How hard is it to avoid sales taxes by becoming a New Hampshire dealer?
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As a dealer in Ohio, Doug from Switchcars is subject to some strange laws and regulations. Years ago, he tried to work around them by setting up a dealership in New Hampshire. It didn't go very well.
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Doesn’t that realtor have a conflict of interest? A good revenge would have been reporting her to the state agency overseeing real estate agents
@MasterBasser
5 жыл бұрын
shes probably in bed with them too.
@JoelGetzhasauselessurl
5 жыл бұрын
They always look after their own.
@wolfman1549
5 жыл бұрын
dasaini or sue her
@aarond1623
5 жыл бұрын
I'm an agent in NH and what she did was completely unethical.
@crissd8283
5 жыл бұрын
@@aarond1623 absolutely unethical. But we all know nothing will happen until someone with lots of money or power decides to take her down.
"Can I register this car?" "Uhh, We don't do that here"
@markm0000
5 жыл бұрын
He would have gotten all his problems fixed with a little money under the table. The inspection officer would have gotten $30k and a free Porsche. The lady at the DMV would have been invited to a nice dinner and an envelope with $50k. All in he would have had a shoe box used car dealer around $100k instead of blowing money on that condo and renting out the nose for 2 years. Then free tax on Porsche's for decades.
@MrH786
5 жыл бұрын
He needed a good lawyer to handle the licensing and business setup. Cities and boards play games with permitting and other things.
@noth606
5 жыл бұрын
Mark M fuck that shit, rather lose money than ever give in to that kind of crap. If anything he should have lawyered up and sued them.
@SlidTossedPissed
5 жыл бұрын
@@markm0000 Does a NICE VW with paint, manuel and a gated shifter count as a porsche?
@garthor
5 жыл бұрын
@@SlidTossedPissed only if you chop the top, and add porche badges... =p
I feel like Doug should have found a cooler way to get back at the condo lady.
@Slysdexia2
5 жыл бұрын
or maybe he did but isn't willing to tie himself to it publicly.
@wrxzboost
5 жыл бұрын
self incriminating?
@tokirak
5 жыл бұрын
We’ll see what VINWiki video comes out after statute of limitations expires
@RogerAlan
5 жыл бұрын
When is the Doug's Not In Jail party?
@pppaybackkk
5 жыл бұрын
@Famous Benz That's fucking stupid. You should be ashamed of yourself. What if she's fugly?
Today I learned, Doug really has money like that lol
@SavageHenry762
5 жыл бұрын
if you have not been tracking, these stories are about guys wheeling and dealing in exotic cars, vintage race cars as a teen and early 20's, buying multiple cars on a whim as they sit in a jury box... a guy that cant stop polishing his special porsche. these guys all have deep pockets.
@switchcars
5 жыл бұрын
I started with nothing and went broke twice, once shortly after this story. I'll tell the whole story of my ups and downs in the car business sometime.
@flyingwolffilms
5 жыл бұрын
switchcars that would be a great story I love hearing how people come up from nothing
@samdufour1195
5 жыл бұрын
@@switchcars I'd love to hear that story. I'm 18 and I've been thinking about trying to get into the exotic vehical sales business, not just for the financial profit but also because of my passion for rare exotics. It's a big dream living in Maine where everyone drives a lifted truck but I wouldn't mind moving out of state.
@jimfree0
4 жыл бұрын
Pfft! More bankruptcies than President Trump!
I will NEVER live in a HOA neighborhood!!
@TheCobruhAlienat0r
5 жыл бұрын
One of my friends lives in one. They claim they don't have the money to repave the road but they some how have money for a contract with a towing company to tow any car that parks on the street in front of someone's house instead of using the guest spots a block away.
@TheCobruhAlienat0r
5 жыл бұрын
@@jasenrock Oh, I figured the property company would have to pay for them to make trips out to look for offenders. So you're saying they roll around looking for offenders for free in the hopes that they find cars to hook?
@thesqueakybrake
5 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what those assholes do
@TheCobruhAlienat0r
5 жыл бұрын
@@jasenrock That explains why my city is having trouble storing all of the cars they catch because the fees are so high that they quickly exceed the value of the car. Most of the cars they catch are junkers that broke down and people would rather just get another junker than pay to get the car out and then pay more money to fix what broke on the car that caused them to abandon it in the first place. Now my city won't tow a car unless it's blocking the road cause they don't have anywhere to store it.
@MrInternFTL
4 жыл бұрын
Poor
“Taxachussetts”😂 so true
@profstein-bq2tc
5 жыл бұрын
i've heard massachusetts residents love the taxes there so much that they move to a different state.
@jhallawesome
4 жыл бұрын
Mass residents love taxes. Lived here my whole life and every time there is a voting to raise taxes for something stupid it gets granted. Last month it got voted on for another 4 % more out of every check to make sure the lines are fully painted on streets and highways😤
Sales tax on used items is pure BS. Not uncommon for the tax collected on a single item (changed hands multiple times) to exceed the value of the item. That's just wrong.
@MrEeeaddict
5 жыл бұрын
Why? America is so fucked because a lot of the taxes that should be collected aren't
@BloodSweatandGears
5 жыл бұрын
And how about the states (Mass & VA) that charge vehicle excise tax every year? A tax on a tax, that keeps on going!
@patrickwassall116
5 жыл бұрын
@@BloodSweatandGears Fuck taxachusetts.
@agisler87
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrEeeaddict It's fucked because government keeps doing things it has no business doing. Like deciding who can sell cars and how.
@HerculesRockefellerESQ
4 жыл бұрын
We get taxed in Onterrible Canada on used cars, and they dont even use the sale price. They use the wholesale retail value, according to their garbage 'used vehicle information' package, which they also charge you for on every vehicle sold privately.
As a lifelong NH resident, I can say that Doug's experience dealing with the government here is sadly not too far out of the ordinary.
@TheFoulMouthNews
5 жыл бұрын
I am a life long resident myself and know people who are both bonded and licensed dealers here. With that I can tell you he is completely talking out of his ass about the situation. He tried to become a licensed dealer so he could temp tag cars he bought in his travels and sold on regardless of it happening within the state or not. Which is actually pretty shady. If he went to become a bonded dealer he wouldn't have had the state trooper showing up for an inspection. That only happens for a licensed dealer and they expect to see an actual car dealership with facilities when they show up. He was hoping they would give him a free pass and didn't. So now he's butt hurt.
@N1RKW
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheFoulMouthNews - I understand and agree with all that. While I don't have your background, I know he was trying to game the system. I recognized that and chose not to mention it in the spirit of kindness. I do stand by what I said: Dealing with the NH government can be both weird and exasperating. I've experienced similar roadblock tactics myself when NOT trying to game the system! By the way, I really like your user ID. Judging by it alone I would guess that you and I would tend to agree on many subjects.
@N1RKW
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheFoulMouthNews- I am indeed constantly surprised by raging socialist idiots getting continually re-elected. I simply can't understand why some people want this great country to become like the USSR (everyone was so happy and well off there...). People from every generation of my family back to the Revolutionary War were patriots who served this country and I respect their legacy, and that of all others who have fought for our freedoms, and the value of this great republic. I have little to no tolerance for anything that is designed to remove or reduce our constitutional freedoms. That being said, I don't believe that this is the best forum for such a discussion, though I appreciate you sharing your feelings. Indeed, we do seem to agree on many things. :)
@123ascars8
5 жыл бұрын
I live in berwick Maine 👍🏼
@zachbalon4027
2 жыл бұрын
Fellow Nh’erite here probably worst state to drive exotics in unless your in like Hampton or rye
My VINwiki Montana LLC shirt is honestly my favorite shirt. Gets so many amazing comments.
probably worth it to speak to an attorney on this stuff. Wouldn't hurt as you cant pick and choose how to enforce a law.
I am a lifetime resident of New Hampshire and have a dealer license. All you gotta do if find a vacant lot and put a large shed or “Office” on the lot and you will 100% get a dealer license. Residential never works. It’s gotta be zoned commercially. Doug should really give it a try again.
@TheFoulMouthNews
5 жыл бұрын
Are you a bonded or licensed dealer? Because I know both and the only ones I know who've had the inspection were licensed.
“Granola People”
Last time I was this early, JR Garage still thought they knew what they were doing.
Shirt goes well with the story!
“That’s not my wife, that’s a kangaroo” *vinwiki intro starts playing*
Well. That was depressing.
Back in the sixties, my dad had enough cars to fill every square foot of free ground on his parents postage stamp... and one license plate. After a year or so, my grandmother gets a letter in the mail from PennDOT demanding she, since all cars were in her name, obtain a dealer’s license because my father was swapping the plate so often it was agitating the paper pushers in Harrisburg. Back in the good ole days Pennsylvania would give anyone a dealer license
I feel I must have missed the point in this story? 🤔 Tried to get a dealer license, couldn't, then sold the house?
@TBendez
5 жыл бұрын
Corruption. The great american escape. When you don't have the necessary laws to enforce what you want to do and just come up with them out of the blue. So, state, local and private corruption in this case.
@rich5708
5 жыл бұрын
I agree, is the point to not buy A lake view condo rent a house and you couldn’t get what you wanted and lost money so just pay the sales tax? Lol
@imouse3246
5 жыл бұрын
@Stuart: Watch it again.
@rossdavis5833
5 жыл бұрын
In summary, he tried to avoid paying sales tax by exploiting a set of loopholes that would appear to work given the letter of the state law. However, in attempting to implement the exploit, he discovered that the actual execution of the law prevented him from doing so. I'd say the point of the story would be that even if your homework suggests that the system can be gamed, sometimes society will not tolerate it. And also, that condo HOAs are crazy.
@beaudaniel1370
5 жыл бұрын
@@rossdavis5833 All HOAs
Wife: It’s either me or the cars Him: “at the time I was going through a divorce”
Another great story, thank you for sharing!
New Hampshire and SC are a lot a like. Filing cabinet that locks and a sign with 6” letters and a 96 sqft building/office . Bond and insurance boom 💥 your a car dealer lol
@marvi1515
5 жыл бұрын
Are you serious? This is good!
@rabbits_used_cars
5 жыл бұрын
Marvin Walcott I was being sarcastic. There’s way more
You fell victim to the tyranny of the town selectmen. It's the great irony of New Hampshire living. The state will generally let you "live free or die" but then the town selectmen will come in and fill the void by micromanaging every aspect of your life and arbitrarily enforcing different rules however they want. Great video though.
This is why Doug remains one of my favorite storytellers.
Title: “How hard is it to avoid SALES TAXES...” *Josh Wates has entered the chat*
@TheKrillWillRule
5 жыл бұрын
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Love hearing story's about my home state Ohio!! Makes it feel even more relatable.
Damn, I have family in New Hampshire I'm surprised they are all being tools up there about the dealer license stuff. Good story too. Can't imagine having to pay 4-5 mortgage's! Lol
@TheFoulMouthNews
5 жыл бұрын
From the sound of things Doug was trying to scam the state and they caught on. I live in New Hampshire and know multiple people who are bonded or licensed dealers here. He tried to become a licensed dealer so he could get temp tags and thought he was special and didn't need to have the facilities to be one in the state. If he had tried to become a bonded dealer there wouldn't have been a State Trooper showing up for an inspection. This is because a bonded dealer's license is meant for someone who might sell more than four cars a year like a hobbyist who fixes them up. Or for someone who wants to be a dealer for a lower cost, do it part-time, etc.
Another crown Vic story. I daily drive a 2000 CVPI I LOVE IT! Best first car ever!
@brettconv83
5 жыл бұрын
RaggedyRacing Garage 4.6 L 2V Motor is great !
@RaggedyRacingGarage
5 жыл бұрын
Brett C I love it. Cut the exhaust off from the headers weld up a 90 degree elbow and stick the tip out the side and you can definitely hear the 4.6 Rip I love my car!
*Doug abides by every NH law and sticks to the rules and regulations* NH: Wait that's illegal...
I live in Maine and work in New Hampshire. I am often asked why I don't live in NH where there is no state income tax. BS like this is rampant in NH, and property taxes are insane (in any desirable area). I'll gladly pay Maine income tax to avoid their BS.
@TheFoulMouthNews
5 жыл бұрын
So you wouldn't more to New Hampshire because Doug lied about what really happened and his trying to scam the state? Good to know.
So basically he tried to open a car dealer out of his house and they didn’t let him. The end
Same thing goes where I live you can not put a for sale sign on your car or a for sale sign on your house they'll make you remove it and you can not park and reverse your car will get towed away
Doug is back 👌🏼👌🏼
Damn I watched the whole video and not a single cat was killed.....
I thought he was going to say he sold the HOA lady a car dirt cheap and was able to do whatever he wanted from there on. Oh well.
Ok we def need a Live free or die vinwiki shirt...please..
@3d_alliance
5 жыл бұрын
Vinwiki or die?
Each time I see Doug on a preview, I don’t care who odd of a title it is, I’m watching it 👌🏻
In summary, very hard.
Hey VINwiki. I worked as a wholesale salesman at a bigger dealership in Maine and heard from my manager that the bigger dealerships actually look for people who do this and register as a dealership at they're house just to get a license. Then they shut them down. Have you guys in the past ever run into this?
Never thought I’d see New Hampshire featured on this channel. Greetings from Strafford, New Hampshire!
@asdffdsa7657
3 жыл бұрын
Constitutionalist Libertarian it honestly wouldn’t have even saved much money. It’s dirt cheap to register a car here to begin with.
The last time I came this early, she didn't talk to me again
I love the pink flamingos reference, "babs where is the egg man?"
Based on this story and the language used, I'd wager that Doug is a Libertarian. I hope so anyway.
hahahaah Doug as always...thanks for sharing the most Adventurous times in your Car World !(: great story
Road to a million congrats guys
Doug that condo board thing exists at every condo
I had almost same experience trying to start a used car Dealership in NH. In the end cut my losses cost me just under $50000. Complete crap way to run a state.
Dad working for you? That's a reversal of traditional roles I didn't see coming.
$250,000 for a lake front condo, not bad. Here in Denver you can get a condo with a nice view of an ally for $500,000
I cannot think of one time I’ve considered visiting New Hampshire. I did a school report in the 4th grade and struggled to find anything interesting in comparison to other states
@SangheiliSpecOp
5 жыл бұрын
lol
You’re a good guy, Doug!
Does the realtor have a cat? Payback! Hahaha
One of the issues that every buyer of anything anywhere is sales tax, property tax, income tax, phone tax, death taxes.....................
@peppertalks6948
5 жыл бұрын
At least theres not a tax on your taxes
@thomaskreisz8477
5 жыл бұрын
@@peppertalks6948 there is on some things.....
@CarlosSilva-gj2hu
5 жыл бұрын
@@peppertalks6948 in Portugal , if you import a car, you pay a tax on a tax
@andy56duky
5 жыл бұрын
@@peppertalks6948 California taxed your taxes so they can tax you while they tax you. #taxed
I hope my heaven is just like PRP, great video and story, keep up the great work!
I truly loath these power hungry bureaucrats
So... how can a legitimate registration license request be turned down for reasons totally not legit according to the state's own laws? I mean I'm from Europe and I can fight this. In the US, this must have a workaround. Record them, make official complaint, local, then city, then state, then federal... That request was within the scope of law and basically a formality, the state has no power to say "yeah we don't want that." Seriously WTF America.
The Mexican Stig Is Back 🙌🙌
Ed, when u reach the milion subs You, rabbit and Doug should make a video together
@jamesf9610
5 жыл бұрын
It would ever work. Three alphas in the same room trying to tell a story would be a battle.
@kipdiggs1827
5 жыл бұрын
They'd just sit around finding different ways to say, "Kimmie, do you have butt implants?"
What is the Ohio policy on wire fraud to get interest free loans of $160,000?
I live in Taxachusetts, great assessment of the north east...spot on.
Much love from New Hampshire
That realtor is out of her mind. There is a code of ethics that realtors are required to follow, but seems to disobey the code of ethics as a whole. There are good realtors out there people, trust me.
@brianz2802
5 жыл бұрын
MaxSpeed there is always one like this in every neighborhood
So... what happened in the end? No dealer license ever received? Parents moved? Why were you trying to get a dealer license there to begin with? So much left out of this story.
So you were basically trying to scam NH and OHIO and got caught. I live in Maine near the NH border, and there was a time when it was very common to buy and register the car in NH. But over the years, they have been clamping down on it to the point where its pretty much impossible
Frankly, this is why they invented tuna tea sandwiches: Invite her for a conciliatory lunch and serve them, 25% of the sandwich accidentally contaminated. A bit 'o tuna, a bit 'o tea, and a bit 'o strychnine. Oops.
NY and California state tax... Yea let that sink in
@MaxSpeedMike
5 жыл бұрын
@@CurtisOrionJonesBA-kn6km 4.5% in NY....
@Mlopez_602
5 жыл бұрын
Arizona is high as hell too.
6:50 Cop was fishing for a bribe. Realtor was fishing for a beatdown in the parking garage.
I live in Boston now, I grew up in NH. It's like a 10yr time warp and ass backwards up there. No sales tax, no motorcycle helmet law, insurance for auto & Moto isn't required, also no seatbelt law. But they passed a hands free law a couple of years ago. Which is fine for most states (and generally great for safety), it is contradictory to the "Live Free or Die" mantra. Very scenic though.
Love Doug even more after watching this video.
Should’ve filed a 14th amend suit. Hands down equal protection
3:14 "so I'm like, 'this is great' "... cause I already have a cardboard box!
Wait. Correct me if I didn't follow along correctly,but did he say that he bought a condo while going through a divorce? I don't think that would be a purchase I would be willing to make,until I settled the mess that is a divorce.
The problem with New Hampshire is that you can’t have tint and emissions are strict. On the upside you can have any car from ‘95 or before and it doesn’t apply for a few tests. I live on a dirt road, so if a car is going to be low, it better be bagged.
Nice Tag Heuer Carrera, Doug.
In New Jersey you get a used car dealer license if you have a cubical 2 parking spots and a phone line. They have big offices called multi dealer facilities that rent the cubical and parking spots out. I pay 500 monthly for my dealer facility
Of course when it comes to registering your supercar, it has to be Doug
these are called "illegally promulgated underground regulations" and are usually outlawed by the state's administrative procedure act (e.g. here in California, commencing with Government Code 11340).
New Hampshire VinWiki fans represent!
Weird experience, after my dad sold his Subaru dealership in NH he got another dealer license for this purpose as well as to not have to register all the cars we had at the time and it was nowhere near this difficult. Maybe it was because everybody in the field knew who he was since he was prominent in the small world of NH dealers
This guy always has the best shirts
Hahaha the "granola people to the west" im dead
Granola people made my day!
Come to Missouri, Doug. A little bit of sales tax, but no hassles in business locations.
I'm from taxachusetts it sucks have to pay lots of sales tax
@andy56duky
5 жыл бұрын
Taxifornia disagrees.
Great story! Easier to pay your taxes!
As a guy that's shopping for a condo/house, HOA's and the BBQ Becky's in charge of them scare the crap out of me.
In finland we have a 25% import fee on all vehicles : l The new supra starts at 85 000 $
@albin_ljungqvist
5 жыл бұрын
Dave Pawson yeah, it kinda does. But a lot of cars are rusted to shit anyways because of the winters and road salt
@ybmb1121
5 жыл бұрын
South East Asia has 200-300% import duties for cars. No big deal.
@albin_ljungqvist
5 жыл бұрын
@@ybmb1121 Is that why everyone drives mopeds?
Being from Maine and having gone to school in NH and NY, he's spot on with the politics in New England.
Only on VINWiki would you spend 250k and rent a useless place to keep from paying 6% sales tax.
@zaxbysfan1014
5 жыл бұрын
you can theoretically make back that 250k since its property, it's a smart idea
More Doug !
I would pay any single amount of money for Ed to read anything off a piece of paper
Love your Dad's Guild Starfire.. I have a vintage Guild.
I bought a $26k S5 from a friend and when I registered it, I only paid "$2000" for it. 😉
Michigan has a loophole where you title it as FOR RESALE ONLY title. Boom, used car license, no sales tax
Doug got a free trial of what Brazil is in this story
The condo tyrant’s cats have the 9mm mod.
I knew instantly that this was Doug's
First I was amazed that the HOA would be OK with you running a business from the condo. Then, when you said the HOA president blocked you, I had to wonder just who did you talk to that told you it was OK. Lastly, I just kept thinking that you really needed to make the acquaintance of a really good attorney or two. It is amazing how many times these petty individuals will fold when faced with a lawsuit and having their property frozen by a court until the the issue is settled.
I just started sending old pickup trucks from Idaho to New Hampshire to flip. No rust trucks are impossible to find up there. I pay $100 to register them, NH doesn’t title anything older than 99’. I sell the truck with a NH bill of sale and the NH registration. I hope they don’t throttle my truck registrations at the DMV. I can get my Mom and Dad to register them as well since they are always cash sales under $10,000.....hopefully 😕
Seems like they're asking for a lawsuit. They're blatantly ignoring the wording of the law.
In New Hampshire you can get away with damn near anything, but it has to be your name on the deed. That’s what you get with a state run on property taxes.