9:59 - on high end scopes you can turn off the "digital phosphor" if you don't want to see intricate signal distribution (or simply use single capture with deep memory). But on Hantek you don't have this option and oblidged to spend hours to see rare event.

Love your products, thanks for the recommendations 😊

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad it was useful

I like the video. Will the software for the Hantek or the Picoscope do data logging? and if so for how long?

Nice ❤.

For a computer monitor oscilloscope screen a white background is much better as you can obviously see between the Pico and the Hantek. The workbench room lighting washes out the Hantek display. On a computer typing text on a white background is much easier to see. You know how difficult it is to read the text on a Command Prompt (CMD) screen.

Just a heads up, but there's actually an open source version of that Hantenk software out there. Haven't used it myself, but from what I understand it's quite a bit better than the standard software.

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

Awesome. I'll have to check that out

@Finakechi

Жыл бұрын

@@RetroSix Pretty sure it's just called OpenHantek or something like that.

@TheRealHarrypm

3 ай бұрын

@@RetroSix We have actually modifyed them to now do continous direct stream at 30msps making it ideal for cvbs RF capture for cvbs-decode or FM RF capture for vhs-decode etc

It would have been nice to have links to the products.

Thanks for the review. So, is this £66 scope, a good choice for repairing/diagnose game gears ?

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

Yep it's very close to on par with the £120 PicoScope

Did you make a decision on whether you wanted to tey your hand at a better UI for the Hantek software?

@RetroSix

4 ай бұрын

Never had time yet I got super busy with my RetroSix business for last 12 months

Did you go through with making a new UI for the hantek? If you did I’d buy a computer one.

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

Not yet no but someone commented there is already some good UI for it I think it's commented in here

You are using your bench scopes wrong.This "frame merging" emulates the way analog scopes worked (due to phosphor in the oscilloscope tube fading much more slowly), and is fully adjustable. It's a major feature for dealing with analog signals, as it shows all kinds of glitches and is key to properly show AM signals. I suggest looking into display settings in your other scopes. I suspect that Hantek scope also can do that, but due to poor quality they didn't turned it on by default... Also could you add to the description the models of the scopes shown?

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

It's not using it wrong if it prevents you seeing low partially broken traces signals for example and glitches. Frame blending should be an option to turn off as it makes the scopes useless for almost all purposes of diagnostics. I've done countless videos showing fixing consoles by seeing a clear frame that you cannot see with blending on

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

I can list them later have quite a few but will list the main ones

@urgon6321

Жыл бұрын

Persistence/intensity grading is an option, usually in Display menu of most DSOs. You can turn it on and off. Also most DSOs, even cheap ones, have quite a few triggering options for finding glitches. For example instead of edge triggering for that video signal you could use Video trigger (for both PAL and NTSC). Runt triggering or window triggering would let you trigger on signals that are between two trigger levels. With window triggering you also can specify how long signal has to stay between levels for trigger. These advanced options usually are not available on cheap PC scopes. As for list of scopes I meant the three shown in the video, especially bench one, as you didn't say its model number...

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

My PC scope is £6k and doesn't do the blending. The glitches are not viewable on any trigger mode if overlaid. For example a data line driven on a game gear is a slow ramp if not drive and fast ramp if driven at wrong time. Easily viewable on PC scopes and impossible to see on ones with the mushy mess. I just don't see any point ever of an overlaid mess of historical signals it tells you nothing about the signal. I get where your coming from but doesn't work for how I find problems

@urgon6321

Жыл бұрын

@@RetroSix, for that example all you need is "slope trigger". You set up low and high levels for your signal and then set the minimum and maximum rise (or fall) time for the slope to trigger. Check a video tutorial below: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c2utk9upkbiqh6Q.html As you can see, slope triggering would solve your problem in a pinch. Set the limits you are expecting for a bad line, set mode to single and touch all your address and data lines one after another. Bad one would trigger the scope. All cheap bench scopes can do this, and much, much more. Check reviews of cheap Rigol, Owon and Siglent scopes by Dave Jones from EEVBlog channel. In these he shows all the advanced functions and explains them using various test signals...

I just purchased it on Amazon for $67 shipped. Should be here tomorrow.

[Having a very hard time understanding what you're saying with the microphone you're using.]

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

It was a faulty audio lead going back to the recorder. Since fixed it

For Macbook repairs is the HANTEK 6022BE a good option?

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

Sure. It will show you signals from SSD, eMMC and so on. You won't see the exact data due to speed but it's enough to see if you actually have signals which will be the main important thing

I had a hantek bench top scope and to be honnest it was a pile of junk. Did the same test on both channels and channel two give a totally different reading to Chanel one plus Chanel 2 you could never get a good square wave without rounded corners or spikes.

@BenjiShock

7 ай бұрын

Did you use the same probe on both channels? It could be you just didnt adjust the capacitance of one of the probes. Typically you use a test square wave and then you have a screw directly at the probe which adjusts the capacitance. You adjust it until you have a nice and rectangular square wave. Maybe you are already aware of this procedure just writing this in case you didnt know.

@christophersmith-zn2kn

7 ай бұрын

@@BenjiShock I used the same probe for both channels, it held a square wave on the one channel but when I plugged the probe into the other channel it was a different story. I even tried adjusting the probe and used a different probe I just got rounded corners. Apparently lots of people have had the same issue. In the end I got shot of the thing.

Are you still doing free repairs if you do a video on them ? If so I have an Atari Lynx Model 2 with a power fault. Turns on then off apparently.

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

Yep

@RBKing80

Жыл бұрын

@@RetroSix Any chance of sending my Lynx 2 in for you to work on ?

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

Sure just send it in with all the info and return address

@RBKing80

Жыл бұрын

@@RetroSix Just need me to put a note in saying free repair or something. I'll sort it. Cheers

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

Details of issue. Mention it's for KZread repair. And return address

The squishy mess of which you complain can be changed in the settings of most 'scopes to show a clean shot.

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

It can't. I have 6 scope variants, all brands and types, and no options clean up to how absolutely nothing but the single shot but with constant running. I'd love to be shown it actually doing that though as many say it can, yet I've never seen anyone show that working. It's only clean when paused or it still shows some faint overlay

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

I've got Tektronix, Rigol, Hantek, Fluke, Owon. None can display it as clear as PicoScope. Hantek gets close and I'd say useable. The expensive brands however don't have any way to turn off the mess

@MichaelKingsfordGray

Жыл бұрын

@@RetroSix Keysight and Agilent scopes certainly can.

@RetroSix

Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelKingsfordGray Any recommended Keysight? I've always wanted to grab one of those

@MichaelKingsfordGray

Жыл бұрын

@@RetroSix The Infinivision series is the "Rolls-Royce" of 'scopes.

I found using the hantek with hscope app on Android is amazing, not to mention it's completely portable. The pc software offered by hantek is absolutely useless.

i don't know, maybe dso 138? aliexpress?

@ivolol

10 ай бұрын

There's better models than that now, although it is super duper cheapo. That can only go to 100khz though, so good for audio work