Your point on when a client comments on something related to edit is a great point.

A tutorial on the Olympus workspace would be great,thanks love your videos

@ForsgardPeter

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I have been asked that a lot. I have not had time to make one yet.

Yes, a tutorial on Workspace editing would be fantastic. I used to use Lightroom, and it did produce great results. But I had a break from photography, and cut my costs, and cancelled my Adobe subscription. I only want to use Workspace, if that's possible for Raw photo editing. Thanks for the video Peter. I'm getting back into photography, and it's a slow process.

Thank you Peter; I've always enjoyed your videos and seeing your images. This behind the scenes look at your post processing work flow was very helpful and insightful. You are a wonderful teacher and I appreciate your photography tips and guidance. Keep up the great work.

@ForsgardPeter

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Many thanks! I am glad this video helpful.

Methodology plus talent to aid identifying the route to be taken. Great.

Peter - A very helpful summary of your ideas about editing which I found it easy to relate to because i use Lightroom classic too as i find it very user friendly .I also have imbedded NIX plugins in the programme which I find a good alternative to experiment with to add value and expand the possibilities . I have also installed OM Workspace but I dont use it so much. A video on this could be very helpful / welcome

If the photo looks like what I actually saw, I am happy :-) I like a natural look rather than a very obviously touched up approach. Usually my editing is minimal as a result, just cropping, brightness, contrast and perhaps a tiny adjustment to saturation. Having said that, a tutorial on Olympus Workspace would be fabulous !

Using your tips, I just took and edited my new favorite photo of all time. Thank you!

@ForsgardPeter

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Glad the tips were helpful.

Thank you Peter for sharing your workflow. I usually import Raw in Lightroom and correct crop, exposure, contrast and white balance. Then I possibly add vibrance, vignetting, a very slight denoise. Only in some cases i work locally on faces or other details. Sometimes i apply my filter presets in b/n or vintage. 😊

@ForsgardPeter

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Thanks for sharing your workflow. It is always interesting to hear how other photographer edit their images.

Lesson Learned ❤

Thank you Petet. Very Good

@ForsgardPeter

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Glad you enjoyed it.

Peter I couldn't agree with you more every photograph needs editing to make the image look like it did when I took the photograph. I use Photoscape X Pro for editing . I have used GIMP and Darktable but I prefer Photoscape for editing my pictures

Good explanation about the difference between saturation and vibrance slider function in Lightroom 👍

@ForsgardPeter

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Thanks.

Good tips in here, man that automask feature is something lightroom has that DxO doesn't yet that I would really like. My workflow style is more minimal but I might incorporate some tips here. Cropping first is a must, but I like to scroll through color renderings afterwards and I use that as my primary color adjustments. Afterwards then I do lighting adjustments and local before applying de-noising and exporting. I only whitebalance if the color rendering adjustments make something too cold/warm. This flow is of course just my personal preference because it keeps the original character of he photo and allows me to take advantage of fuji color renders on all my cameras which I'm rather fond of since they have good render options.

@ForsgardPeter

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Thanks for sharing your workflow. The mask tool is very good in Lightroom. It was just introduced and it has already become a lot better than it was at the launch.

Peter, thank you for this video, very helpful. Just one query, you talk about using “Calibration” to boost the blue +10 or +20, do you mean Hue or Saturation?

I’d say Kodak Tri X gets as close to what I like with out editing XD but even with film you have to tinker with the contrast (like in the darkroom) more than people think….. also I recently found the monochrome settings on nikon get really close to perfect too

The x100v comes very close to perfect out of the camera many times

Tack!

@ForsgardPeter

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Thank you very much!

Peter, thank you very much for the tip about Excire. I used to use Aperture for digital asset management have been in a kind of digital asset management limbo since Apple ceased supporting it. I've just tried Excire and feel like it's the solution I've been hoping and waiting for. I'd be very interested in knowing a bit about how you manage related images (the raw "parents and their edited "children") using Excire. Since Aperture died, I've been organising raw images by year and month. I have them on an SSD with a back up on a second drive. I use On1Raw as my main editor and Luminar Neo as a complimentary tool. What is your advice about where to store sidecar files and the jpgs and tiffs that result from editing work? Would you recommend saving sidecar and edited files in the same folder as the original raw file?

@ForsgardPeter

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I have done the same. Images are organized by year - month - date. Then every folder that has images has. Descriptive name. The format is year-month-day-descriptive name/subject. Then the converted images are in the same folder in their own folder. I have found this the best way for me. I already have an idea of what is inside the folder when I see the name of it. Excire then takes care of the rest. I hope this helps.

@annwheatley4898

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@@ForsgardPeter This makes intuitive sense to me and I will try it. Thanks very much!

So , Excire Foto, standalone, found 29,911 duplicates, how do I choose just one of each inage to keep and delte the rest? Is there a quick way ?

@ForsgardPeter

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It depends what the duplicates are. If they are the same file then deleting is something to consider. If they are jpgs that are converted for raw then maybe deleting is not the thin g to do.

I used to say I edited my photos to look like what I saw when I took the photo, but I have realized that isn't true so now I like to say I edit to look like what I "felt" it looked like. I think photography is more about conveying a feeling than an image. So I try to make it real to feel.

@ForsgardPeter

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That is a good point. Feeling is important.

Has Luminar Neo improved? I bought it on a good prerelease sale, but was quite disappointed in it. I went back to using Luminar 4 for my RAW conversions, polishing off in Corel Paintshop Pro with the old NIK collection (the one Google gave away for free a few years ago).

@ForsgardPeter

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Luminar Neo is getting better. They have introduced new modules. Skylum, the maker of Luminar, is from Ukraine. That might slow then down a bit.

I wonder whether Avedon's backroom printer could (would?) actually be able to pull off those instructions in any meaningful way.

@borderlands6606

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Voja Mitrovic used to print for Magnum greats like Henri Cartier-Bresson and Josef Koudelka. His darkroom technique contained precise exposure instructions for numerous areas of the print. A straight test print from a Koudelka negative bears no resemblance to the exhibition print, which could take hours or even days to achieve.

@kstrohmeier

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@@borderlands6606 Thanks! It has been a long time since I printed in a wet darkroom and admittedly only did so as a hobbyist - I would love to see a master printer at work on a complicated job such as the one referenced in the video.

@ForsgardPeter

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Not sure, but I would guess that Avedon demanded following his instructions.

If you use right settings on camera you don’t need editing much

@ForsgardPeter

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Editing and right settings has some to do with each other, but not much. When getting most out of the sensor ETTR is used. Image comes out quite bright. That is the correct exposure. The image needs to be edited. The balance between the subject and background is not always the way you want. It has nothing to with settings. You might have a perfect settings, but the exposure needs to be adjusted separately from background and/or subject. But we have to remember also that editing is not for fixing bad settings.

my Olympus e-5 has such good color science that I use minimal editing on these files.

Daniel Nyblin: "The Master of Non-Invasive Plastic Surgery". 😁

@ForsgardPeter

Жыл бұрын

😂

Thanks for your hard work! But I have a slightly different opinion on photo processing. Often, when I take a picture, I already see what is bothering me, what key I want to see. It happens that nothing remains of the original - it depends on my mood at the moment. Very often I am completely uninterested in quality (balance, color reproduction, grain, sharpness). The main thing is to convey the mood of the picture. Of course, this is not acceptable for work for a customer, for publications. Yes, my close people scold me for this. They saw a completely different picture, different from mine. But I see it that way, and I shoot mostly for myself. Often, when driving through some places, you notice that at a certain time and weather you can take a great picture here without any processing, but there is no time and I'm lazy ... Problem.

@ForsgardPeter

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Thanks for sharing your thinking process. Interesting and sounds quite good.

It is funny that vignetting in a lens review is seen as negative while you (and Matti) are promoting it in editing.

@ForsgardPeter

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I know. The reason is that when I do vignetting in post i can control it. With lenses it varies depending on the aperture. It is also fixed and cannot be adjusted that easily.

I think the claim that retouching nature photos is a No-No is highly debatable. In documentary, journalism, scientific..., images intended to convey "real" information, retouching that changes the interpretation would be inappropriate. "Nature photography" is a very broad area that can cover anything from scientific to art. I do mainly wildflower imagery. In the wild, the world is not kind to flowers, plants grow in inconvenient settings,.. I do retouch, sometimes a little, sometimes a lot to create an image that conveys the information that I wish to present to the viewer. I try to present artistic realism.

@ForsgardPeter

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I agree that it is debatable. In most cases, it is not ok to retouch nature photography. It is, of course, ok, to adjust the contrast, etc. to match the existing conditions when the photo was made.

I avoid editing unless it's absolutely necessary. Sitting in front of a computer looking at a monitor is not what I consider photography.

@ForsgardPeter

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I think it is part of the whole process like darkroom work is. Of course it is better to be out photographing than spend all the time at the computer or in darkroom.