How Fire-Safe Are Composite Aircraft Like The Airbus A350?
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The safe evacuation of every passenger and crew onboard Japan Airlines Flight JL516 that collided with a smaller aircraft type at Tokyo Haneda Airport on Tuesday, January 2nd was nothing less than a miraculous escape. The well-circulated footage of the Airbus A350 burning down to not much more than its wings is horrifying. Let’s examine the characteristics of composite aircraft when it comes to fires…
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It obviously did well enough. But the discipline of crew and passengers cannot be understated in this context.
@lizhongshen
4 ай бұрын
nah, they spent 18 minutes to get all people out, while industry standard is 90 seconds. every airline can evacuate entire plane in 18 minutes, it has nothing to do with so called "discipline of crew and passengers"
@BigWhoopZH
4 ай бұрын
@@lizhongshen The evacuation didn't take 18 minutes, it completed 18 minutes after landing. Also 90 seconds are standard for all exits available, but only 50% were.
@AZzmi_
4 ай бұрын
@@lizhongshenbro doesn't know the actual details 🤡
@lizhongshen
4 ай бұрын
@@BigWhoopZH doesn't affect my conclusion: this evacuation has nothing to do with "the discipline of crew and passengers"
@Biggunkief
4 ай бұрын
@@BigWhoopZH90s applies to 50% of the exits available.
Respect for the A350
It should not be forgotten that in the JAL flight, it took far longer than 90 seconds to evacuate the aeroplane - around 18 minutes. The A350 fuselage held the fire at bay for at least that time with minimal smoke. Compare this with the 737 fire at Manchester many years ago.
@thomasnelson5010
4 ай бұрын
Exactly! The news keeps quoted this 90 seconds to evac while leaving out that cabin crew made them wait 18 minutes before doing so.
@kuebbisch
4 ай бұрын
@@thomasnelson5010 That is also wrong: The evacuation was initiated about 7 minutes after touchdown and after 18 minutes the last cabin and flight crew left the aircraft after having searched the cabin for passengers that may need help or were incapacitated by the accident and could not evacuate on their own. The majority of passengers left within about 2-3 minutes after the evacuation was started.
@theharper1
4 ай бұрын
@@kuebbisch thank you for providing clarification. People repeating the 18 minute figure are completely misrepresenting what happened.
@thomasnelson5010
4 ай бұрын
@@kuebbisch Thank You! Sorry about that. You are correct. Every news organization was quoting the 18 minutes. It was 18 minutes from touchdown to complete evacuation of passengers/crew.
Nicely researched video
Finally, someone talk about composite airplane materials. Is it fire resistance better yet fire proof.
Interesting!!!!! I love Airbus planes 💙💙💙💙
I read somewhere that the 787 could not have held up that long because the fuselage was made of epoxy composite. Can someone please enlighten me?
@Greatdome99
4 ай бұрын
Graphite ribbons immersed in epoxy resin (the binder). Pretty standard stuff.
@thabotshabalala7114
4 ай бұрын
Am not surprised..
@CoSmicGoesRacing
4 ай бұрын
@@Greatdome99exactly. Whether that be automobile or aircraft applications, most carbon fiber composites are made in this way.
@tonamg53
4 ай бұрын
The 787 with batteries fire early in its career were pretty smokey… but I’m not sure whether it was just smoke from batteries or did it spread to parts of the fuselage…
Why is the question being raised now with respect to the A350 when the B787 has been on the market for 15 years?
That still running damaged engine with passengers evacuating should be probably of more concern
@Tavarish21
4 ай бұрын
There’s a good chance they were not able to shut them down if certain components were damaged
@CP-zi3eg
4 ай бұрын
Agree, but it's not clear if passengers and crew members were aware of the risks they were taking moving close in front of that big "vacuum cleaner".
I would like to know the origin of the fires inside the cabin. The firemen arrived soon so I understand that measures were taken to extinguish the initial "exterior" damages.
@MrCaiobrz
4 ай бұрын
The fuel was not only leaking, it was gushing out the fuel tanks, the fire burned for 4 hours straight, the firefighters job was just to keep the fire contained. There was no way the aircraft would resist 4h of jet fuel fire under its belly.
Delighted with all lives saved. But how come all the fire trucks could not put out the fire ?.
@redwithblackstripes
4 ай бұрын
Keep in mind they were two aircrafts on fire so the firefighter had to split the effort.
Obviously it's perfectly safe.
Please say again : "for todayyyyy's video", this is your trademark 🙂
What about the toxic releases of the resin
@Burzilman
4 ай бұрын
It's still better than aluminium when it becomes fuel itself and emits toxic fumes.
@josh3771
4 ай бұрын
Don’t stand downwind of burning aircraft
Not. You would have to remove the fuel before they would be somewhat fire safe. Composite material burn too, and very hot and very toxic.
so thats all good but what happened to the plane it melted.?
@filledwithvariousknowledge2747
4 ай бұрын
Destroyed
@TheDoubleace191
4 ай бұрын
Write off
@vipvip-tf9rw
4 ай бұрын
all planes are melting in fire, except wooden, they just burn
@danharold3087
4 ай бұрын
@@vipvip-tf9rw The magnum bits burn.
@manface43
4 ай бұрын
Written off and replaced by its sister
Aluminium burns very well, also colaps very fast when it heats up
Pretty much the whole plane melted. There's was nothing left other than the wings!!
Nome of that happened.
Airbus 🇪🇺💪🏻
If they had decided to go Aluminum-Lithium it probably would have cost lives.
Remember to add that not having rivets gives the plane better aerodynamics and increases efficiency
If this happened with american passengers, the outcome wouldn't be the same! Most americans aren't disciplined.
@aletoro58
4 ай бұрын
Figure if they were italians!
@jeffssaunders
4 ай бұрын
Seriously dude....
@portcybertryx222
4 ай бұрын
What? Who gave you that idea. Ever heard of the miracle on the Hudson? Don’t let your view be warped by mass media. When it comes to emergencies most people on flight by now are well versed on what to do.
wow a350 is safest aircraft
@Perich29
4 ай бұрын
If it's not Airbus, I ain't going.
@LucaPed94
4 ай бұрын
@@Perich29 wow you failed at that.... that's not how the saying goes. It's "if it's Boeing, I ain't going"... Boeing and going rhyme
@danharold3087
4 ай бұрын
The most crucial safety element is the crew regardless of what plane you are flying.
Although all of the passengers and crew of JAL516 have survived in this runway accident, i am pretty sad that A350 has to sacrifice her life to save the passengers and crew.
@vipvip-tf9rw
4 ай бұрын
and you aren't sad about dash8 crew?
@nurrizadjatmiko21
4 ай бұрын
@@vipvip-tf9rw only the captain has survived in the dash8
@pauljensen5699
4 ай бұрын
Better the plane than the people. Or in other words, what it was engineered to do.
@manface43
4 ай бұрын
Dash 8 died and its 5 crew too, it was smaller than the A350 so makes sense it got annihilated.
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my guess is that if this was am American carrier full of American passengers... the results would not have been the same... just saying...