How I Communicate With Terrorists & Kidnappers | Minutes With
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In this episode of Minutes With, we sat down with Scott Walker, one of the world’s most experienced kidnap for ransom negotiators. Scott reveals the tactics he uses whilst negotiating, recounts his most thrilling cases, and explains how he stays calm whilst bargaining with terrorists.
Scott Walker’s Sunday Times bestseller, Order Out of Chaos: A Kidnap Negotiator's Guide to Influence and Persuasion is published by Piatkus and available to buy online and in stores now.
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Scott Walker’s Sunday Times bestseller, Order Out of Chaos: A Kidnap Negotiator's Guide to Influence and Persuasion is published by Piatkus and available to buy online and in stores now.
@YochevedDesigns
6 ай бұрын
He needs to go into Gaza and negotiate with Hamas. It's been over 2 months, and they still have over 100 hostages. Most of them are elderly and children.
@JunoAbby
3 ай бұрын
Says the kidnappers know he will pay them.
A master in the art of communicating. He's never failed a job and that says a lot about him
@Mcfc2Rich
6 ай бұрын
When he's giving out 300k to terrorists it's hard to think why. I bet they have him on speed dial
@kizombeiro8130
6 ай бұрын
Master of manipulation.
@megadethly
6 ай бұрын
Would you service him off?
@pieterpennings9371
5 ай бұрын
I also don’t think i’ve heard him say “uhm” at all. He is a very good speaker, obviously.
@chavelly1020
2 ай бұрын
Honestly couldn’t agree more
The stress this man must have went through in his life I can't imagine, what a guy
@freakazoid4691
6 ай бұрын
*have gone through
@Sam-gw5pl
6 ай бұрын
@@freakazoid4691ok grammar polise….😉
@Vengeance1978
2 ай бұрын
@freakazoid4691 wow. There is still sad little people like you in the world? How lovely
@Heopful
Ай бұрын
@@freakazoid4691 "went through" is completely fine and grammatically correct.
@SaschaEderer
24 күн бұрын
It's obvious that in his personality make-up, he's very low in neuroticism. He might've not felt much stress at all, at least compared to others.
You can tell this guy is a pro!! Listen to how he breaks down what he's saying. Absolutely professional. 👌
Please have a longer interview with this man. He is obviously brilliant but what sets him apart is he stresses the need to self-regulate our emotions. Take care of self in order to take care of others. His neural activity and emotional stability must be insane.
I need this guy to teach me how to talk to my very stuborn 7 year old 😂
@Sam-gw5pl
6 ай бұрын
Looool right 😅
@stephanie1733
3 ай бұрын
😂
@bryantparker7390
2 ай бұрын
When I was a stubborn child my mom would always consult someone named Mr. Belt
@NibNa5ty
2 ай бұрын
We dont negotiate with terrorist
@sultanabran1
2 ай бұрын
@@bryantparker7390 mine too. my mum conducted short negotiations.
This channel has the best interviews/guests I've ever seen. This guy is completely clear and logical on some really complicated things. The nun interview was also class, asking her about her lifestyle rather than talking strictly about Christianity.
We need a longer interview with him! Such a persona!! Great listen!
impressive man - a stranger to me as I started watching, by the time I finished watching this I totally trusted him with my life haha
@markjones1337
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, you'd make a really rubbish kidnapper
@Fap1
6 күн бұрын
@@markjones1337pedo
Imagine being this collected in the face of everything. Paramedic of 23 years here. I could only wish to have the wherewithal in my life.
@FordyHunt
6 ай бұрын
I bet you're pretty collected my friend
It's really funny to me how he's using those techniques on us, as the audience to this video. We clicked on the video probably out of curiosity, but he may well have deftly realised that a lot of people would actually want to know how to use his techniques in their everyday life, and he gave his techniques and reassurance to make us feel seen, heard and understood in what we probably didn't even realise we wanted. Master at his art. Well done.
This was a great interview. Scott Walker is obviously a fantastic communicator. I found his story very captivating.
Wow, this was a really good interview. And it's really cool that he gave life advice at the end, and how to use HIS tools in your own life.
Although I've never experienced anything like this I can fully understand that nerves of steel are required -at any point in time when you tell the kidnappers they cannot have what they want could cause a trigger to be pulled. To hear a gunshot over a phone must be TERRIFYING.
This was one of the best interviews. The core elements here apply to de escalation and he encapsulate all so well
What a story teller 👏
@dixiewade8373
6 ай бұрын
I would love to hear the rest of the story but suspect no-one on earth will.
@chloeknight1245
6 ай бұрын
@@dixiewade8373he has a book!
@Sam-gw5pl
6 ай бұрын
@@chloeknight1245👀👀
@chloeknight1245
6 ай бұрын
@@Sam-gw5pl they said what it’s called in the description under the video I think
@Sam-gw5pl
6 ай бұрын
@@chloeknight1245 👍😀
validating other people´s emotions, listening, being empathic, all those wonderful tips are just amazingly useful in every day life as well. one of my fav interviews! thank you !
@Arete37
27 күн бұрын
Those are the exact skills that a professional counselor needs. We also learn to find the pervert person's motivation and use that. Why do they want to change, or why do they want a particular thing. I'd love to know how that plays into negotiations, too. I guess like he said, they want to walk away safely at the end, so you'd build on that.
The book is terrific. Absolute blast.
This 20' video felt like a 7', so entertaining
The way he speaks I'm glued to his lips. I didn't intend to watch the whole 20 mins, yet here we are
Absolutely great video, loved watching it and listening to this man. Would even listen much longer.
I don't have the balls for that kinda job, not gonna lie. Credit to anyone doing this 👏🏾
@Tricky181
6 ай бұрын
It’s only talking
@CannibalShadow
6 ай бұрын
@@Tricky181 Which can result in death if done wrong....
@benchmarked7771
Ай бұрын
@@Tricky181🤡 clown
Wonderful guy, wonderful insights.
The fact he has been working 16 years in the most stressful job ever tells me he has god-level hair genetics.
This was amazing! What a great interview and a great man 🙌
A very technical explaination of a a negotiator sharing his knowledge of expertise
Ngl I thought this was Peter Crouch from the thumbnail 😂😂
Great interview 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
thank you. excellent lecture.
Whilst I like to think I have good communication skills, doing it under that kind of pressure when peoples life is at stake, that’s a whole new level!... as for teenagers, I learnt that you don’t have to turn up for every drama llama you are invited too! Pick your battles 🤣🤣
@NoudlePipW
6 ай бұрын
Drama llama 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Remarkable story thank you for sharing Scott
Jack Kornfield in his book "A Path With Heart" gives excellent instructions on how to do just what is described here, label one's emotions. I used that with therapy clients a lot. Most of us only know "sad, angry, happy" and never sit down and put a finer point of words on our many feelings. Disappointed, frustrated, discouraged, calm, content, elated." And then just let them pass. Even with huge feelings of stress this helps. bring you back to the present moment and brings a sense of control. Over you, not the situation.
Learn to love yourself, and you will never feel lonely, alone yes, but not lonely. I too was never loved as a child, never felt safe or had a home of my own. I then was a drug addict and alcoholic for 15 years, and let me tell you. That’s lonely lol. But now, now I try and better my life everyday.
@mimisikujui5514
6 ай бұрын
I'm happy u are ok now.
@Analoguebubblebath89
6 ай бұрын
@@mimisikujui5514 I commented on the wrong video lol
@Sam-gw5pl
6 ай бұрын
@@Analoguebubblebath89OMG looooool
@benjamjarmin
5 ай бұрын
@@Analoguebubblebath89 Hope you're keeping good buddy. I'm at the very start of things. Messed up a lot since I left school. Dropped university and things I shouldn't have. On to bigger and better now. Your last statement resonated with me so I thought I'd say Hey.
@Analoguebubblebath89
5 ай бұрын
@@benjamjarmin Thank you brother. Be strong
You can tell by the look in his eyes that he’s been through hell and back.
Totally impressed by this.
Fantastic video, excellent guy, full respect..
What a great video! Very informative
That’s a man who’s carried a lot of stress on his shoulders.
@Arete37
27 күн бұрын
Except that it's not his crisis in a negotiation. It's someone else's and that makes a huge difference. If it were his child abducted he might be a hot mess.
Would love a lart 2 where he explains how to communicate with the council tax number and his tactics to resolve private parking tickets
Intriguing
Amazing interviewee. Wish the interviewer asked some better questions though
Can you imagine arguing with him you would never win 😂😂 his amazing . Very interesting interview
I think kidnapping will become more and more common in developed countries. The divide between the rich and the poor is becoming enormous and working a regular job these days doesn’t even mean you’ll be okay. Working two, three jobs just to pay the bills and still have nothing will push some to the edge.
@Heopful
Ай бұрын
not to mention crypto
Interesting interview with one gaping hole - the unasked/unanswered question of how or when if ever does law enforcement get involved in taking out the kidnappers? The interview made it sound as if you just haggle over the price then pay them and they go on to do it again and again.
@TeaCup1940
5 ай бұрын
Because that is unfortunately exactly what happens. If law enforcement would do their job properly in many countries there wouldn't even be any kidnappers. But yes, they do this again and again as he said and they are an illegal business.
@Alexden96Channel
2 ай бұрын
Agreed. He described it as a lucrative business. How can we stop that root cause?
great video
As soon as he said they said they were going to escort him to safety and give him a clean phone I was like oh they really know what they’re doing, they’re making sure they make good on their end of the deal so people know going forward the hostages WILL be given back if you pay them, at least w this specific group. That’s CRAZY
I am going to find it, thanks
Great video. How do private individuals fund the ransoms?
@xohina_r
6 ай бұрын
They have kidnapping insurance
I need this man with me every day to help me regulate my emotions 😂
@Heopful
Ай бұрын
have you also stopped showering and shaving your face?
@Arete37
27 күн бұрын
Go to therapy, especially DBT therapy. It's designed to help people with Borderline Personality Disorder learn to regulate their emotions. It works.
Knows his business, but the look of his face suggests it has taken a toll on him.
If you need a negotiator… call Karl Pilkington.
@Tricky181
6 ай бұрын
Congress tart
@Alex-mj5dv
Ай бұрын
‘To be honest with you.. this was my last week’
@tatz2uk
29 күн бұрын
Orrrrgh, bet you're hot in there
“Don’t be afraid of making mistakes.” The hostage listening 👁️👄👁️ Jk lol I know it’s tough work out there, keep it up.
Brilliant..and what a nice guy...Almost makes me want to become a Kidnapper! (joke)
Sjoe.......I've got lots of questions.........it seems that arresting the people who did the kidnapping is not a priority????
I just find that so funny how one min the kidnappers are like "Give us the $ or we will fucking kill your people"... 2 seconds after transaction is over "Oh btw here's a clean mobile phone, you call us if anyone gives you trouble and we will come help you". What?? lmao!
Better question to consume the entire interview: imagine a world when hostage negotiators are extraneous, where you need to reskill.
Random I know - Love the watch, does anyone know what it is?
He could easily play a character in Tarantino movie.
Didnt realise Peter Crouch did this in his spare time
In the advert: Charlie Kirk asks how much? 70?80?. Sir if 10% that's 0.15°... a LOT of impact we can change
So after the kidnappers get the money they don’t get arrested? Also wouldn’t they think that the person giving them money is the cops.
Rule #1 Negotiatiors negogiate Commanders command
I wonder when military like SAS is called in vs. just keeping it to solely negotiation and handing over money
@Heopful
Ай бұрын
I think i've read Seal team 6, when clearing rooms train to shoot the enemy in the head even if they're holding a hostage in front of them. The text mentioned they would use team-members as simulated hostages, so they'd be shooting
aighhhhht, negotiate me too daddy
Another intefvew with this chap please. Or scott, srart a youtube channel
fact; not one person who clicked on this video turned it off before the end. fascinating.
❤❤
My brother is kidnapped. It’s been 8 days now. I am the one communicating with the kidnappers. This is really helpful. Our next call is in 6 hrs.
That's a very rehearsed story, well told for sure but very well rehearsed.
Has there any case that he did not gave any money to the kidnapper and still got the hostages back?
This guy would make a killing selling insurance
I'd love to see snoop dogg on snack wars
@Sam-gw5pl
6 ай бұрын
He’d be pretty hungry
@JURASSICJACK303
6 ай бұрын
@@Sam-gw5pl yeah
You can see he's seen some funked up shit in he's career
So the kidnappers actually got 300k?
Jack bauer taught this guy
Why you got 2 watches on lad
@asvp_foster2006
3 ай бұрын
I’m assuming the black one is for tracking steps/health. The other is likely just a clock. Regular jewelry.
Excellent
Gee, what a fine chap, only, he’s just explained to anyone looking for a career in kidnapping that the negotiator is full of shit and whomever he’s speaking on behalf of definitely has more money than they’re letting on.
why do i feel like this is Chuck Norris's son?
93% wow
Weird. From memory Scott was a red DS from NSY. Not a qualified international neg. Certainly not an interface with government. Never did the actual decision making. Good luck mate.
@zakgault4209
Ай бұрын
What do you mean chap?
Obviously this role requires nerves of steel. However, let’s be real- there are many people capable of handing over great wedges of money to kidnappers. The courier is in a far riskier role. Making these huge payouts saves one life whilst simultaneously feeding into a system that will end up claiming more lives than he has saved. It’s a false economy that only benefits the criminal gangs in the end.
Normal sized Peter Crouch
Why is he wearing two watches?
@FallenAngel9979
5 ай бұрын
Different time zones?
@JohnHirstUK
5 ай бұрын
@@FallenAngel9979 perhaps so.
@nickyp1435
2 ай бұрын
You wouldn’t understand it, civ. It’s a boot mentality thing.
@JohnHirstUK
2 ай бұрын
@@nickyp1435oh, I’m sure I could understand it.
@nickyp1435
2 ай бұрын
@@JohnHirstUK I’m sure you’re sure, but im sure you’re not ready for the info Johnny boy
Is it just me or does it not make sense to do zero negotiations, and never pay. Because then there is no reason for a gang to kidnap someone? No business deal?
@mr.green3r892
12 күн бұрын
It's just you
I would not like to negotiate with this guy in a local bazar 😅
this guy acts like he has control over tier 1 hostage units that are deployed by his superiors lmao
He talks like Nick Frost when he's making up a story as he goes. Also, if these kidnappers want to be seen as "trustworthy" and make a name for themselves, then surely he already knew who they were?
So they just pay them?
@KL-zg7lu
2 ай бұрын
Uh, no. Someone who would plan out a kidnapping either has no morals, or is unstable af.
@marshjj3788
2 ай бұрын
He got them from demanding 3 million to reaching a deal for 300k which takes the highest negotiation skills and saved their lives. There's lots more to it than just paying them.
I can’t help ,when I watch these types of videos, that they are only informing the baddies. I know they will hold back crucial information and tips, but still.
I hope he goes on Soft White Underbelly!
All well and good but never trust a man that wears two watches
93% sucess rate is astronomical but necessary. In our occupation there is room for a missed shot. A missed shot is a life lost
The women in these comments want this man to listen to them 😂
Do NOT play poker with this man.
Best not to negotiate with terrorists.
It’s wild to me that sapiens will hold their own species hostage when everyone is our people
Does this guy have vices? I just want to know the answer to that question
Think they just hire actors for these 20 minute series at this point
@KL-zg7lu
2 ай бұрын
Digitally-altered face.
just sounds too much like an amateur actor to be believable.