Air suspension with 4.10 gears is the perfect setup. I tow over 9000ft passes 8% grade at 3500 rpm. 4.10 makes a huge difference.

Good to see you making some gas truck videos! Also Good for folks to see the 6.4 (or any HD gas engine) is a very capable/cost effective alternative to the diesel. I have a similar Bighorn, a few less features, and about 200lbs more payload. It can't pull as much or as fast as the diesel, but for folks like me, it does just fine. I live in a hilly area with an 8k# camper. I get up & down grades no problem. 3.73 rear, 8-9mpg towing, 15 unloaded.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing 👍🏾

Love my 2021 2500 with the 6.4. Pulls my 30 foot 10000 pound travel Trailer with ease. It is truly a fantastic truck. No one disputes the Cummins power but this 6.4 Hemi is no slouch. Straight up it pulls like a beast.

@achebe171

Жыл бұрын

What about empty? Can you tell a difference, would there really be a difference long term?

@paulselebay4402

Жыл бұрын

Wait until your lifters and cam go..... its not if....its when... just got rid of my 6.4..... will never own a hemi again!

@speedshifter101

Жыл бұрын

@@paulselebay4402 I feel this is any gas and a big reason to get a diesel, longevity. Gm has issues Ford has issue and ram is no exception on the gas engines.

@paulselebay4402

Жыл бұрын

@speedshifter101 Yeah, all makes can have that problem. However, the hemi engine is more likely than not to have the lifters fail. It's a poor design that Dodge is well aware of and refuses to fix......thats why the hemi engine is being canceled.

@sarmce

Жыл бұрын

How the down shift when slowing down

Best real world reviews out there!! Looking forward for this test with the 6.6 gas from gm

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Clinton, I did one on a 6.6L just not on the 6% grade 👍🏾

I love how excited you got when driving the truck in the beginning saying how it’s going to be your next one lol. I have a fifth GEN 1500 that can tow up to nearly 12,000 pounds and when I have half of that weight behind me I don’t even notice it and that’s with a 5.7 L hemi but the 8 speed transmission is night and day compared to the old six speed I love it and my fuel economy on the new ram averages 17 so I’m happy.

@JB_WhoWork

2 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome RT, thanks for sharing 👍🏾

I have that same truck and tow a 9000lb Grand Design 315RLTS...hardly even notice the trailer is even there because it drives and handles so well! No doubt the 2994lbs of cargo capacity help! You're spot-on with all you mentioned about it for towing. I added an air suspension kit just to provide additional support (didn't actually NEED them). The only real drawback to mention for those still trying to decide what tow vehicle to buy is that with the gasoline engine you have to be much more careful about refueling due to some gas stations' islands not having enough clearance to safely tow through the fuel islands. Since the Ram is not a diesel, the truck lanes are not an option for ease-of-access to refuel. Still, we select routes that have Pilot or Flying J stations with RV lanes whenever possible, at best...always go to the outside fuel islands at worst. On a good day with lots of flats and a tailwind, we can get between 9-10mpg, but the average is between 8-8.5mpg. Great video -- keep up the great work, JB!

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Very good point about refueling because I typically go to the truck stop when towing my Fifth Wheel 👍🏾

There's a difference between doing something and then thriving at it.

Bought a 21 Duramax 3500HD. Exhaust brake and quiet cabin when pulling hills were the two main factors.

I have a 2003. Pre smog. No emmisions bullshit at all Dodge Ram crewcab dually 8ft bed 4wd Cummins. I still get great mileage and power especially with a Smarty jr tuner. Im still happy with my ole girl. The new trucks are nothin but trouble.

I was going to buy THIS truck from Tate I loved it sadly I had some stuff happen with my dog so I had to pull out glad to see a video on it though!

Beautiful truck. Leveling kit and tires go a long way. Great for someone that will mostly be towing on flat land or minimal grade/elevation. If you are gonna tow 12k plus regularly get a diesel.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

💯

Great video as always JB you're spot on with your assessment I have a 19 2500 laramie With ram Box and 4 by 4 off road package with 2941 payload and 14,441 max towing It tows my 7k travel trailer with ease The one thing I would change Is install 410 gears Never discount the hemi and the 8 speed is amazing

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Facts, I can’t wait to pull with the 4.10 HEMI since this one did so well! Thanks bro 👍🏾

Love this truck! 1000 lbs more payload than a Diesel mega cab! IMHO the 2500 suspension tows bumper pull trailers great.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait for you to see a video soon in regards to this!!! Do I have your email, I will let you preview it when I post footage 👍🏾

I have a 2020 Tradesman with the 6.4 and 3: 73 gears. We pull our 7800lb camper with no problems. We average around 9.3mpg when towing.

Good that you are showing us gas. Now Enjoyed video👍

Thanks for this video! I bought basically this same truck. Gives me some confidence with my 36 ft travel trailer

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome congrats!

@xe140

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jbs6187 We stayed at our current spot for 13 weeks we leave for a 600 mile trip on friday! I expect no problems! If you do have the option get the 4.10 gears. When I bought this truck i needed one relatively quick. That being said 3.73 is working out great for my needs.

I have a 2018 RAM 3500 with 4.10 gears and the 6.4 Hemi. Max towing capcity 15,848 lbs, max cargo 3,748 lbs, GVWR 10,800 lbs, and GCVWR 22,900 lbs. It tows like a dream! I understand towing a dump trailer has less wind resistance, but I tow my dump trailer (total weight 12,000 lbs) and I average 9 MPG. I get around18 MPG on the highway not towing.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

You have a unicorn truck and I would like to own one of these one day, thanks for sharing 👍🏾

@RAM-on8xb

3 жыл бұрын

@@JB_WhoWork Thanks, I ordered from the factory. I just couldnt justify the extra $ for the diesel. I do wish it had an exhaust brake, but in tow haul mode it does help on the steep grades.

That 5000 rpm would drive me nuts. I’ll stick to my diesel

@jasons5842

3 жыл бұрын

I'm at 497hp 923 ft lbs of torque and get 19 highway and 14 towing whatever you want to put on my trailer.

@jasons5842

3 жыл бұрын

Sweet trailer by the way

@dewboy13

3 жыл бұрын

Ya, but he had it mashed to the floor doing damn near 80 miles per hour. That's not normal driving with a trailer in my opinion.

@titantitan8750

3 жыл бұрын

Or get an Ecoboost. Closest to a diesel powerband you will get.

@jaderhuff81

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasons5842 don’t tell the epa 😂

I have a 2018 Powerwagon lifted 3" with 35"mt. I put airbags in rear and I tow a Stryker 2613. NO ISSUES

In my 5.7 Hemi with 8 speed if I set the cruise on a downhill the transmission will downshift on its own to hold the speed down. The 8 speed is a game changer.

nice video and all the good info thanks

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the comment 🙏🏾

There will always be a need for a diesel in pickups as they are now defined. A 350/3500 dually with a 30k towing capacity will need a diesel or the MDT trucks such as the 450/550/ 4500/5500 trucks.

Great video! There are a few things to consider in regards to fuel mileage. As you mention this truck has oversized tires and is leveled which introduces a lot more air/drag than a stock truck would. The other thing with these 6.4's is octane, you will get better mileage and performance running 93 or even 89. For the weekend warrior these trucks are hard to beat.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks James and I agree! I mentioned this at the end because I forgot about it on the drive 👍🏾

@jamesgreer3936

3 жыл бұрын

@@JB_WhoWork the octane tho 👍

@justpalms9978

2 жыл бұрын

Your supposed to run 89 in the 6.4 anyway

That is a beautiful truck.

I used to think Diesel was the only way to go when towing my 14k fiver. Bought a used low mileage Ram 3500 4x with 4:10 rear. 31,000 mile, 8' bed Tradesman. $37,000 out the door. Tows great. Not like my Cummins but much higher Payload. Gas prices lower, maintenance cost lower, no DEF, no EGR, no DPF, no Turbo. Another issue with Diesel ; you pick up bad fuel which is common with Diesel, all repairs are on you, no warranty coverage. If you can deal with higher rpm and a little slower up long steep grades, gas works ok for my 6.4.

@JD-fo6gs

3 жыл бұрын

Everything positive you just said is the same for a diesel everything negative with diesel is the same with gas you get bad fuel with gas or diesel and as far as repairs it's no different with a gas engine and a diesel engine if you have a warranty that covers a engine and powertrain parts for a diesel may cost more but they're also harder to break Maintenance cost equals out to about the same you'll change the oil twice in a gas versus once in a diesel for around the same mileage at the end of the second oil change for the gas engine. Granted they are a few more filters to change in a diesel. I still love the Hemi though the 6.4 is a beast for a gas engine.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Good stuff 👍🏾

@M5verdriver

3 жыл бұрын

What year is your gas 3500? How many miles have you towed with it?

@daviddouglass7662

3 жыл бұрын

@@M5verdriver 2018. So far have towed about 1500 mile.

@mrrod3004

3 жыл бұрын

Gas is more then diesel where we live, delete arw super easy You buy a spare ecm and swap it in for warranty work so zero tune codes are flagged. The exhuast literally take 15mins to put back on. The diesel engine will last 500k+ without an overhaul. With a tune it won't even know it has a load. I can beat stock vechles with 10k pounds behind me funny seeing people who can't pass a trailer. Maintence is much less on the diesel its built way heavier duty and inless your working it constantly its cheaper in the long run. The emission systems are trash and that's what cause all there issues.

Beautiful truck!

Well JB, I think I have to say that this video helped settle one thing for me. I’ve got to get me a Ram 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi. I want a truck that has better payload and towing capabilities than my ‘18 F150 with the 2.7 Ecoboost. But I don’t have any need for a 1 ton and I do not need a diesel. The DEF problems that I have been seeing and just the maintenance costs as well as the up charge for diesel helped me to decide I don’t need one. Me and my wife is looking at getting a 5er at some point that has a dry unloaded weight of like 9,300 pounds. I’m sure a truck like this would do just fine to tow it every now and then. As well as make a decent daily driver to put to work every so often. I’m also trying to decide it I want the new F250 with the 7.3 V8 gas engine.

@Copper0608

Жыл бұрын

I was in the exact same boat. I had a 2018 F150 with the 2.7 and I traded up to a 2020 RAM 2500 Bighorn 6.4 with the 3.73 gears. Tows absolutely perfect and I use it as a daily. Truck is a beast.

Thanks for your videos buddy….

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!!

I have a 2021 mega cab hemi Laramie with 4.10 gears and 8 speed. 2500# payload, 16k towing. I pulled our travel trailer 400 miles this weekend. Hills, gusty winds, fully stock. It towed beautifully. 70 mph, all kinds of road surfaces. I did install the tpms sensors in the camper. My mpg was 7.5-8 towing, so that was less than the ecodiesel I had pulling the same camper. That got 11 mpg. Every temp was 30-40 degrees cooler than the 1500. Less sway and never seemed to be working hard to accelerate or maintain speed. The diesel is quieter. The gas engine and 8 speed was slowing me down very well on some grades with grade warnings.

@toddgibbs1321

3 жыл бұрын

That was my first towing with the truck. Under 5000 miles still.

Thank you seeing is believing 👍

I'm getting anxious, I hate to have more payments... but videos like this are pushing me in that direction. I need a bigger truck anyway don't really want the headaches associated with a diesel engine, although I understand the power and fuel differences realistically 90% of my towing is locally less than 200 mi whenever we do go out, as a daily driver this is a dope truck. My potna just got one as I type this today as a rental bc damage to his chevy 2500, backing up into a jackknife and damaged the truck towing a 5th rv...(Rookie) Keep dropping them, I'll keep watching them

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing bro, thinking about the diesel premium, it would take a lot of fuel to make up the difference and when you add DEF/maintenance to the mix, it makes more sense to get a gasser 👍🏾

@zacd7094

Жыл бұрын

I just sold my 19 f150 for a 20 Cummins what a difference!! I’ll never go back to gas. The torque is insane

Another great review - did I miss how much your trailer weighed 🍻

I've been looking for a truck to tow a 23' off-grid travel trailer for about 6 months now and just pulled the trigger on a low mile Level 2 2022 Power Wagon with the trailer towing technology package. My decision process was this: I initially considered diesel and talked to a friend at work who owns one. He said never get a diesel unless you plan on deleting it due to all the pollution crap they put on them such as the EGR valve, DPF filter, and the need for DEF. Another thing I considered was I wanted the most capable full-size 4X4 pickup truck available so the decision was made for me. The previous owner put a lot of professionally installed after-market stuff on it: light bar, air compressor, sliding rack for the box, throttle response controller, 37's, lift kit, and a bunch more. I went over the truck from top to bottom and it looks like the previous owner never had it off-road at all.

I’ve got a 2015 Ram 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi and 4.10 rear gearing. Towed an 8000 lb travel trailer without any hiccup. 102,000 trouble free miles. She is a beast!!

I think that if folks would put more genuine thought on what they really need the truck for as opposed to "I just want a diesel", more gassers may be purchased. Continual heavy pulling is a different story. With the issues surrounding aftertreatment on the Ram Cummins diesels being the majority of trouble codes, limp mode and out of service events, makes one consider the gassers even more as they have very little of that. BTW, I have a 3rd gen 5.9 Mega Cab since 2006 and before the EPA attack and wouldn't trade up to a aftertreatment Cummins until those issues are resolved which may never happen, who knows. Good video!!

I've had Chevrolet , Ford , Toyota and in my book the Ram is best towing . I've had them all in 1500, 2500 and 3500 .. I'm 61 now and I drive a 2020 Ram 5.7 Hemi with 321 gears and off road package .... I pull my camper ,it's 4200 lbs and my fifth wheel is 6900 lbs .. I use the 35 lbs anderson fifth wheel hitch and on my camper travel trailer I use the pro pride . If you would use a sway bar and weight bars you wouldn't have that sway and the 2500 Ram wouldn't drop in the rear . Just from my experience some helpful tips .

Next time - {if possible} - try to get one and do another test run, with the 4.10 anti spin rear axil and the air suspension. A 2022 Limited model with all of the bells and whistles - {OH YA} -. You have a great day JB.

Hi JB, It's been a while since I last viewed your videos. I too am impressed with this truck.. especially towing, also fuel usage! Thumbs up on ram's rear coil link suspension with superior ride comfort over leaf springs! Will contact shortly. Have good news for you.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Hey bro, it has been awhile, looking forward to the news 👍🏾

@pjasyl

3 жыл бұрын

@@JB_WhoWork Checking to see if you received my email on news? Sent when video ended. Liked those tires!

@pjasyl

3 жыл бұрын

@@JB_WhoWork Did you receive my news email sent to your phone a few days ago? Have not heard from you.

@pjasyl

3 жыл бұрын

@@JB_WhoWork Have not heard back as of today July 21st. Please provide email address so I can give you news on power wagon.

Great vid bro. I am a long time Cummins owner and just recently towed my siding trailer with a 6.4 hemi, which is about 8k lbs fully loaded and I was totally blown away by the power. Obviously the Cummins will always be the best for raw pulling power but I think I'm going to try a gasser.

@jamesorr2832

Жыл бұрын

I just traded my 2020 2500 Cummins for a 2022 Ram 6.4 Hemi I got tried of all the Diesel Emission problems with the Cummins, it was a never ending problem it was in the shop 3 months the last 9 months I owned it! I tow a 30FT TT that weighs 8 K loaded heavy it will not pull like the Cummins but its dependable and I'm not scared to go on a out of state trip with it. 6.4 with a 3.73 Gears pulls great.

@Mistro07

7 ай бұрын

@@jamesorr2832 my 2020 Cummins has no issues with emissions...and it never will...there are ways to fix them forever

Agreed… Over the past 20 years I have had the 12v Cummins, 24v Cummins, and 7.3 Powerstroke. 12v least power and by far most reliable. 7.3 pretty good overall, but very weak front end suspension and vac pump blew every couple thousand miles pulling over 10k. 24v Cummins, strongest by far, unreliable and expensive to constantly fight with. Sick and tired of the common rail electrical problems, fuel problems, sensor problems, cooling problems…. Just bought 2500 with 5.7 Hemi and 6 speed manual. We’ll see how it shakes out. I do know I can buy two more engines and countless gallons of gasoline for what I’ve wasted on repairs in the 3500 over the past 3 years. My trucks work…hard.

I got my 2021. 2500 Cummings Laramie and i love it

@Staki6908

3 жыл бұрын

Same just picked one up last week but a leveling kit and 35's on it. Traded in a Denali that they gave me $10k over what I paid for it. Really liked the Denali but this Cummins has way more power.

The only negative thing about the gas over diesel is not simply not having an exhaust brake. The whole towing experience is just better with the Cummins on anything over 10k pounds.

@Zeroflax

Жыл бұрын

that and the fuel mileage is MUCH better with a diesel. Gas jobs just aren't as efficient.

@jh748

Жыл бұрын

@@Zeroflax Yeah but how run a lot of miles to compensate for the $10k plus for a Cummins.

@T51B1

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Diesel will tow 14K at 70 down the interstate with the cruise on without much fuss even pulling long hills and while also having to brake very little because of the exhaust brake. The gas can pull 14K but it wont maintain 70 on hills, it will be shifting a lot, and the engine will be screaming at over 5K RPM.

Man JB that's a sweet truck. My 04 ram has been broken more than not here recently. I washed it yesterday and went to dry it off with a little drive and lost oil pressure. Wife's 02 grand has a broken frame evidently so yea I'm wanting a newer truck. Want basically that same truck. 6.4 hemi with 8spd. 373 or 410 as I live in North Carolina mountains. Thanks bro great vid as usual.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Wow that stinks, the new trucks have gotten a lot better in my opinion, thanks Mathew!

@mathewpennington7049

3 жыл бұрын

@@JB_WhoWork yes they have gotten better all except in price haha. I pull an open 18' landscape trailer with two 60" zeroturn mowers and my 50 dollar 04 ram with 4.7 just don't cut it lol. Screaming on hills and I built the motor 25,000 miles ago so no hard feelings towards this truck but I'm looking at a 2021 ram. I worked for Chrysler in Newark Delaware for over 8 years and love my dodges

Cool video. Thank you sir. My 2006 class A gasser has a two stage engine brake. So they can engineer it if there is a demand. I have a W22 Workhorse with a 8.1L V8.

@NavyAviationVeteranRVer

Жыл бұрын

AND, a 36 foot class a gets 12mpg. :)

Just ordered a BigHorn hemi with 4.10 and air suspension today. Can't wait...decided for a while between the hemi or cummin but can't justify the Cummins. I simply don't tow enough for a diesel and cost.

@JB_WhoWork

2 жыл бұрын

Good deal 👍🏾

Diesel wont be dead by 2030. It def wont be dead in really poor countries. The ships the bring the oil in from offshore are diesel. The machines that mine the lithium for batteries use diesel. Biodiesel plant is getting built in my state soon. Cummins is actually investing heavily in hydrogen so maybe that is the future? Electric cars wont completely take over until its cheap enough for people in poor countries to own them.

@TurboVisBits

3 жыл бұрын

They're actually not diesel. They use a fuel called bunker oil which is basically like sludge.

Love my diesel.

god vid Thank you

👍 good videos JB, any way you can do some comparisons with crew cab long beds? Was told great for towing?

If you have the tow haul on the transmission will do grade shifting on the way down once you hit the brakes one time.

@mrrod3004

3 жыл бұрын

It's automatic with gm once tow hauls activated. But you can't beat the exguast brake of the cummins. I come threw town with 15k load and dont even touch my brakes.

Back when I had a 2014 2500 6.4 hemi with the rear coil springs, I always felt it didn’t squat as much as a 3500 with leafs. I have no measurements to back that up, just eyeballing it!

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

You are right, leafs do seem to squat a little more lol

@fivesfilms

3 жыл бұрын

JB, I just ordered a 2022 SRW. Trading in the dually. Just not liking it. I saw a white 3500 Limited Mega Cab while I was there that someone was test driving. I said to myself, “there goes the JB truck!” 😂

I pull the Colorado mountains for me if it has to ride in the semi truck lane up Eisenhower it's poop . My total gross is 19k ish .I run 35 mud terrains on a 3 inch lift stock 3.73 gears 68rfe I can still pull Eisenhower eastbound steep side at 65 mph ... my truck is now 12 years old has 199, 998k on it . What I usually see on the mountain grades with similar gross is a truck with 4 ways on with semi trucks with gas powered vehicles.

Good stuff JB 👍 Still need to see a back to back comparison of the 3.73 vs 4.10. Gas or diesel honestly

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dennis, it's really tough now that there's no inventory...

Diesels will never die

@dudejo

2 жыл бұрын

just as long as we don't get another Oldsmobile 5.7

2022 , 3500 ,dually ,gas ,4::10, air suspension. Ordered it 2 weeks ago. Can’t wait. Options are WAY DIFFERENT this year for the tradesman.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome!

@danielmiller231

2 жыл бұрын

Any word on your build yet. I ordered mine sat..

@thomaschambers157

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielmiller231 not yet. Hoping to hear something. Anything. Soon

@danielmiller231

2 жыл бұрын

I ordered just the 2500 in 4.10 6.4l hoping for the 8 to 12 weeks

@thomaschambers157

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielmiller231 they told me 10 weeks. We will see. If it comes early I will notify you. It won’t hurt my feelings if it’s early.

The value in the diesels is undeniable as the miles rack up. Gas are a great option for a lot of people who dont tow heavy/often enough to justify the cost. Diesels are for the guy planning on keeping the truck long term, a diesel is just hitting its stride when the gas needs a new motor. All things being equal maintainance upkeep wise.

@mick2798

3 жыл бұрын

What you said used to be true about diesels that they were just hitting their stride when gassers started to need repairs… Emissions completely turned that around. Gassers are still going when Emissions screw up the diesel and they need repairs. Diesels are still the best for towing heavy but that’s emissions just kills these trucks. But that 7.3 gasser is given them a good run for their money

@SketchyXC

3 жыл бұрын

@@mick2798 youre not wrong there. that 7.3 has me looking into the gas option next time around.

@mick2798

3 жыл бұрын

@Nate Upson yea a brand new 7.3 crate motor only runs about $7500 where as if the CP4 fuel pump goes out it can cost upwards of $15,000 to fix. Plus the 7.3 gasser will tow about 90% of what the diesel owners are towing anyways

@SketchyXC

3 жыл бұрын

Gasser issues definitely seem to be easier to absorb. And that CP4 timebomb has me paranoid, i cant afford that happening.

As soon as I get one with the max towing package I let you use it for a towing test your ram 1500 5.7 hemi vs my 3.5 ECOBOOST towing a fishing boat and you can tow the boat with your truck and I can tow your enclosed trailer to see the difference in towing

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

🤝

I'd go crazy listening to that thing scream at 5000+ rpm every time I hit a big hill.

@johnhighland4781

3 жыл бұрын

I did! Made the switch to a HO Cummins and zero regrets

@dalemllns

3 жыл бұрын

The ECM is actually programmed to reduce engine rpm to 4500 if any overheating issues arise. Gas engines are designed to Rev higher, what the difference than hearing at diesel revving at 3500 close to ita recline? I pull 12k lbs of camper with my 6.4L 2500 all the time. Zero issues. But I'm a Hemi tech and really love these engines. With proper maintenance, they will outlive a lot more than they are given credit for. This dude was running 80 mph doing this. While it will do it, itll do 55-65 with less work just fine.

@beaus3472

3 жыл бұрын

@@dalemllns Diesels don't sit at 3500 rpm, more like 2600 at max effort (except for maybe the 3.0l diesels). Plus, they brake far better on the downhills. Maybe not big deals if you live and tow in flatter regions.

@jnk26

3 жыл бұрын

@@beaus3472 a diesel will do twice the work with 1/4 the fuel. The 900lbft+ at 1600rpm will always be easier on the ears and wallet than a 5000rpm wear fest in any gas engine. Poor engine taking that kind of abuse.

@jnk26

3 жыл бұрын

@@hahaadventures4838 well a V8 screaming up a hill at 5000rpm will be getting 2.5mpg so 1/4 the fuel is about 10mpg. On flat ground. Fuel usage goes up with rpm. 8 cylinders spinning 5000 times a minute is 20,000(5000rpm ÷ 2 =2500 shots per cylinder × 8 cylinders) shots of fuel per minute. A Cummins cruising along at 1700 is 5100 shots (1700 ÷ 2 = 850 shots cylinder × 6 cylinders) so the math is not far off either. The cummins going up hill isn't kicking back to 5000rpm where the 380ish hp(400ish lbft) is half the capability of the cummins at any speed(1600-2800rpm) the HO Cummins with 930lbft. Is pushing that til about 2100 then the torque starts to fall back up to the 2800rpm mark(385hp@2800rpm = 722lbft) what you are getting for your 5100 shots of fuel is twice the capability of the 20,000 shots in the gasser. Not failing to mention the pumping losses, way more friction, and wear. 5000 miles at 5000rpm will wipe out a gas motor quick. Where the diesel will live at 17-1900rpm for years and years.

Not bad at all. I would go with 3.92 gears though. But, for the cost savings off of MSRP. Might have to consider the 6.4 Hemi.

@noosh8316

3 жыл бұрын

only gear options for a Hemi 2500 are either 3.73 or 4.10

@chriswebb7521

3 жыл бұрын

@@noosh8316 Ah, 4.10 it is then.

I have a '15 Ram 1500. 8-speed, 321s. I prolly tow and drive as much as you. Flat ground, empty 7x16 enclosed, I'll get 11.5mpgs at 70mph (at 7800#). Fully loaded TV and trailer (11,500) 9.8mpgs. When I hook up my 30' Travel Trailer, 8mpgs. If you're towing, diesel is the ONLY option.

Do a review of the Ford 7.3 with 4:30’s

I've been watching some of your videos and I like what you're doing. It would be helpful to know the full weight of the trailer and tongue weight.

@JB_WhoWork

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/h36To66jisXgYKg.html

I can't believe the way you did this video. try towing that trailer up that hill at 60 mph and watch it struggle. i would love to see an accurate test like on tfl. i didn't notice the weight of the trailer. i had a 2016 ram 2500 with 3.73 gears and i bought a diesel 6 months later. The towing i did was on the bald ass praries with a 7700 lbs and it sucked. Oh by the way im a ram guy. gotta love the typing.Lol

My dad wanted a truck just like this but got a diesel and we went up a hill in the diesel and he said man my hemi did better than the diesel did

Love what you’re doing! Any plans to tow with the 7.3? I chose that over the diesel and I’m loving it.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks William, I’m hoping one will come available soon!

@myront.miller6868

3 жыл бұрын

The Godzilla? I’m in the market and have been thinking on a few options. Currently have a 2020 Power Wagon. Love the truck but the payload is not enough for us now that we have a travel trailer. It tows great otherwise. Currently in Florida from Michigan. And headed back tomorrow. It’s greedy, which I’m sure that 7.3 is as well.

I'll keep my 06 mega cab cummins. My mpg tune could haul that trailer

I can hear it just sucking down fuel like crazy when she was going uphill at 5k rpm. I feel they are always have and always will be between gears. Always pinned to the top or way too down in the rpm range

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

It did pretty good with shifting I thought

Have the fixed the issues with cam bearings? Seems like lots of engine failures @ around 60K miles from bad cam bearings.

I bought a ‘21 6.4 Big Horn 2500 in April mainly so I can start towing an enclosed car trailer. I haven’t got to tow yet, but watching this video got me excited about towing with my new truck!! I’m buying a hitch soon, do you see any advantage in getting a load leveling/anti sway hitch for towing a 24 or 28 foot enclosed trailer, or is something like you used in this test drive ok? Great videos, keep em coming!

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! My trailer has spread axles and I think this really helps with overall control but I think the HD trucks tow extremely well without any additional help. If you’re towing under 10k I would skip it for HD trucks 👍🏾

@bradschroeder809

3 жыл бұрын

Great, thanks!

@dewboy13

3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2019 Laramie, with the 6.4. I've towed the max (14,500lbs) my truck is rated at (maybe a little more). I've never used wdh on mine, and it's been fantastic. The one time I did try a wdh hitch was with a 27 ft travel trailer, but I ended up disconnecting all of it. It wasn't needed, and I was hoping the trailer tounge with drop more, but it didn't. The trucks are wonderful to tow with. Unless you're towing really heavy, I wouldn't bother with wdh. Your call though. Just invest in a decent hitch that can take the weight. I went with a weigh safe hitch, the one that has the little scale on it for tounge weight, only because I dislike the look of the hitches with both the balls on them. The hitch I have is super easy to swap the ball sizes with no tools, and it's rated at 14,500 lbs, same as the trucks tow rating.

Hey JB, you should come to Ohio and do a review of my truck. It’s a 2021 Ram 2500 crew cab BigHorn 6.4 Hemi with 4.10 gears. Fully loaded with every option.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

How far do you live off of I-70?

@brianbenyak9673

3 жыл бұрын

@@JB_WhoWork I-70 is about 90 miles from me.

I will say this the 2020 just went down with a def pump at work.... #900 in line for a new one in the midwest sector. Could be months before a new one arrives.

@JB_WhoWork

2 жыл бұрын

😳

@JB_WhoWork

2 жыл бұрын

Should be a free pass to delete

@rollingacresfarmstead206

2 жыл бұрын

@@JB_WhoWork thats what I told them 😆 I know of 2 Denali's as well 4 weeks minimum for those

Hey JB, appreciate your content. Am looking to order in the near future and debating gasser or Diesel and which D if I go that way. Looking at a single rear wheel 3500 Limited Longhorn. Current needs (TT) any 2500 would meet, heck, my old 1500 rust bucket does, but dream future (5th wheel) would need 2500lb of payload and 15k, maybe more towing, so might as well go 3500 to cover all the bases. Any input you, or the community can give I'd appreciate.

@GrizzlyDaveCowboy

2 жыл бұрын

FYI, I live in Colorado, and would be towing over the great divide....so that exhaust brake is hard to ignore.... c'mon JB, I want to hear what you have to say! :D

I have the same truck in a Laramie trim. Towed my grand design imagine 3000qb this weekend. My first tow with it. Average 9.5 mpg. Stock tires. No lift. I’ve been averaging 14.5 mpg daily driving to work.

They've kept this same engine and it's specs ever since it was first made for the ram in like 2012. Ford has come out with the 7.3 big blok. Dodge should use this opportunity to use the hellepant's 7 liter aluminum hemi, make it NA, tune it for tq, and pump out 450 hp and 500 tq. Since it will be for trucks, it doesnt have to comply with emission standards. Not saying the current 6.4 is bad. But im just saying they can do better. 410 hp and 429 tq out of 6.4 liters is just inadequate and is very close to the 345 hemi's rated numbers for ram

Could you do a comparison with a 2020 F250. The suspension changed from 2016/17 models to the 2020 and it’s not a fair comparison. Thanks for this video though. I am still trying to make up my mind on either a 2020 Ford F-250 Lariat Tremor or a RAM 2500 Laramie with the 4x4 off road package, NOT the power wagon.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully someone will trade one in soon, thanks!

I had an earlier hemi and hated that the rpms have to be at 4800 to hit the power band. Noting like a diesel that chugs along with 2200 runs. Ford was really smart and came out with a 7.3 big block. That would be a little better

@stevebeck9470

6 ай бұрын

Looking to change my tow rig to a gas Ram , currently tow a 6200 lb machine and trailer combo with my 2009 Audi Q7 4.2 tdi done 60k miles with it and looking for something more reliable she runs at 1400 rpm in 6th at 55 mph. Get 14mpg when towing total car and trailer weight is 12,400 lbs . I am in France and can run on E85 at half the gas or diesel price. Currently spend $10,000 a year on fuel

Have been wanting a ram 2500 with the cummins for about 8 months now but now am convinced on the hemi... could you message me if that's okay, I'd like your opinion

Got my 2022 Laramie coming in next month ( same color ) and want to change the tires. What size are those?

I had a 2017 Powerwagon and it struggled to pull a camper and made 8 miles to the gallon

Can you do a video on a 2021 Ford F-150 with the 3.5 ECOBOOST and max towing package tow test

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

I would love to do this test but I can only tow with used trucks which makes it hard unless someone lets me do the test with their truck. I will at least put a feeler out there 👍🏾

@Ratridez

3 жыл бұрын

Yes , I should make a video of the 3.5 ecoboost trucks that come to my shop with burnt valves

Oh, it's gas! Makes sense

That motor was screaming when going up hill. Was not quit in my opinion. 5 to 6k on the rpms is to high for me at 75 going up hill. I had the 6.4 hemi and was not impressed towing a 5k boat.

Hey JB Reviews, any word if Ram HD Cummins are going with an Allison Transmission in the near future? Keep hearing rumor after rumor. Thanks!

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure but my guess is them but Eaton wouldn't be a bad one...

Yes #RamTough

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

💯

What gas truck u like better ram or your chevy with blue interior?

I think ram would do good to up the displacement on there gas motor. Maybe the same bore but longer stroke pistons. Might help get more torque at lower rpm

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

I agree and I hope they do this to compete with Ford/GM

@k.c.marshall921

2 жыл бұрын

"Their".

@toofastnobrakes

2 жыл бұрын

@@k.c.marshall921 congratulations! you spotted a minor spelling error! You must be extremely talented and have so much to do with your time. 😃

@k.c.marshall921

2 жыл бұрын

@@toofastnobrakes Thank you!! And yes i have soooo much to do with my time!! Like spotting grammatically incorrect errors like yours!! Have a great day!!

My dad towed a 13,000 pound rev bumper bull with a 2014 ram 1500 and he went up a 7 percent grade and blew the motor up like caught on fire

@kyptendunn8385

2 жыл бұрын

Almost caught on fire

Good video. I would definitely pick this over the Ford on looks alone. I really dislike the Fords. I think you nailed it on the mpg. It’s 100% the tires. Those are a lot bigger than factory size. As far as performance the acceleration was good. I’m a little surprised at the squat. Now I know you don’t exactly know your tongue weight and I also don’t exactly know mine but I would bet they are similar seeing as how I have a 520 Foreman pulled all the way to the front of my trailer. But my point is my 1500 squats 2.75 with my trailer. That Ram squatted 2.5. I was thinking the HDs would stay closer to 2”. Not bad though by any means.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Yea the coil spring suspension does squat more than the leaf springs on the 3500’s but the fix is the air suspension. That’s not bad at all for the 1500, you using WDH?

@matthewanderson9912

3 жыл бұрын

No. Just a B&W tow and stow. I’ve thought about getting a WDH but I really don’t have any sway and mainly too I never have to get on an Interstate. My max speed is between 60-65 mph. I’ve thought about getting air bags too but I don’t know if I will still have the truck this time next year so I don’t want to put much into it. I will say it definitely looks squatted with my trailer but it has very minimal rake from the factory. That Ram in this video wouldn’t have even looked squatted without the level kit. I was impressed with it for sure. I figured the 8 speed would help because it tremendously has helped the 5.3s in the 1500s

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewanderson9912 from what I experienced with a bigger/heavier trailer, the 1500 Silverado’s do pretty dang good without a WDH although the squat is a little more than I would like but you don’t seem to lose steering feel 👍🏾

@matthewanderson9912

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s one of the reasons I didn’t care to go back with a 1500. Had good past experience with my 2016 and then watching your videos with your 28 footer really eased my mind. I’m still going to go back to a 2500 eventually though. I can’t promise it will be a diesel though. Definitely won’t if the rebates don’t come back 😂

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Diesel is here to stay. Unfortunately the country will need to suffer through a generation of terrible electric vehicles before sanity returns. The environmental wackos have no actual concept of how bad for the environment lithium batteries are. None. Once they catch on, we will be listening to that epic reversal for a decade.

@mrrod3004

3 жыл бұрын

Wether you like it or not eletric will be the future. Once we learn to harness and collect power more efficient it will take over. Eletric motors have so much torq they don't even need transmissions, they will out pull a diesel anyday. There have been combination vechles made with all eletric motors ran by a diesel generator. Pretty neat I suggest looking it up. I think hybrids should be more of our focus then all eletric. But yes batteries have terrible emissions. But the world heals itself faster then we are destroying it despite what you may see on the news. We have more Forrest and trees today then we did 100 years ago. I own a business in Forrest restoration, we work directly with coal mines. They replant 10 times what they destroyed and keep it maintained and under protection for animal sanctuaries.

@craigleidigjr4170

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget life span of a battery. Replacement right now could run $8,000-15,000 thousand

@mrrod3004

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigleidigjr4170 there not that high any.ore and toyota are getting well over 500k mile life spans from there hybrid batteries, more then most gas engines lifes.

@craigleidigjr4170

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrrod3004 new Ford MachE is high I was pricing it.

@mrrod3004

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigleidigjr4170 close to same price I paid for my rav4 prime. Pretty funny my crossover leaves corvettes and gas mustangs. But I'm getting average 43mpg and I can put it into fully eletric mode

Gas is getting better but it's still not in the same ballpark as diesel.

I must have missed it on your video, but how much were you towing??

Do u have a video where u elaborate on setting up the trailer gain?

@JB_WhoWork

2 жыл бұрын

No but I can do a video on this 👍🏾

What are picking. 6.4 or the 6.2?

What are you do with my truck?! 🙂 That same paint color with the night package and same black rims.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Nice, all you need now is the tires and you will be in business 👍🏾

Government overreach is ruining diesel trucks.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

💯

@LoneWolfPine

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly true 😡

That's a beautiful truck. Whats the threshold to go to heavy electric as far as weight?

@tumbleweedking5668

3 жыл бұрын

@@JB_WhoWork I use the heavy setting on my 1500 with 6500 lb rv about 4 gain.

@JB_WhoWork

3 жыл бұрын

Disregard my last post, I’m not too sure on this one

@petric334

3 жыл бұрын

Manual says 10klbs

I think in time it will be down to diesel and electric. Sadly with the government the way it is I see gas going away but the need for diesel, is too great to go away. But that's just me.

Gas is gas, requires high quality maintenance in order to have high quality results with no problem. Having mentality that I can beat on gas truck with just OK factory recommended intervals then problem are not far from you. 6.4 hemi used engine is very expensive, same price as used cummins.

Nice! But damn 80 towing is not smart man.

Diesel was a hard sell back in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. I wholly credit Dodge for establishing the diesel truck market in the early 90s. For many people then, the gas was a better option. It appears things have come full circle.

@dudejo

2 жыл бұрын

Diesels, back then, just weren't there, yet. They were heavy as hell for the power they produced. For example, a Detroit Diesel 3-53 engine generated 70 hp on average and weighted almost 1,000 lbs. The original Cummins 5.9 engine from the older Dodge Ram generated 160 hp for the same engine weight. Much better but still relatively weak. Then General Motors came out with the pile of shit that was the Oldsmobile 5.7