively over estimating the fretboard curve and I just assumed all this time I couldn't get the action any lower. My muddy 6 string Yamaha is suddenly full of life and this could revolutionise my playing. Incredible! Thank you!

  • @richardmilligan1410
    @richardmilligan14104 жыл бұрын

    Been using the "rasp" for years. I love the low action. It's not about strength for me, it's about technique.

  • @xriex
    @xriex4 жыл бұрын

    My thought process: "Scott's fingers on his left hand look quite thin ... OMG HE'S NOT WEARING THE GLOVE!!"

  • @Oilid
    @Oilid5 жыл бұрын

    Your channel is so precious bro! Just, THANK YOU for sharing! I learned so much. 🤓👍

  • @natefuller5857
    @natefuller58575 жыл бұрын

    This is the video I've been looking for since I got my new P bass. THANK YOU. Going to give a setup another go tonight with this knowledge. Thanks!

  • @mutti6452
    @mutti64525 жыл бұрын

    Glad to see you with Czech brand. I am proud that my country can make somethinh usefull and enjoyable. Keep bassing, may your strings entertain as many people as possible!

  • @kevmac1230

    @kevmac1230

    2 ай бұрын

    Your country has some fine builders.

  • @declanmctiernan7338
    @declanmctiernan73385 жыл бұрын

    I agree satin necks feel much better. Gonna give the action a tweak lower on my 5string this weekend. It's good to have bit of rasp when u dig in a little.

  • @mordyfisher4269
    @mordyfisher42695 жыл бұрын

    Oh man what a cool adjustment, fot me to get this effect i bend the whole instrument. By pulling back with my forearm and countering the pressure with my fretting hand

  • @ansol68
    @ansol685 жыл бұрын

    Love that bass. I know this is after the fact and you won't see this, but I just have to say that I love your style. You passion and enthusiasm is infectious. Just what the doctor has ordered for me. Keep up the great work, my friend.

  • @seanoxton5572
    @seanoxton55725 жыл бұрын

    That is the coolest bass I have seen in a while. Must be nice to be gifted stuff like that.

  • @no-ff8gm
    @no-ff8gm5 жыл бұрын

    I have a bass with a sanded neck and great action. Then I've recently bought a fender dimension bass with high action and the glossiest neck i have ever seen. Never played gloss before. The transition is still in progress but i think i like it. After a while of playing, your hands become sweaty and the neck becomes silk to play.

  • @ThorneyedWT

    @ThorneyedWT

    5 жыл бұрын

    Urethane gloss and Nitro gloss are two really different glosses. Urethane feels like hardened rubber while Nitro feels much more natural.

  • @candle_eatist

    @candle_eatist

    4 жыл бұрын

    I remember playing a Yamaha BB with a neck that was disgustingly glossy. It felt like clear spray paint that didn't fully dry. It was half - sticky. Every time I tried to move my thumb around it would get stuck, yucky. Not a good experience

  • @karlosss1868
    @karlosss18685 жыл бұрын

    Great advise Scott... thx. Just one note your viewers may be interested in is that if you regularly play using the 18th to 24 frets, you will definitely pick up some fret buzz by lowering the bridge adjustments to that level unless your frets have been ground with a slight "Fade-Away" from the 18th to 24th which in most cases is unlikely. It's certainly an art setting up a bass guitar. I've found the truss rod adjustment impacts on string feel & if set too low, the strings buzz more when lifting your fingers after playing a note. Great Vid..... I often wondered about your "G" string height (action) as you seem easily able to twang the string when playing Slap.

  • @redachraibi5993
    @redachraibi59934 жыл бұрын

    Didn’t know you could do that. Always looked for strings closer to the neck for easier and faster play... The additional rasp was a great bonus. Significantly changed the way I sound and I’m more comfortable playing!!

  • @wilfreve3785
    @wilfreve37855 жыл бұрын

    Agree on the neck. I specify an unfinished neck on my basses and finish them once a year with Tung oil. Smoothest neck you can find. Love the videos!

  • @AndyJWalsh
    @AndyJWalsh4 жыл бұрын

    'Smidge' Scott, short for smidgeon. 1' 26" I love these videos and will be signing up for the academy as soon as I have built myself a Bass.

  • @tane4652
    @tane46523 жыл бұрын

    5:00 for anything actually important

  • @lordoftheelements2112

    @lordoftheelements2112

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, you know, he was sharing something that obviously excited him. He wanted us to have a little taste of what he experienced. He wanted to share something with us. There’s nothing wrong with that.

  • @Sloaner69

    @Sloaner69

    2 жыл бұрын

    @61 Cygni Great news, someone already commented with the time stamp for you! But if that's too much work, and you like Scott's content but only want applicable bass knowledge and none of the fluff, you can join his paid service where you can get exactly that! scottsbasslessons.com/

  • @MustDote
    @MustDote5 жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks Scott, would have been nice to see some of their basses up close. One thing maybe worth mentioning is the intonation check.i.e. explain the truss and action change - check the 12th fret harmonic is the same as it frettted and also which way to adjust the bridge pieces. Cheers again.

  • @acledfloyd
    @acledfloyd3 жыл бұрын

    I just adjusted my bass’s truss rod for the first time because of this. Thank you so much. It’s like a different bass now.

  • @grantkoeller8911
    @grantkoeller89112 жыл бұрын

    When tightening the truss rod, always loosen string tension first, by loosening the strings.

  • @gffg387

    @gffg387

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah. Don't be a pussy.

  • @anthonymaimer
    @anthonymaimer5 жыл бұрын

    For checking neck relief, I think it is more consistent to fret at first (maybe capo) and the twelfth fret to see how much relief there is. This would be more consistent since basses may have 19, 20, 21 or 24 frets which means the relief of the neck would show up different.

  • @kodykindhart5644

    @kodykindhart5644

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or where neck meets body

  • @BrianMorris-zc4md
    @BrianMorris-zc4mdАй бұрын

    Thanks Scott (and anyone else involved)! My Jazz and I are in a better place thanks to this video. It gave me the confidence to do my first setup, which included having to remove the neck to get at the truss rod Phillips head. Scary going in/happiness coming out.

  • @dialect64
    @dialect645 жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing that I switched my pbass to a lighter gauge of strings and thus needed to do some adjustments and you post this vid! I know the basics and have done setups, but the idea of using the string itself as a straight edge somehow never occurred to me! 😣😃👌👍 time to dial my baby in!

  • @simonecaneparo9878
    @simonecaneparo98784 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff, to check the action it's more accurate to use feeler gauges

  • @garethhjones
    @garethhjones4 жыл бұрын

    Action is a personal thing. Some people like their action a little on the high side some people like a really low action (like the strings have been painted on the fretboard). It's a matter of choice I suppose.

  • @AntonioMeres
    @AntonioMeres3 жыл бұрын

    The Fender Jazz Bass was over 4mm from factory and now barely over 2mm. Such a difference on action and just a bit in tone. Thank you so much! Cheers from Chile! :D

  • @mrp410
    @mrp4104 жыл бұрын

    Followed the process and landed pretty much where you did on yours Scott. I prefer it - thanks!

  • @paweglita153
    @paweglita1535 жыл бұрын

    Might be worth mentioning that the bass will need to ''settle'' over time and might need some slight adjustments again. Great video.

  • @glennselwitz6598
    @glennselwitz65985 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to do intonation for the nation...use a feeler .018 guage and a capo for setting relief, I've never seen the elbow method thats ghetto awesome!!!!

  • @Jihadbearzwithgunz

    @Jihadbearzwithgunz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Right i use a .015 gauge feeler for my set up and always check radius to assure its not disturbed.

  • @knrtn439
    @knrtn4394 жыл бұрын

    And now my Fender American Pro P-bass is AWSOME. Thanks a lot! The action on this thing was super high! had it for 7 months too so was about time

  • @cptv8874
    @cptv88743 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from Durango, Colorado! Dude, you rock! I just got a new rig. Ray 35 with an Eden 300 watt head and a goliath jr cab. Love your work.

  • @63stratoman
    @63stratoman4 жыл бұрын

    Sprague “Orange Drop” capacitor. Basically a capacitor with a polyester dielectric and an orange outer cover hence the name “Orange Drop.” Some insist that they produce better “tone” than other capacitors but it is the actual capacitance value that shapes the tone rather than the “brand” or composition! If you already have a Mylar, Polystyrene, or Mica capacitor and replace it with an “Orange Drop” of the same value (.022 uf, for example), you will most likely not have noticeable change of tone. The advantages of an “Orange Drop” is that they are high quality with a better “tolerance” meaning a much lower variance in the specified value meaning a manufacturer using “Orange Drops” in their tone circuit will have better tonal consistency from one instrument to the next. One type of capacitor that should never be used in a tone circuit is a ceramic capacitor as they tend to be microphonic. If your bass has a ceramic capacitor, it would be a good idea to have it replaced and an “Orange Drop” would work well. If you have a Mylar or polystyrene cap, I wouldn’t bother unless you wanted to change the capacitance value to attenuate either higher or lower frequencies. And if you want to swap out capacitors, it is better to get them from an electrical parts supplier rather than Stew Mac or some other guitar place where they are trying to sell you some “snake oil” and will charge you accordingly! Hope this helps

  • @jbvaav8474

    @jbvaav8474

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @leonardocontesini5386

    @leonardocontesini5386

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's not about better tone, but better capability of retaining the original capacitance along the years. They have less degradation due ageing. Oil caps, for instance, will eventually leak and lose their capacitance, with a faster degradation.

  • @squirlmy

    @squirlmy

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@leonardocontesini5386 that's confusing, because I've seen sites advertise exotic Oil Caps, such as those made in Soviet Russia. Since their technology developed more slowly, they were still using them almost exclusively as the rest of the world moved on. Maybe they're "snake oil", but there's enough interest in them to be in demand, so at least some people seem to think they do give better tone.

  • @leonardocontesini5386

    @leonardocontesini5386

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@squirlmy I think it's a matter of vintage looks or maintenance of the original specs - something that affect their market value. Oil caps are prone to leaking, which degrades their capacitance.

  • @Liko81DJ

    @Liko81DJ

    3 жыл бұрын

    As most manufacturers do use ceramic caps, especially anywhere under a grand, Orange Drops are often enough of an upgrade materials-wise to be worth it. As far as cost, the finer the tolerance, the more "rejects" you're paying for in the price of your caps. I've bought packs of 22 and 47nF caps from Fry's and other general electrical suppliers, which are guaranteed to be within 10% of their labeled spec. Most of the ones I've gotten are right at 10% off-spec, and maybe 1 in a dozen was within 1%. So, Sprague's markup is inherent in the manufacturing tolerances of these components; they are selling the best 3 or 4 per dozen that are within 5% of spec, and the rest get resold for use in situations where 10% really is close enough. BTW, parallel capacitance sums, so if you want *exactly* the cap spec on a budget, find one that's under-spec but as close as possible, and tweak it the rest of the way with a few 1nF caps in parallel.

  • @djbonner1026
    @djbonner10265 жыл бұрын

    I've been playing bass for 20+ years and thought the "rasp" sound I love so much was inherent in individual instruments, not the configuration. THANK YOU so much for sharing this "secret" tweak. I just gave my fretless a free upgrade to the sound I've always wanted it to have. I can't thank you enough! Question: I lowered my bridge to give my bass a conservative amount of "rasp", and it gives me a clean sound with just a hint of rasp color for casual playing. Perfect. I was messing around and discovered that if I pull back on the neck slightly and pull back on the body with my chest as the fulcrum, I can crank up the amount of rasp as needed. Will this damage the instrument in any way? Is there an established technique to do this more effectively without losing agility?

  • @Jihadbearzwithgunz

    @Jihadbearzwithgunz

    4 жыл бұрын

    As long as your not doing it for extended periods of time and or hearing the neck creek a bunch you should be fine. There is potential to possible assist in a twist in the neck to develope so i would be cautious (this would only happen if its really humid where you or your bass are kept.

  • @gforce152
    @gforce1525 жыл бұрын

    Hey Scott - GForce here - the orange sprague capacitor was used for many years in many basses ( Fender in particular) in the vintage tone circuits of passive basses. Part of the reason for that awesome vintage tone.

  • @bryanavery3654
    @bryanavery36543 жыл бұрын

    This helped me out a ton! Thank you for making such an easy to follow video

  • @timpayne8238
    @timpayne82385 жыл бұрын

    Sprague Orangedrops are a brand of capacitor used for tone controls in a lot of high-end guitars. The name comes from the sweet believe it or not!

  • @tim7of717

    @tim7of717

    4 жыл бұрын

    Other companies make orangedrops also.

  • @JunkMailBoxStuff

    @JunkMailBoxStuff

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tim7of717 ... And other companies make cars. Do you want the Lexus (Sprague) or the *other company's* car (Daewoo, Fiat, ...) just because they both have 4 wheels & an engine that runs. *Quality* does make a difference or the those who like quality wouldn't care.

  • @cobygaurin4596

    @cobygaurin4596

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JunkMailBoxStuff Lexus' are just toyotas with leather and chrome, bad example.

  • @greggoso600
    @greggoso6005 жыл бұрын

    glossy necks are nice to watch satin necks are nice to play btw nice video, actually didnt even think about that trick with the action before

  • @dpdupuis5

    @dpdupuis5

    5 жыл бұрын

    greg goso the proper way is to use a capo on the 1st fret and hold the string down at the fret where the neck meets the body (not the way he did it) then check your clearance at the mid point between fret 1 and where you're holding down the string.

  • @PicklePaint

    @PicklePaint

    5 жыл бұрын

    I like my glossy neck God knows how fast my left hand would be on a satin neck

  • @hiramkhackenbacker

    @hiramkhackenbacker

    5 жыл бұрын

    David Dupuis - Exactly. Also, why tune using the harmonic? All very well showing us how he does it, but ‘about the thickness of a credit card’ is a lot thicker than any of my feeler gauges and not exact enough to achieve what this video aims to provide. As for the arm holding down the strings and no capo 🙄. The lack of capo suggests that ALL nuts are the same and we know that ain’t true. Great player, but not a brilliant lesson in how to set up a bass IMHO. You could do a lot worse going over to Fodera’s website and watching Jason going through everything you need to know about setting up a bass. Slightly longwinded, but very thorough www.fodera.com/how-to-set-up-your-fodera/

  • @PicklePaint

    @PicklePaint

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bass mike I would but my only bass is a MM Stingray old smoothie and id lose money trading it in for like a regular Stingray I think.

  • @PicklePaint

    @PicklePaint

    5 жыл бұрын

    I guess I could swap the neck out

  • @chiefrwlinder1465
    @chiefrwlinder14653 жыл бұрын

    wow, thanks for the reassurance man. did this myself before hand and I did a decent job with it but now I know for sure. thanks again bro ✌

  • @photographerjonathan
    @photographerjonathan5 жыл бұрын

    just subscribed last night, and this video is just what I needed, now to play around adjusting my bass

  • @zdude335
    @zdude3355 жыл бұрын

    Wow, thank you for the tip for that raspy sound! I always wondered how to get this. Would you also recommend this setup for a pbass with flatwounds?

  • @MrRchauvin052494
    @MrRchauvin0524944 жыл бұрын

    Got a soundgear gr400 from some point in the 90’s that has a gloss finish on the neck and I must say Can wait to fix my lotus p bass with a satin neck

  • @Jihadbearzwithgunz

    @Jihadbearzwithgunz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Scotch brite the neck and give it some oil treatment.

  • @frodehau
    @frodehau5 жыл бұрын

    Good quick setup guide. Very simmilar to how I do it when the initial setup is reasonable. But I take the time to check intonation, I also do that when I change strings, important if you change gauge or brand.

  • @totobrasil99
    @totobrasil995 жыл бұрын

    Very useful, the first video I see that really helps to understand the magic. Thanks

  • @N0B0DY_SP3C14L
    @N0B0DY_SP3C14L5 жыл бұрын

    Steel wool does a nice job for putting satin on a glossy neck. The word us older folks use is "growl", not raspy sound. Buzz sucks, growl is awesome when used correctly. A couple of things I would suggest showing folks are how to intonate the bass you just adjusted the truss and saddles on. That done, you might at least mention shimming the neck (for those without micro-tilt necks). Yes, it matters for those without neck-throughs because sometimes to get the correct relief and action throughout the entirety of the fretboard, that's what needs to happen. Also, I didn't hear mention of the fact that one should put on a fresh set of strings when redoing the setup, unless they NEVER change their strings (like Jamerson or Rocco). All that said, you still did a good job of explaining things. Oh, and BTW, it's 1/4 turn every 20 minutes, to allow the neck to stabilize under the new tension, so adjust, check action, wait or play 20 minutes, then adjust again and repeat if needs be. Carry on, geez!

  • @CorvusCoroneCanisLupusSawel
    @CorvusCoroneCanisLupusSawel4 жыл бұрын

    Sprague Orange Drop caps, supposedly, give a 'vintage' tone.

  • @9thchild358
    @9thchild3585 жыл бұрын

    As a new bass player, this was hugely helpful. Thank you. Also, have you thought about also posting your podcast to KZread? I think you should. It would get you more listeners would almost mean you are uploading more.

  • @adamrivera195
    @adamrivera1955 жыл бұрын

    You always blow me away with your playing

  • @carlwilson4375
    @carlwilson43755 жыл бұрын

    I also bought a set of radius gauges for $11.00. The gages fit under the strings.

  • @jetblackknight4638
    @jetblackknight46385 жыл бұрын

    Scott just use a capo at the first fret. 😎👍

  • @michaldrahny5524

    @michaldrahny5524

    5 жыл бұрын

    oh shit man, you're fuckin genius :Dddd

  • @Chasjazzez

    @Chasjazzez

    5 жыл бұрын

    Put the capo on top of the first fret, not in front of it. Because a capo can add to much pressure on the string, and elevate it...

  • @fredfabris7187

    @fredfabris7187

    5 жыл бұрын

    I like his method, can be done in a music shop or anywhere anytime you might be looking at an instrument you might buy

  • @MDCCLXXIV
    @MDCCLXXIV3 ай бұрын

    Extremely helpful assessment. The Upper Nut - Elbow on Mid Bridge stunning, I ran to my bass and wow, game changer. The whole video deserves applause. Please mate, if you end up having a double rod bass for setup, do share your wisdom.

  • @johnnyvonline1862
    @johnnyvonline18622 жыл бұрын

    Im a member at SBLA...I've been exploring True Temperment Frets, Scalloped fingerboards, Taylor tuning, String types and their manufacturing techniques, as well as Tone-woods and Hardward and the way they affect the (bass) Guitar. The bass community would love a one stop video going over the "finer points" of bass instrumentation.

  • @ericmorrell806
    @ericmorrell8065 жыл бұрын

    Proper way to measure your neck relief is to fret the 1st and 15th fret and measure from the top of the 7th fret to the bottom of the high and low E strings (G for bass). Average neck relief there should measure .005" to .008" (5 to 8 thousandths). The easiest way to do this is to capo fret 1 and finger fret 12 (with your off hand), then use a feeler gauge to measure at the 7th fret. I went to college for lutherie, and this is how my teachers taught us, and this is how I do it at work. *make sure to take all measurements while holding the instrument as if it were being played. If it's sitting flat on its back, gravity can affect the measurements.

  • @paulanderson79

    @paulanderson79

    5 жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to apply exactly the same formula or approach to every single instrument and the requirements of every single player?

  • @ericmorrell806

    @ericmorrell806

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@paulanderson79 Yes, that works for all guitars and basses. It's a little different for instruments like mandolin and banjo, though. Also, neck relief for classical guitars is usually a little higher, though I set my classical to .008". The .005"-.008" measurements are just averages. Some players may want it higher or lower. It really all depends on what the player wants. Less than .005" is likely to cause buzzing, though. When I do a setup for a customer I usually have them play for me to watch their technique and ask some questions to get their preferences, then adjust it according to that. Someone with a light touch who plays fast I will usually set closer to .005", and a heavy handed guitarist who plays rough I would go closer to .008". Then, after the setup, I have them play again and fine tune the action if they think it feels too high/low. I take notes for each customer after every setup so that I can duplicate the results the next time they come back. It is much, much easier to show than to type an explanation. If you want some good info on this process, look up videos by Dan Erlewine on setting neck relief and action height. He is a luthier legend, and a master at setups. He's maybe the most famous guitar repair tech in the world, and he has great instructional videos all over KZread.

  • @paulanderson79

    @paulanderson79

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ericmorrell806 Thank you for very interesting information. Basically you're saying is that there is a fairly narrow range of what is correct and player and player style dictates where you 'park' things within that range.

  • @ericmorrell806

    @ericmorrell806

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@paulanderson79 Pretty much. To a beginner guitarist .003" may be nearly undetectable, but to an experienced or, more so, a master musician, even .001" is a noticeable change in feel for action and/or neck relief. I've been playing 21 years, and I can tell when my action is off by more than .001". Being a trained luthier I'm probably pickier about my setup than some players, but I set up my main guitars about every 3 months as the seasons in MN change. I can tell that the instrument has moved. That .003" range is not as narrow as you may think. It all comes down to the player. Good guitar techs are ones who know how to set up a guitar to a player and their play style, and can duplicate that feel when needed. It takes lots of practice and detailed notes to keep picky players coming back. After hundreds of setups the feel becomes second nature and measurements become more guidelines than anything....if that makes sense.

  • @ericmorrell806

    @ericmorrell806

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@paulanderson79 I'm by no means a master luthier or anything, but I had really good teachers and lots of training. Everything I know is what they taught me, but after doing it for several years now, I'm getting to understand how my teachers could do entire setups pretty much by feel. They only really measured to double check their work. It's incredible to watch those guys eyeball the action, turn the truss rod one time, and get it just right almost every time on the 1st try even with a guitar they've only held once. Those guys have been pros for 30+ years, though!

  • @midiman5045
    @midiman50455 жыл бұрын

    I would have checked the intonation especially if I lowered the bridge. Thanks for the video..

  • @Jihadbearzwithgunz

    @Jihadbearzwithgunz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Intonation would only need to be checked after the truss rod adjustment. Tightening it with increase the distance making the notes sharp loosening it causes the opposite(but would over all not be as noticeable unless your neck is a straight canoe) saddle height will lower the tone as it decreases the tension tune back up and your good to go.

  • @Libanass

    @Libanass

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not necessarily if you’re just bringing it back exactly where it was

  • @b289gg
    @b289gg5 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always, Scott! By the way, that beautiful AV bass is made by luthier Aleš Vychodil here in Czech Republic. Damn, I'd love to get one AV bass myself. Not anytime soon though as I don't need another bass - I need to work on my playing. Also, I too prefer satin necks. Never felt right to play glossy, even though they look great.

  • @zmrolmen
    @zmrolmen2 жыл бұрын

    I always loosen strings before adjusting truss rod as advised by other guys here. Take into account total tension on 5 string bass when it's in tune can exceed 200kg, so it's worth it and it takes just 5 minutes more.

  • @phlopalopagus
    @phlopalopagus5 жыл бұрын

    Best way to lower your action is to keep using words like snatch to describe small measurements.

  • @j3tt436

    @j3tt436

    5 жыл бұрын

    Phlop Alopagus snadge*

  • @bt82

    @bt82

    4 жыл бұрын

    snatch is something entirely different!

  • @alexr7856
    @alexr78565 жыл бұрын

    oh my god you met verdine white?😭😭 your so lucky he’s my idol!!!

  • @hop2itgromit
    @hop2itgromit5 жыл бұрын

    I'm from Leeds! Accidentally found your channel and love it!

  • @xbman1
    @xbman14 жыл бұрын

    I removed the gloss on the back of the neck on my Gibson 61 reissue. Make in US. So smooth now. Love it.

  • @mark3ve
    @mark3ve5 жыл бұрын

    YAY! (For hatred of glossy necks @ 4:30)

  • @Emersonlakeorpalmer

    @Emersonlakeorpalmer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wait why do u hate it

  • @dskrpncs
    @dskrpncs4 жыл бұрын

    You didn't mention intonation...seems like there is much more to these adjustments than you mention

  • @rchrd3353

    @rchrd3353

    4 жыл бұрын

    intonation doesn't really adjust action though eh ? i mean sometimes you have to adjust it after you adjust action to keep your tuning.. but for video length sake i understand why he left it out since it's not really part of the action adjustment. but yeh he could have mentioned quick at the end to double check it afterwards

  • @vermilionrockbandofficial9397

    @vermilionrockbandofficial9397

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rchrd3353 the video said "Bass Setup". And intonation, pickup height, fret polishing, & many others are also part of how you set up a bass or a guitar in general. The title was pretty misleading since the vid ended up being only action adjustment instead of a real set up. My theory is that the bass seems to be of high quality so he didn't need to do the other stuff and only needed to adjust action via truss rod and bridge. But still, pretty misleading title for the most part.

  • @virgilreichert2105
    @virgilreichert21055 жыл бұрын

    Sprague is the company that makes the capacitor. Their orange drop series (comes in various values) is a polypropylene cap, which is one of the best for audio (often used in audio amps) for its low dissipation and stability.

  • @massivebeatzz
    @massivebeatzz5 жыл бұрын

    great humor !!! great editing... this is a TV episode by now!

  • @burtreynolds2969
    @burtreynolds29695 жыл бұрын

    Was Verdine actually playing his bass at that show? He has been known to mime and play along to canned bass tracks. Just curious.

  • @babayaga1767

    @babayaga1767

    5 жыл бұрын

    not surprised, can't imagine playing with that much tightness while dancing and singing

  • @bassheadjazz2708

    @bassheadjazz2708

    5 жыл бұрын

    Does look a little suspect in the video...theres no question he recorded the lines years ago but live...hmmm

  • @craigmckissick8840

    @craigmckissick8840

    5 жыл бұрын

    I saw him last year playing and it was live. Mind blowing!

  • @4848277
    @48482774 жыл бұрын

    No intonation adjustment? Usually when you adjust the truss rod and saddle height, you end up readjusting intonation too... :|

  • @whichoneisbetter8902

    @whichoneisbetter8902

    4 жыл бұрын

    that's true. it throws things out of whack.

  • @derekjones4253
    @derekjones42535 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Thank you Scott. All my best to you.

  • @steventhompson4539
    @steventhompson45395 жыл бұрын

    More Verdine please. Excellent vid, Scott, thanks!

  • @janneboman8573
    @janneboman85734 жыл бұрын

    Capo between the 1st fret and the nut. Push down on 17th fret. 0.3mm between the string and the 7th fret. After that about 2.1 to 2.5mm of space between the bottom of the string and the 12th fret, depending on your preference. That's how I roll.

  • @kwikwilamour9203
    @kwikwilamour92035 жыл бұрын

    Hey everybody! Don't forget to loosen the strings before you tighten that truss rod. Its probably OK if your loosening for more relief. When tightening though the little threads on the truss rod have to move all that wood and added the string tension you can strip out the nut. cheers:)

  • @samlelowitch

    @samlelowitch

    5 жыл бұрын

    Some sources claim it is better to keep the strings tuned to pitch when adjusting the truss rod. I don't know which advice is the sounder of the two.

  • @ameliejost1275

    @ameliejost1275

    5 жыл бұрын

    You actually shouldn't losen the strings before that.

  • @kwikwilamour9203

    @kwikwilamour9203

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Interesting, It seems I've lit a flame here. But what is the reasoning behind not slacking the strings. I always loosen then before raising the action or tightening the truss rod then I retune and measure.

  • @kwikwilamour9203

    @kwikwilamour9203

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same here. When adjusting the intonation to make the string longer I slacken but when shortening the string I don't bother. Also when I'm adding relief to the neck I don't bother as the added tension of the strings is just helping the neck to move. I also understand for practical reasons of not wasting time in the video Scott didn't bother when removing some relief in the neck to straighten it. I did cringe a smidge though. lol :)

  • @samlelowitch

    @samlelowitch

    5 жыл бұрын

    I honestly don’t know which approach is correct but I imagine that the school of thought saying to keep the strings tuned to pitch thinks there is something worthwhile in keeping tension on the neck as adjustments are made, perhaps because the strings will be under similar tension after the adjustment is complete.

  • @adart2496
    @adart24962 жыл бұрын

    This guy is so joyful!

  • @buckbumble
    @buckbumble2 жыл бұрын

    Such a helpful vid Scott. Thanks so much.

  • @jesuschrist6618
    @jesuschrist66185 жыл бұрын

    yay !

  • @beyondheavenandhell9890

    @beyondheavenandhell9890

    5 жыл бұрын

    EvGG Stan yey

  • @maxmaidment96

    @maxmaidment96

    5 жыл бұрын

    scouring pads ftw

  • @feng125
    @feng1255 жыл бұрын

    Could you do a collaboration with Dave Reaume from Dave's World of Fun Stuff channel? He's really thorough on bass setups, is a bass player himself. It would be really interesting.

  • @Jihadbearzwithgunz

    @Jihadbearzwithgunz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes penny black support here..

  • @emersonsrandomvideos248
    @emersonsrandomvideos2485 жыл бұрын

    Going back in time when funky bass with falcetto was a thing. Its great!

  • @vinsharrelson2246
    @vinsharrelson22465 жыл бұрын

    Teasing us with a little Verdine, eh? Seeing Mr. White with EWF then Jaco later on inspired me to take up playing the bass! Looking forward to the interview!

  • @DrKevGuitar
    @DrKevGuitar5 жыл бұрын

    Quick question re: neck relief. Did you mean business card, rather than credit card? Credit card is thick (0.75 mm), which would be a lot of relief. Business card is ~ 0.3 mm which is about the minimum recommended by most bass manufacturers.

  • @Libanass

    @Libanass

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kevin Kretsch Luthiers don’t recommend less than 0,25mm I set my basses at 0,15mm and they play like butter 😁😎

  • @UndecidedCinema705
    @UndecidedCinema7053 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes glossy necks make me feel like I'm not as poor🥺

  • @joethebar1
    @joethebar1 Жыл бұрын

    The criteria for a fretless are quite different and less forgiving. I bought a fender tony Franklin fretless precision off of a guy which was a few weeks old. He said he had it set up professionally; it had a bow in the neck like you wouldn’t believe. I lowballed him because there was significant risk that the neck wouldn’t release; it was an extreme situation. I brought it home and adjusted it flat, and it hasn’t moved in 6 years. An absolutely dialled in beast of a bass

  • @RobMods
    @RobMods5 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid. Good explanation. For older instruments I'd recommend (if possible) remove the truss rod nut altogether and put grease on the threads and the flat surface of the nut. As for Sprague caps, well these are used in valve amps because they have high voltage ratings. They are completely overkill for a guitar. But hey, if it gives your bass some mojo, go for it!

  • @yourdadsblackberry7997
    @yourdadsblackberry79975 жыл бұрын

    Scott did you get moollon bass back????

  • @thillwl

    @thillwl

    5 жыл бұрын

    He just announced in the SBL Academy yesterday that it was recovered and the police currently have it.

  • @dorjeslacker

    @dorjeslacker

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bully!!

  • @horowizard
    @horowizard5 жыл бұрын

    I believe you need to slack the strings before doing the Truss Rod or Bridge Saddle adjustment. Why use more torque than necessary?

  • @Billkwando

    @Billkwando

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nah, not worth the effort. Shops don't.

  • @polizovski
    @polizovski Жыл бұрын

    Great setup, beautiful dream sound.

  • @spacedaddy5517
    @spacedaddy5517 Жыл бұрын

    Dude I just gave my Warwick that raspy sounds, thanks you Scott's bass lessons. I got 2.5 mm action, I had 3.5mm before.

  • @haywood12
    @haywood125 жыл бұрын

    Heavy Casey neistadt vibes in this vid. Btw Smudge, smidge,

  • @Uncle_Sammo
    @Uncle_Sammo5 жыл бұрын

    Just FYI when he says “Mils” he means “mm” not the Standard Mil = 1/1000 inch 1 mm = 0.1 cm = 0.0394 in For viewers in Standard Measurement countries.

  • @tonekilltech

    @tonekilltech

    5 жыл бұрын

    Samuel Soyebo That was driving me bonkers. Like, 3 mil?! You wouldn’t even be able to see that gap.

  • @ericmorrell806

    @ericmorrell806

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tonekilltech you'd be surprised. I've done hundreds (probably a couple thousand by now) of setups, and average neck relief for most players is between 5 and 8 thousandths of an inch. Also, when fretted at the 3rd fret, the strings should clear fret one by 2 to 4 thousandths of an inch for proper nut slot depth. I don't even measure anymore because I can eyeball it within about a thousandth. It takes training, but you can definitely see measurements that small.

  • @rowlandstraylight

    @rowlandstraylight

    5 жыл бұрын

    Standard Measurement? That would be the customary units used by the one country that is steadfastly refusing metric/SI unlike the rest of the world. Only all US Customary Units are defined in terms of the metric standards, so its mostly extra maths for sake of enjoying your freedom units. You know, the ones used by the old empire...

  • @wearetomorrowspast.5617
    @wearetomorrowspast.56175 жыл бұрын

    That was a fun vid Scott. Enjoyed. I never use measurements to set up my bass. I get the neck pretty much straight and then adjust the bridge saddles to bring the strings down to where they buzz and then take the saddles back up to where they don't buzz. If my way of setting up my bass is stupid wrong please tell me, I'm not an expert. I just do what I do. The way I set up my bass gives me plenty of different sound options with how my fingers control the sound though. Maybe it is all in the fingers?

  • @chuckcarney2099
    @chuckcarney20994 жыл бұрын

    HATE Glossy Necks! I go satin, or I Go Sand Paper 💯🖤🤠 From a 40 year Bass Player/Singer/Songwriter that Sets up my Own Ax's since I got tired of paying for it in 1993 , I Really dig these Vids..keep it LOBRO!

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