How Fake IDs Are Made For Movie And TV Characters | Movies Insider

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Creating truly convincing fake IDs for film and TV requires an obsessive attention to detail - and things can get thorny with the law.
We visited Ross MacDonald, a graphic prop artist in Connecticut, and The Hand Prop Room, a prop house in Los Angeles, to find out what it takes to forge realistic ID cards and documents for fictional characters. They break down the ins and outs of creating authentic-looking IDs for movies and TV shows set in every era. Plus, they walk us through some of the legal issues that this work brings up and explain how they avoid running into trouble with the law.
The artists at The Hand Prop Room demo their process for creating convincing on-screen IDs for movies like "Black Widow" and shows like "Bones." They demo how they replicate specific security features of contemporary IDs, from the embossed numbers on a California driver's license to the holographics found on many modern passports.
Ross shows us how he meticulously recreates historical passports, driver's licenses, and government agency IDs for shows like HBO's "Boardwalk Empire," laboring over details as tiny as the perforated edges on a historical stamp.
The Hand Prop Room was behind the McLovin fake ID in "Superbad" - a prop that was supposed to look unconvincing - but most of the studio's work focuses on making IDs look as authentic as possible on screen. It has created prop IDs for "Sex and the City," "The Hangover Part II," "Zodiac," "The Departed," "Mare of Easttown," "Black-ish," "Ted," and "Two and a Half Men," and other kinds of props for "Mank," "Little Women," "The Mandalorian," "The Hunger Games," "Pirates of the Caribbean," and "Grey's Anatomy."
Ross has created graphic props for over 100 movies and shows, including "The Hateful Eight," "John Wick," "Silver Linings Playbook," "National Treasure: Book of Secrets," "The Report," "The Adjustment Bureau," "Parks and Recreation," "The Assassination of Gianni Versace," "The Book of Eli," and "The Legend of Zorro." One of Ross' specialties is creating painstakingly accurate historical documentation for period settings. His upcoming book, "Prop Man," is out in May.
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  • @jasonlovi8745
    @jasonlovi87452 жыл бұрын

    Props to this guy. These props are seen for only a few seconds but the amount of work he puts into each one is amazing.

  • @I_WANT_MY_SLAW

    @I_WANT_MY_SLAW

    2 жыл бұрын

    They get paid the big bucks

  • @subhabaskaran1849

    @subhabaskaran1849

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@I_WANT_MY_SLAW and so? The comment point doesn't change either way he still did a amazing even if you weren't given a massive amount doing a job with a lot of dedication and skill just won't appear out of nowhere you seem bitter

  • @jspiro

    @jspiro

    2 жыл бұрын

    Props... hehe.

  • @I_WANT_MY_SLAW

    @I_WANT_MY_SLAW

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@subhabaskaran1849 why are we giving props to someone for doing thier job? Especially one they get paid handsomely for? If he didn't do it, then someone else would. Do you give props to the guy who makes your coffee at starbucks, or the cashier who rings up your groceries?

  • @Khronogi

    @Khronogi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@I_WANT_MY_SLAW if anything, this guy gives props to movie studios.

  • @alap1983
    @alap19832 жыл бұрын

    I could feel the document creator's heart saddened when Steve Buschemi's character just hands over the prop (without opening). ALL That trouble to be accurate, and the prop isn't even properly visible on screen.

  • @2Fast4Mellow
    @2Fast4Mellow2 жыл бұрын

    The Dutch passports are indeed pretty accurate. What stood out to me (as a former Dutch citizen) was the missing SSN (called BSN in Dutch)... Reminds me of the prop money episode where they also had to balance between authenticity, realism and avoiding counterfeiting charges/investigations.

  • @EvaLasta

    @EvaLasta

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean dont they have proof they are just making it for a movie lol? Does law enforcement just watch movies looking for people with accurate IDs and go arrest them? 🤣

  • @donnawoodford6641

    @donnawoodford6641

    2 жыл бұрын

    There are many pages to a passport. On the stamp pages, if it's not relevant to the movie, should include, "Inauthentic. Made for the purpose of movie__________ only." Expiration date should be last day of filming. Passports need to be updated every ten years??? So, vintage passports from 1920 wouldn't be valid 100 later. The passport holder's photo wouldn't be current, and that person would likely be dead anyway. No legal case would hold up in court. Give us a break! Any charge would be frivolous at best.

  • @NickyHendriks

    @NickyHendriks

    2 жыл бұрын

    I saw more things like the incorrect font of the bottom rows of machine-code, the missing signature, that fact that the gender is only written in English-format, not V/F or M/M. Maybe the most important one: the photo isn't up to standards as required by Dutch law.

  • @YachtyBurner

    @YachtyBurner

    Жыл бұрын

    je kan het BSN gwn uit de nummers aan de onderkant halen

  • @xoxolovechristielynn
    @xoxolovechristielynn2 жыл бұрын

    Prop masters are the unsung heroes of film making. I remember seeing a video all about prop food in film and television and it’s so incredibly complex! Because not only do the props need to look real, they also can’t make any noise otherwise they’ll be picked up by the mics. Example: Instead of real ice or even plastic, they make ice cubes out of silicone or something like that so that it doesn’t clink around in the glass. So many minute details that we never really notice but require days/weeks to create. Even though we don’t really notice these things, they absolutely add to the entire vibe of the scene so these small things like ice in a glass or stamps on a passport are so important. They create an environment where viewers can truly be immersed into a storyline and not be pulled out into reality by a continuity error or distraction. Thank you, prop workers. 👏🏼

  • @mark4d148
    @mark4d1482 жыл бұрын

    Great skill and dedication to the craft that literally only appears for seconds in a film/show.

  • @linmyat2982
    @linmyat29822 жыл бұрын

    I think film creatives should properly communicate on the details necessary before the artists begin designing the props. The amount of work involved is incredible and the craftsmanship is excellent. But if it's not going to be used for its purpose, I find that it's such a waste.

  • @gabrieltomete4751

    @gabrieltomete4751

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think quite the contrary, if the production studio want to bear the cost for this guy to preserve history that might get lost to time in a few years I think that's great. Once this guy has made a perfect replica it can be used again in other movies by simply changing the name and picture.

  • @thebasketballhistorian3291

    @thebasketballhistorian3291

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same but... 1. Prop artists will earn less money. 2. The filmmaking process is fluid. The director may change his/her mind whether a close up of a prop is needed or not for a scene as they are filming.

  • @Laotzu.Goldbug

    @Laotzu.Goldbug

    Жыл бұрын

    The problem is that is impossibly Impractical. These props take months to produce so they must be ordered ahead of time. How exactly is seen is going to go down maybe change many times from the time when that was ordered. It's better to have the full version so you can have as many options than to get a Half Baked version that limits what you can do in the same I'm sure that the pot makers feel some sadness when their work is not fully highlighted, but at the end of the day they are there to serve the production and not just to be artists. People say that these individuals often don't get enough credit or attention, and I don't know if that's true or not, but at the end of the day the thing being made is a movie, and everything is in service to that.

  • @afib4968
    @afib49682 жыл бұрын

    A very interesting profession. The attention to detail is impressive

  • @djdoc70
    @djdoc702 жыл бұрын

    I could never do this for a living. This attention to detail would be too much for me.

  • @EvaLasta

    @EvaLasta

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would have an OCD overload

  • @SayAhh

    @SayAhh

    Жыл бұрын

    McLovin

  • @yekaesh
    @yekaesh2 жыл бұрын

    I had no idea this was even a job. I’ve always been good at counterfeiting and would’ve loved to do this.

  • @Nikunj_Goel

    @Nikunj_Goel

    2 жыл бұрын

    You should seriously consider this as a prospective occupation for yourself then.

  • @pierreuntel1970

    @pierreuntel1970

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean... just make prop money and use it.... no employment needed!

  • @Nikunj_Goel

    @Nikunj_Goel

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pierreuntel1970 haha... It's all fun and games until you get busted

  • @pierreuntel1970

    @pierreuntel1970

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Nikunj_Goel if you THAT good at counterfeiting then you probably wont ;)

  • @bhushanshetye196

    @bhushanshetye196

    2 жыл бұрын

    the fact that you had the guts to post what can be called a "confession of a crime'' on the internet

  • @edstella
    @edstella Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad this video is online! I love seeing behind the scenes work in these prop studios (I love crafting things) and always wondered how they do this! As I just got my renewed license and switched out my expired one, I noticed that my new one felt cheaper in comparison because they changed the plastic, so it got me wondering how they're made. This video is close enough that it scratches the itch without feeling like I'm doing something nefarious.

  • @jhonbus
    @jhonbus2 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting! The prop maker seems like he's got some really interesting things to say about his work, It's a shame we barely got to hear from him because of the style of the video, I'd love to hear more. The actual in depth stuff about his work and skills would be great to hear about, and some of the detail about how he stays on the right side of the law. I imagine he documents all his projects meticulously - who ordered what props and why, and how each piece can be distinguished from the real thing. Probably also has to submit to unannounced inspections. Probably on first name terms with the local real FBI folks :)

  • @ayuu.
    @ayuu.2 жыл бұрын

    That is why I love to focus on tiny details that no one gives a care about. Because the amount of work that goes through them are often very respectable that made a big difference for the film. Kudos to all the behind-the-scenes staff

  • @caveman1226
    @caveman12262 жыл бұрын

    I respect the craftsmanship that this guy brings to the table, but I imagine for 99% of use-cases this level of detail is completely unnecessary. It would be like having a mechanic meticulously build the engine of a car from scratch just so it’s historically accurate, even though they know the car will never be driven let alone opened up and looked at.

  • @NightOwl_30
    @NightOwl_302 жыл бұрын

    I do the same job in London and yeah, it's exactly like that. It sounds very complicated but it's a lot of fun and the best part of the job is getting to find loads of interesting stuff about the past. We graphic designers for the industry don't do just IDs and documents though. We do anything from a handwritten note to any graphics seen on a screen like a news banner or a fake website design.

  • @creedbratton7517

    @creedbratton7517

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you tell me your story about how you got into this as I am really wanting to lol

  • @miss.g-shun-w
    @miss.g-shun-w Жыл бұрын

    These peaks behind the proverbial curtain and into the real Hollywood movie magic are so much fun! Keep them coming!

  • @Ward413
    @Ward4132 жыл бұрын

    I remember playing the video game LA Noire set in the 1940’s and getting such a kick out of all the old paperwork. From the black California drivers licenses to the super accurate administrative text on a vehicle pink slip - that game really went out of its way to faithfully recreate 1940’s Los Angeles.

  • @studiouslazaras3975
    @studiouslazaras39752 жыл бұрын

    So the art of making a fake ID for film is making sure they don't look too real

  • @abegarfield7638

    @abegarfield7638

    2 жыл бұрын

    I used to make fake IDs when I was in school. They were pathetic, an idiot wouldn't have fell for these things. ....but incredibly, they worked. Word got around and I made quite a lot of money making these cheesy, phoney looking things. Since lazser printed photos and holograms were introduced, they've become near impossible to recreate at home. Back then all that was needed was a computer, a printer and a cheap laminating machine (or a hot iron would work).

  • @shan8130
    @shan81302 жыл бұрын

    I kind of love how much (probably unnecessary) detail this man puts into his props. I like to think he’s just having a good time and doesn’t GAF how much is actually shown.

  • @_Super_Hans_
    @_Super_Hans_2 жыл бұрын

    This was a very interesting video. Great idea!

  • @Megaritz
    @Megaritz2 жыл бұрын

    A decade ago, I did a lot of scambaiting. A lot of scammers would contact me, thinking I was a potential victim, and I would them them on for weeks or months. It was fun. They sent me a lot of fake IDs to "prove" who they were claiming to be, many of them very obvious fakes, though some more realistic. Some scammers do steal IDs from real people to reuse. But one of the scammers, who was impersonating an FBI agent, actually sent me an image of an FBI badge from the X-Files.

  • @NYCAppl3
    @NYCAppl314 күн бұрын

    I'm completely fascinated by this kind of work!

  • @aisadal2521
    @aisadal25212 жыл бұрын

    Ooh, I've always wondered about this!

  • @robertalford8061
    @robertalford80612 жыл бұрын

    Nice work....I guess even if you don't really see it on screen, remember movie props sell big money depending on the movie and actor....so if the actual actor signs it.....it can end up in a man cave or a collection somewhere and someone does get to appreciate the time put into it

  • @filmcrew3531
    @filmcrew35312 жыл бұрын

    I love my industry! Props to the Pros in Props!

  • @samr2494
    @samr24942 жыл бұрын

    I would love to do this for a job!

  • @qwerty_5760
    @qwerty_57602 жыл бұрын

    1:24 welp time to buy some beers! Thanks for the ID.

  • @jonathanvogt2
    @jonathanvogt22 жыл бұрын

    Really really cool!

  • @AlexxanderOnYoutube
    @AlexxanderOnYoutube2 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful work

  • @BlenderStudy
    @BlenderStudy2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the update, Insider..!! I thought they were using printed papers in Hollywood movies. @.@ Wow.

  • @kamrankazemi
    @kamrankazemi2 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting...... 👍👍👍👍

  • @DuranmanX
    @DuranmanX2 жыл бұрын

    6:36 Grace will last, beauty will blast

  • @navdeepdanner0088
    @navdeepdanner00882 жыл бұрын

    Mclovin was savage 😂 in superbad

  • @darkermatter125.35
    @darkermatter125.352 жыл бұрын

    1) amazing 2) love the supernatural references!

  • @arunjames6494
    @arunjames64942 жыл бұрын

    That's crazy awesome

  • @katherinehaidara2967
    @katherinehaidara29672 жыл бұрын

    This sounds so fun!

  • @iliketowatch.
    @iliketowatch.9 ай бұрын

    The work these guys do reminded me of the work that Tony Mendez did for the CIA. He wrote about it in "Argo" (later to be made into a Ben Affleck film).

  • @mackocloud924
    @mackocloud9242 жыл бұрын

    First think I could think of was the many passports in the Bourne tripogy

  • @bloatedsodium7301
    @bloatedsodium73012 жыл бұрын

    I.D, that’s an interesting abbreviation. The I is short for I, and the D is short for Dentification. -Rip Norm

  • @p.j.3524
    @p.j.35242 жыл бұрын

    I Started Laughing ! Just After Looking At The Thumbnail In Notification

  • @sandybrandtmurals
    @sandybrandtmurals Жыл бұрын

    That BOARD WALK EMPIRE shot was filmed inside a yellow building that is in front of the park where anyone can get a fake ID at. Yes, near Hollywood. Its the same building that was used in a Batman movie, Marron5 music video, dog hotel movie, Oh Sheila music video, and many many more.

  • @ernestkj
    @ernestkj2 жыл бұрын

    interesting job! prob good part time job for those guys in need..

  • @themeantuber
    @themeantuber2 жыл бұрын

    I would have loved this job!

  • @danstarknyc
    @danstarknyc2 жыл бұрын

    Just love this. And the fact that you’ve added this skill set / transitioned from being an already remarkable commercial artist to doing this too.

  • @asl2g4u
    @asl2g4u2 жыл бұрын

    amazing the attention to detail for something that will be seen for less than half a second. yet movies and TV shows consistently put up nonsense EKG's and blood pressurs and heart rates whenever there is a hospital scene (even if it's on screen for minutes at a time). Please, hollywood, do better. -doctor

  • @user-dm4ob8bw1m
    @user-dm4ob8bw1m Жыл бұрын

    Amazing,

  • @buckdaman8493
    @buckdaman84932 жыл бұрын

    Seems easier to look for fake id vendors on Reddit 🤔

  • @dunke10
    @dunke10 Жыл бұрын

    Even if the prop ends up not being shown on screen, I think it helps the actors' performance, and it can still be used later in another project

  • @GMANSTUDIO672
    @GMANSTUDIO6722 жыл бұрын

    The whole entire video I was thinking about the mclovin ID

  • @muktarabubakar1049
    @muktarabubakar1049 Жыл бұрын

    I got he's page her on this video, few days back and it was amazing thanks for trust?

  • @Sl20
    @Sl20 Жыл бұрын

    Love it smart and interesting people sure know what they do !!!!!!!🤫

  • @avrinrose5457
    @avrinrose54572 жыл бұрын

    Can You Talk about Kaitou Joker?

  • @signity5540
    @signity55402 жыл бұрын

    It’s nearly 1am why am I watching this still

  • @hodlvault8775
    @hodlvault87752 жыл бұрын

    think il watch superbad again, its been a few days

  • @franco3610
    @franco36102 жыл бұрын

    Oooh this is how beluga got one😄

  • @getmoneyftlom
    @getmoneyftlom Жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @sandybrandtmurals
    @sandybrandtmurals Жыл бұрын

    I got fired for spotting fake ID's & SS cards. As a kid, I saw a lot of fakes made in my neighborhood. I grew up in Skid Row Downtown Los Angeles California. There is a new agency that approves document documentation. When I reported the issues, I was fired from a big wig agency.

  • @Spurztunez
    @Spurztunez Жыл бұрын

    i never knew these whole thing matters, until now 😂

  • @Randomyoutubeuser414
    @Randomyoutubeuser4142 жыл бұрын

    I just saw the movie superbad whom thumbnail in this video and now youtube recommended this

  • @tonynasaofficial
    @tonynasaofficial10 ай бұрын

    It does really suck that it goes under appreciated, sometimes you work so hard especially older documents and its legit only shown like for 3 seconds at most and then they just throw away the prop :c saddens me

  • @Hyder61112
    @Hyder611122 жыл бұрын

    This guy could work on silk road lol

  • @Notnoahyy
    @Notnoahyy2 жыл бұрын

    This feels like a mafia reveal

  • @mayachelsie4072
    @mayachelsie40722 жыл бұрын

    wowza!

  • @Imagettoit
    @Imagettoit Жыл бұрын

    I’d love a job like this

  • @makhimills797
    @makhimills7972 жыл бұрын

    this seem very and legal for me to be watching

  • @jalabi99
    @jalabi992 жыл бұрын

    No mention of the Peter Parker passport used in _Spider-Man: Far From Home_

  • @omerl7691
    @omerl7691 Жыл бұрын

    I might be thinking to hard but did he make the prop IDs for the new Elvis Presley movie. I don’t know but the timeline matches up

  • @catface7133
    @catface71332 жыл бұрын

    A handy guy to have around if you're into forgery, must have a perfect police record to work in a job like that..

  • @xonx209

    @xonx209

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually I'm thinking this is a perfect job for ex-forgers who want to make an honest living

  • @Happy-xi9hl
    @Happy-xi9hl2 жыл бұрын

    Mean while an 8yr old me trying to print fake money by using an inkjet printer.

  • @Whiteboytripping
    @Whiteboytripping2 жыл бұрын

    They finally stopped carding me now I feel old

  • @pradap2298
    @pradap22982 жыл бұрын

    generously no one talks about joker id

  • @God-Emperor_Elizabeth_the_2nd
    @God-Emperor_Elizabeth_the_2nd2 жыл бұрын

    I SAW POSTAL IN THOSE FOLDERS

  • @bororobo3805
    @bororobo38052 жыл бұрын

    He went above and be-fuckibg-yond. With his craft. Wow.

  • @hanz7801
    @hanz78012 жыл бұрын

    Thumbnail: Isn't Tony B from Sopranos

  • @giodc8599
    @giodc85992 жыл бұрын

    I am disappointed "McLovin" was not featured!

  • @mannesthemenace3428
    @mannesthemenace34282 жыл бұрын

    Looks like I need one to buy beer as a minor. Ha HA joking don't do that.

  • @deliverancetwo
    @deliverancetwo2 жыл бұрын

    Props guys my hat 🎩 off too you all… simply amazing

  • @Kristian179
    @Kristian179 Жыл бұрын

    the funny thing is you can buy these as used props, just don't pass it off as genuine

  • @Raidfan09
    @Raidfan092 жыл бұрын

    4:33 ho hey ben

  • @cerealarmageddon6674
    @cerealarmageddon66742 жыл бұрын

    “Its card to find a specific ID” meanwhile, I have one of those almost exactly :p mom let me take it bc its old

  • @ogone1465
    @ogone14652 жыл бұрын

    Where do people get the fake if from

  • @jennglow4647
    @jennglow46472 жыл бұрын

    😲

  • @andreibaciu7518
    @andreibaciu75182 жыл бұрын

    imagine putting heart and soul into recreating a 100 year old document and they barely use it for a couple of frames

  • @WORKWITHHIMONIGJERFREYIDMAN
    @WORKWITHHIMONIGJERFREYIDMAN Жыл бұрын

    Jeffrey made it for my entire family and videos of documents were sent to us before payment

  • @jomarcentermjm
    @jomarcentermjm2 жыл бұрын

    4:38 wait nobody digitized historic stuff?

  • @darcipeeps
    @darcipeeps2 жыл бұрын

    I’d like to do this job

  • @romanizaboss6641
    @romanizaboss66412 жыл бұрын

    Bandman Kevo real job!

  • @ZrhioZ
    @ZrhioZ2 жыл бұрын

    I work with photoshop as a freelancer. This would be my dream job.

  • @etienne1827
    @etienne18272 жыл бұрын

    Me: Still trying to get Alcohol with my library Card.

  • @alakani

    @alakani

    2 жыл бұрын

    The library card is most likely polyethylene, so you can use a vanadium catalyst to convert it to formic acid. Then reduce to chloromethane using HCI, add sodium to get ethane, add sunlight and chlorine to get chloroethane, and turn it into ethanol using hydroxide

  • @jakkuwolfinsomnia8058
    @jakkuwolfinsomnia80584 ай бұрын

    I assumed they borrowed them wow

  • @SoCalFreelance
    @SoCalFreelance2 жыл бұрын

    These props will be sold for high dollar value to prop collectors so not all is lost.

  • @BrownsSelfStorage
    @BrownsSelfStorage6 ай бұрын

    Oh wow he is good

  • @ajwashere8996
    @ajwashere89962 жыл бұрын

    Alianovna not alianova... ovna is the patronymic that’s appalling!

  • @cheekeong9241
    @cheekeong92412 жыл бұрын

    All in the days work of an Awesome Graphic Designer 😎 👏 🙌 like me and everyone

  • @WilliamWizer
    @WilliamWizer Жыл бұрын

    I apologize for the stupidity of the question but, if it's so hard to find some originals of old ID documents, can't they just make them any way they want? of course it must look like it's authentic but, if nobody can find a real one, you don't need to be accurate, do you? they do an absurdly good job to be as close as the real deal as it can be made and I do not mean to disrespect their efforts but, is it needed to be so detailed for something that can only be seen if you look at the movie frame by frame? it's a "blink and you miss it" but they recreate every single detail.

  • @mitchellquartero
    @mitchellquartero2 жыл бұрын

    As a result of that movie scene Hawaii driver’s license have went a design and security change now it has an island clear window on the license and hologram on the license

  • @guyweizer9176
    @guyweizer9176 Жыл бұрын

    Bro why didn’t they show mclovin from Superbad

  • @rubencruyffoninstagramdrip646
    @rubencruyffoninstagramdrip646 Жыл бұрын

    God bless you mate 👆👆👆♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ it scannable ID thanks

  • @ifardedandshidded5519
    @ifardedandshidded55192 жыл бұрын

    my name mclovin,, you may recognize me from hit movie super bad

  • @Sssteelo
    @Sssteelo8 ай бұрын

    That NM ID in the beginning was so off

  • @kj55
    @kj552 жыл бұрын

    Now I see why movies can cause millions and millions of dollars. This is just one small aspect imagine how many other specialists on the set doing their own thing This guy's just trying to make a piece of paper look good

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