How I learned DMR and how I am using the AnyTone 878 for preparedness - No Internet!

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In this video, I'll share with you my journey for learning DMR for short-range communication that offers more security than traditional analog radio. I'll cover the basics of DMR, how I plan to use it for local simplex communication (no Internet), my communications plan for DMR, and how to program the AnyTone D878 UV II Plus.
Note: I purchased the commercial version of the AnyTone D878. It works fine for amateur radio and is actually cheaper than the one marketed for amateur radio. Get this model if you are serious about the "prepper" or SHTF use case.
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* Anytone AT-D878UVII Digital DMR Dual-band Handheld Commercial Radio with GPS, APRS TX
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0:00 Introduction
0:50 Why DMR?
2:06 My plan for learning DMR?
5:45 My First DMR Radio
9:17 Where to get the programming software
9:57 What is a Codeplug?
12:43 Unlocking the keypad
14:01 Adding DMR IDs
15:31 Changing the boot image
16:10 How to program analog repeater
21:36 APRS Programming & Failed Implementation
22:28 What is the firmware?
23:24 DMR Definitions & Concepts
26:23 My plan for DMR
28:08 Analog Channels and Zones
31:00 DMR Use Cases and Scenarios
38:20 Digital Channels and Zones
42:41 Programming a Digital Channel
45:30 My Talk Groups
46:20 Recap
#thetechprepper #dmr #howto #anytone

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  • @xxicewolfxx4913
    @xxicewolfxx49137 ай бұрын

    This is the single best video on DMR I've seen so far. Even though you're new to it, the fact that you're taking us through this process with you has been incredibly helpful!

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful! I believe that sharing the experience while I am learning can be helpful to others at the same stage of learning DMR. Something as simple as "unlocking" the radio after an unboxing is something that more seasoned users have probably forgotten was an issue. More coming. Take care.

  • @stephenbrown2894

    @stephenbrown2894

    3 ай бұрын

    Very practical and useful. Thank you.

  • @WilliamcHigham

    @WilliamcHigham

    Ай бұрын

    How do I programme a dm tyt 398 dmr tire l and ll what do I do

  • @BridgeComSystemsInc
    @BridgeComSystemsInc5 ай бұрын

    Excellent video Gaston! Keep rolling! Also, very cool to learn you're a runner too! Awesome! Let's ROLL!

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    5 ай бұрын

    You guys really helped me answer a few specific questions to get start with some basics on DMR. I went straight to your channel to unlock the keypad. Thank you. Cheers to another runner. 73 de KT7RUN

  • @Swamp-Fox
    @Swamp-Fox7 ай бұрын

    I really like your non-traditional use case for DMR. Thanks for the deep dive!!

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    You're welcome. I'm glad that I took the time to seriously give DMR a look. I was put off as all the hams only highlighted the Internet-based based networking. I'll give LoRa and Meshtastic a look, too.

  • @vinniec5286

    @vinniec5286

    6 ай бұрын

    @@TheTechPrepper So glad you mentioned Meshtastic and LoRa as well. I am a ham but shy away from DMR and DSTAR (I do like PSK31 and JS8Call). I just started watching this series and if I understand what you are looking to accomplish (digital, simplex), then this will meet a need in my Comms plan. Nice to have new eyes on it!

  • @stephenlask2797
    @stephenlask27977 ай бұрын

    Truly appreciate how diligent you are and methodical. You always make it easy to learn from you. I have an 878 and have been challenged getting it set the way I want. Definitely appreciate your work as always!

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    I appreciate that! I'm not that bright, so I personally need lots of short term goals and milestones. Simple explanations are my goal. Let's make radio easier to understand and use. Cheers.

  • @timreasoner3744
    @timreasoner37447 ай бұрын

    Great video! Again! This one has helped me understand my 878UV II Plus and programming Keep up the great work

  • @aaronakiyama
    @aaronakiyama7 ай бұрын

    Slightly pedantic comment. What you described (splitting the 12.5kHz channel into two 6.25kHz sub-channels) is called FDMA or Frequency Division Multiple Access. It's used with NXDN and I believe P25 is also FDMA. TDMA as used in DMR alternates between Timeslot 1 and Timeslot 2 every 15 milliseconds using the full 12.5kHz bandwidth.

  • @jeffdo9195

    @jeffdo9195

    7 ай бұрын

    Actually called TDMA time division multiple access

  • @unsafe_dB_level
    @unsafe_dB_level8 ай бұрын

    It's great to see comms plan with as much emphasis on everyday needs (accessibility, ease of use, etc.) as many of us put on more serious but comparatively rare occasions where the need for security necessitates some level of user training and practice.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    8 ай бұрын

    I have always found it odd that the prepper community (in general) always looks at preparedness in terms of only the worst case scenario. These are tools that have applications for every day needs, the occasional bad storm, and for when stuff goes sideways (short and long term).

  • @Blue-Collar-Radio
    @Blue-Collar-Radio6 ай бұрын

    Im glad to see you have a DMR video lol. Ive had an Anytone sitting in the box for too long! I think ill get it up and running now.

  • @kc8owl
    @kc8owl8 ай бұрын

    Very very comprehensive walkthrough, thank you for the work in this video. What you called out as context is very key - what is the comms opportunity you are solving for. To effectively program a radio or radios one needs to have a plan, be it to simply talk on a local repeater or to build a comms network to address several different needs. Outstanding video to pull it all together!

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Mike. Everyone's needs are different, so I am a firm believer in understanding your needs and translating those needs into an actual implementation.

  • @k5wxp22
    @k5wxp223 ай бұрын

    Your videos are amazingly informative! Great help for a visual learner like me. Thank you, and please keep the videos coming!

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    3 ай бұрын

    You're welcome. I learn this way too along with experimentation. More coming.

  • @bendeleted9155
    @bendeleted91555 ай бұрын

    Thank you. I probably would have not wanted DMR based on what I have heard, but now I think this is perfect for my needs. Just a pita to set up initially, but doable.

  • @earleconklin9391
    @earleconklin93912 ай бұрын

    So Helpful! I'm new to Arizona and DMR and decided to pick up the challenge of learning DMR. I picked up a fully programmed 878 from the Bridgecom guys and have been watching their video series when I spotted your video on YT. What an an amazing technology. I've enjoyed and appreciate your other videos as well. Thanks!

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    2 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear it! Cheers to another local. If you look me up on QRZ, I'll send you a link the spreadsheet.

  • @Sean-AI7EQ
    @Sean-AI7EQ7 ай бұрын

    This was an amazing video! Great information and it's making me get back into DMR. I like your thorough overview of how you group channels in the radio. I have an older Anytone D868 but most of the DMR features are pretty much the same. 73

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful! Happy programming.

  • @andrew8940
    @andrew89407 ай бұрын

    Love it man. I enjoyed this

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    I'm glad you enjoyed it. These videos are rarely this long. Take it easy.

  • @KQ4GDM
    @KQ4GDM7 ай бұрын

    I remember my first couple weeks learning DMR the hard way. Several helpful nuggets of info here. DMR is a bit complicated but makes mastering it more satisfying.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    There's not substitution for hardware. I guess it's a rite of passage.

  • @gunny2444
    @gunny24448 ай бұрын

    Thanks… lots to take in but definitely have a better idea and direction!!! Thanks for the great work.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    8 ай бұрын

    You're welcome. I am sure that I am not doing everything the way the DMR ninjas would like, but at least it is a starting point with a plan. Take it slowly. Cheers.

  • @skydivingcomrade1648
    @skydivingcomrade16487 ай бұрын

    Just got mine last week. Thank you

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Congrats. This radio is packed with features. Enjoy and happy programming.

  • @rpestess
    @rpestess8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for reminding me why I sold my 878! Programming was just to much trouble. Stayed with my Yaesu and Wouxon. Great video though and enjoyed learning more about the possibilities. Keep up the awesome work.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    8 ай бұрын

    I've only looked at 10% of the menu options. This appears to be a standard across vendors once you move into DMR. Motorola's CPS takes some getting used to as well.

  • @bradl2636
    @bradl26365 ай бұрын

    This video is a gem. So many YTs don't give enough context and philosophy of use in their videos. To say, the what, where, how and WHY. Have you done a video on process and costs to get business license frequencies? Any issues with the radio software for MacOS?

  • @canadianprepperpodcast
    @canadianprepperpodcast7 ай бұрын

    Great video! You have a great channel going here!

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear it. It felt like a marathon recording, so your comment is encouraging. Thank you. More on the way.

  • @ke8mattj
    @ke8mattj8 ай бұрын

    Great job as always, Gaston!

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    8 ай бұрын

    I hope you found it useful. It was nice being able to share my early work on DMR with you and the community.

  • @ke8mattj

    @ke8mattj

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheTechPrepperYour work is helping a lot. I may not be able to go fully into what you've shown so far, but I'm researching workarounds for my price range and use cases thanks to your videos. This is definitely the direction I am wanting to transition the family and neighbor comms towards. Especially with the way things are going. I don't think GMRS is going to suffice soon. We already know things are not going as good as things are being let on.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    8 ай бұрын

    @@ke8mattj The AnyTone that I have linked is ~$200 USD, but I believe that there are sub $100 USD DMR radios companies like Radioddity. I have no experience with it, but I've heard good things about their RADIODDITY GD-77.

  • @ke8mattj

    @ke8mattj

    8 ай бұрын

    @@TheTechPrepper One of the things I'm researching for is one that can recharge via USB. This is one of my uncompromising conditions. I can compromise on, despite its inefficiencies, is if the HT can recharge via up-conversion from the 5v USB to 12v barrel connection, but it does not look like there is an HT for that except for the Baofeng DMR radio. It seems the HT community is still so stuck on using cradle chargers and wall-warts. Even Yaesu is guilty of this with the FT-*D series. It took a ham (W0AEZ) creating a custom battery for this series for us to finally get a battery that is directly rechargeable via USB without using up-conversion. The GD-77 was on my radar a long time ago, but I didn't grab it and it's now sold out. Don't know why Radioddity is no longer producing it. That's my mistake for not nabbing any. I wonder if it has anything to do with the ham community creating a custom firmware for it: OpenGD77? I'll be researching more or ask your community when I get back from my trip soon. Too much relaxing at the moment to deeply look into it and having the long trip back tomorrow.

  • @kg4gav

    @kg4gav

    7 ай бұрын

    I appreciate what you are doing here, my desire has been to set up similar comms blending Amateur, business, GMRS and MURS, Analog, digital and encryption depending on the use case. so this helps a LOT. I know you are considering selling the Anytone radios, as they don't do the networking/data side of what you can do with the /\/\otorola gear, among other reason. I Like Motorola gear, but I don't like the hassle of the used market, not knowing if you are really getting what you think you are, CPS compatibilities, specialized cables, etc. For that reason, I'd really like it if you would keep going with the Anyone videos, as those radios are readily available, cost effective and have a lot of online support (like the Bridgecom videos). The availability of inexpensive accessories like antennas and speaker mics, spare batteries, chargers, etc is also helpful when you need to buy multiple radios and kit them out affordably. So for the greater good of the community, I'd like you to continue with the Anytone, at least so we can see where the limitations are, and what can be gained by using the Motorola or other radios.

  • @samesame620
    @samesame6207 ай бұрын

    878 has been working well for me once I found a nice working code plug for my locations! Then its about fine tuning local repeaters / TGs / Zones / contacts.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing

  • @blankreganon5395
    @blankreganon53957 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your ideas. My wife and I are doing some of these ideas but with 900 MHz ISM. We are running encryption on DMR.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Very nice. Are there any suggestions or ideas that I missed?

  • @paulbarrett9298
    @paulbarrett92985 ай бұрын

    Great video thanks. I'm looking at similar scenarios to you. So much to learn with DMR. Have you considered if you need to use a same frequency repeater on dmr? Cheers Paul

  • @digitalanaloguehamradio
    @digitalanaloguehamradio7 ай бұрын

    Great video, I’m just watching it now. Have you tried The range feature which shows the distance to another like radio. You can also check if the other radio is switched on. you can also make another radio alert go off. all this can be done in simplex mode with no Internet of course

  • @jeffdo9195
    @jeffdo91957 ай бұрын

    Nice talking to you on the air this morning 12/6/23 have fun with the Anytones. Jeff W0NWA

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Likewise, Jeff. Here's the new video I dropped for the members this morning. It's shorter and should be more fun compared this very long video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKqMzLmiZruumNY.html

  • @tprice2012
    @tprice20127 ай бұрын

    This is fantastic, I have a few 878's and the way you've organized around talkgroups is superb, I've been struggling with just 2-way DMR simplex and you've solved my problems!

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you for taking the time to comment. I was debating whether or not to release this marathon of a video as I am very new to DMR, but I released it anyhow as I figured some people would appreciate the approach that I used to solve my communications goals.

  • @tjs2909
    @tjs29097 ай бұрын

    Thanks Gaston! Great video! Do you have any plans on doing a video on how you got your commercial license?

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    It's in the backlog. I'm not sure when it will be slotted in.

  • @christopherbarry738
    @christopherbarry7384 ай бұрын

    Thank you! This video was a big help. I think I'm going to add the 878 to my wishlist. Question: What is the markdown editor you are using for your lists? I really like the layout.

  • @MichaelBurko
    @MichaelBurko5 ай бұрын

    @TheTechPrepper. Great video Gaston!! Are there any downsides to getting the commercial version of the Anytone AT-D878UVII Plus? The only difference I notice in the product description is the absence of Bluetooth in the commercial version. Additionally, some people on Reddit claim that some of the features cannot be controlled directly from the radio itself.

  • @rudyschwab7709
    @rudyschwab77097 ай бұрын

    I'm glad you started this series. Just prior to it, I was starting to look into DMR for the same reasons you have taken an interest in it. I only got as far as creating a short list of portables I liked based on my selection criteria. I think you have me sold on the Anytone. Any chance the series will get to the selection of a radio for base operation?

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    The next video will touch on the base station that I am using for both the home and vehicle. Glad to see that you're exploring DMR for similar reasons.

  • @antoinep.7420
    @antoinep.74207 ай бұрын

    As usual, very interesting video, with plenty of details and precise explanations. Thanks Tech Prepper. I have 2 anytones for a few month and a couple of hytera PD665. They work well together in both clear and encrypted DMR. But sms on the anytones are only CLEAR. It's sad but true. Hope anytone will implement this soon. They seem pretty active on releasing new firmwares. On the last one (3.02) they added ARC4 encryption.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the details. I plan to look at the Hyteras. They're better built and much more affordable than the MotoTRBO line. Do you know if the PD666 supports over-the-air IP networking? I'm doing some interesting things on the IP networking side with the MOTOTRBO radios.

  • @antoinep.7420

    @antoinep.7420

    7 ай бұрын

    @@TheTechPrepper Yes, they are much more affordable than the Motorola ones, and does the job pretty well. The CPS is well made and easy to get used of, especially if you have DMR knowledge. There are some IP Networking settings : "radio to PC network", "radio to radio network" and "radio services". But its not very clear to me how to use it. I'm still stuck with that. It just configured the telemetry ports from "Radio Services" : you press one button on a radio, it sends an sms to the other one which puts 5v to a pin on the side connector and light up a LED. About repeaters, I don't know how many you've tested, but If one day you have time and money, Hytera Epack-100 is really awesome. I use it for my job, love it! But it's to expensive for my personnal wallet ! so I set up a Surecom SR628 in a small pelicase ; D878 UVII+ are perfect in analog, in DMR they tend to activate the repeater for 2" only, and PD665 are perfect for both analog and DMR with this cheap solution. 😉

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    @@antoinep.7420 Thanks for the confirmation on the IP capabilities. I'll definitely give the Hytera's a look next year.

  • @yamez69
    @yamez694 ай бұрын

    I have the Baofeng DR-1801 UV DMR Walkie Talkie/HT. Mainly to have 32 bit en*rypti@n to avoid casual voice eavesdropping. Ability to do messaging and radio call/check is great too. DMR simplex in Australia can also does VHF, unlike CB UHF analog. Does VHF/UHF analog too, but has limited ability at scanning. Not waterproof.

  • @fbswampfox
    @fbswampfox7 ай бұрын

    This is an interesting aspect of radio. It seems great for a group of people to have encrypted comms. If you fly solo like me you wouldn’t really need it. Still interesting, though. If there were more DMR repeaters and Icom or Yaesu standardized their digital to be DMR I might take it on. A Ham can dream…

  • @enigma6482
    @enigma64825 ай бұрын

    So I'm still learning about DMR. If you want to talk on a digital channel using a local repeator, does it always route the transmission through the internet or can you transmit from a digital radio to a local repeator and then back to another digital radio?

  • @Eric10179
    @Eric101798 ай бұрын

    Awesome video Gaston! I would also like to get some MOTOTRBO radios but the steep price tag plus rarity of the VHF models on the used market makes me consider an 878 to start with as I ease into DMR. The only thing I still don’t understand about DMR is talkgroups. What are they really and what are their use cases? Haven’t heard a good explanation of what they are and why someone would want to use one

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    8 ай бұрын

    They are just contacts. They can either be between you and someone else (a private call) or you and a group of people (a group call). Both a "private call" and "group call" are identified by a DMR ID. My wife and myself are examples of Private Call Talk Groups. If I only want to talk to the medical team, that would be an example of Group Call Talk Group.

  • @xNsKxVAPOR
    @xNsKxVAPOR2 ай бұрын

    Do you have any videos on SFR and its applications? You mentioned it here briefly and I would like to learn more. If it’s feasible to improve range in tactical operations without lugging a manpack. Also sorry I keep commenting on videos asking questions I’m a newbie 😂

  • @blankreganon5395
    @blankreganon53957 ай бұрын

    Great video. I am in the middle of watching it, but I did find one item that I want to address. With MURS, the first three 151 MHz frequencies are narrow band and the two 154 MHz frequencies are wide band. (If I remember correctly.) You have them programmed the opposite way.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for catching this. I'll double check.

  • @mroe34
    @mroe347 ай бұрын

    Any reason you do not create scan groups on the Anytones? I create a scan group for each of my zones that includes all of the channels in that zone. Just wondering.

  • @WH6FQE
    @WH6FQE4 ай бұрын

    Im trying to figure out which business license type I need to get and how to go about applying for that so I can use encryption on my Anytone radios. I want to get it all set up now so I can get used to it before the end of the year and everything goes to hell in a handbasket.

  • @gary6212
    @gary62126 ай бұрын

    Isn't TDMA (TIME DIVISION multiple access) simplying using the entire bandwidth but creating two sequential timeslots, basically using the entire bandwidth for both timeslots and swtiching back and forth quickly, and not dividing the 12.5 bandwidth to 6.25. @24:24 I'm pretty sure they cover that in the HAM Tech license test. What you are describing is FREQUENCY DIVISION multiplexing (FDM) - you know, same stuff as in wired networks.

  • @cliffordchapman5738
    @cliffordchapman57384 ай бұрын

    This is a good video. Why didn't you get a DMR ID? doesn't it require a DMR ID to be entered into the radio?

  • @huypham7703
    @huypham77034 ай бұрын

    hi, great video, but you did mention in the video that there was no need to register any ID to activate the radio, can you be a more guidance on this? As in my country, DMR does not seem to be pppular, but for the same reason of privacy, I dont want other people can listen to my network of friends using radio. I also have no idea how to register for Callsign here in Vietnam Great video again Thanks

  • @bigheadmarkie
    @bigheadmarkie5 ай бұрын

    @thetechprepper how do you like the anytone radio so far?

  • @ktsecord
    @ktsecord7 ай бұрын

    The section, "DMR Use Cases and Scenarios" could be a separate episode.

  • @_Mordion_
    @_Mordion_4 ай бұрын

    I work in cybersecurity.. and this still looks so overly complicated lol! I think DMR is where I need to be due to the same reasons you went that route, but man.. I'm not looking forward to it at all. Quick question though. I've read that the BTECH DMR-6X2 is the exact same thing as the Anytone 878 and that the firmwares are even interchangeable. Do you know anything about that? I'm mainly asking due to the price tag as you can imagine.

  • @bulltivation7846
    @bulltivation78463 ай бұрын

    I would like to know if two of these can communicate between each other through digital signal on their own without connecting to repeaters and other devices? I mean like if i just put two analogue radios at the same channel and they can communicate completely independent

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes. That's exactly how I am running these. Radio to radio.

  • @LB6QJ
    @LB6QJ7 ай бұрын

    11:00 All right I can understand what you're saying about Coldplug I have a little bit different view on that, let me explain why. 1. if you are a amateur and starting on DMR it's very wise to use the same cold plug that the local community around you is using that is because it's much more easier to get support from your local amateurs when you need help. 2. it is wise to start using someone else's code plug until you're comfortable using DMR radio because someone else's has built to Coldplug for the radio that you are using, it's not easy just building up a code plug when you don't understand the concept of the DMR radio, when you're comfortable using someone else's DMR code plug and have a logical understanding of how a code plug is working then you can start building your own Coldplay I've been using DMR radio for almost a year and I'm still not comfortable writing my own code plug to 100% working

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    These are good points. Let me clarify, the problem that I really see is when I have people outside of my state ask for my Codeplug as other than a few nationwide channels, none of my settings are appropriate for them. Also,I'm a firm believer in tailoring the radios settings to one's particular operating needs. I see this as constant issue. As you can see from this video, my Codeplug is highly customized around my personal communications objectives.

  • @LB6QJ

    @LB6QJ

    7 ай бұрын

    @@TheTechPrepper You r also very much correct.

  • @javablade7247
    @javablade72476 ай бұрын

    I use mine for GMRS and DMR. I do have to change antennas

  • @ccerwin
    @ccerwin2 ай бұрын

    What do you think of the new firmware for the anytone upgrade to secure the encryption and are you using meshtastic yet ?

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm still waiting for an audit to be published by a third-party.

  • @chris12x1
    @chris12x13 ай бұрын

    my question is do i need a ham license or business for this? if so how can I go about business?

  • @cxsey8587
    @cxsey85872 ай бұрын

    If you’re using Linux, could you not run the CPS using WINE?

  • @redinator9896
    @redinator98966 ай бұрын

    Aw man. It would be awesome to see how you do it on a Linux with Wine. And get the USB driver going...

  • @racerveza4904
    @racerveza49047 ай бұрын

    Thanks, Gaston. I've been enjoying your recent DMR content. In the case of family/neighborhood communications, something like the Retevis RT43 is an interesting option. It's cheap and simple - no screen or front panel. You can just hand it to someone and say "make sure you keep the channel dial set to 7". It's DMR and analog-capable, and can TX on 400-480MHz.

  • @racerveza4904

    @racerveza4904

    7 ай бұрын

    One more thing - I know you've already moved on to your Motorolas, but I think the AT878 might grow on you if you spend more time with it. As a fellow tinkerer, I love how configurable the soft keys are. That's an area where I wish Yaesu would pay more attention. And channel zones, of course!

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    The 878 is certainly feature packed. I may hang on to it for a while and may consider some firmware hacking next year. For me, the problem is the lack of a ruggedized case and a poor ingress protection rating. I'm brutal with my gear in the backcountry. I covered 6 miles today, and the 878 was covered in salt and sweat. Time will tell...

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the pointer. I'm new to DMR, so I'll check out the RT43. Retvis offered to send it to me sometime back, but I declined as I was not ready for DMR.

  • @racerveza4904

    @racerveza4904

    7 ай бұрын

    @@TheTechPrepper Right on. I run with my 878 in a Salomon hydration vest. I'm careful to turn the front panel away from my body so that sweat doesn't get in through the buttons or the speaker. So far it has held up fine. Please keep beating yours up so that I know how much I can beat on mine!

  • @cliffordchapman5738
    @cliffordchapman57384 ай бұрын

    You don't need the software to unlock it. There is a maintenance menu you can get into when you start the radio

  • @domingocordero6584
    @domingocordero65844 ай бұрын

    Hi, How can I apply for a FCC Business License?

  • @davidbrass2562
    @davidbrass25624 ай бұрын

    I have actually found two things about the 878 that disappoint me: the battery latch is weak, I can take the battery and move it in and out ever so slightly which is a concern as to whether the battery is really secure and whether or not the contact seal is really working. The other issue I found is it doesn't take much audio to clip this radio's receive on analog, unfortunately that makes this radio a no go for me. If the analog receive is that sensitive it's no good. I have tried tons of different radios and I can't believe the poor quality being put out for the higher priced "ham" radios. Icom seems to have the best QC. My Yaesu ft-5 cracked by the ptt in a short period of time and it will be a very long time before I buy another one of their products. I can write paragraphs of the issues with radios marketed for the ham market. I am waiting on a TYT MD-390 after discovering issues with the CS-750 not allowing audio through when someone is talking.

  • @jayzee1968
    @jayzee19687 ай бұрын

    Just curious why DMR and not Yaesu’s cf4..? Thanks for your videos btw.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    I discovered a very powerful over-the-air networking feature in the Motorola commercial DMR radios that blow traditional analog packet radio out of the water. More coming on this topic later.

  • @tomperone9338
    @tomperone93387 ай бұрын

    The Anytone is a nice radio overall. I have the older AT-D878UV version, and I don't see that the newer version has really 'improved' enough to warrant my attention. The APRS implementation is poor on both radios. I was able to cobble together a rudimentary brute force tracker with the older one, but it was essentially useless for anything else. And while the APRS receive capability on the newer model would be nice to have, it’s still missing a lot of functionality there. I also would’ve liked to have seen them expand the size of zones and scan lists as well, and maybe allow channels to appear in multiple scan lists (these are my common complaints with many, if not most, DMR radios). The software is pretty good, and like you, I’m a firm believer in rolling your own code plug, versus using someone else’s.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    I think that you made the right call sticking with your original 878. In my humble opinion, the APRS experience needs to be overhauled with the operator in mind. Glad to hear that you also roll your codeplugs. Thanks for the comment and view.

  • @javablade7247

    @javablade7247

    6 ай бұрын

    Same here but I really am glad they keep the improvements going

  • @theamericansilverback
    @theamericansilverback8 ай бұрын

    VERY informational!!!!! This is why I'm looking to get DMR capable! I don't want the internet involved. A question , with a 578 in cross repeat, would an encrypted repeater be possible in shtf times? Thanks again for the content

  • @theamericansilverback

    @theamericansilverback

    8 ай бұрын

    additionally, you stated that you'd recommend the 878 plus over the anytone at-d878uvii plus... Why is that? I'm getting ready to purchase and am trying to gain understanding on this. I am looking them up to compare functionality as we speak.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    8 ай бұрын

    I am still very new to DMR and still exploring the "build your own repeater" side of the equation. This group will be the first to know once I solve this problem. It will be covered in a future video where I will discuss my experience trying to deploy a Single Frequency Repeater (SFR) that can be used with these HT's.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    8 ай бұрын

    There are two version of the AnyTone D878 UV II. I am using the commercial version (link in the description) instead of the amateur radio version. 1. It is a lot cheaper (almost $100 USD less) for some unknown reason. 2. It is fully unlocked and can transmit on all frequencies on the two bands that it supports without any type of modification (hardware or software). The commercial version will work on the amateur radio, FRS, GMRS, MURS, etc.

  • @BobBob-il2ku

    @BobBob-il2ku

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes encryption is possible cross band repeat with the 578

  • @theamericansilverback

    @theamericansilverback

    8 ай бұрын

    great! I knew I could not see a difference except pricing and was confused as DRM is a new animal for me as well @@TheTechPrepper

  • @twr4641
    @twr46417 ай бұрын

    I am surprised to see that you recommend a 25kHz bandwidth for ham/repeater operations. I am from the EU so it may be different in the US, yet our channel setup is 12.5 kHz, and we use narrow FM as it is fully capable of transmitting voice frequency range. Using 25 kHz would interfere with neighboring channels. Can you maybe elaborate why 25 kHz is beneficial for you? Thx and 73

  • @aaronakiyama

    @aaronakiyama

    7 ай бұрын

    25kHz is the standard for analog ham radio here in the states

  • @BobBob-il2ku
    @BobBob-il2ku8 ай бұрын

    I’ve read there is a delay on the anytone 878 when using aes-256 did you find this to be true? Like you have to key up then wait a second to talk

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes, that has been my experience. At some point, I need to dive into the technical reason behind this.

  • @BobBob-il2ku

    @BobBob-il2ku

    8 ай бұрын

    @@TheTechPrepperis it just annoying or deal killer?

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    8 ай бұрын

    @@BobBob-il2ku It's too early to tell. I am still on the fence about selling the 878.

  • @brianhoward1245

    @brianhoward1245

    7 ай бұрын

    This is gonna be the case on any encrypted channel, even with expensive military equipment and applications. When talking in the green on a military radio you will get a “rush-beep” after keying the mic before you can start talking.

  • @Nunyazaqwsx.
    @Nunyazaqwsx.7 ай бұрын

    I have three 878s and can only seem to get the “common” encryption to work. The AES256 isn’t working on either of the three. Also note, line 16 and 17 in the channel set menu. I can’t figure out Encryption Type differences. 1 is normal and 2 is enhanced. All I know is that if both radios aren’t on the same “normal” or “enhanced” they won’t work together

  • @Nunyazaqwsx.

    @Nunyazaqwsx.

    7 ай бұрын

    Also, in the CPS, in the other settings tab, you can choose AES, Common or ARC4 (for newer version). “Normal and Enhanced” is no longer a menu option when AES is chosen. So idk. Lol. Anytone really ought to get it together in that area. (Also, why is normal or enhanced only programmable on the face of the radio and no where in the CPS!!) I’m downloading dsd plus for my SDR dongle and I’m going to really see what the heck Anytone is transmitting. I hope to learn the dif between Normal and Enhanced when in “Common” mode. AND to see why neither of the three radios are working together with AES.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    I did the same thing and installed DSD for use with my RTL-SDR. The CPS is unnecessarily complex. It looks like an Engineer designed. Poor user interfaces drive my nuts.

  • @antoinep.7420

    @antoinep.7420

    7 ай бұрын

    Have you checked the firmware versions of your 3 radios ? If you bought them separately, they might have different versions. I know some encryption bugs have been solved through newer firmware version. 73

  • @ericd5363
    @ericd53637 ай бұрын

    Have you researched LORA vs DMR? Its secure, and long range.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    LoRa is on the list for next year.

  • @goosecouple
    @goosecouple7 ай бұрын

    27:01 You will hand DMRs out to your neighbors ?

  • @cmh31909
    @cmh319097 ай бұрын

    I am curious about something; since all of the radios you have support encryption, why even bother with unencrypted channels, why not just have them all encrypted all the time. You control the radios since you pass them out to friends and family, so there should be no compatibility problems. What am I missing, what is the disadvantage to having them always encyrpted?

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    You sacrifice potential interoperability with other radios. My AnyTones and Motorola can do encrypted voice, but not text message. Also, I have analog radios in my fleet. Personally, I need the flexibility of three application specific zones for my frequencies: analog (ATTP), digital unencrypted (DTTP), and digital encrypted (DSTTP). Also, I interact with other groups and don't necessarily want to share my keys. It's good to have operating options.

  • @cliffordchapman5738
    @cliffordchapman57384 ай бұрын

    Most of the DMR radios are opened up without mods. You don't have to only use anytones

  • @goosecouple
    @goosecouple7 ай бұрын

    The GPS in the 878 will give your position away. Right ?

  • @bigheadmarkie

    @bigheadmarkie

    5 ай бұрын

    I also am wondering if you can disable GPS?

  • @Pops_607
    @Pops_6073 ай бұрын

    So do you trust this radio in any weather ?

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    3 ай бұрын

    I do not trust this radio unless the sun is out.

  • @Pops_607

    @Pops_607

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TheTechPrepper Would you trust the alliance HD1/2?

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Pops_607I briefly owned the HD1 a couple years ago. In terms of pure case construction, I trust it more.

  • @topnotchit
    @topnotchit7 ай бұрын

    Does anytone support 6m/2m/1.25m/70cm?

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    My AnyTone models support only 2m and 70cm. I am big fan of the quad banders. My Yaesu FT-8900 supports those, but it is analog only. 6m and 220MHz are great bands for opsec. Cheers.

  • @topnotchit

    @topnotchit

    7 ай бұрын

    @@TheTechPrepper ah OK. AT options opens up the 868 to 1.25m to make it tri band. Just not quad. That is valuable addirion

  • @dbaum3
    @dbaum37 ай бұрын

    So you can't use DMR with just a ham license?

  • @michaelditurno4372

    @michaelditurno4372

    7 ай бұрын

    you can - DMR is completely legal in the ham bands by properly licensed hams. DMR was, however, initially designed for use in the Land Mobile Radio space, and was adopted by amateur radio once the FCC approved its use for ham also. Gaston is also using DMR on a set of commercial frequencies he obtained as part of his business model.

  • @dbaum3

    @dbaum3

    7 ай бұрын

    @@michaelditurno4372 ah ok, so that being said, would this allow for 100% private comms still? Thank you.

  • @kg4gav

    @kg4gav

    7 ай бұрын

    @@dbaum3 No, for it to be private/encrypted, you cannot do that on Ham freqs. Note: this is by FCC rule restrictions on the ham bands, not by equipment limitations.

  • @chublez

    @chublez

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@dbaum3 To be clear DMR is not encryption. Many if not most DMR radios can be encrypted but this is not allowed on the HAM bands in any mode, DMR, Analog, doesn't matter all HAM traffic must be in the clear.

  • @dbaum3

    @dbaum3

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you@@chublez. I'm still a noob. This is really interesting.

  • @caulkins69
    @caulkins697 ай бұрын

    I don't understand why digital radio has to be so complicated. It's extremely simple (from the user's point of view) when placing a call on a cell phone. Why can't someone design a radio that works essentially like a cell phone, but handset-to-handset, rather than handset-to-tower?

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    This is why I held off using DMR for two years. It is unnecessarily complex. My wife actually used DMR with me today while I was on a trail run. She operated the radio just fine today and she knows nothing about radio. The trick was giving her a preprogrammed radio and locking her out of most of the features. The programming is not for normal people.

  • @galax574

    @galax574

    7 ай бұрын

    Don't project your feelings on FM into DMR, FM should have been faded out for no reason

  • @steher
    @steher6 ай бұрын

    It's sad that you have to make multiple disclaimers.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    6 ай бұрын

    It's out right annoying. And, I still get the occasional hate mail and comment. Sigh...

  • @himesjon
    @himesjon24 күн бұрын

    This radio is V/U and not HF so a MARS Mod would not apply.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    24 күн бұрын

    Not true. Navy MARS does use VHF/UHF as part of their training.

  • @Paul-sk2pc
    @Paul-sk2pc4 ай бұрын

    😂 switching to DMR with encryption will piss off those basement dwellers who can no longer entertain from your conversation.😅

  • @ac0m-glennthompson432
    @ac0m-glennthompson4327 ай бұрын

    Sorry, your long videos are nothing compared to other KZreadrs, like HRCC as one example. Keep up the good work!

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Good point. Thank you. I'll return to my normal 15-20 minute format.

  • @LarsLarsen77
    @LarsLarsen777 ай бұрын

    You'd be better off getting a 5g node and then operating that on public use frequencies designated for that (used by private 5g systems like at hospitals) instead of getting a commercial license. It has the benefit that everyone already has a 5g phone in their pocket, so all you have to do is add their SIM card info to your 5g node.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    It does not have the range. I've been covering upwards of 6 miles on UHF in my terrain on 4-5 watts. 5G does NOT have that kind of range without cell towers.

  • @peterg.2081
    @peterg.20817 ай бұрын

    My question is why do you want your Communications to be encrypted that doesn't make much sense a big part of ham radio for people who aren't even hams is listening in this is why I stay where it's at high frequency all you other hams can play with these junk Chinese anytone radios it's a waste of money and a waste of time have fun

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    For the record, I'm not a fan of Chinese radios for many reasons.I prefer Japanese radios, specifically the older vintage of radio from Yaesu. You appear to be one of the salty hams that I encounter frequently on HF. My application for encryption is not for amateur radio. It's for commercial use This AnyTone is not for me; I will stick with the DMR MotoTRBO radios.

  • @TheTechPrepper

    @TheTechPrepper

    7 ай бұрын

    Lastly, I'm a realist. That's why I want encryption. I got a similar crap while I was a corporate consultant and carried bleach wipes and hand sanitizer while traveling. I also routinely kept antibiotics. These came in handy during COVID. It will be used as a tool when needed. Someday, secure communication capabilities will be needed. The time to train and plan is now.

  • @peterg.2081

    @peterg.2081

    7 ай бұрын

    Why don't you just go ask your local ham who's in his eighties what he would do he's already had this all figured out without the internet. Lastly what are you prepping for the zombie apocalypse everybody who needs to have this figured out has already got it done

  • @timeinthefield

    @timeinthefield

    7 ай бұрын

    @@peterg.2081I think you’re in the wrong place if you don’t know why we’d want to encrypt our traffic at times.

  • @peterg.2081

    @peterg.2081

    7 ай бұрын

    @timeinthefield emergency communications already been figured out this is just regurgitated crap like stuffing 5 lb of crap in a 2lb bag all you Doomsday Preppers should be prepping on how to grow food and leave the communications to the professionals

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