What'd y'all think of those numbers, a bit more what you expected? Comment below!

@soldierforgod1477

3 жыл бұрын

How do I enter to win a bike??? I always wanted a bike , that sure would be nice.....😎🥳🥳🥳

@whskywolf

3 жыл бұрын

That fast bike, but I remember when Yamaha brought out the VMax in the 80s, they claimed it produced 120 HP then that was mind blowing.

@tincup850

3 жыл бұрын

Powaaaaaa

@BlockheadMoto

3 жыл бұрын

Join Patreon at www.Patreon.com/BlockheadMoto and pledge whatever you want per episode. Rules are in the bio there 👍🏼

@luckmanm4479

3 жыл бұрын

@BLOCKHEAD I watched your videos on learning how to ride a bike when I was twelve because my dad said if I got straight A’s I would get a bike But I didn’t (facepalm) Now years later we are looking for a bike and we are interested in the bmw g310r can you do a review on it please

I’ll take my 2018 bobber in 2nd gear up to around 80 before shifting. Mines tuned and it comes to live after 4300rpms They are a fun bike that some never get to realize. Great technical video and very entertaining.

@BlockheadMoto

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they rip! Can’t wait to open it up a bit more 🤘🏼

@sli8462

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. I have the S&S intake, Vance & Hines exhaust, and then had fuelmoto do the pv3 tune to reflash. My rev limit was raised to mid 8000s and it pulls...

@sli8462

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlockheadMoto make sure to reflash to unlock the hidden oomph.

@TheBeardedBobber

3 жыл бұрын

@@sli8462 sounds like the same set up as mine I have the rcx exhaust. I’ll be doing a new exhaust soon and I’ll have to do a retune. I’m interested to see if the 2-1 makes a big difference

Very impressive for Indian. They should be proud of their product.

Another great and super informative video Block. I’m really impressed with how deep Mac went into the testing process. A lot of folks may have been put off by the technical discussion, but understanding how the dyno calculates each run is useful. Now, if I ever have an opportunity to dyno my FXDL, I know the questions to ask to keep the testing facility honest. Kudos to you guys for this one!!!

I know it's an older video, but I just want to say. The Knowledge that man has is incredible. And those Scouts are just sweet bikes.

I almost forgot, the scout 60 has black heads and the big scout has the chrome heads. Easiest way to tell the difference.

@mithrandirthegrey7644

2 ай бұрын

Yeah but people also change their bobbers to blacked out!

I got that Scout 69 and its definitely a fast fun bike...It only really needs slip ons,a seat and definitely something like lock-tite on the threads of those Indian mirrors that seem to always come loose... great video -thank you sir👍🏽

I love jumping on my wife’s scout bobber from my Indian Challenger It’s such a fun bike

You can tell this guy is a teacher by the way he explains the process and what’s going on. Good stuff man! 😎👊🏼

Good comparison and it makes me very happy that you are willing to own up too any mistakes being made! Nice job 👍🏻

Okay - you pulled the geek out of me with this video. Fascinating explanation of what I've been reading about for 40-50 years. Excellent!

Just bought a 2019 Scout bobber, never really understood dyno testing but this was a very cool video. Thanks very interesting

Hey Blockhead this was a good vid. This guy knows his shit , you can tell by the way he studies the charts and knows what to do next. I really enjoyed watching it.

Man! This video is great! TKS Mac as well! Great content! Thanks also to those to ask to recheck the bike! It worth!

That is one teacher that knows his stuff. Well done at explaining it to all of us novices in a simple easy to digest format.

Great video!!! That was a ton of information and very entertaining ... Thanks!!!

Awesome video Block! I have the sixty but I can attest it is a fun ass bike and it’s what got me into motorkykles in the first place.

Went to MMI in Phoenix. Class of 2015. Loved the school and my time there.

Cycle world 2018 Dyno scout 84 horsepower @8200 rpm. 64 pound ft @ 3200 rpm

Thanks for the series. I just purchased a Scout 69 a month ago. I like these numbers. Thanks for showing the speed and rev limits. I'm not sure I will test the 120 MPH limit but now I know the capabilities of my Scout. BTW Dr Mac seams like the instructor everyone should have. Great balance of knowledge, teaching technique and humor.

@hootertexas9711

2 жыл бұрын

4 months, have you hit 120 yet? I put 650 miles on mine in the first couple weeks.

@scooterbobscout

Жыл бұрын

So stock the have a 120 limiter, once you buy a tuner from dynojet, it'll remove the limiter on it, Mines got pipes, indian open air box and pv3 custom map and I can do 135

@jondavidson1542

Жыл бұрын

@@scooterbobscout I have the Dynojet tuner... Ive done about 117 and bailed... cant think about doing 135..then again once the limit increases...LOL....I just need to replace the airbox then do the tune....

@scooterbobscout

Жыл бұрын

@@joseluispaniagua9408 shorty GP slip ons. Basically straight piped lol

Man, learning so much. I found my passion at 38. 41 now and I want to be a motorcycle tech when I grow up 😂 😂 Thanks for the knowledge. Especially interesting about the dyno manipulation!

@BlockheadMoto

3 жыл бұрын

Nice! Haha

@josephsantana3094

2 жыл бұрын

Too bad it's tough to make a living wage doing that nowadays.

@SportyRider

2 жыл бұрын

@@josephsantana3094 I think all career paths are tough starting out. It's got to be built upon with experience. Definitely sticking with what I do now. Too much invested, and I finally make decent money. This might be my retirement plan though 😊

@johnwesley6929

2 жыл бұрын

@@SportyRider You don't have to wait until you are retired or be vested into something 24/7. If you enjoy it find a way to incorporate it into your life now. Get a fixer upper bike you can afford are restore it or something. Don't wait until you are old because while some people have money and time when they are old , their bodies do not allow them to enjoy things like skate boarding or any sport, lifting, depends but anything is game even death. and someone important said. Most people live thinking about the future as if they were never going to die and end up dying without having really lived.

@jeremyjc1978

2 жыл бұрын

Don't grow up! It's a trap! 🤣

I thought it was funny when they were suprised they hit 120 in 5th. Just last night I hit 115 in 4th. Not leagal...BUT FUN!

That was so interesting! Great content!

@5:42 that's what they had to do on my Harley. My guy explained it all and gave me the sheets and explained 4th 5th and 6th gear.. At least he was honest!

Dang. Jimmy Mac knows his stuff. Great video.

He mentions a Jeep with a Chevy drive train... I bought a 1949 willys with that same set up yesterday lol

Indian Scout is going to be my starter bike. I will just have to be careful until I get comfortable with the bike.

This guy is a legend, Love the technical discussion. Great content

Dude this is the most beautifull bobber for me, + best quality/price product

Brilliant video Blockhead, really enjoyed the detail :)

beautiful piece of art! Sound, lines, colour.

@MrAtlas-sg7yc

3 жыл бұрын

Needs a better exhaust

@Hazardxv

3 жыл бұрын

'Better' in what sense?

My expectations were to be entertained by your content and as usual I was. I don’t understand the brand snobbery some people have.

@chrisb9960

3 жыл бұрын

I felt bad when folks were giving them a hard time on the original run but it looks like they were having fun on the dyno in this video.

@FNGMOTO

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisb9960 I don’t get it but I guess I’m not meant to. I ride a scout bobber and I didn’t think they were being unfair at all. They both said the scout rips. Now if they said the scout is a dog and bashed it I’d understand some people getting butt hurt.

@NicePantsLance

3 жыл бұрын

@@FNGMOTO the point of a dyno run is to measure peak horsepower and torque, and they stopped the run before it actually hit peak. Pretty easy to understand why everyone wanted a re-do. Nice channel by the way, I just subbed 👍

@4tech69

3 жыл бұрын

That brand thing does exist. But also being accurate is important. Especially when the content itself is meant to educate as much or more than entertain.

@BlockheadMoto

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you found it entertaining! I understand where people were coming from bc we didn’t take it to redline, but was an honest mistake. We’re only human, it happens, so was happy to get it back on the dyno, and in the process, learned a lot! Hope you all did as well through the vid 🤘🏼

Can't wait to see the finished Scout!

Killer video. Really wish I had gone to MMI after talking to them. Maybe before I retire. LOL! 👍🏼👍🏼

I truly do love this bike I've been wanting a Scout Bobber ever since it came out, only complaint I have for the bike you have is that right mirror needs replaced lol.

@BlockheadMoto

3 жыл бұрын

Both up top mirrors are going away, haha

@bobberdude557

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlockheadMoto replaced my Scout Sixty bobber bars with the Indian mini apes and bar end drop downs. Mirrors take a little getting use to but looks way better. Great content as usual Block!

One word... Awesome ! ..... Should also list-up the OEM specs to compare to actuals, Block. Stay Safe .

Great vid and very informative!!!

Very interesting The more you know. I am now curious if I would get more out of my Stage 1 M8 RKS with different tuner.

I love the way yyou explain the process and give your opinion. I would love to bring my 17 VICTORY OCTANE to you and have you run it and explain it.

Thanks for posting appreciate it personally I would like to meet the engineer who designed 3 gallon gas tank to go 100 miles

Good info on dyno numbers! 👍

Great video dyno operator & communicator. I’m a life long motor head & hot rodder and I picked up a few things. Block good on you for doing this and deciding to follow it with a typically rode stage 1 1200. The old engine air cooled 1200 will fall short of this liquid cooled beast but it will be closer and a good comparison that many would like to see. Can’t wait till Harley finally adds their new liquid cooled V twin into the lineup. Never made sense to me with Harley stopping production of the V-Rod motor. Same ish displacement liquid cooled V twin that would have made a great comparison as well. I went through this dyno tune stuff last fall with my stage kit & Harley tuner (to retain warranty) Sport Glide on the same dyno. Good experienced tuner & nice moderate tune riders setup but he was not the communicator your dyno operator is. I did expect the liquid cooled Indian to do better though. 80 HP isn’t that strong by today’s standards even for a V twin cruiser motor. My SG made almost 80 HP stock then 116 HP on a still mild & warranty setup without the benefits of liquid cooling. Oranges I know but I recently saw 160 HP & TQ pull on a modified but pump gas M8 Harley. And KTM’s Super Duke 1290 liquid cooled V twin is factory rated 177 HP with 106 foot o twist. Though it’s more of a street legal race bike setup. Like your dyno guy said it takes 120/130 HP now days for any street cred. Lol or 200 HP for today’s big crotch rockets.

If the throttle body is controlled by a wire and not cable you should have a camera watching that during a pull on the dyno . I watch some Harley M8s do some stuff. That why I like ecm flashing and use a piggy back like power vision for other adjustments. For real watch the throttlebody blade. During a pull.

OMG, the 'bench' arguments over DIN/SAE/JIS!! Haha😂 But, what a process!! Sometimes, I left the dyno sooo frustrated. Thanks for great memories.

I guess I missed it I never seen a top speed anywhere but just to let you know I have an Indian Scout and it's top speed was a hundred 35 miles an hour with a little bit left on the throttle!! Absolutely without a doubt fast enough.🤔🤯

I thought that was you at my school! That bike is sweet!

this is literally my new fav dude, gonna come out here n tell you how guys get you "better" numbers...come on man be honest, its not that hard

Nice explanation about auto tuners 👍

The scout is a fun bike but with my big feet I couldn't let it dig in to the corners with out dragging my boots lol. Still enjoyed the rip on the straights .

Don’t you love it when you make a vid and get flamed for a mistake? I do... great vid and good numbers on the Scout!

@BlockheadMoto

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, it’s always something. But in this case, happy people caught it, bc I didn’t! And happy to get back in and show the better results

@BigSmittyRiding

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlockheadMoto you did a great job and the second vid cleared it all up! Very technical and well done!

these guys are surely impartial... If Blockhead wasn't, he'd be trying to sell you a Yamaha Roadstar.. AKA the Yama-Glide...lol love this guy!! ;)

Looks simple to me, basically this engine and transmission was made to give you consistent power over all gears with some sort of kill switch either speed or rev's. I check air once a week.

You mentioned going to the power vision on the 131 to fine tune it. Are you not able to do that with the thunder max you have on it?

Another question. Regarding tuners. How many of you prescribe to the notion of deleting your O2 sensors? I'm in the camp of keeping them ,but moving from the factory narrow band to a wide band. My ex runs her 103 stage 1 with O2 delete using VH Big Radius and TTS. I swear on certain days with weather changes it runs crappy. I run a M8 stage 2 torque cam, wide band O2s stock headpipe with Kerker Stouts PV tuner ..never have issues .

Awesome vid, as always. I'm lovin' learning all this. Great lessons on power, all the air/fuel/flow/exhaust info. I'd love to see some stuff on Jimmy's Warrior. That's the muscle version of the bike that I want, which is the Road Star. The engines are the same, the tuning is just different to give it the muscle, so anything that I can learn about that bike would be great. I'm very old school. I'd like to understand untuned antique styled carburation. I'm just not as into tuners, computerized controls and FI. (yeah, I know, tonnes of benefits, but it's just not for me) The best that the previous generation can provide is what I'd like to learn. Maybe even compare some numbers between the olde school and the new school. Thanks for sharing with us.

Yeeeaahh! It's finally here! 👏 👏 🎆

Mine will do 120mph, but starts shaking around 100-110. Might be the bags that make it shake more, but the suspension pretty much sucks, especially the soft spongy forks. It will also wiggle quite a bit at speed. Mine is a Sixty, but important to note that 5th gear in the Sixty is the same as 6th gear in the 1130cc standard scout version.

@carlevanko2060

2 жыл бұрын

I've had mine up to 115 with no shaking.

@davidefland1985

Жыл бұрын

The gear ratio is not the same for the Two bikes. The transmission ratio is the same but final gear ratio in the Scout 69 is taller

Been watching your videos for a while I live in Sarasota love what you’re doing I’m about to get my motorcycle license and saving up to get a bike maybe I’ll see you on the road

@khaccanhle1930

3 жыл бұрын

I went to Sarasota a few years back. I loved the white sands of Siesta key beach - lovely place.

@Andy-px1mj

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck with the license

Excellent learning opportunities!

Curious on the redline for the bike (not really the numbers though as they seem about right). My Scout stock redlines at 8400rpm... Why only 6600? After tune redline is 8700 and these bikes make nice power

Indian definitely governs their bikes. My Chieftain cuts out between 115-120mph, which isn't necessarily such a bad thing considering that's what the stock tires are rated for.

@FNGMOTO

3 жыл бұрын

Dude imagine the law suits if they didn’t. I might be just me but going 100 on my bobber is enough to make my butthole pucker. I’m good with that lol.

@fred9783

3 жыл бұрын

All Indians are governed. I have a FTR1200S and a 2020 scout bobber, and they are both governed (FTR1200S at 125mph the scout at 120mph)

@FNGMOTO

3 жыл бұрын

@@fred9783 I want an FTR RR bad. Ive thought about trading in my bobber but it my first bike so it has sentimental value to me.

@FNGMOTO

3 жыл бұрын

@Bunnyshooter 223 yeah that’s what I’ll probably do.

@stuckinpodunk

3 жыл бұрын

I've had my Bobber 60 up to about 110 and it was stilling pulling hard, good to know where it taps out. The short suspension travel and tendency to bottom out due to my fat ass scares the hell out of me at those speeds.

I don't know anything about tuning but I have a question for anybody that knows... Why wouldn't you take it to red line in every gear no matter what bike it is? Wouldn't the graphs and all that reads out stuff tell you which RPM it had its best?

The Indian lineup just doesn't appeal to me. I don't care what emblem is on the tank, but they just don't make anything I like. I have a Harley, a Honda, a Kawasaki, and a Yamaha. My Kawasaki is the slowest by far at 250 cc, but it is one of the most fun to ride. It isn't always about having the most power.

@jimwortham8634

3 жыл бұрын

Wow sounds like a smart man

@daveivins5968

3 жыл бұрын

There bobber line up is probably one of the best looking on the market...

@CraigSmith568

3 жыл бұрын

Looks are subjective, but for my taste it's a no deal. Different strokes for different folks.

@Hazardxv

3 жыл бұрын

I just don't understand how any comparable Harley looks better than a scout

@CraigSmith568

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hazardxv We all have different tastes. That's what makes the world a better place. If you like it then by all means get one and enjoy it.

Surprised at the way the Scout 1200 limiter kicks in at 120 whilst the Victory Octane runs out up to 9k.. shift light comes in at 7800, I know 6th on the Octane is an OD, not sure about Scout, But the way of calculating out on a top gear is going to hurt figs on higher revving bikes like the Scout and favour those where the power and torque is lower in the Rev range (like a Harley) #justsaying but hey, no conspiracy, appreciate you guys running the Scout again.

@CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC707

3 жыл бұрын

Octane revs out to 8.2K stock...PCVX can move it up to 9k!

@78Outlaw

3 жыл бұрын

@@CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC707 sure, factory Octane stage 1 map revs out closer to 9k. Certainly mine does :)

Hey you Blockhead guys, I have an idea for a bobber build. Just want to know what you think. Let me know if your interested in hearing it. Love the work you guys do!

I wish I wasn’t such a late bloomer to motorcycles. Been a machinist for 10+ years and getting very bored. Would love to have a career in motorcycles.

Legend! Thanks for going back to the Dyno. Worth it to dig deeper and hear that bike scream! Next step: cams and big bore kit

@sixchuterhatesgoogle3824

3 жыл бұрын

Cams and a big-bore kit? You would end up with a Victory Octane engine... which is good.

@Nickersont88

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixchuterhatesgoogle3824 More than that! Check out Indianmotorcycles dot net for a thread called "Scout Big Bore + cams". Thing is MEAN.

@Nickersont88

3 жыл бұрын

@@sixchuterhatesgoogle3824 124whp and a 10.28 1/4 mile

HP at the rear wheel is not what the engine is. Brake Horse Power is the most accurate measure of just the engine. The technical aspect of the video is good but rear wheel measuring can have some things not taken into account like tire slippage. I’m always suspicious of rear wheel horse power numbers because the machine doing it may inaccurate.

I wonder what the scout could really do with higher speed rated tires and a speed limiter bypass.

Torque at what rpm as horsepower is a calculation as not able to measure directly. Rpm x torque/5252 = horsepower

In two months I will purchase my Scout bobber. I have learned full stage 1 off the floor.

Great stuff to see and know, even though I never really cared. But It is VERY interesting. Now I know. My butt is still the best for me. Very interesting knowing the rev limiter is not always the speed limiter.

Oh hey Block,nice :D Hehe got into this contest by buying ticket to a festival next year and one of 2000 will win a new Indian Scout Prolly won't be me but if that would happen would be awesome haha I do like this bike Edit:Ohohooo my badge changed I see,6 month member now :D Hehe u are the 1st YT channel I got membership for I think,now got a bunch of them

Love the information..I understand everything that y'all was talking about 👍

Torque at what rpm? To calculate horsepower

Something is off with that setup, the bike definitely get higher that 6600Rpm. I normally ride it around that RPM when I'm on the Highway for long runs.The engine doesn't even wake up until you hit 5500, the bike definitely gets up to 8K before the limiter kicks in, and the limiter is very noticeable when you hit it.

@TheDjcutnpaste

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, got to the point where you guys realised it was the speed limiter before the rev limiter, and it can be adjusted a with a tune. ✌️✌️

I don't understand clearly. BUT, it sounds good to me. Let's ride. Thank you.

I have a 2016 Scout and have had it over 125mph

Ive had mine pushed out to 165 hp ,130 torque. LOVE IT!

@sirsaltytampon4379

3 жыл бұрын

A scout????

@richardkrause9692

3 жыл бұрын

@@sirsaltytampon4379 Yes, It can be done but cost about 10,grand

@sirsaltytampon4379

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardkrause9692 what'd you do to get it to be the that strong?

@richardkrause9692

3 жыл бұрын

@@sirsaltytampon4379 I PAID 10 GRAND TO LET PROFESSIONAL DO IT !

@seldomseensavage3459

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardkrause9692 doubt it

I'd like to see a scout 60 compared to the 1200 sportster. I think either way your comparing apples to oranges but think you should compare it to a 103 duna or higher since the scout is more like a dyna.

Incredibly interesting👍

I didnt know Aaron Rogers was an MMI dyno instructor

I see the blower on the floor has a Baldor motor!

This was a really cool viddy.

don't get a tune until you do exhaust and intake on the Indian.

What year and trim is this Scout?

So since the bike is still hitting 120mph in 5th gear, does that mean the 6th gear is like an overdrive gear for highway or something?

Drum ratio.... Does that in any way relate to 5252? I think he said recommended was 5600

I might just buy the Scout Bobber!

@williamheinsinger7390

3 жыл бұрын

I did a month ago, Love it 😁👍

I have 2018 Scout Bobber with 2 into one Bassani and performance Air box with MAP.,Pulls damn hard and runs like a MFER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bike revs out to 8.2K lol.............

I love this motocycle 🥰😍❤ need more video

good info

Why not FTR 1200 with 1203cc. Vs 1133cc with Scout

correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't you want to dyno in the gear closest to a 1:1 gear ratio?

@alexisthemexican

3 жыл бұрын

He explains it in the video

How much is the price for that bike

Bone stock 72!!!!! How fun!! Now do a bone stock 60!!!!!

Where was the 1200 Sportster dyno? Next video?

@BlockheadMoto

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, next vid! This one went a little longer than anticipated, haha

So 16 minutes in, hearing that it's making its power way up at or near red line, is that telling me that if I had this bike, I might benefit from a cam change if I never what to ride it at that high of rpm? What good is power if it's at a place you never want to ride anyway? Might another cam or tune get me more power at a lower rpm than what it is set up from the factory at that lower rpm? It's like they say, it's not how fast you go, it's how you go fast.

I’d slam a 30 pack with Jimmy Mac