Thanks!

@DeerAssociation

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Very generous, Hugh! Thank you for this gift. We will put it to work for deer!

Great video! Keep up the good work

@DeerAssociation

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Thank you for watching!

Studying deer is tough, because of those individual traits noted by the researcher. Some deer are just naturally more shy and reclusive, just like people. One thing not mentioned, but perhaps covered in the study, is how much bucks utilized a plot/bait site that was never hunted over during the entire season. Earlier studies have shown that, in addition to avoidance behavior in areas of disturbance, buck movements tend to be restricted to smaller, and often more isolated, portions of their home range, when they are subjected to hunting pressure. Something else not mentioned that I should think would be evident in the data, is the impact on deer movement when the firearm season first opened up.

great video thanks

@DeerAssociation

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Thanks for watching!

Thanks!

@DeerAssociation

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Wow. Thank you for your support! And thanks for watching!

They could be traumatized by being radio collard,also...but cool too see data on such a study.I'm sure billions of man hours have been spent over the thousands of years trying g to figure out game movements. Good job..thanks for sharing.

I put up a trail camera in a very remote place (1 1/2 hour walk) and it took 2 weeks before seeing deer on that camera. Wow! I put one up on a regularly travelled path by people and deer and they remain unphased. I have pics of deer and bucks walk before and after hunters passing by. Expectations seem to also determine their behavior. Would be curious if hunter walked in and didn’t make loud sounds from 4 wheelers, etc.

Lindsay, other than wind direction, we have found the other most important element is getting in and out of your deer stand undetected!!!!!

@DeerAssociation

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Yes! This is why it is surprising to me to see so many permanent stands built right on the edges of plots, where it's impossible to get in and out undetected. -Lindsay

so any idea how the deer reacted to the person dropping the person off at stand site?

Too many factors with whitetails. Using this data you might say John killed a buck in this food plot last night. It’s probably not a good stand to go back to for five days. Though the reason John killed the buck is because of the hot doe in the area. Most hunters have experienced this scenario. Few years ago I killed a big buck in a stand in the morning then a buddy like a buck in the same stand that very afternoon.

@DeerAssociation

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This study (like a lot of science) gives us a good idea of probabilities, not absolutes. They did not find that bucks never go near stands that have been hunted, but that they are less likely to. There are always rare exceptions, like your anecdotal story, but anecdotes cannot be compared to a years-long scientific analysis of movement data coming from GPS collars worn by 37 bucks that were being actively hunted. Yes, there are other factors. But there aren't "too many." Bucks respond to hunting pressure, which can reduce the probability you will see them, and you can take that to the bank.

@GrassiOutdoorAdventures

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@@DeerAssociation I agree and disagree. When I say too many factors, I don’t mean it’s impossible to get good data. For example every property is going to have different factors. For example is it a farm or is it near public land or a preserve. Animals react to “pressure” differently. In the video you didn’t really define pressure. Some deer become used to the sounds of farm equipment and associate them with positively with food. Whether it’s cutting corn or filling a feeder. I’m not discounting the study. It is very valuable information. But what I’ve found is every property seems to have a uniques set of variables that sets how the deer behave. I might compare it to predictions the weather. We can get a pretty good idea but never surprised when the predictions are wrong.

@DeerAssociation

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@@GrassiOutdoorAdventures We defined pressure in the title of the video: Hunting Pressure. This is not about farming activity, vehicles or other human activity. It's about humans actively hunting and trying to kill deer. That's the pressure we're talking about, and we made that clear. Deer are prey animals, and every study we know of shows deer in every location, with every set of variables, are very good at responding when you are trying to prey upon them.

@GrassiOutdoorAdventures

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@@DeerAssociation Ok Is hunting pressure shooting a deer at a stand sight or just watching deer at a stand sight? If I sit at a stand sight 20 times and never shoot a deer I could argue it makes the deer more comfortable with my presence if they are aware. Not to mention we assume playing the wind right and making stands easy to access without spooking deer they aren’t aware they are being hunted. So I’m a little confused on the definition of hunting pressure.

I believe clint is the guy i hunted with on public land here in auburn. Very smart guy. But heres the ? You have feeders and plots and dropping hunters at stands. How bout a video on national forest land where its walk in walk out. So we get a better perspective. Almost 90 percent of videos on here are food plots feeders, corn fields, soybean fields. Do some national forest test for us public land hunters in the south east. Would love moe videos on fair chase public land in south east where you carry your stand in and out , you cannot feed, and you walk ind blind sometimes

@DeerAssociation

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Good suggestion for a video. In general, studies of deer movement and hunting pressure on public lands have shown that pressure is highly connected to access: The closer you are to an open public road, the more pressure. And pressure drops steadily the further you have to walk to get to an area, or the more steep the slope.

Did they drive them to the stand😂

Perhaps alot of the non sightings is because of the size of the area.My close to home hunting area is a 200 yards by 1.5 mile govt strip that leads to open fields,deeper woods down hill and westward to a state park that phorbids hunting.From 2014 to 2021 I have killed 11 bucks and 4 does.I moved my stand two times.2014-2017 -5 deer 4 bucks I hunted it 4-5 days a week,just 2-3 hours per hunt.I killed one buck a week after he chased a doe all around me and under my stand.A few days later,I got him at 20 yards,chasing a doe. I moved my stand up toward the property line fence about 50 yards.killed bucks on 10-29-2018 8:30 am & 11-18-2018 7:00 am. This is a pretty narrow government strip with red and white Oak and some cedar.no water and some Brier.If you want me to provide all my harvest date and time I'll post them.hope it helps.

What a goofy study. ONLY covered stands where the hunters were dropped off????? Where I come from this is called hunting your pets. If one is too lazy to actually walk the path to a stand that is. Where I hunt people MUST walk to their strand. I wonder if they redid this study with that premise. (making ALL the hunter(?) in this SAME plot of land walk to their stands, walk around scouting twice to three timese a year. Like "real" hunters have to. Then tell us the difference in the patterns of these deer. Until that is done we learned nothing from this. It is only half a study.

Well damn, If people would quit hunting over food and actually go hunt the deer. These people aint really hunting it's called waiting or farming

@thehuntersight7548

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Yes and no, kinda short sighted statement. Most hunters are limited by acreage they can hunt. If you were to "go" after deer on a 100 acres or 300 acres it wouldn't be long and the deer would be gone as this study shows. Also, if your neighbors hunt around you and all the parcels in the area are 100 acres to 500 acres and they all grow food plots and set out feeders, but you don't do those things because you don't think it's "hunting" you will soon learn that all the deer will be on their property while you are out "going after" the deer as you say. You need cover, food, or water and some properties are lucky enough to have it all. Others only have one of the 3 items needed. A good hunter understands the property they are hunting and how the animals use it and picks the best style of hunting for success - spot and stalk, still hunting, or ambush...

@paulpower2680

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When you go fishing do you drag a bare hook around in the water hoping to snag a fish, or do you bait the hook?

@robbobcat7286

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@@paulpower2680 this also applies to using fish finders

Thanks!

@DeerAssociation

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Thank you for your support, Tim! And thanks for watching!