For Vegeta, I believe the ability to destroy planets is in his power, the reason for this thought is that Roshi in the first tournament destroyed the moon and Vegeta was able to destroy Nappa with one blast who had the durability to take attacks from the Z-fighters who were stronger then Roshi at the time and absolutely body them.

@lightyoshiman

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that honestly shows how much more psychotic vegeta was in the saiyan and namek saga he must have known that blowing up the planet would have killed him as well yet he didn't care man went for broke and said fuck everything even my own life its funny how vegeta's worse enemy's goku and frieza ended up saving his life by repelling his attack's (even though the latter ended up killing him anyways)

@christiancinnabars1402

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Vegeta _definitely_ could have destroyed the Earth. Goku was forced to stand there and try to contest his Galick Gun specifically because of that reason. Otherwise, Goku, who could briefly attain a higher level of power than Vegeta and thus would know exactly how strong his attacks could be, would have just dodged the attack and not put himself pretty much out of commission for the rest of the fight. Vegeta not being a planet buster turns that scene from a gotcha moment that a villain with no care for the planet would realistically do, to Goku just being dumb and falling for a lie he knows isn't true.

@bigpoggers6507

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Not only that, but if I remember correctly, the power to be able to destroy a planet is 10k, as said in one of the guidebooks, and Vegeta is at 18k, meaning he should be able to destroy nearly 2 planets at once

@VolatileViolet

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​@@bigpoggers6507 Aren't power levels non-linear? 18,000 could be well more than twice 10,000's actual output, if I recall correctly. I could be wrong, though.

@ryanshaw7716

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Vegeta def def def could destroy planets and most likely small stars in dbz. His old man flicked his hand and vaporized 2-3 planets at the same time and vegeta ( even back in the dbz days) was stronger than his father

Just because we don't see Raditz destroy the Moon doesn't mean he can't like what? He's shown to be stronger than Piccolo and Goku therefore he can do anything they can physically but on a greater level. As for Vegeta it was stated in the Daizenshuu that he can destroy a planet.

@levievil9220

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Wasn’t it even shown in the anime

@Seven_DB

Жыл бұрын

@@levievil9220 The bug planet one is filler but yes if he's counting the anime then it was indeed blatantly shown

@levievil9220

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@@Seven_DB even if filler isn’t cannon we know some is and some isn’t it was still stated even then I’d we compare goku piccolo and raditz to Nappa and vegeta it was stated that one saibaman was equal to raditz and that nappa was roughly three raditz so whatever raditz power level is times that by three however vegeta said he was worth ten raditz so multiply raditz by the great ape multiplier then you get vegeta’s and since it took a year for them to at least get near raditz and piccolo did blow up the moon so yeah vegeta even by the numbers still a planet buster

@mozuesolympian2988

Жыл бұрын

You don’t even have to go that far with Vegeta anyway, he is also at the time of the saiyan saga stronger than goku and piccolo and every other z fighter ( besides gohan) by far.

@Gogetasolos2314

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

He would have a hard time against Yamcha, but i think he would win. Once he gets to Piccolo its over.

@imsusanov2287

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You underestimate Yamcha, He fought like a clown in first tournament in second one he lost, because he fought a literal god

@Grakit-hf4th

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Yamcha could fight off a bunch of sabaimen (dunno how to spell it), and yea he got caught off guard by one of them, but he held his own pretty well. Each one has raditz's PL, which is already planetary , so rip naruto 🥺🥺. It's just not even fair to compare these two worlds.

@devanplays3509

Жыл бұрын

​@Grakit tell me, where do you scale Naruto? How is raditz planterary?

@Grakit-hf4th

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@@devanplays3509 I am assuming he can destroy some planets, since piccolo with 1/4ish of his PL could destroy the moon with low dif. As for Naruto? Naruto can produce some nuke level moves I guess, he can definetly destroy a whole country , given some hours. But here's the thing really, PL SUCKS. It's a leveling system. The feats shown by dbz characters , imo, look no better than naruto's or Sasuke's feats. And honestly I think genjutsu would destroy most dbz sayans.

@donaldtrumplover2254

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@@Grakit-hf4th Naruto should be fine up to the saiyan saga, a younger version of the dude tanked a moon splitting attack while barely trying. His ap should be around planetary. Piccolo jr in the 23rd tenkaichi would probably be just a little weaker than him.

Saiyan Saga seems pretty spot-on for Naruto. One quote that stuck with me is Madara bragging that his fight with Hashirama led to maps needing to be redrawn due to the damage they did. Looking at DBZ that kind of damage seems possible with Raditz-level strength. I'd place standard Madara at Raditz level and 10-tails Madara/Kaguya/finale Naruto & Sasuke closer to Nappa level but not quite Nappa level yet.

@devanplays3509

Жыл бұрын

That's a huge downplay to six paths characters

@Morrowind4732

Жыл бұрын

​@@devanplays3509 care to expand on why it's downplay?

@youngkevaun4204

Жыл бұрын

​@StandWithActman since he didn't give you an explanation mine would be that since y'all threw six paths characters in their it is a little down played when the 9 tails alone have multiple statements alone that says kurama has power to destroy the world then you go a step above with kurama being only one out of 9 pieces of the 10 tails which is literally nature itself being depicted as something unimaginable has statements and power that eclipses the 9 tails and we've only seen its weakest forms then kaguya got thrown in there and there is multiple ways you can go about her all Chakra is her Chakra so I mean if she absorbed all her Chakra back from the verse then she might just pull a shibai and evolve to a higher plane of existence but simple kaguya and the other otsutsuki above her all have statements and abilities that put them from to destroying stars to dimensions while also having the ability to create said dimensions and you have baryon mode naruto boxing the strongest of them shown so far so I mean it is a bit downplay to say they're around moon level characters when naruto in the last was tanking moon level feats now that is the naruto world so if you think the size of narutos world doesn't compare to DragonBall then take this all with a grain of salt I just wanted to provided some insight if you were genuinely interested

@TheGoaterGoat

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking cell saga early but I forgot about the Frieza sage of put him up there this guy really didn't lay down Naruto's abilities especially with his clones just gotta remember Naruto wears down his opponents by looking for a open similar to how Goku fights... not saying he could beat Frieza but Naruto wouldn't of let him transform either

@devanplays3509

Жыл бұрын

@@Morrowind4732 six paths level characters would scale higher than nappa level.

HOW DID YOU GET THAT RADITZ WAS NOT CAPABLE OF DESTROYING THE MOON?

@HomellAlcautor

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I can at the VERY least see Vegeta and the planet... But Raditz? He never tried to, but if he wanted to (which he wouldn't) the moon would be light work.

@pimpdemon9458

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​@@HomellAlcautor Raditz is stronger than piccolo who could destroy the moon therefor raditz is a moon buster its not that hard to get

@150Hello

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​@@pimpdemon9458 DragonBall gets lowballed quite a bit because people make the mistake of equating DC to AP, which would drastically downplay the level of power of literally ANY verse and not just DragonBall. Placing limits on a characters attack potency based off of arbitrary destructive feats is not the way to go, especially for a verse like DragonBall that has methods of concentrating and compacting attacks to individual targets or areas. By this logic ssj2 Majin Vegeta is Mountain level, Semi Cell is Island level, and Nappa is Large City level. It's almost like DB isn't a series entirely based around AOE, Ki control, and AP when it comes to fights... If we disregard Ki levels of characters and basic *common sense* then the characters with confirmed DC feats would be Roshi/Piccolo for destroying the Moon, Frieza for destroying Planet Vegeta and destabilizing Planet Namek, and Kid Buu for vaping the Earth. According to *downplayer logic* they'd be the only characters capable of these feats and no one else, even when others are directly confirmed in the story to have comparable or superior Ki output to these characters. So apparently when Perfect Cell was threatening to blow up Earth after getting his shit pushed in by ssj2 Gohan he was capping because clearly he's Mountain or Island level 😂 When Piccolo said Fat Buu could disappear the Earth in the blink of eye he was exaggerating because clearly Fat Buu was only a City Buster. Literally any time a character is blatantly worried about the Planet's stability from an attack, their lying to freak everyone out oBvIoUsLy, not like they can sense the Ki of the attacks or anything pffft 😂 *I just find it extremely hypocritical how for several other verses like RoR, Naruto, or Highschool DxD some are extremely quick to accept statements that they most certainly wouldn't have been so lenient towards if said statements were coming from DragonBall*

@pimpdemon9458

Жыл бұрын

@@150Hello yep

@tastedivinefury2198

Жыл бұрын

Never heard something this brain dead icl

Okay so multiple things. 1. Vegeta has beaten Goku, he did so in DBS: Super Hero. Both in base, no cheating, no powerups that the other doesn't have access to, just their own strength and techniques. And Vegeta won. 2. Vegeta did not destroy Earth, yes. But he directly stated that he not only could, but was going to. To disregard this statement is to disregard not only the narrative and author's intent, but also power scaling as a whole. Going off of only feats sounds nice and all until you realize that relative strength between characters is usually decided entitely by statements and not by feats. For example, Cell and Frieza. We have seen Frieza destroy Planet Vegeta in canon, so we know for a fact that he can do that. However, the most CELL has destroyed in canon is maybe a chunk of the ground that runs a mile deep at most. By feats alone, Frieza would murderstomp Cell; we only know Cell can beat Frieza because the characters within the story give statements that add credence to that idea. The reason authors use statements to justify power escalation instead of feats past a certain point is because they CAN'T use feats to portray a character's power past that certain point. A planet, a star, hell maybe even a solar system or a galaxy are able to be destroyed without repercussions occuring to the status quo of the series, sure; hence why we get stuff like Frieza destroying Planet Vegeta. However that is only the case when it ISN'T drastically altering the status quo. Vegeta destroying Earth in the Saiyan Saga would mean the end of the series, and obviously Toriyama does not want that to happen, so to convey to the reader the severity of the attack he's about to launch, he instead TELLS THEM that Vegeta is about to destroy Earth, and then has Goku stop him from doing that. Akira Toriyama has no reason to lie to the viewers in that scene, so if Vegeta says he can blow up the Earth, he can blow up the Earth. 3. In regards to what you said about Raditz, not doing something ≠ not being able to do something. Raditz is never shown to be incapable of destroying the moon, in fact Piccolo (who was weaker than Raditz by a substantial margin) destroys the moon at most a few weeks after the fight he had with Raditz. How did you even come to the conclusion that Raditz couldn't do that?

@zilla3659

Жыл бұрын

TOUCH SOME FUCKEN GRASS

@xelthekid2472

Жыл бұрын

i aint readin allat

@davizi6146

Жыл бұрын

@@xelthekid2472 Lmao

@StareachValcin

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​@@davizi6146 as for your 1st point about Vegeta, he did beat Goku in the saiyan saga, even if he resorted to using his great ape form. Vegeta was already naturally stronger than Goku, with Goku needing the kaioken technique to catch up. Once Vegeta transformed, he proved too much for Goku. Even trying to use the spirit bomb failed, and Goku almost died in that fight. Goku pretty much lost, and needed Gohan, Krillin, and even Yajirobe to help fight off Vegeta.

@davizi6146

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@@StareachValcin Their fight devolved from a 1v1 so he didn't actually beat Goku He WOULD have beaten Goku if it remained a 1v1, but that didn't happen

Some of the problem with comparing stuff to Dragonball is that 99% of the time, no one does anything overly impressive in Dragonball. They punch, vanish around (like in every other anime) and might blow up some rocks from time to time. Then suddenly we're assured that they're going to explode a star. They probably won't, but trust me. They're definitely making the universe shake, or whatever. For realsies. Most of the scaling of Dragonball comes from seeing something mundane and having a spectator character describe the mundane actions as being much more impressive than the artist is capable of depicting in a believable way.

lol just based on the first 2 minutes of the video, I can tell that your logic is flawed. Just because we don't see a character do something doesn't mean they are incapable of doing it. Raditz is obviously capable of blowing up a moon and Vegeta is obviously capable of blowing up planets.

@Beanhead_223

Жыл бұрын

didn’t vegeta say his galick gun was enough to destroy earth in the first goku vs vegeta fight

@jantheking7028

Жыл бұрын

@@Beanhead_223 Yup.

Dragon Ball was fairly underestimated here again, though not nearly as much as in the last video, so I can appreciate the steps in the right direction. But Roshi was capable of blowing up the moon in the 21st world martial arts tournament, the same tournament that he basically fought on par with Goku in. Then Mercenary Tao toyed with a stronger Goku after that. Basically, Mercenary Tao is going to put up a heck of a fight against, if not straight up beat high tier Naruto characters. Its not even a question when you get to King Piccolo.

@Unknownslenderman

Жыл бұрын

Just because Roshi had a single planet-busting attack (which required him to bulk, massively raise his ki and completely drained him of all energy) it doesn't mean that the Goku from back then was anywhere near planet-busting, or that all characters above that power level were capable of such feats. In a one-on-one fight, Roshi and Tien were pretty much equal, but Tien's most destructive and draining attack, the Kikoho, was nowhere near planet-busting back then. It took until a post-Raditz Piccolo using a charged special beam cannon (which is already a special, ki draining skill which requires him to raise his ki quite a lot) that another character was able to replicate the feat, with characters from Vegeta and Nappa onwards being the ones that could consistently pull off that kind of stuff with relative ease.

@ikeillue8385

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@@Unknownslenderman It wasn't a planet busting attack, it was a moon busting attack, and yes it quite literally does mean that. Unless you are going to argue that Roshi was capable of one shotting any enemy that came after, up until Vegeta, they are capable of that level of power. Whether it required Roshi to go all out on the attack or not is completely irrelevant. The point is, he has that level of power within him, and is capable of using it. Yes, Roshi was fighting more or less on par with Tien, and was even on the losing end of that fight, but Tien had never performed an attack on that level before. That doesn't mean that Tien isn't capable of performing such a feat. The fact that he was capable of overpowering Roshi, who was capable of pulling off the feat, quite literally proves that he could have done said feat, if he so chose. However, he had no reason to perform a feat on such a massive scale, and considering how much of a waste of efficiency it is, it would be silly to do it at all (waste of efficiency due to the concept of pressure. He could send out an attack that blows up the moon. Or he could take that same amount of force, and compress it into an area the size of his opponent, and increase the potency of the attack by an exponential amount.). Even ignoring all the above points, your paragraph about Piccolo is faulty. Piccolo did not require a ki raising charged attack to replicate that feat. He quite literally blows up the moon on a whim, with a quick casual energy blast, no charging required.

@MWMTEE

Жыл бұрын

Dbz guys over hype everything db and lowball everything else

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

@@MWMTEE What did I overhype? Everything I said about Dragon Ball is straight up taken from the canon material. Did Roshi blow up the moon? Yes. Did Goku fight more or less on par with Roshi? Yes. Did Tao put the beat down on Goku in their first fight? Yes. I don't understand how I overhyped anything here. As far as low balling, I haven't seen/read all of Naruto (the only other series I mentioned), so its possible. However based on what I have seen (I stopped watching in the middle of the Ninja war near the end of Shippuden), and what I have been told, the best feat in Naruto, was a character cutting the moon in half. I've heard people try to argue that Naruto characters are upwards of even star level, because you can see a star in alternate dimensions, but that reasoning is about as flimsy as a single layer of shrink wrap.

@barletproductions

Жыл бұрын

@@ikeillue8385 idk i'd say if his feet were a bit longer goku would have beat roshi at that time, it was anyone's fight sure but that final blow is what took the cake

Just cuz he didn’t do it doesn’t mean he couldn’t vegeta was gonna destroy the earth with his galick gun

@cc31reaper

Жыл бұрын

Also in manga when nappas attack was shown outside earth it covered a lot of land I feel like he could also blow up the earth

@HomellAlcautor

Жыл бұрын

​@@cc31reaper nappa showed a continent worth and in the anime, at least a country.

Man just discovered this channel and I'm loving it. At first I thought you had 870K subscribers because of the quality of the videos and stuff. Keep up the great work man, soon you'll reach the top

cant wait for more vids on this man! Keep up the good work!

Would love to see you cover ichigo from bleach, deku from MHA, and Seiya from Saint Seiya.

@oldmanprod

Жыл бұрын

I was just about to comment this😂😂

@EmperorXCIX

Жыл бұрын

@@oldmanprod great minds think alike

@buurman534

Жыл бұрын

one of these is not like the others

@sonicknuxgames5776

Жыл бұрын

In my opinion... Ichigo Is one of the strongest on his verse at The moment, some people say Aizen and Ichigo are 4D(Universal) and I agree anything above that is a Highball. But considering the cosmology of Dragon Ball is Bigger than Bleach I feel like he will only reach Buu saga at best( Buuhan, Mystic Gohan and Vegito are too much for him). Deku will NOT get past Demon King Piccolo, Bro overpowered someone who had enough DC to Destroy the MOON. (Deku is Contry level? Right?) And Seiya... Well idk much about him but I remember people saying he is Multiversal or something like that in the past so with this little information I have, I Will say he will clear OG DB, DBZ and anime DBS, Idk about the Manga (Granolla arc).

@huejanus1333

Жыл бұрын

@@sonicknuxgames5776 anime goku is stronger than manga goku tbh

1:13 Both Mr. Popo and Kami can easily destroy King Piccolo. Kid goku, who was much stronger than king piccolo at that point in the story, could not even touch Mr.Popo. But it's a guideline for deities (Such as Kami) in Dragonball that they are not allowed to intervene directly in the affairs of mortals. And it's a good thing they didn't break that guideline, or else there would have been no one capable of stopping Raditz.

@Gogetasolos2314

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

I enjoyed these videos. A very fun series. I can't wait for the next video in the series.

Keep up the Amazing Work!

I like the Tien and Raditz respect They are stronger than people think

@Notkgbrown

Жыл бұрын

What raditz respect the man can’t blow up the moon apparently

@jocoolshow

Жыл бұрын

@@Notkgbrown Raditz fodderized Piccolo who could blow up the moon. Piccolo being stronger than 23rd Budokai Piccolo and Goku who are stronger than King Piccolo Saga Goku who’s stronger than King Piccolo who’s stronger than Roshi who could blow up the moon

Tien was never Goku's rival. Tien beat Goku on a technicality then got washed every time he fought Goku onwards. I thought it was well understood that Tien is Yamcha's rival. You're saying none of Goku's rivals have beaten him? Krillin beat Goku in retrieving the turtle hermit's stone by being deceitful. Piccolo killed Goku after Goku voluntarily gave up to stop Raditz. Vegeta beat Goku, legitimately, in their first encounter on Earth. Vegeta sucker punched Goku in the Buu saga. Hit beat Goku in the U6 vs U7 tournament. Vegeta beat Goku, legitimately, in the DBS Cell Max movie.

@HomellAlcautor

Жыл бұрын

It was the Super Hero movie. But yeah. They were to busy getting that ass beat by Broly to do anything alone.

@fdd4957

Жыл бұрын

@@HomellAlcautor TY for the correction.

@Yanhime97

Жыл бұрын

Do we really count Krillin getting the stone before Goku? Like yeah, he won that competition but I figured, based on context, he was talking about Goku's rivals beating him in a fight. By that merit I wouldn't count Piccolo killing Goku in the Saiyan saga either, since Goku voluntarily took the blast in order to defeat Raditz. He and Piccolo weren't even fighting each other, it was a 2v1. Same goes for Vegeta's sucker punch in their Buu saga rematch. They'd stopped fighting already, he knocked Goku out while he was unaware and didn't have his guard up. I don't think it's totally fair to say Tien's win was based on a technicality either since it was just the rules/format of the tournament but if you do wanna go with that logic, you gotta conceed a couple of the ones you listed.

@fdd4957

Жыл бұрын

@@Yanhime97 I like your points. The reason I used Tien's technicality win(the car) and Krillin's technicality win(throwing a fake rock), as well as the others, was not to say their wins were count and Tien's does not. I was pointing out the inconsistent logic of the KZreadr in saying Tien was the only rival of Goku's to get a win.

@KojiroNoGanryu

Жыл бұрын

What's actually funny is that Goku has actually never beat Vegeta in any of their fights.

Great video man! You definitely deserve more subs, good stuff. However, I do wish you included fears the different forms have made haha. I think it would have made the video much more interesting

The Luffy correction really sold me on the whole series. Big Respect and you earned a sub

the power scaling issue that i always had with dragon ball is that from point where people started to casually destroy moons, every full power fight should destroy the planet they were fighting on

@princenwaegerue4705

Жыл бұрын

Ki control, it has always been a rule that by controlling your ki, you can control the area of effect of your attack. That's why when Goku couldn't control his power when he fought beerus in SSG, you could see the effect, once he could control God ki, he could then control the area of effect of the attack.

@Pworontocokwala

Жыл бұрын

@@princenwaegerue4705 that doesn't matter much... if you throw a ki blast of any sort, that wanted to hurt someone = planet destroying power, and they dodge it and it hit the ground, the result should be the planets end not just explosion and a small crater :) ... there would have to be some power by which they could turn off the rogue blasts that were already thrown it happens a lot too, when i started to notice it it bugged me everytime

@josephjoestar4628

Жыл бұрын

@@Pworontocokwala Ki control, and plot. It wouldn't make sense that Goku trying to protect earth accidentaly destroyed earth. But the perfect example is out of energy frieza, destroying earth with a lil ki blast in the ROF movie.

Great Video as always, could you please add Ichigo/Jotaro as next? Thanks!

@DA-x0yne

Жыл бұрын

An ichigo video would be nice as he's the strongest protagonist in the big 3 but as much as i love jojo's, if he covered jotaro the video would be about 1 minute long, he has building level strength so he's not damaging any top tiers in OG db and probably worse durability then Dio who had his leg cut off by a broken glass shard.

@k1ngprvz

Жыл бұрын

@@DA-x0yne Agreed!

@bendover8957

Жыл бұрын

@@DA-x0yne nah I could see jotaro getting to namek

@retardedautist

Жыл бұрын

@@bendover8957 How? Idk if you're being sarcastic or not, sorry.

@TheShonsi

Жыл бұрын

Ichigo clears DB and DBZ but loses at Beerus for DBS. However if he can be in Dangai Ichigo for the whole time then he may clear DBS up to Jiren.

Wow you know overlord, do a ainz in the DBZ world PLSSSSS, yesss thanks man :) keep up with the content

loving this series

Interesting video! I think it's kinda odd to cap him at Saiyan Saga though because against Android 19 and Android 20 who absorbs ki, Naruto's sage mode would totally end them since they're not used to Nature energy. Sticking to your rule about power levels being bullshit, I would say that there are some feats which Naruto and possibly some of his peers would excel at which the Dragon Ball universe characters would fail at which could lead to their death and vice versa. Visual prowess and traveling to other harsh unhabitable dimensions could wipe out a majority of Dragon Ball characters since they're not capable of dimensional travel or even teleportation/instant transmission (except Goku, Kid Buu and Gas). Also in the Naruto universe, having sage chakra is like having God ki in DBS. Not all fighters/ninjas can sense it or even understand it (sage chakra/god ki) but it enhances their regular attacks and puts them in a league of their own when compared to their regular roster of characters (for the DB world and Naruto world). Just want to add that i love both anime but the Naruto universe still allows further comparisons if we're not just looking at the fights from a chronological order and observe based on skills and different scenarios. TLDR: I think your video could have been in parts, possibly exploring enemies after the Saiyan saga because some later enemies might lose to Naruto because of differences in skills and not necessarily power scaling.

Vegeta’s arguably beaten Goku 2-3x. If the others hadn’t shown up, Goku would’ve been killed. Base form, Vegeta lost. It’s kind of a draw. Then Maijin Vegeta knocks Goku out-though Goku was holding out on him. Superhero, Vegeta wins sparring session. Probably the one time that’s an outright win.

@imsusanov2287

Жыл бұрын

Goku lost in his base and had to use kaioken Just as Vegeta used Great Ape So its a fair win for vegeta

@SonTaicario

Жыл бұрын

The second one doesn't count because they both agreed to stop

@zacksomers1811

Жыл бұрын

comparing sparring to a real fight is wild my dude

@speedbeyondlogic

Жыл бұрын

Goku won the beam clash and beat base vegeta. Oozaru vegeta beat goku but lost an eye in the process. The majin vegeta fight doesn't count and goku could've went ssj 3 and stopped vegeta. So technically that would've been goku's win. Goku beat copy vegeta. And vegeta has only won one spar but barely and that was a vegeta who had made slight improvements against a goku who hadn't made any and a base vegeta against a base goku. In a previous spar vegeta had went ssb against a base goku.

Great video. So Ichigo next please.

This is a cool idea. You should do Ichigo next!

Can you do how far would this goku guy get in dragon ball seems like an interesting character

This is a really interesting idea. I just hope you don't bring in characters drastically stronger than the DB world because then it would get pretty boring but for now this is honestly entertaining seeing how each character would do

@joselazo9799

Жыл бұрын

That's kind of tough to measure, when most DBS chars are 4th dimensional at this point. Hell end of GT goku was probably 5th dimensional.

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

The thing is, when you are looking at shear power, there really aren't many characters that are going to get terribly far in Dragon Ball. I mean, its like he pointed out in the last video, the power scaling in the Saiyan saga is already end of series power scaling for most anime out there (I would argue that the King Piccolo saga is already end of series power scaling for a lot of series.). However, if you are looking at over powered hacks, though there would be more, there still aren't going to be a huge number, because DB characters have a lot more hack resistances than what is immediately obvious, as well as their shear power is generally capable of making up for the difference.

@Stunt877

Жыл бұрын

@@ikeillue8385 that’s a lie if we only talking about shonen anime you may have a point because the most popular anime’s like one punch man,bleach,Toriko can compete or go far. But I know for a fact there are tons of isekai main characters that would solo the dbz and dragonball super verse.

@ikeillue8385

Жыл бұрын

@@Stunt877 I would disagree. Don't get me wrong, there are some crazy powerful characters out there. However, Dragon Ball's power scaling is frankly completely bonkers, even more so than a lot of people think. I mean, when you can legitimately say that casual massively multi universe busting power is significantly low balled for power scaling, that is saying something. And that goes the same, whether you use the BS that is dimensional tiering, or use more legitimate standards where infinite is infinite, regardless of what direction it is capable of.

@joselazo9799

Жыл бұрын

@@ikeillue8385 legitimate standards in fictional power scaling? I think it's more likely a difference in perspective rather than utter bullshit. Some people use metric some imperial, they both work.

i went to google an found really good decent pics of version 1 i feel like you didnt even try lmao. but good video all together

Awsome video that's I'm doing my own fan manga crossover not to be taking seriously as well I'm haveing fun with it and I look at other manga and other anime as alternate dimestions like the Multiverse.

We've got some severe downplay going on here, here's the low-mid ball scale for naruto that most vs debaters use: Kaguya was going to at bear minimum blow up a planet with the ETSO, you can also argue this as destroying the nearby moon as well, or even argue that there was a star in the area that she is STATED in the data book to destroy the entire thing, so the low end is planet destruction, mid is planet plus nearby moon, so large planet or a bit higher, and a lot of people just go with star level for this feat. In case anyone is curious, the high end is multi-universal due to creating endless spaces, and later momoshiki is absorbing power for 'dimensions'. Most people don't use universal for naruto cause it's kinda out of left field for the series, but the arguments are there and don't really contradict much. Right so we've got large planet-star level for Kaguya. Fused momoshiki in the manga is stronger than Kaguya, that's not really debatable, base momo is compared to her. And in the manga, naruto kind of almost beats him in 2 punches (I'm not joking, the anime fight is very different) So we've got Adult naruto in his normal form at large planet at bere minimum, so around Vegeta's level from the saiyan saga. If you use the 'star feat' instead, you end up with baryon mode at roughly final form freeza, not gonna get into that but that's roughly where the scaling ends up. To back up the planet thing, about 100 ninja were powering a cannon that was gonna destroy the moon. In the war arc, naruto amped the ENTIRE army of thousands by over 3x each, so he could blow the moon away with very low effort, further backing this up, the kyubi has a databook statement giving it "world shattering power", and the 10 tails energy is compared in size to a small planet, this same 10 tails is absolute fodder compared to boruto era naruto, so it's pretty consistant tbh.

@chadroullier6376

Жыл бұрын

Where would u think naruto would be then?

@sonic3000010

Жыл бұрын

​@@chadroullier6376 my guy literally said at bare minimum vegeta lv to final form freiza lv in his comment

@chadroullier6376

Жыл бұрын

@@sonic3000010 oh shit so naruto still mid?

@Bastolan

Жыл бұрын

@@chadroullier6376 lmao

@rifarira9160

Жыл бұрын

@@chadroullier6376 yeah, but not as low as yamcha like people usually says. Achieving final form freeza lvl for Naruto characters is quiet impressive, no?

The creator of naruto, Masashi Kishimoto stated himself that naruto and sasuke was around nappa level. I know you said power levels were bullshit, but i still think that it's relevant to take into consideration up to the point that frieza transform and the numbers gets too crazy. Well Nappas powerlevel is 4000 which means Naruto is about the same. The statement from Kishimoto was before naruto achieved baryon which is a huuuge bump compared to him before getting absolutely washed by jigen and ishiki. I think that form closes the gap between Nappas powerlevel of 4000 and vegetas of 18000. Naruto could probably put up a great fight againts vegeta on the same level that goku does, but all is lost when vegeta turns into a great ape

@hatred930

Жыл бұрын

First that's a fake interview. That was litterally never stated ever. It's been debunked a thousand times. Secondly Naruto and Sasuke in mutiple data books are stated to be planetary level bare minimum since they they fought kinshki and Momoshiki who are both stated to able to cut planets in half in there base forms. That's not even including other boruto vilians and even Kaguya star level destruction

@achans1611

Жыл бұрын

@@hatred930 oh didnt know that. But do you agree that Baryon Naruto could rival base vegeta?

@hatred930

Жыл бұрын

@@achans1611 really depends. If Vegeta is in character? Then yes. If he's bloodlusted and goes for the kill immediately? Probably not. Naruto at this point would most likely be equal to or greater than base Vegeta by smidge but in terms of speed, Vegeta scales higher, so if comes down to who's smarter and both Naruto and Vegeta in terms of battle iq are kinda stupid. There are countless times where Vegeta just keeps blasting even if it doesn't work (I.E vs Copy Vegeta and Perfect Cell) Naruto litterally has the perfect counter pick in Ishiki and still did the same stuff despite knowing it wouldn't work. Guys just like "welp if it didn't work the first two times, third time's the charm" Also there is still discussion on if Naruto six paths senjutsu would cancel out all ki blast based attacks since it nullifies any jutsu that isn't amped with nature or sage energy and chakra and ki work very smiliarly but we are going off topic. In short they can beat base sayian saga vegeta but definitely not great ape Vegeta

@TheGoaterGoat

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking Naruto now would be cell saga level but I did forgot about Frieza saga it's debatable tho people forget Naruto usually beats his enemies because of his clones and look for a weakness ehhh but to each there own I feel like this guy's a bit biased in his videos

@TheGoaterGoat

Жыл бұрын

oh and itachi has said before every justsu has a weakness I think that goes for technique as well

Considering that a pair of youtubers I watch that also do Naruto stuff basically put him in the same ranking, that being that they said that even Adult Naruto would need to get hella lucky to beat Saiyan Saga Vegeta, this is probably a fair ranking.

I have a request my guy!.... As a fellow KZreadr as well as a DragonBall fan fic voice actor/writer I would love to see how one of the Jujitsu Kaisen Characters fairs up in the Dragonball Universe.

While interesting in its own right, what I'm more interested in is; how strong could Naruto get if trained in that world with all the stuff around them? I think its a given that with the Ninetails+other stuff he has a lot more potential then the other humans, but other then that hard to guess how strong he could potentially get.

@BionAvastar3000

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Lee would actually be the king of DBZ with his dedication to training.

@KaiserMattTygore927

Жыл бұрын

I feel like he'd probably scale to the Human Z fighters probably a little bit above them but not quite anywhere near the Saiyan transformations.

Lol ppl are going to make naruto vs luffy the new goku vs Superman

I like theses videos. And I wonder who will be the first character to get past the frieza saga

I liked the correction on Luffy at the end, I was watching you giving Naruto a hard time and kept thinking back to the Luffy video like "He gave Luffy so many passes, why not Naruto? what is going on here?". At first I thought you gave Luffy a lot of benefit of the doubt for content, and making the video more entertaining. So I'm glad to find out it came from a genuine miscalculation, and good on you for correcting it here.

@ianprehoda9199

Жыл бұрын

Did he account for gear 5 from the manga in that video? I feel like having cartoon logic gets him about as far as Naruto's transformations would

@tompen94

Жыл бұрын

@@ianprehoda9199 He didn't, which made it even more weird.

"Vegeta has never truly beaten Goku either." He actually has now. In the newest movie.

@playathesaints9599

Жыл бұрын

and he did in the saiyan saga

this is the one thing debate i truly agree with. a lot of people underestimate saiyan saga power level in comparisan to other animes. so many naruto fans would disagree with this, but you did a great job explaining your argument.

@JBlazin-ht2mp

Жыл бұрын

No he didn’t most of his points were just bad and saying naruto would need baryon mode for piccolo jr but then saying he could also beat raditz who is way stronger than piccolo jr Another thing is to is that kishimoto the author of naruto did an interview where he was asked what’s the strong dbz character naruto could beat and he said Nappa which was before boruto so yeah bad

@heyya3207

Жыл бұрын

Kishimoto never said that

@maki_senpai

Жыл бұрын

i know he said he was ignoring power levels, but 22nd budokai roshi could destroy the moon with a kamehameha. Piccolo could destroy it casually with a simple ki blast. Raditz was clearly far stronger than him and Goku combined. Raditz would definitely give him a run for his money. He maybe even beats nappa if he uses baron mode. that’s where he stops though vegeta’s too much stronger

I like the idea

Love the videos mate and you seem to have a level head coming into this. My pick for this series: *theme music* my man... ICHIGOOOOO KUUURROOOOSAKKKIII! (honestly I don't expect him to get far tho he IS extremely fast and fast = strong in the dB universe. ) I say great ape vegeta level at the very least due to experience fighting huge monster targets on a regular basis. Maybe 2nd form freiza on HIS best day (full power bankai with hollow mask multiplier.) My reasoning is so high due to ichigos final gesuga tensho and even base ichigo right before that form throwing around aizen with ease. That form easily keeps up with freiza (first form). 2nd is where I think problems would occur. (Also see vastolorde ichigo vs 2nd resurrection ulqiourra. Dude is seriously a threat in both raw strength and combat prowess.)

Also in the one-piece thing with Luffy did you forget about his armament conquerors observation haki

You're forgetting Tien has the Mafuba right after the tournament which can work on someone stronger than yourself Not to mention he can fly, unlike Mercenary Tao.

Okay this video is FULL of incorrect information but it was super fun to watch and that’s all that really matters. Definitely will like and sub

This video just reminded me on how ridiculously overpowered Dragon Ball characters are The fact that Saiyan Saga Goku will have no hard time beating Naruto as he is now, makes me wonder how quick present day Goku would defeat him...maybe a nanosecond? anyway love these videos...keep it up! :)

Even though he isn't primarily an anime character, I think that dante from devil may cry(which does have an anime, but it is in no way the focal point of dmc) could probably do pretty well

@marcus7984

Жыл бұрын

Dante does have an anime

@pimpdemon9458

Жыл бұрын

Do well no dante would destroy dragon ball

@ncexistential4919

Жыл бұрын

@@pimpdemon9458 lol keep dreaming

@pimpdemon9458

Жыл бұрын

@@ncexistential4919 im just stating fact

@E.................

Жыл бұрын

​@@pimpdemon9458 no he wouldn't bro☠️☠️ at most tho I can see him beating Frieza with sdt

Popo having a power level of 1000 and not being able to beat king piccolo can easily mean two things either 1 popo isnt ever supposed to fight anyone or 2 he didn't have that power level during the king piccolo fight. As for raditz not being able to destroy the moon thats actually stupid he would literally scale above piccolo who did destroy the moon therefor raditz is a moon buster!

@AnimatorBlake

Жыл бұрын

He is Kami's attendant. Like Kami, he can't just leave the lookout whenever he wants.

@tlkfanrwbyfan8716

Жыл бұрын

It’s the pecking order. Everyone just knows Popo is the strongest

IMO, you should put out a video on exactly what you follow for Canon. That might help for future vids like this

you need to complete the Big Three trinity and Talk about Ichigo Next

Would love to see Gojo (JJK) because his power level is hard to determine and he has some of the best hack abilities in anime would be interesting to see how far his techniques could take him

@Mustache99

Жыл бұрын

The Only weakness Gojo has Is cursed tool like inverted spear and other sorcerers remove that and It Is GG, he has near endless Energy, can heal himself, Is untouchable

@clintonbehrends4659

Жыл бұрын

@@Mustache99 which why it's interesting how far he would get to

@burakkukun

Жыл бұрын

@@Mustache99 he will mostly die after the latest chapter tho, just guessing

@anon3631

8 ай бұрын

If you are using hax against an opponent who are many times stronger than you, it won't work in Dragon Ball. Gotenks and Super Buu can escape dimensions, Goku and Jiren could say "nah bro" to Hit's time based abilities just by being stronger. This applies to certain attacks that are much stronger than the user (like Kienzan, Makankosappo, Kikoho) etc. The only exceptions are Ginyu's body switch ability and Devilman's Devilmite Beam (but both of them get blitzed if they have no prep).

Popo could beat king piccolo, but just like whis, he can't interact with mortals

Wait, there's going to be a tier list?!

I'm curious to see when you do Yusuke, and Hiei from yu yu Hakusho

I'd put Naruto at about Nappa level at most. I haven't seen Boruto but from the clips I've seen of Baryon Mode I could see an argument for being able to put up a fight against Vegeta in the Saiyan Saga, but I think Vegeta could endure it long enough that it runs out of time. Though, I think that both Sasuke and Naruto together might be able to beat Vegeta because of the variety and uniqueness of their abilities relative to Vegeta's brute strength. But nobody in the Naruto universe makes it off Namek.

@jocoolshow

Жыл бұрын

Boruto era Naruto is either Star level. Solar System level, or Uni+ for scaling ridiculous above Kaguya who was gonna destroy at worst a dimension with a star and at best a universal space-time continuum

@Barnuses

Жыл бұрын

@@jocoolshow I don't understand this scaling system and how it was determined. But if it is in reference to the fact that Kaguya was about to destroy one of her dimensions, it is never stated how big the dimension is. The Death Star was only about 100 miles across and was mistaken for a moon. But that would only make it about 1/10th the size of our moon. And our moon is about 1/4 the size of the Earth. If Kaguya's dimensions were populated with planetoids the size of the Death Star in an area comparable to the orbit of the Moon around the Earth, that Solar System isn't the same as our real life Solar System. That would be small planet scale. The only other Time-Space Dimensions we see is Kamui, which is of undetermined size. Beyond being able to fit the 8 Tails. However, it still counts as a universe. So technically if Kaguya could blow up a universe the size of a golf ball then she is universe level. But not all universes are the same.

@Gogetasolos2314

Жыл бұрын

@@jocoolshow no not even close

@Gogetasolos2314

Жыл бұрын

@@jocoolshowkey word gonna destory so that means she’s not star level since she didn’t do it just using his logic btw

@Gogetasolos2314

Жыл бұрын

@@jocoolshowand nobody in naruto uni since they haven’t destoryed a universe

Who said Raditz is not capable of destroying the moon though ? Video itself is good but are you by any chance suggesting that sage mode Naruto is stronger Baryon mode, there's no getting higher than Baryon mode, I believe Naruto might have a good against Saiyan saga Vegeta assuming Vegeta's not gonna transform into Great Ape, he's not getting past Ginyu, the only problem against Saiyan saga Vegeta is Naruto's stamina his BM might run out before before Vegeta's

@AnimatorBlake

Жыл бұрын

Yea, Saiyans are born to fight for days on end. It's not looking good.

you should do Crono from Chrono Trigger next!

This is Way better and more believable than the Luffy video, I like that you adressed it

First off Naruto able to survive an attack that cut the moon in half also truth-seeking orbs are basically Naruto's version of dragon Ball Hakai beyond mode Naruto had to hold back because the power of that form was enough to destroy the planet and if uses the full power of it would have destroyed the planet or if used a bit too much energy from that form it would have destroyed the planet Naruto's Abel survive in space thank to chakra he has a healing Factor he can regenerate from certain things he had had been stabbed through the heart with a chidori and regenerating from it he's been stabbed with swords and just pulled it out and regenerated from it rasen shuriken is able to turn anything it hits into basicall dust because it hit somebody on basically a molecule level incinerating them Naruto is faster than light it's been stated and shown because he was able to dodge an attack that what's faster than light and lightning Naruto's immune to illusions thanks to him being a wielder of the Nine-Tails having nine-tailed beast and his tailed beast Ninetales giant has a certain attack the basically destroys half planet I would say final form freezer or kid Majin Buu beats him because their abilities but if he hits them with something like truth-seeking orbs rasenshuriken he wins but also anything that he hits with his beyond mode their life span is cut in half so if he hit somebody for example if somebody that was only able to live for two years you'll live for one year and if you hit them again they'll live for half of that and if he keeps on hiting them he can basically kill somebody just by him being there anyone also stage mode thing he's able to sense of surrounding so well that he's able to counter counter his enemies by sensing them far away and absorb energy from his surroundings purify energy be able to sense negative emotions killer intent and basically counter-attacks like that he's also able to create an army of Shadow clones

@nani4249

Жыл бұрын

Plus Naruto can give his nine tailed cloak to his allies, so piccolo, Roshi and krillin would get kurama bonus, so with that Naruto could beat Vegeta with piccolo and the others help (plus if Goku didn't exist the cast would have a wish on the dragon balls)

@the_lord_of_the_frenzied_flame

Жыл бұрын

He still would die against against the ginyo force tho Also i like how much effort you put into this comment

@caniget10ksubswithonevideo81

Жыл бұрын

@Shinzo Prod. Naruto beats everyone in the Saiyan Saga. He scales at least up to early Dragon Ball Super Goku.

@the_lord_of_the_frenzied_flame

Жыл бұрын

@@caniget10ksubswithonevideo81 early dbs goku is ssj3 can destroy Galaxies 🤦‍♂️what show are watching

@the_lord_of_the_frenzied_flame

Жыл бұрын

@Shinzo Prod. this is pure fax🔥

Naruto could honestly get to Cell if you use Kaguya and her Solar System Level scaling, along with using the Hagoromo and Sasuke speed calcs from the novels.

@ncexistential4919

Жыл бұрын

Frieza 1st form with only his finger destroyed a planet larger than jupiter, Naruto ain't even blinking and Cell destroys his verse

@150Hello

Жыл бұрын

The arguments for Solar System Naruto aren't solid enough and is mainly people using early mistranslations of the novel to wank and scaling to Creation feats with no context or given timeframe. Realistically, he's Moon Tier and can be scaled to Small Planetary at a bare minimum.

@gregkareem9824

Жыл бұрын

That got debunked multiple times Naruto isn't getting past saiyan saga level at all

@limbo9993

Жыл бұрын

@@150Hello I think they are pretty solid, Kaguya’s dimension blatantly has a star in it, and she was gonna destroy it. The calc for this is Solar System Level. As for speed calcs, although no direct time frame is given, it is described as either very quickly or something done on Hagoromo’s death bed, either would give a very fast result.

@150Hello

Жыл бұрын

@@limbo9993 The ETSB was an aoe that was going to encompass her realm, which had a star in the background, so you could say ETSB is at least large star level. But the Creations of the realms are unquantifiable due to us not seeing how they did it. We at least know that it's possible for them to form celestial bodies due to Hagoromo and Hamura creating the moon, but the missing context just doesn't help because for all we know they could've been making each individual Celestial Body in those realms over time rather than just hand waving a mini big bang into existence. Also, it doesn't help that creation capabilities don't necessarily translate to combat related stats like Ap and Durability most of the time, there's literally characters in fiction that form entire Galaxy or Universe size realms and then get shat on by characters that aren't even Planet level in AP... yeah, you can see why I don't place too much confidence in this scaling. So, the ETSB scaling is the only quantifiable thing that can be used to highball Naruto. The problem with that, though, is that it's an attack that he hasn't proven to scale to because Kaguya had to go to her root dimension and then steal chakra gathered from people trapped in IT to even form the ETSB so her standard level of Ap isn't at that level either. It would be an entirely different story if Naruto fired off an equally powerful attack and clashed with it or destroyed the etsb with his ap. If he had like a Boros V Saitama or Goku V Vegeta type clash against it, then he would be accepted at that level. But as it stands it just requires too many leaps in logic to scale him to it, which is why most just stay conservative and place Naruto at Moon to Planetary rather than place him at Large Star or Solar.

Please do Ichigo next

If you're doing videos like these, you gotta do Gurren Laggon vs DBZ. Simon, and his peak with the Gunman.

Would love to point out, the creator of Naruto has stated that his characters would only be as strong as nappa.

@infamousof3008

Жыл бұрын

This was a lie. Kishimoto never said anything like this. These were fake interviews that never actually happened.

This guy barely knows what he is talking about. 🤦

Do Ichigo Next

I think naruto realistically would only need kurama link mode to win against piccolo, just considering naruto's feats in the imperfect link mode

@BONECA-S3XU4L

Жыл бұрын

How? I mean, we do have some nonsense god like jutsus thanks to Boruto, but Naruto doesn't have this Jutsus to use, Picolo tanks planet level blasts and Naruto barely have power to destroy a moon, lol

@ay00wtf

Жыл бұрын

blud piccolo will literally put naruto and kurama + baryon mode inna box

@Thunfischpudding

Жыл бұрын

​@@BONECA-S3XU4Lnaruto tanked a moonsplitting attack in his lowest version of the "furrymode" wich means his strongest version could at least in defense take much more then Piccolo

@BONECA-S3XU4L

Жыл бұрын

@@Thunfischpudding How? Sayan Saga Picolo blasted the moon from Earth in seconds, not only split, and now he is idk times stronger because Dragon Ball scale is annoyingly bad

@Thunfischpudding

Жыл бұрын

@@BONECA-S3XU4L as i said naruto tanked an attack wich cut the moon of the narutoverse literally in half. How? Because he is strong enough to do so and once again this was in his nearly base form

Naruto at his peak during the shippuden era is powerful when compared to characters during the era of the original dragonball, but I honestly think that his best wouldn't be enough against King Piccolo at his peak, much less Piccolo during his tournament fight with Goku. So, Naruto wouldn't be able to compete with Raditz, unless he could figure out Raditz's tail weakness, which only Goku and his close friends would know about. Also, as for the matter on Tien, not only is he NOT the only rival character to defeat Goku, but his "victory" is merely a technicality since it was decided by outside interference, rather than Tien winning on his own merits. If Goku hadn't been hit by a passing truck, Goku most likely would have won his first tournament match against Tien. Not to mention that Goku legitimately won the rematch and Tien never catches up to Goku. Vegeta has also defeated Goku, and I am not referring to their sparring match in dragonball super superhero. Vegeta defeated Goku in the saiyan saga, even if he had to resort to using his great ape form. Vegeta at that point was already naturally stronger than Goku, with Goku needing the kaioken technique just to catch up. However great ape Vegeta was too much for Goku, with him even stopping Goku from successfully using the spirit bomb. If it weren't for Gohan, Krillin, and even Yajirobe, Goku would have died in his fight with Vegeta.

@selfishbeats

Жыл бұрын

his peak wasn't Shippuden era. he had to 2v1 characters he could now fight solo.

You mentioned him in the video, but I'd love to see how Ainz Oowl Gown (spelling may be wrong) would fare

Another great video, i would like to see either meliodas or escanor for a next one because i think they can put a very good fight against vegeta and nappa, maybe even win

@AnimatorBlake

Жыл бұрын

They most assuredly cannot, but yea it would be fun.

Finally More correct scaling But Raditz is already overkill Considering That Master roshi And Piccolo was able to destroy moon And Raditz easily was dominating Piccolo and goku So it means that Raditz can with snap of his fingers destroy moon But still You tried your best Its still almost correct And you fixed Luffy scaling (finally) :D

@leetrolling2911

Жыл бұрын

He didn't use gear 5 tho

@alibeknorbekov5963

Жыл бұрын

@@leetrolling2911 okay And?

a few things I wanted to point out firstly tien never really "beat" goku for all intents and purposes tien lost that fight in fact he admitted it himself that he only won through luck not skill goku was about to ring tien out until that random truck came by and hit goku causing him to fall to the ground before tien did. Secondly I don't think Naruto would need baryon mode to deal with piccolo full biju mode or at the very least six path mode would be more than enough I think this because one thing about naruto is that he's more than just faster than the eye can see the sharinagan is capable of tracking things much faster than the human eye can see and Naruto has at times moved faster than even sasuke's sharingan can keep track of I feel like Naruto's just too fast for the whole dragon ball saga characters arguably even some of the Z cast. And lastly Naruto's not a straight up fighter like a lot of dragon ball characters are he takes advantage of them lowering their guard and uses trickery to get by even some of the stronger opponents

@barletproductions

Жыл бұрын

"I feel like Naruto's just too fast for the whole dragon ball saga characters arguably even some of the Z cast" I assume you mean BEFORE Cell and Buu becuase I hate to start an argument man but Buu, Cell, Piccolo, and a bit of the z fighters are too fast for really anything now, hell yamcha is now canonically Z Broly level of strength which at that time literally no one could out run let alone actually hurt. Also pic in the buu saga was stronger than cell in perfect form if i remember right, we don't even talk about the rest of the gang who arguably didn't train yes. but in terms of power and speed i think the z fighters got him beat, hell Krillin a straight up every day human being is the level of a super saiyan blue now.

Bro you know you have to do ichigo next

would cover video game characters in this as long as it makes sense

You lost me right at the beginning with the rule 1 thing because that's not why power levels are bullshit. The scaling up to that point was very consistent with Roshi being a moon buster with some effort and Piccolo being a casual moon buster, to even suggest that Raditz is weaker than that is silly. Not to mention he destructive capabilities and attack potency are not the same thing, by your logic Majin Vegeta is only mountain level because we never saw him destroy anything bigger, but that's not how scaling works. When the basic premise of your video is so flawed i'm not sure how much i can trust the rest of it.

Vegeta stating he will blow up the planet and goku acknowledging that knowing his only shot is to stop that attack* This guy: Cap

This makes me think of how cool a Great Ape Vegeta VS Kurama fight would be.

@tlkfanrwbyfan8716

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t be very cool unless you wanna see Kurama get slaughtered

Do one of Itachi And Madara 🗣 Also one of iishiki from Boruto would be cool too

Saiyan Saga Vegeta is very casually a planet buster.

Do ichigo next

Can u do Meruem?

Gotta remember that power levels are literally bullshit in canon. The whole point of Saiyan+Freeza sagas is that those numbers mean nothing.

Imagine how Naruto would react if he had his potential awaken by Guru

You should definitely do Saitama or Garou

Can you do ichigo please next

With Banryon mode, he could maybe handle Raditz and maybe slowly burn though Nappa's stamina and knock him out, but Vegeta stomps pretty hard.

About the only Naruto/Boruto characters that imo stand any reasonable chance at getting out the Saiyan Saga would be some of the Ootsutsuki characters or characters with the fancy new "god-tier" techniques, that could potentially punch above their weight simply by hax alone for a bit.

Saying Raditz didnt seem capable of destroying the moon is insane...

Can you do a How Far Would Asta from Black Clover get in dragon ball? And including the manga as well

Can you do ichigo next that would be really interesting and personal I think he probably last until fat buu.pls 🙏

Please do Sailor moon next ! I am confident she can hold her own all the way to current Dbs

I can't believe Borutos dad has a cool prequel series

Crying baby (Naruto) Vs Hydrogen bomb (anybody in Dragonball)

I get that you're trying to keep it to five bouts, but no mention of Nappa seems a bit weird. Nappa doesn't have the tail weakness but can't do the Blutz wave ball. I guess that means that it'd go down to the wire, but still, would've been nice for him to be covered.😊 Edit: I know this would be a pain in the butt for you to work out, but I would vote for Saitama.

@schlime9983

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saitamas whole schtick is that he scales with his exponent and then some. He is literally a parody of overpowered anime characters and the only one I can see feasibly beating him is zeno because zeno can just will saitama out of existence.

@TheGerkuman

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@@schlime9983 but he's not that smart. I reckon that Cell or Gohan-Buu could outwit him.

@alexandrosandreou8585

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​@@schlime9983 ain't no way your using this outdated Saitama bullshit seriously, do I even have to debunk this shit I already did it 2 years ago when Saitama meat riders were using this garbage , ssj3 goku from buu saga is universal and he wipes the verse end of story, also Saitama isn't a gag character if you think so then you haven't watched the show

I found the fights in Naruto didn’t get like DBZ fights until basically the very end of series. So you could put Naruto somewhere in the ballpark of Piccolo Jr saga in Dragon Ball to early Namek Saga in DBZ which is around when we had similar kind of fights play out. I think by the Ginyu Saga there is no way Naruto is that strong.

How exactly would Naruto know to even grab Radditz's tail? People just say shit like this as if everybody just knows that Radditz has that weakness.

I wanna see you do Wang Ling against Dragon Ball or even Griffith against Dragon Ball (with proper research)

Do Ichigo Kurosaki next

Can you do saitama next pls i want to know what level he is or where art is his level