How expensive was it to own a cheap Porsche 911 (996) Turbo? Total Cost of Ownership [TCO]
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I owned a 'cheap' Porsche 911 Turbo for almost 3 years. How much did it cost to own?
If you want to skip all my blabbering about why and how I bought the car, go directly to 09:36 for (my blabbering about) the costs.
All the costs are in CHF. 1 CHF ~ 1 USD
Spoiler: It was 51 ct / km, which is pretty decent for a sports car of the caliber of a Porsche 911 Turbo. I was pretty lucky in that I did not have many issues with the car.
I was quite amazed when I realized that the Porsche 996 Turbo had fallen within my budget.
Here’s how much it cost me to own my Porsche 996 Turbo for 3 years:
I bought a 2001 Porsche 911 Turbo with 151’000km in November 2014 for CHF 30'000.-
NoS original 996 Turbo winter rims, a new set of Pirelli W240 snow tires and some center caps (off of ebay) for a total of CHF 2043.-
Bridgestone Potenza S-02A CHF 1067.- fitted.
Service CHF 3’207.-
Infotainment upgrade (Pioneer AVIC-F77DAB) CHF 1’549.- installed.
Reservoir for the hydraulics CHF 444.-
New Battery 199.-
Wheel change CHF 125.-
Wheel change CHF 125.-
Number plate LED CHF 23.-
Trunk/Hood-LED CHF 10.-
Service CHF 2’349.-
Fuel CHF 6’908.- (4'406l with an average of 11.92l/100km at 1 Franc 57 per liter, 36'977 km)
Insurance was 4’027 Francs
Taxes were 150 Francs.
But no calculation of total cost of ownership would be complete without taking into account the resale of the car:
The car sold for CHF 33’000.-
That leaves us with a total cost of ownership of CHF 19’227.-
That is CHF 6’786 per year and 51 cents per Kilometer.
Not bad, right? 51ct/km for a Porsche 911 Turbo! I reckon this might be the cheapest car I've ever owned.
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Middle-class 30-year-old drives around in 911 Turbo or VW Phaeton W12, or SL55 AMG... That is the best ad for living in Switzerland I've ever heard.
@DerpEye
4 жыл бұрын
'middle class'
@lukasb9697
4 жыл бұрын
if you somehow register the car in eastern of europe, and also let it repair there you can maybe afford it too.
@iFireender
3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpEye I mean, it is middle class. An university graduate easily earns 80k annually, a 30 year old should be at around 90-100k. At that point, if you like your cars, you can easily afford a car like this if you take care of it.
@FairladyS130
3 жыл бұрын
The biggest factor? He's single.
@Tential1
3 жыл бұрын
@@DerpEye the most overused and meaningless word, how many times have you heard someone say that they are upper or lower class versus middle class.....
Very interesting video. I've had mine for about 3.5 years and I'm averaging $5-6k/year USD to own it so far. Had to deal with lots of deferred maintenance for a nearly 20 year old car - new clutch/slave, 2 batteries, welded the coolant lines, starter, water pump, tires, washer fluid tank, fuel tank sending unit and several other small things. They're fairly reliable cars once you've sorted them, but definitely have a slush fund at the ready for when stuff goes wrong! They also like to be driven.
@swisscarguy
4 жыл бұрын
Good practice with any car to not let it sit for too long.
Used 996 turbos here in the US are hard to come by and expensive. That's because they are quite good cars and owners tend to hold on to them.
@KrustyKlown
Жыл бұрын
now they cost 2X .. ain't getting cheaper, lol
the 996 is my every day ride and I love it. Zero problems. Absolute pleasure to drive and own.
@RSTI191
4 жыл бұрын
Had one for 13 years. Same here. I'm looking into a 997
@yankiesilverstone
4 жыл бұрын
Did you have your IMS bearing replaced? Ive had two mechanics tell me independently not to bother replacing it and it was more of a 'scare'. Just bought my first 996, 2002 Cabriollet - 40K miles, one owner. Still nervous about not replacing the bearing in spite of my mechanics reccomendation.
@RSTI191
4 жыл бұрын
Kinda like a the Sword of Damocles hanging over your head. It can go or it won't.. It's not an issue with Twin Turbos. I just drove the hell out of my Turbo, loved every second. Enjoy your ride..
@bfairfax8772
3 жыл бұрын
@@yankiesilverstone The turbo doesn't have the IMS bearing issue it's a completely different design for the engine .
As an arcade game collector, I sometimes find lose coins in the machine, but I didn't know that Porches were coin operated.
Thoroughly enjoy your pod casts. Honest, great delivery accurate facts that can be applied in real life. Thank you for your time and effort regarding the production of the cast. Keep up the great work.
one of the best reviews ive watched so far and I didn't skip a single second, I actually rewinded some of the information you presented and even got out my money converter out just to follow through and get an idea for myself. thank you soo much ive added this to my favourites for further review
Dude I love you man! You had me cracking up out loud a few times, fun and informative video! Great find.
Very informative video presented with the precision of an engineer. I'm glad I didn't skip to 9:36.
Very comprehensive review and pragmatic data on true ownership. Too many people buy these cars cheap and either do cheap repairs or cannot afford to repair them.
Excellent video. I have watched quite a few about buying and owning "cheap" 911 models, but this one was the best; very informative, and gave a good feel for what the experience might be like. Well done Sir.
Halfway through the video so far - thumbs up and thank you for the great video 👍🏽
I’m so glad I stumbled upon this video, it really helps. Can’t wait to buy a 996TT in the future🙏🏻 Thank you!
This is a really helpful video man, thank you. Frankly, those running costs are rather a lot more than I'd previously thought.
Great, thorough analysis, Delivered w a great sense of humor. 😊
Dreaming of a 911 turbo. Thank you for this informative video.
awesome video man, well done. older vehicles like this can sometimes make financial sense but the risk of breakdown at inopportune times makes it something i unfortunately cant stomach. add to that the massive risk of extremely costly repairs; the prior owner took a massive beating on repairs, you got mildly lucky! 👍
Thumbs up for the very informative, detailed and honest experience about owing such a great car 👍🏻
Great video, exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
911 turbos were pretty solid. No IMS bearing to fail! Most of your expenses were preventative or upgrades. Good for you!
Thanks. A great ,and very honest, breakdown of the costs of ownership .
Great video again, a pleasure to watch. More please!
Tks for vid. The Porsche 996 Turbo the best of the old and new. Awesome Le mans racing style with the famous Rock solid Mezger engine a pure and beautiful, everyday all weather urban icon.
I like this guy... nice swiss guy... intelligent... funny and actually a well intentioned informative video... thanks man !!
This a super useful review! I'm in university and I wanted a car to replace or add my 1994 M5 (since it's quite expensive to maintain, mostly because of the inexistent support of BMW M in my country that times) and I was so interested in a 911 Turbo and it seems it's a great option, even better than the M5 I own, good gas mileage, reliable and beautiful. This review opened my eyes and now I want to sell my M5 and get myself a 911 Turbo, it's my dream car and it's surprisingly inexpensive to maintain, thank you so much.
Great video! Definitely helped with thoughts on purchase, plus the humour was well appreciated!
Subscribed. Loving the detailed and informative review.
this was informative and enjoyable! :) thank you so much
Excellent car review! Very detailed and to the point.
good vid mate, very informative and detailed 😎
Thanks for the video, you answered all my questions.
Thanks for sharing this great video!
Thanks for your interesting story. Loved it!
Good job on the video very informative. I enjoyed it
A little late to this one but thanks for the video, very informative and enjoyed your deadpan delivery.
Sehr informatives und unterhaltsames Video und extrem sympathisch rübergebracht. Greetings from Bavaria and keep on!
Honest and hilarious commentary. Owned a 996 Carrera for a few years, never aTurbo. You’ve got me thinking!
@swisscarguy
4 жыл бұрын
Turbos are much more powerful but they have completely different power curve. If you like some good old Turbo-lag and the ensuing torque-kick, you really should give the Turbo a try. However, I feel that the price difference between Carreras and Turbos has gotten out of hand. A 996 Turbo now costs at least twice as much as a Carrera. Is it twice the car? No.
Just bumped into your channel. You're hilarious and so subconsciously subscribed 😂😎 keep up the videos !
Great video! Thank you so much for doing this! Great english as well.
Ora attenderò ansiosamente il video sulla Phateon! Complimenti per il bel video!
Thank you for the nice and informative review of this wonderful car.
Great video Sir.! thanks for all the insights
Thank you for this pedantic analysis. Truly a swiss car guy.
Excellent owners account of ownership, and from hilarious and valuable perspectives that I never thought of.
I am not sure why I was roaring laughing at some of your remarks. You do a fantastic job on those videos sir. Killer sense of humour!!!
Awesome detailed review. Thank you..
Excellent, thoroughly enjoyed that, thank you
The 996 Turbo is a great value for money car, but not all Porsche turbo's are. A great video and a honest review of a good car. Thanks
excellent video thanks for the informative information
Great video, I think I’m watching them in reverse order. Very entertaining. Already subscribed.
Very informative, thanks for sharing
1st, I think it’s awesome that you did this entire video in English and nailed it! I wish I was that fluent in another language. 2nd, you had an awesome ownership experience in a pretty awesome car. I think the 996 Turbo is an amazing value. Sure it’s the “ugly 911” up the bang for buck factor cannot be denied. Great video!
Informative. Thank you.
I love your videos and your presenting skills!! keep on going brother!! subscriber gained!
@swisscarguy
4 жыл бұрын
You're too kind! Thanks.
I cannot believe you owned and reviewed both cars I really love, respect, and plan to buy!
@swisscarguy
3 жыл бұрын
For me it was owning the cars that were unattainable when I was 18. Good luck on your journey. If you need infos or an opinion about a specific car when it's time, hit me up.
A very thorough dive into the economics of Porsche ownership with a distinct Swiss flavour. I really envy the Swiss for their exchangeable number plate system. Germany's previous minister of transport tried to model something similar but failed miserably - though you would have to screw and unscrew the plates between the cars, there was no saving in the process so there were few takers only. Congratulations for driving such a car with a resale gain over the time! Much as though I like these cars, I think a 911 would be wasted on my city driving with 90% of the potential unused all the time - or me losing my licence very, very quickly...
Very good and very useful review!
Really enjoyed that. Keep up the good work. Mick Northern Ireland 👍🍻
Great video...thanks for all the information! ....and great sense of understated humor lol
Cool Video mate, I like it much greetings from germany
Nice video - also good to mention these cars are very easy to work on. For example, I replaced coils and spark plugs myself, and cost of parts was only $250. I have owned mine for a year now and maintenance has been low so far. With these cars it's easy to get carried away with modifications, like suspension, exhaust, tune. If you can resist that urge, it's actually a very affordable "super car" to own and still holds its own 17 years later. Can't see myself ever selling mine. Like you said, even saying $5-6 k a year in costs - I've seen cars depreciate twice as much as that. Knowing I will sell this car for what I paid for it makes a huge difference.
@swisscarguy
4 жыл бұрын
That's the way to do it! I am too lazy/incompetent to do the work myself, so I spend more money at the garage. If you can do it yourself, a 996 Turbo can be really quite a cheap super car. I also understand the urge to 'upgrade' the car - I might have the only Nissan GT-R on the planet that is completely stock as I just see no point in spending loads of money making the car even faster (and possibly less reliable).
I have been living in the Suisse Romande side. Great video. I would recommend you get a Goluk camera, front and rear. I have had these for years now and they work in parking mode with a battery saver. So it is on all the time recording any movement front and back. I had LaPoste hit and run in their elecrique moto.
19/20 car channels are garbage. This is not one of those channels. Real dude. Real talk. Keep up the 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 content.
Really good, down to earth video. I have little chance of owning a Porshe in this life (or the next), but I enjoyed it. Thanks
@pashakrai4034
4 жыл бұрын
1881Gordon nothing is impossible man. Keep working toward your goal. I was broke myself..then three years later I was able to afford 2 of my current cars. ‘14 Lexus and ‘18 Lincoln. Keep punching 👊🏼
Truly great review 👍👍👍 It gives futur owners an amazing overall overview. THANKS A LOT!!!
Is this the famous Swiss precision? Anyway excellent video.
Great information, thank you.
Just the video I was looking for!
@mrjackbaran
3 жыл бұрын
Is this the best drivers car you have driven?
Wow, that's still a lot of money for a middle class guy like me. And you've been lucky, no costly repairs. Thanks for the great info.
Nice video. Very Swiss, very thorough. Sounds like you bought well. I reckon that you should have kept it, probably worth at least 40k today!
Scary costs! Will leave buying one where it belongs.....in my dreams! Very informative video! Thank you
@geoffreycheeping3902
4 жыл бұрын
There were only 2 service appointments and a battery change, you don't need to do summer winter tires or infotainment, etc, as far as general costs it's quite cheap to run
Besten Dank für Ihre Hilfe und Mühe! Alles gute!
Love your work...cheers
Thank you for adding this great documentation to the body of knowledge for the community. Very helpful.
Great detailed post.
Good video. Car guy + nerd is a great combo.
Thanks, excellent video!
I love this video. Thanks for sharing. I have been thinking of buying a porsche for years. I'm torn between a 996 and 997.2
@swisscarguy
3 жыл бұрын
What speaks against a 997.1 in your opinion?
Hi Friend, I am a 996tt S owner and my experience has also been equally good. I just want to say how much I enjoy your facility with English and particularly your mastery of idiomatic phrases. I wish my German were nearly as good. As for your channel raison d’être , well done! You are an interesting fellow with a point of view that is coincident with my own. All the best and carry on !
@swisscarguy
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, for the encouragement, that's very kind of you.
Great video. Cheers!
Great informative clip. 👌 In Australia they currently sell for $AUD100-200k and your mechanical repairs & parts prices, would make your eyes water. Yes I too want to hear about the GTR ASAP but I have to rush now, as I am going to pull my seats and carpet out of my SL R230 and hopefully find...💰💰💰
Great video. Thank you. Looking forward to hearing about your VW Phaeton.
@NorceCodine
4 жыл бұрын
Me too. The Phaeton was sold only for a very short time in America. Apparently Volkswagen forgot to mention to the buyers that they cannot get the car serviced in America.
thanks for sharing this, very helpful,,,
Great video but a few comments: 75km/h average over the age of a 911 can also be an indication that the car has been tracked. So rule is to look for 50-60km/h average. Also replacing the car stereo and the whole winter wheel story isn’t properly speaking a maintenance or service cost, more of a choice. Then insurance and fuel cost are also variable country to country. So what you are really saying is that in 3 years and 60,000km the car service and maintenance - a car you bought at near 150,000km- cost less than $5,000 in total service. For a near super car that’s quite amazing!
Thx for a good video! 😊👍🏻
I’ve had my 996tt for 5 years and I love it. It’s not leaving my garage.
@swisscarguy
4 жыл бұрын
It's a great car!
@notroll1279
4 жыл бұрын
Keeping the car inside the garage all the time also keeps maintenance and fuel costs to a Minimum 😀
20:03 oh I know that face & feeling lol, so funny and authentic
Great video! Agree for someone like myself, 996 probably the only 911 I can afford
subscribed, excelent reviews
Thanks for all the info about your ownership. At the end of your vid you stated: "maybe you were just lucky". Not lucky, smart. Personally, you did exactly what people should do when buying a used car ..... any used car. Currently, my used car preference are Mercedes pre 2015. Again thanks.
Great video! Kinda depressing as I can clearly see i'm not quite able to afford to run it for very long at the moment lol,. Currently driving an E92 M3 and plan on picking up a 996 Turbo next!
Great video - I own a 2001 996 Turbo!
Thanks for the informative review. The 996 TT is a gift that keeps on giving. Prices in the US are up more than 20% for 2020-2021. But my question is ... how did you manage to get 11.9l/100km? That's an exceptionally good value! You seem to drive "spirited" and that usually means 15l/100km with these cars. Well done, Sir!
@swisscarguy
2 жыл бұрын
I drive spirited when pushing but in normal driving I tend to drove at low revs. I accelerate quickly and immediately shift into a high gear. Also, lots of motorway driving helps keeping consumption down. That said, 996 Turbos are just phenomenaly fuel efficient in my opinion. I mean, beside a 1.2l Lancia Y the 996 has been the most fuel efficient cae I have ever owned.
Why do I watch this? To get knowledge of the cost of ownership of a 996 Turbo. Why do I enjoy watching this? Becasue Swiss Car Guy could read a phone catalog and it would still be super interesting.
Great review. Your precise Swinglish is fantastic and makes the video interesting - good job. I nearly bought an Alfa 4C and after some careful consideration cancelled the order. Please buy and sell more cars like Tyler Hoover from Hoovies Garage. You'd be his entertaining Swiss counterpart.
Hi there, I really enjoyed watching this funny, in part because you seem to be a real car guy like me. In the lates 80's I bought an '87 model year Carrera 3.2 wide body 911. It was a wonderful car and I sold it for £4000 more than I bought it. I sold it to buy a house. I look forward to seeing more of your vids.
@swisscarguy
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It seems Porsches bought at the right price tend to keep their value.
Great job sir , thanks from the U.S.
Great review, I’ve never sold a Porsche for less than I paid. I bought my ‘03 Turbo for $32k, with only a broken spoiler mechanism. This led to inventing a new wing lift system and business. :o)
@swisscarguy
2 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks David! I had your d eRam Kit on the radar in case my spoiler ever broke.
I have done much for more for less to my 2002 turbo, but labor costs are way less than in Switzerland. Great cars!
Well done !