VIVE LA BAGUETTE 🥖 !!! 🇫🇷

As a racer on both two and four wheels and an instructor watching your videos. Good effort. You boys can peddle, it’s refreshing to see 👍👍

Brands hatch with a bit of lift off oversteer - cheered me right up on a boring Sunday.

Would love to try a track day but my Golf is far too slow. 0-60 is measured by a calendar

@geewhite32

3 жыл бұрын

Do it Doctor, I had a CBX1000 back in the late 80's and my friend and I got a wee shot of two Honda Melody's....50cc scooters. We raced them around our town at 30mph and had a great hoot, we laughed and laughed, well you get the idea. Its about what you are on, not what others can do. Go for it. you will love it. Gee.

Awesome stuff as always! Loved the laughs from 306 (probably co-driver's?) xD

Brilliant video lads, looks like you had a blast!

I don't know whats better.. the driving or the laughter

That baguette has mustard in it for sure 🤣

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Probably the Dijon variety.

@antonin3715

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion I'm actually living near from Dijon ;)

Can't get enough of yore onboards! You know how to have fun.

Wish my stock 1.2 Clio was that quick 😂

@206power

4 жыл бұрын

The 1.2 16v engine is really good. Well prepared it can surprise 😉

@onelyone6976

3 жыл бұрын

You’ve got a solid engine in a very light and capable platform, just a bit of handling upgrades and your clio will be an absolute hoot. Sure it won’t be fast, but what’s more fun than revving it to the limiter and still be nowhere near the speed limit?

@MrMoss786

Жыл бұрын

Mine too

I love these guys. They literally drive the piss out of their cars. A true blessing to behold

Brilliant driving lads and still pissing yourselves laughing.... Love it.

Glad I got recommended this channel amazing driving

Your laughing is infectious, it gets me laughing along with you every time! :D

Some incredible driving!! Well done great video

Great driving and it's awesome to see a 306 gti6 on a track, where it belongs alongside a rs clio :)

Top video, nice to see relatively simple machinery maxed out! Generally quite the opposite. Fun to watch and the 306 looks so good to drive!

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Laurie Eggins 🙌🏻 The 306 is a real gem to drive 🔥

Another great video love your footwork!

5.01 damnnnnn man the control! Love that!

Nice driving, thank you for the video

Always an entertaining video from you guys 💥. Your music choice to match the in car footage from the 172 was genius. Although the 172 was quicker, the action in the car was a lot less frenetic which made it look slower. If you ever want to post up more videos, build videos would go down very well 👍

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Phil, glad you enjoyed it! The 172 surprised us with its pace so Matt was having to extract every bit of performance from the 306. Will bear in mind the build vids 👍

I love your Videos....Its nice to see the Frontwheeldrive drifting

Great videos as always. Need to sub :). Owned 8 or so clios over the years, great fun

So good and funny driving boys,nice video

Guys you are very good! Thank you.This is like Japanese bestmotoring. I love it.

Nice... :) But, when I read "replace the old Clio 197..." I wasn't expecting "...for an even older Clio" XD But very fun driving

great car control Fella , enjoyed that

wow! Surprising how much quicker the 172 is compared with the 197! I never imagined that. You boys can drive!

@bobfranks6445

5 жыл бұрын

No 197 had anywhere near 197 ps let alone 197 bhp. Some Clio 172 had near 172, some didn't. Plus extra weight of 197. For reference, my cousin's 197 made 174 bhp at a Clio RR day and his friends, with filter and zorst mods made 180.

@Leesmithmk2

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobfranks6445 Yeah that's because they're wheel horse power figures on a dyno. Factory get their readings from the crank where nearly all of them make 197ps at crank, around 194hp. 194hp at the crank converts to around 170whp on average. So those 197's made good power. The one making 180whp would be around 210bhp at the crank.

@bobfranks6445

4 жыл бұрын

@@Leesmithmk2 Nope was flywheel, there was a huge thread on Cliosport about it.

Great skills mate.

The guys laugh just made those slides even better. Bloody well held in those bends.

Looks Soo much fun!!

3:11 ....priceless - the noise ! :)))

Just looked at your 172 spec , it's similar to mine except 182 Manifold , that's encouraging

I discovered your channel a few months back, and I was amazed by the skill you two put into driving these cars. You guys really know how to drive. Have you been into some form of racing?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

We have both done various bits of racing over the years with good success, and have had tuition from some top racing and rally drivers including the late great Pentti Airikkala who taught us the left foot braking footwork you can see on the pedal cam.

@Flowermouth

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion A video on your history would be sick 😍😍

@Dockhead

5 жыл бұрын

absolutely love these cars, never ever thought id find a channel with these lot in. deffo a subscriber now.

@sugarnads

5 жыл бұрын

Camber and Combustion pentti airikkalas dead? Damn. I missed that. Guy was a weapon.

@dimitarchardakliev5351

3 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion Come on guys, we're still waiting for the origins story video. We need to how you acquired those mad skillz.

That Clio handles really well and sounds like it's on bodies 👍

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

It sounds great, but just an induction kit!

Great Driving👏

The right track for your cars. Nice drive, you seem to be easier with the wheel when recover from a strong overseer

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah Brands hatch is a fun little track for these hatchbacks!

I fucking love your energy you guys are so great to watch

Pushing that shit to the limit!! good watch

Looks like so much fun. But you still need a diff! :D

Love an aerodynamic crossiant 👌

Nice steering control

I'm out at Oulton park for first day in my 172 on tues, I'll see how well it goes then. Pretty standard except suspension and Exhaust

Brilliant

i have a clio172 track car to and i love it very good cars!

Man i like ur footwork

F4R is a long stroke engine so it has great mid range punch. Always amazed me that they can survive for so long over 7500rpm standard considering how high the piston speed gets!

Awesome, cars look good fun and some good driving. Curious to see what you was lapping at?

Wanna be in your crew! More fun cannot be had!

I have watched so many videos on KZread but yours are perhaps the best......shows you don't need Jeremy Clarkson.. Zonda money to have fun, infact....less can be more , learn,t that a long time ago.... clever marketing men can make you part with your money ....but you boys show what working class hero's are all about. Johnny Cufflinks would tremble in fear in the pits sitting in his 911 if he had to go head to head with you boys. Total respect to ya both 💪

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Amen Darren, just goes to show it's not what you drive but how you drive it!

Clio is way too lighter even on stock, next time remove the passenger from 306 to clio, imo.

Hi C&C, do you have any walk around video's on the black 172 or on instagram or FB etc, have exactly the same car here in aus and about to start tracking it

Great footage as always! when is the next video being uploaded?! us baguette lovers waiting patiently out here...

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

BaitFish appreciate the love 👊🏻 next video coming very soon! 🤙🏻

Класс, побольше новых видео! 👍

Hey, I've driven that track, on Gran Turismo!

Love your videos. Awesome drivers !! Can do the same in a sti or evo?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍 Sure, if someone's brave enough to hand us the keys to their Evo or Impreza, we'll give it a go 😄

Pejo birkişi fazla 😁👍👍

Gutted you guys sold the 197, awesome video once again.

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

We were gutted when the engine died on the way to the Ring!

@fiestaria

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion shit, nasty times. Any idea why that happened?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

@@fiestaria Bottom end went plus no compression on two cylinders. It had done over 140k and I have not given it an easy life.

@fiestaria

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion fair enough, it had to bloody happen abroad didn't it?

the 1st corner with the 306 is incredible, when you go to the nurburgring?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

We are on a track day at the Ring on Monday 14th October, maybe some TF laps on Sunday 13th.

That 306 is crazy 😆

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't be the 306 if it wasn't!

Lol Class good job 👍

Lovin the pug massive

3:34 and 3:42... was that a bolt snapping or something falling off or was that just the harness buckles? Epic driving though. Wish i could do track days again.

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Just the harness buckles knocking around in the passenger seat thankfully!

Fuck yeah bro, that's hard out all right, I've got a 306 xsi auto, and it still goes hard too! Anyways, mean as bro, viewing from NZ.

Oh yeah ! You're back - been missing you and the way you laugh....dont worry i make the same noises :))))..... What engine oil are you using?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Don't we all haha! Oil used in 306 is Millers CFS Fully Synthetic 10w40.

@hirayaman246

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion Omg....you put english oil in french car :)))

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

@@hirayaman246 don't tell anyone... 😂

When was this? I did a track evening at Brands recently in my 182, might have been there!

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

This was on the 8th of July during the day 👍

Now i saw the new clio.Nice vid great driving.What is your opinion for clio 197?i can't decide between ep3 and clio 197

@CamberandCombustion

4 жыл бұрын

The 197 has a much more advanced and capable chassis than the Clio 172/182, but the 197 is heavier so is slower in a straight line. Compared to an EP3 the 197's handling is much better and it is more adjustable but the EP3 engine is amazing! Ideally, a 197 chassis with an EP3 engine would be perfect.

I was their watching, shame my battery went flat or id have got videos, your some drivers👍

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Next time you see us be sure to come and say hi

@GhostTrader37

5 жыл бұрын

Camber and Combustion whens your next track day buddy? Ill be at goodwood on the 11th! If your on instagram click follow and ill catch up with you there! If youve a spare seat some day ill take a blast in the pug👌👌 my instagram is gt3_rs roy :)

Hey did you change something on your brake. Is your brake harder to press or is it lite?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Both cars use normal brake pedal pressure

Please do a FAQ video :)

What date was you at brands? I was there on Tuesday 9th, Clio looked fun on track.

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Monday 8th!

@sparkplug964

5 жыл бұрын

​@@CamberandCombustion Dam! small world, we missed each other by a day. Keep up the oversteer and black flags haha

The 306 seems like it's hanging back engine wise compared to other track days.. bottle of injector cleaner? 👍🎄🎄

@CamberandCombustion

4 жыл бұрын

The 306 was strong, just the 172 is a lot quick in a straight line than the old 197 so it left the 306 behind on the straights. Plus it's pretty much run on best Redex anyway

I didnt think there would be much difference with only 5hp difference and similar weights but the 172 had bigger legs. Legend has it, the Std cat robbed 15hp from the GTi-6.

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

EugVR6 this 172 has about 10hp on the GTi6 and carries around 80-100kg less. In our experience removing the cat on the GTi6 shifted some power away from the mid-range and towards the top end but saw no real overall gains.

@EugVR6

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion Thanks for that👍🏼 Some ITBs on the GTi 6 would give it some more poke or some twin webbers 45's/48's maybe! Keep up the good work with those vid's, very entertaining 👍🏼

How does the Clio 2 feel compared to the Clio 3 ?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Lighter, more nimble, more neutrally balanced and quicker!

More video!

What rear camber are you running on the Clio ?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Around 1.5 degrees negative

hi guys. I'm searching for a 2nd hand Clio RS for trackday. i not searching for the best chrono but the best fun and sensations. Do you have an advise ? thank you for videos !

@dawoud8013

5 жыл бұрын

Clio 2 RS2 ?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

dawoud8013 thanks for the support 👊🏻 Both the Clio 2 and 3 RS are equally great fun! The Clio 2 is cheaper to buy but needs a few more modifications to be ready for track whereas the Clio 3 is a better ‘out of the box’ car for track and is more refined. Our choice would be the Clio 3 if it was a road car and track car or Clio 2 if it was just track.

@dawoud8013

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion Thank you guyz !!

I hate brands hatch 😬, I keep forgetting the gradient of some of the bends . Mostly hate turn 3,4,5

What engine oil do you use on your 306?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

João Afonso Moreira Millers CFS Fully Synthetic 10w40 👍🏻

What car do you prefer ? The clio or the 306 ? Make a choice and say why? Quickly response

@CamberandCombustion

4 жыл бұрын

Alex who owns the Clio prefers it because it's cheaper, faster and has more parts available for it. Matt who owns the 306 prefers it because it's rarer and is more lively at the rear!

@jeanmichelbraux6341

4 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion yes. But a bout motors characters?

Thats lack of weight more than anything else which made the difference

@matthewlewis1795

5 жыл бұрын

Lack of passenger I'd say 👌

Seems most cars handle better on 15S see alot of stuff with 15s swapped from 17s especially hot hatches tyres seem cheaper too love the 306 gti 6 was a 90s hot hatch bench mark then the clios came along to take the crown think although the Renault quicker I prefer the 306. Should have gone clio Williams although expensive and quite rare now.

@Dockhead

5 жыл бұрын

id love to see these get a Renault 5 if it were ever possible.

its been a while gents ✌

No black flag? Boring 😴 does the Clio feel faster than your 197 was?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry Sam! Yeah the 172 is definitely quicker than the 197 was.

@sammysev16

5 жыл бұрын

Camber and Combustion what modifications? It sounds amazing

@oofboof6288

5 жыл бұрын

@@sammysev16 Check the description.

@sammysev16

5 жыл бұрын

oofboof ah yes, thanks!

would be tempted, but people say st150 is better handling.. as the chassis is fantastic stock...

@deanodrives4966

5 жыл бұрын

It's definitely close between a 172 and st150 for handling. However the 172 engine is far superior in terms of performance

@isoconfused8744

5 жыл бұрын

@@deanodrives4966 induction, cams exhaust and a remap.. knocking on 200bhp.. find used parts, I would argue a all around better track car... But also you mention better engine.. I would say the st is better, non dephaser thing, not timing belt.. if you where to mention gearbox then I would give you that one.

@deanodrives4966

5 жыл бұрын

@@isoconfused8744 they do make good power with bolt ons, but the engines out of the box are a lot quicker on the clios. Not taking anything away from the st though, they are fantastic little cars

@danieljordannicol9937

5 жыл бұрын

Seen so many st150s go bang on track not sure whu though

@brokenworld1

5 жыл бұрын

@@isoconfused8744 I would say the Clio is substantially better suited to being a fun track car than the fiesta, out the box they do everything better, they are also lighter and the gearbox doesn't leak hot chocolate quite so easily (although still weaker than others). Not sure who told you the ST150 handles better because it really doesn't. Either car would be a good laugh though so doubt you can really go wrong!

This 197 is can be drive on legals roads ?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

All our track cars are road legal yes

@PEANJUT

5 жыл бұрын

​@@CamberandCombustion so that's perfect ^_^

What power 172 ? What power 306 ?

@CamberandCombustion

4 жыл бұрын

172 = 180bhp 306 = 167bhp

What tyres do you use on the 306🤣

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Nankang AR1

@johnnyhale2041

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion grips man!

Send it

Which do you perfer 172 or 197?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Too soon to say, we had a lot of fun in the 197. Time will tell...

@jjmdavis

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion get them both on track!

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

We no longer have the 197 as the engined died back in April, but we're sure to come across one on a trackday soon!

@jjmdavis

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion id say take mine, but its 100% not track ready.

Glad to see that the little french cars are pleased abroad. In france they rule the racetracks (especially Megane 3 RS ) but here (in France) you will always find stupid guys who only drive in straightline say "renault are shity cars, my Golf GTi kill you" LOL

The 172 definitely looks "stickier" than the 197 and 306. The 172 is a lot smaller which is probably why it's better than the 197

@vainxler

5 жыл бұрын

Mostly lighter,120-150kgs less then a 197

Which one do you prefer the 197 or 172 looks like a bit less drama in the 172 😂

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

The 172 seems to be a little more neutrally balanced so we have some tweaking to do to loosen the rear end up!

@Gixerlee

5 жыл бұрын

Camber and Combustion awesome look forward to seeing some fwd drifting 😂😂

@brokenworld1

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion Lots of people say a rear ARB kit set too stiffly loosens the back of the 1*2's up well!

1:18 who does a effin foot-over on the brake pedal!? You lunatic... :D

@aaroni5074

5 жыл бұрын

Impressive wasn't it

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

We will take that as a compliment!

@rp20832

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion That would indeed be the correct interpretation...

Both get mx5s?

@CamberandCombustion

4 жыл бұрын

Could be fun!

@Ahogg1992

4 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion especially in they had forced induction

How about a stockish civic ep3? Should be even with the 306?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

Check out our other vids to see a pretty stock EP3 against the old 197 at Oulton Park. The 306 and 197 were always very evenly matched so it would have been close!

@oldskool1234

5 жыл бұрын

@@CamberandCombustion What u think quicker clio or civic? More importantly what car do u prefer the feel of from all the cars

You BOTH need 172's!

@ApothecaryTerry

5 жыл бұрын

Nah get another 306 GTI-6. Looks much more fun and sounds better.

Isn't that a 182 ?

@CamberandCombustion

5 жыл бұрын

They look very similar but it's a 172 bud 👍

Hmm,not build car seems to be more balanced and stable car than "modified"