Easy mode is to have kids be able to enjoy games with their parents. You know what is great about easy mode? It’s optional

@jayandjlps8022

8 ай бұрын

Whatever you say, I beat Donkey Kong Country Returns on my 3DS as a kid without any help. If you suck you suck. Keep trying until you get it right! Easy mode is for modern day wimps 😂

@bluetoadgoomba

8 ай бұрын

​@@jayandjlps8022fr

@Rypandavgm

8 ай бұрын

your opinion is not wrong but it is invalid because of how rude your being.@@jayandjlps8022

@UltraZelda64

8 ай бұрын

Easy mode is fine when it is just that, an optional mode that you start the game in. It starts to become a problem when certain characters are designated easy mode, effectively *reducing* the number of playable characters for players who just want to play the game normally. It sort of makes sense with Nabbit, since being on Bowser's side none of the Mario Bros.' enemies are enemies of Nabbit, but it's pretty ridiculous to make Yoshi the same way. Plus, ironically, it also limits character choice for those players who actually *want* to play the game on easy, as their *only* two choices are Yoshi and Nabbit. So in the end, it's a lose-lose situation; no one wins here, no matter what difficulty level they want to play on. The solution? A separate easy mode *option* before starting the game, which will modify or eliminate the damage the player's character takes, no matter which character that player uses.

@blackwiiremote

8 ай бұрын

@@jayandjlps8022people buy games to have fun, if it’s too hard then they can turn on easy mode

I have a friend who just got into playing games. She plays games for fun, not for the challenge. Different people play games for different reasons, and that's OK. I'm glad she was able to play through the entirety of whatever Super Mario she was playing, instead of being stuck playing the first two worlds (like I had to when I was younger).

@therealjaystone2344

8 ай бұрын

Thank god it’s not an JRPG game because they are NOT for fun to play

@dr.metroid6119

8 ай бұрын

@@therealjaystone2344 I tried playing xenoblade Chronicles 2...... stopped playing it in the middle because it was WAY TOO LONG and required too much grinding.......

@therealjaystone2344

8 ай бұрын

@@dr.metroid6119 it requires less grinding to play but 3 made it better

One aspect that no one is talking about is how easy mode functions in super Mario bros Wonder, as it is the best version of the mode yet. Instead of killing anything you touch or running straight past enemies like Nabbit, you are bumped back upon contact. This is a huge change, because now you can’t just run straight through enemies like Nabbit used to.

@bshays21

8 ай бұрын

Yes agreed 💯. It'll teach presumably kids how to play video games and prepare for the day they're not playing just "baby" games.

@StevenVillman

8 ай бұрын

@@bshays21 _Super Mario Bros. Wonder, New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe,_ etc. are *_NOT_* "baby" video games!!! You're just ageist there! 😑😑😑

@StevenVillman

7 ай бұрын

*@mattdickson627* You also can't get to certain secret exits in certain stages/levels as a Yoshi (or as Nabbit) in due to the fact that you can't get power-ups - some of which are required in order to *_get_* to those secret exits - which means there that you cannot unlock certain secret stages/levels. Therefore, you cannot fully experience _Super Mario Bros. Wonder_ when you're playing as a Yoshi (or as Nabbit)!

@user-mq8mo9zi4q

7 ай бұрын

Actually, that is only for the Yoshi's. Nabbit still runs right through them.

@mattdickson627

7 ай бұрын

@@user-mq8mo9zi4q ah, you are correct.

I think they don’t ruin them… unless it is by dying too much it gives you the invincible leaf. If you choose easy mode, you CHOSE easy mode. And Yoshi easy mode kind of makes sense. In yoshi’s island, if you got hit, baby Mario would be crying in a bubble, but you can get knocked down, but never killed if you got hit trying to save him. But I see why people wanted Yoshi to be a normal character. But I would have preferred him to be a power up like in SMW or NSMBU/WII.

@kntranced719

8 ай бұрын

The only reason Yoshi himself can't take damage in Island is to not give you two separate things to worry about. How would you like it if you had to be on top of Yoshi's health in addition to keeping baby mario safe? It would be more stressful, especially if you get hit when there's a lot of enemies on screen and you have to carefully make your way to the bubble while trying not to get hit and die. That's why in games like Yoshi's Story or Yoshi's wooly world, where no such mechanic exists, it's fine to let Yoshi take damage there.

@cringycontent

8 ай бұрын

@@kntranced719 I know, but it puts it into a little more context. And maybe what nintendo was thinking when putting yoshi in mario wonder

@JellifiShugo

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@kntranced719even then, he doesn’t take damage In The traditional 2D Mario game sense

@kntranced719

8 ай бұрын

@@JellifiShugo When Yoshi was in Super Mario Run, he had a small form whenever he took damage. Why couldn't they do the same here?

@ihaetschool3361

8 ай бұрын

at least you won't be able to access world 9 if you don't collect the star coins with normal mario

My daughter is 3 years old. She learned how to play using nabbit. Yoshi happens to be her favorite character btw. I do agree somewhat but my take is every character should have an option to be played in easy mode that way you could choose to play with yoshi on normal. This is coming from someone who rolled credits in sekiro but also loves easy games

@Marko-ij4vy

8 ай бұрын

Yeah my issue isnt the easy mode itself but the fact that its locked behind specific characters. Lets be real even old school mario players might have kids themselves (like you do) by now so for a kid that is 3-5 years old theres nothing wrong about easy mode because its more accessible. But I dont like that yoshi is an easy mode now because I like playing as yoshi but dont want to be invincible. So basically I will never use yoshi because of that. While for some kid peach might be favourite character but cant play as her in easy mode. And vice versa with yoshi.

@danr8267

8 ай бұрын

​@@Marko-ij4vyoh yeah sucks about tying a character to an easy mode

@trufreedom

5 ай бұрын

Genichiro!

... as someone with young nieces and nephews, it's good to have the option available so they aren't stuck on the first world or whatnot, and lose interest (Happened to me quite a bit growing up). Especially given how big of a franchise Mario is, they have to make SOME attempt at making it accessible to newer players. Even if it does remove most of the "challenge".

@RainLion10

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, but wouldn't it make more sense to make it an option and not lock it to an existing character? I like playing as Yoshi

@StevenVillman

8 ай бұрын

@@RainLion10 *_*I KNOW...*_* right...?! This will be my very first time in playing as a Yoshi character in a mainline Mario video game (not counting the _Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island_ video game on the SNES and its port on the Nintendo Game Boy Advance), but I don't want to play in "Easy mode" all the time (only at first until I get better at the stages/levels in the _Super Mario Bros. Wonder_ video game)!

@AquaticElixir

7 ай бұрын

Maybe, but Yossi was sorta bound to be an easy mode character regardless because of their Moveset.

Dude, calm down. It's not like you're being forced to play in easy mode. If someone plays in easy mode, it's because they CHOSE to play in easy mode. Easy modes make games more accessible to less skilled players. Having more options is never a bad thing.

@Luke-mg7sc

8 ай бұрын

To me, easy mode is only a problem if a character to forced on easy mode, and thats the case with wonder.

@KyleEvra

8 ай бұрын

Dude, we are allowed to talk about how horrible easy modes are.

@PurpMar6492

8 ай бұрын

@@Luke-mg7schow? There are 7 characters that play the same way.

@Luke-mg7sc

8 ай бұрын

@@PurpMar6492 yoshi is locked behind a handicap

@jonieljoestarzawarudo8172

8 ай бұрын

@@KyleEvra What? What do you even mean by that?

An unconsidered aspect of the "easy mode"/Yoshis. I plan to play with my 7 yo son, 6 yo daughter, and sometimes my wife or 3 yo daughter. My son will always be Mario, my older daughter always Peach, and my younger daughter always Daisy. If I'm Yoshi, and they can ride on me and I'm invincible, I can help the struggling players through the level.

@gaaargehazard2501

8 ай бұрын

Precisely, as a more experienced Mario player, I'll personally love using Yoshi as a kind of "support" character (Holding powerups, reviving ghosts, offering players a ride). And if you think about it, that playstyle actually fits Yoshi pretty great as a character.

@murderman8578

8 ай бұрын

May people don't wanna play like that

@naturalLog26

8 ай бұрын

​@@murderman8578then don't

@NatetheNintendofan

8 ай бұрын

When I was seven and eight I even wasn't that bad at Mario I wasn't that bad at Mario I was bad but not that bad I was more of a mean thing I would throw my siblings into the lava pits in New Super Mario Bros Wii I'm going to miss doing stuff like that in the Mario Wonder

@bshays21

8 ай бұрын

​@@murderman8578they don't have to

3:36 and this is where the argument instantly falls apart in my opinion. It assumes that every game WANTS their skill to be tested, and that skill must be tested equally. Some people dont like challenge, they may already have enough stress in their life, and want to unwind.

@zjzr08

8 ай бұрын

I guees that's the point...that we SHOULD make players overcome that challenge (i.e. forced betterment of ourselves) which is going to be always a hot topic to debate as there's no right answer here - I say as long as the games' has an option that keeps difficulty of the previous series in-tact with options for general audience difficulty, an easier one and a harder one, I think it's fine, but it also does mean needing time effort to implement them.

This is pretty lengthy but I just wanna say my take on this topic. I understand your overall statement towards Easy Mode in being that aspects of playing these types of games in the first place are meant to challenge you as a player, and that back in the day not so good players, mostly consisting of kids, had to "get good" to complete it, so therefore people today should follow set example and experience the same thing as back then. I even get your point in that just because it's a kids game, doesn't mean it necessarily has to be very easy, in a similar way how people would say that, just because blank is a kid's TV show or movie doesn't mean they don't deserve better saying (which I agree with that take for certain cases). But I still gotta say, although I get you, I don't agree with your philosophy towards gaming. Like you mentioned in the video, easy mode isn't always implemented the best in certain games which I agree with you on, and having Yoshi who is a fan fav be locked behind easy mode is disappointing to many (I say give the player a choice to toggle between it in my opinion. The more customizable to play a game, the better right? Tho I'm not personally effected). However, the whole concept of a Easy Mode for gaming shouldn't disappear altogether just because you have a certain philosophy or view point to how games should be experienced. There's a reason why you hear the whole "Well it's a kid's game" agreement possibly everytime you bring this topic up. Its not because people don't have a valid agreement, it's because that's kinda all they have to say. Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one. The job of an Easy Mode as you might already know is just to simply allow those who might not be so good at gaming in general, the chance to experience something that they couldn't have otherwise, and enjoy their experience and still be satisfied with their time at the end of it, as to me personally, gaming is more about allowing players to have fun then just challenge them for the sake of it. Challenge is a aspect of fun for many, but not everyone. Just because your "back in my days, things used to be harder sonny" statement might be true; gaming as a whole has changed so much other the decades, like many things in life, that I don't quite understand why you would say that as an agreement against easy mode. And you might have heard this a million times by now, but at the end of the day, it's optinal so I generally don't get why it's such a big problem. Isn't haveing more options in a game overall a good thing? Again don't get me wrong, I get what you mean. I personally like games to be fairly difficult, and I don't want gaming as a whole to be too easy/ babies first time difficulty due to the new audience, as I also find it to be more fun and satisfying to me when I do get challenged (tho I'll always still love kirby games despite that). Hell, not every game needs a easy mode. But I just don't think this mind set to erase the concept of easy mode, making it to where a large portion of players can't enjoy there time anymore with most games that are especially targeted towards them in mind, and then basically shaming those who actually need it isn't the way. There's a recent free update of a game that I had to switch the difficulty to Easy Mode for the first time ever after playing the whole thing in Hard Mode, just to get pass one specific boss rush challenge which was mandatory to beat the game, and I consider my self to be a veteran gamer. At the end if the day, I might hate chocolate chip flavour anything, but I ain't gonna wanna try to advocate for the removal for the flavour because I hate it. I don't mean to be rude to what I've said, I just wanted to try to debate this topic.

@poyo3087

8 ай бұрын

Sorry about any grammar mistakes, in my time in the UK I wrote this at 23:34 PM.

@xh3llodanx

8 ай бұрын

Wow you articulated my thoughts exactly, well said man

@poyo3087

8 ай бұрын

​@@xh3llodanxI'm glad you liked my response. I don't usually comment on KZread videos at all, but I really felt the urge to do so here.

I think more of the problem with the Yoshis being easy modes in Wonder is because they're the only unique characters in the game. They have their flutter jump and ability to eat enemies, while everyone else plays the same. This could have been fixed if the invincibility was a togglable option or give everyone unique abilities like previous Mario games.

At least Yoshi in SMBW isn't nabbit since Yoshi will at least get pushed back by enemies. So it makes it easier to fall into pits if you're really bad but i understand your perspective.

@mattdickson627

8 ай бұрын

Ah yes that is exactly my point, I’m glad someone mentioned that

@corrin-1976

8 ай бұрын

That’s true but if you think about it yoshi is easier in some cases, nabbit in others, nabbit is just easier when you want to run through the level or boss and not caring, yoshi is much easier in precise platforming due to the flutter jump that nabbit doesn’t have, also he can insta kill enemies without jumping on them by just eating em

@guyfierimtwi

8 ай бұрын

@@corrin-1976 Well at least Yoshi gets to play the game & interact with the world around him. Also, he can't get power ups so how else is he supposed to take damage, turn into baby yoshi?

@corrin-1976

8 ай бұрын

@@guyfierimtwi am not saying he’s supposed to take damage since he can’t get power ups, but your thing of saying he gets pushed back… let’s be honest in a lot of Mario or yoshi platforms it’s unrealistic to find an enemy just on an edge who can push you in the void, maybe I’m wrong and we’ll see more than we think, but still the push back doesn’t actually seem a real issue to me

@guyfierimtwi

8 ай бұрын

@@corrin-1976 It's possible, not saying it's the norm

Honestly I usually agree with you on most things. But imma be real with you chief, we ain’t looking eye to eye on this. Maybe don’t make Yoshi an easy mode character, but I don’t see issue in Nabbit being easier or having the white tanooki be an option.

@Demeech

8 ай бұрын

You might want to check out the video once it premieres.

@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi

8 ай бұрын

@@Demeech I will.

@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi

8 ай бұрын

@@Demeechokay you make some strong points, yeah as I said Yoshi being a easy mode sucks, and hard modes in Nintendo games would actually be interesting.

@Demeech

8 ай бұрын

​@@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigiWould you say you agree after watching?

@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi

8 ай бұрын

@@Demeecha bit more. I also take people with special needs into account when it comes to accessibility features, not just young kids.

The best kind of easy mode is one that can effect a single player without forcing other players to use it if they don’t want it. But forcing yoshi to be a easy mode instead of just making it an option that each individual player can toggle on an off is stupid I have no problem as long as you actually have to play the game

I do agree with one take I've seen, which is to call the character implementations as "little sibling mode". I say this as a big brother myself, if your little kid sibling sees you playing a game and enjoying it, they're gonna want in, and they'll have no concept of "too young for that game". Now, you can be like "here, you're the purple guy" and they'll be able to play along with big sibling without having a frustrating experience at such a young age, solely because of said young age. This doesn't even touch on the possibility of developmental, mental, and physical disabilities which may impede a player's ability to simply "get good".

@gowildler

7 ай бұрын

I am autist and this simply locks me out from “getting good” at NES Mario games like Super Mario Bros. 3 and Champion’s Road & Co. in SM3DL and SM3DW. (In Super Mario Odyssey, I used Assist Mode ONLY for the Dark Side and Darker Side challenges. And even then, there are some annoying moons preventing me from 100%, such as the volleyball 100-streak one in Seaside Kingdom and that music note challenge in Wooded Kingdom, where you fall into the Deep Forest every time you roll off the wall.)

It’s all for accessibility at the end of the day plus who in their right mind is playing games in easy easier difficulty

Tbh i think a better compromise would be letting you toggle easy mode on any character so kids who need it could play as whoever they want and the yoshis wouldn't be locked out for people who want a challenge

@kathycoleman4648

8 ай бұрын

Yes, agreed. My first choice was playing as Daisy, but I'm legally blind with cerebral palsy and arthritis. I was getting knocked around and struggling within the first three lvels. Switching to Blue Yoshi allowed me to relax and enjoy the experience. But if they let things fall off of Daisy and gave her the jump Yoshi had, while letting Yoshi keep his iconic tongue, and even the rideable aspect, while being able to be normal or easy, that would be a better all around win.

I really don't think having an easy mode is a problem so long as it doesn't impact the core game. There's a lot of people who don't play games often or just wanna relax when they play games and switch their brains off so an easy mode is useful to them, at the end of the day what you find fun is subjective.

I think allowing options for people to cater the game experience to what they want is perfectly fine. Speed runners and streamers do "no power up" or "no damage" runs all the time to make the game even more difficult. To me it's a good thing to allow people to play the way they want

Easy mode is also an accessibility feature, as I know anecdotally that friends and family members with disabilities rely on easy mode to be able to participate, and they love it. I also personally don’t mind easy mode when just looking to cruise through a game and not have to worry about redoing levels if I make stupid mistakes here and there. Idk people need to relax with the easy mode hate (so long as it is completely optional, if its at all forced on you then I agree that is bad)

Playing the characters as easy mode isn't gonna ruin the game. We had Funky Kong in Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze that's also an easy mode in the game and nobody complaint about it because he's optional. So to say playing as the Yoshi's & Nabbit in Super Mario Bros. Wonder will ruined the game because there easy isn't an guarantee fail to the game cause they are optional.

@Doktario_Mystario

8 ай бұрын

i agree but there is a nuance differents, first up yes there was critisism when they announced Funky mode, secondly Tropical Freeze already existed on the Wii U so we had a reference point to the "normal" difficulty

@bulb9970

8 ай бұрын

The difference is that Funky Kong had meme factor

@algotkristoffersson15

8 ай бұрын

@@Doktario_Mystario we will for wobder as well, just don't play as yoshi or nabbit if you don't want easy mode

With yoshi, I don’t actually mind that since yoshi has the yoshi powers, if he was like normal mode he might not have his powers like eating enemies

You want to know the great thing about these accessibility options? THEY’RE. OPTIONAL. If you don’t want to use them then don’t use them. I also think tying to easy modes to specific characters is genius because it allows the easy and normal modes to exist in the same sessions between players. Also not allowing those character to use power ups is pretty smart, as they’re one of the best parts of these games it gives players incentive to at least try to use the harder characters but without making them feel like crap for playing the easy ones. Man your takes have been really bad lately.

@RainLion10

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, but the thing is the easy mode is put on a beloved Mario character, and some people just wanna play Yoshi normally like everyone else.

@wav9686

8 ай бұрын

Not for four players in New Super Luigi U Nabbit wasn't. One person had to play as him no matter what.

Smart steering actually has some strategic value in competitive play.

@PixelShiftss

8 ай бұрын

Yep, especially 200cc Neo Bowser City if you want to use a golden mushroom on the S turn lol

@Victini862

8 ай бұрын

@@PixelShiftss some tracks on 200 smart steering is my lifeline. Especially lap 3 Singapore speedway

I mean, even if Yoshi wasn’t affected by enemies, he’d still be pretty easy to play as

Very hard disagree on this one.

ok i do agree that the easy modes aren't implemented well sometimes but in the case of Super Mario Bros Wonder there are more than 4 characters for multiplayer and don't get me wrong Yoshi is a great character but you have to be unhealthly obsessed if Yoshi just being an easy mode character is that much of a problem to you

@TheYoshiFanatic

8 ай бұрын

If the shoe fits, guess I'll wear it. Haha. I'm definitely in the camp that was disappointed with Yoshi being an easy mode character. It won't ruin the game for me, but I won't lie, it definitely puts a damper on things. Especially since this is Yoshi's big debut as a playable character in a mainline Super Mario Bros game (excluding Mario Run).

@angelgonzalez4871

8 ай бұрын

@@TheYoshiFanatic honestly i found a work around to yoshi for Mario wonder. What I’m gonna do is when I play as him If I get hit a certain amount of hits I’ll restart the level. That way it will be more challenging playing as him

@TheYoshiFanatic

8 ай бұрын

@@angelgonzalez4871 Not a bad idea. I may do a playthrough as Yoshi after I've beaten the main game with Mario, but we'll see.

@angelgonzalez4871

8 ай бұрын

@@TheYoshiFanatic I’m gonna do that aswell

@radiokunio3738

8 ай бұрын

Considering the badge system, I feel like "easy mode" should have just been a badge. If I want to play Mario on easy I just give him the "easy mode" badge and if I want to play Yoshi or Nabbit normally I can just use a different badge. There's already a badge that will save you from falling, I don't see why easy mode needs to be assigned to characters.

An easy mode has never ruined a game. Easy mode is actually very good for teaching the controls

I definitely think there is an important distinct that needs to be made between "Game Journalist modes" (Nabbit, Super Guide etc.) And the "overpoweded yet fun" kind of chatacters. Examples of this latter category such as Tropical Freeze funky kong, Sonic Advance 2 Cream or Rondo of Blood's Maria have two key differences. 1. While overpowered they aren't a free win button 2. They engage with the game in unique ways This allows these characters to act as a fun choice for a second playthrough for veterans. I very much believe wonder yoshi will be have this quality as his no powerups, eating, riding and flutter jump means he will play far differently depsite being overpowered. I'd rarther have yoshi like this than he just be a reskin of Mario and co or a level specific gimmick.

Imagining an amateur bowler making this video saying bumpers ruin bowling makes it much funnier.

Honestly, the problem isn't easy modes themselves, it's how they are implemented and sometimes forced into your gameplay. I also agree with what Super Mario 3D World does by making you grab collectibles within levels without the cheesy golden leaf. Post-game content is meant for experienced players, so there shouldn't be an easy way to get around that

Ultimately I don't see any issues with implementing easy modes for games like this especially since they're totally optional, it's for accessibility not every person who enjoys video games are great at playing them.

@Inky2u

8 ай бұрын

💯

@RainLion10

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, but I want to play as Yoshi with no easy mode involved

"The purpose of a video game is not only to have fun, but to test your skill." Oh yeah, animal crossing sure does test my skill. You play games to have fun and fun is subjective. Some people like competitive, some people like cozy. P.S. You got what you wanted in making me engage with your video to gain traction because of just misinformation instead of actual introspective opinions, nice one man.

Why is it so important to you that everybody plays the game the way YOU would play it? As long as it doesn't affect you, it shouldn't matter to you.

I was genuinely stuck on a level in Mario Galaxy 2, I died over and over and over because it was too difficult for me. The space Rosalina not only showed me how to beat the level, but let me progress even if I sucked. Who did I hurt? Nobody. It didn’t “ruin” the experience. Celeste has an easy mode, and says it’s ok. Your gamer pride isn’t an excuse to ban easy modes

@bulb9970

8 ай бұрын

Celeste is a much harder game than anything Nintendo has released in like 20 years. If you’re really stuck in a Mario level then you should learn the obstacle yourself to overcome it. It’s not a huge task. It’s like asking a puzzle game to give you the answer for free.

Though arcade games and earlier games did ultimately ask that you get better to progress, I feel like saying that's what gaming is all about is sort of untrue? Like it's definitely a core aspect like any other activities like art or sports, but I think what makes games special at least to me, is how immersive their worlds are, and how it presents a fictional reality that encapsulates you and compels you to keep playing so you can enjoy it more. Mario being so broad in its ideas, ESPECIALLY in Wonder, I feel like this game will deliver on that.

@MrStatement

8 ай бұрын

A big reason old video games and even moreso arcade games are so hard is because back when video games first gained popularity in arcades difficulty promoted replaying the game allowing for companies to make more money.

@Doktario_Mystario

8 ай бұрын

arcade games where hard so you'd spent more penny's. In the beginning of movies there wasn't sound or color does that mean that movies have lost appeal because the art of body langeus isn't as important anymore?

Better than just leaving it to Yoshi, why doesn't Nintendo just make a game where every character can be played in every mode, easy or hard?

@silverwalker2934

8 ай бұрын

Might be Balancing Issues

I get where you’re coming from but I think it’s a really smart idea for inclusion for everyone that doesn’t know how to play these types of games.

@amberukiseve

8 ай бұрын

The problem is the execution. Like he said, everyone loves Yoshi, and is equally as important as Luigi, and him getting stuck as easy mode is a huge bummer when the princesses and toads play exactly like Mario. There's no differences with them so why kick out the yoshis

7:08 Remember when in Pokémon Red, Blue, and Yellow Versions the game outright requires you to find several Hidden Machine items in the Safari Zone. You need to somehow navigate it within a step count limit which if you exceed you'll get kicked out and have to pay more money to get a second chance and have to start at the gate again. Modern Pokémon games don't try any of that.

Like another comment said, it's for kids to play with their parents (or older siblings), and it's optional. I will say though that the target age for these easy modes is about 6 and under, but for Mario Wonder, I do wish there was an option to play as yoshi without invincibility

Demeech when Nintendo makes canonical Yoshi a playable character: 😡

Dang, so many people commented without actually watching the video. Really good points.

Something about the segment of nsmbu and nslu forcing some players to go easy is in mario wonder, theres enough charecters for everyone to be normal, or everyone to be easy, or a mix!

Easy mode makes the game wayy better, instead of making the game too easy, they made it harder but put in easy mode for anyone that struggles so it’s definitely a great thing to have

@RainLion10

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, but the thing is the easy mode is put on a beloved Mario character, and some people just wanna play Yoshi normally like everyone else.

@Fire65101

8 ай бұрын

@@RainLion10 bruh he is pretty much normal other than not taking damage, it would make no sense for yoshi to use power ups so it makes perfect sense to make him a easy mode character

Demeech is coming at this from a perspective of a seasoned gamer, which I understand. I have no issues with the addition of these features. I disagree with the concept that people are being robbed of a rewarding experience by playing easy mode. My wife never picked up a video game before she met me. It's significantly more difficult for adults to learn new skills than kids, due to how human development works. Because of this, my wife struggles greatly with controls. Platforming games or any other than that requires precision are a real struggle for her, because those synaptic connections are slow to develop in the adult brain. The kid argument, for me, holds no ground for or against easy mode. I look at this from a perspective of people who just don't have a lot of experience playing games. This isn't a feature I think should be in games, but I won't denigrate a game for having it. I also think it depends on the intent of the game. Mario games have gone in a direction of being played with family and friends. My wife wants to play with me, and Yoshi allows her to do that without making the game boring for me. We can have fun together. However, it would be completely out of place in From Software games.

I understand what you're getting at but I'm honestly glad easy mode is a thing in a lot of these games,makes it much easier for me to play with someone who may struggle with these types of things and don't want to be held back. Yes some can be implemented better but I hope they're here to stay.

Easy modes are great for accessibility. Not everyone has the physical or mental capabilities to play most video games so it is really nice that Nintendo games often have options so more people can enjoy video games

@RainLion10

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, but the thing is the easy mode is put on a beloved Mario character, and some people just wanna play Yoshi normally like everyone else.

At least Smart Steering locks you out of using a lot of shortcuts, so people who do use it generally don't score that high.

You can always just avoid the easy mode things if it really pisses you off but like at the same time it’s not like the game slaps a “THIS CHARACTER IS FOR BABIES” type of thing in your face, these characters can literally be played like the normal difficulty

I never played or cared about Easy Mode in any Nintendo games like Smash Ultimate, NSMBU with Nabbit, etc.

Easy modes don’t ruin a game in the slightest. It’s all optional, and that’s how it will always be, and it’s inclusion doesn’t serve to make the average gamer’s experience worse, it’s too make less experienced players time better. I can agree that it’s not handled well in the Mario games, but again, it’s all optional, nothing is being hurt by the fact that a player can receive assistance from useful power ups to let them finish games they wouldn’t be able to before.

Don't trash talk Nabbit, he's based.

This might be a socially hot take, and it is most definitely not much related to the _Super Mario Bros. Wonder_ video game - but I find the "Smart Steering" setting (along with the "Auto-Accerate" setting) in being turned on in the _Mario Kart 8 Deluxe_ video game on the Nintendo Switch (probably also in the _Mario Kart 8_ video game on the Nintendo Wii U; but I don't have that one, so...) in being essential for racecourses on the Special Cup on 150cc, [150cc] Mirror and especially 200cc such as Bowser's Castle and Rainbow Road. This is because "Joy-Con drift" as well as the way in which some of the buttons are laid out/positioned on the Joy-Cons [I have only played Nintendo Switch video games in handheld mode or tabletop mode (the latter only while playing the _Super Mario Party_ video game) in due to having no room to place my Nintendo Switch dock near my T.V. and having only a bedroom - no living room - of my own to store my belongings (for the most part) for the past 3 years (the length of time in which I had a Nintendo Switch), so I in using a Pro Controller isn't an option even though I have 3 of them (one official, wireless one and 2 knock-off, wired ones)] make it impossible for me to finish in 1st Place - let alone in getting a Triple Star rank - on all 4 racecourses in the Special Cup in the Grand Prix mode. Otherwise, I *_at least_*_ _*_*try*_* to remember to turn off (or don't turn on if already turned off) at least the "Smart Steering" setting (though I often forget to do it, so...) - especially when I'm playing in the online game modes - as having the "Smart Steering" setting turned on prevents you from taking some of the shortcuts on many of the other racecourses aside from Bowser's Castle and even Rainbow Road in the Special Cup, which is actually detrimental in trying to go the fastest and shortest way through most of the racecourses in the _Mario Kart 8 Deluxe_ video game on the Nintendo Switch (and in the _Mario Kart 8_ video game on the Nintendo Wii U).

I dont get the smart steering complaint. Like demeech words it like smart steering is bad because it prevents people from being on an even playing field but doesnt that contradict his earlier point when he says you should learn and adapt in order to feel satisfied when you win? Using smart steering actually puts you at a disadvantage because you cant use shortcuts and go off road. So when you constanly lose then you WILL want to improve by not using it. Like it literally achieves the same effect. Just like the other games he mentioned does. What even is this take?

It doesn't ruin anything, if you don't like it don't use it

A Prime example of Gatekeeping

I actually really like how they utilized Yoshi. I think his limitations make sense and they feel more designed for Multi-player than Single Player, but what I love about their game design in this game the most is how their handicap as support characters goes both ways. Beginners can choose him for an easier time, but if that beginner wants to play as another character, the pro character can play as Yoshi so new players can choose to ride him. Disappointing Yoshi cant be as challenging as the others? Sure, that's expected, but Yoshi are support characters, whether you play as them or along side them, and as a support character, I think thats kind of cool in my opinion.

To all the Yoshi Stans I’m sorry the game is ruined for you.

problem with difficulty is that it doesn't really reward you for beating a challenge, it mostly is there to punish you for some dumb reason

I really wish there were options for the Yoshis and Nabbit like a 3 point health bar

@shadowthief6471

8 ай бұрын

Cuase it sucks the only purple representation on the roster is a baby mode 😣

Bro is onto nothing 🗣️🔥

@forestyxx

8 ай бұрын

Nah he's onto everything

“Git gud” has never been more relevant

6:35 Demeech's transformation from an alligator/crocodile into a chipmunk sounds so funny.

Easy Mode is for Players who Don't want things to be too difficult for themselves! for Challenge-Averse People like MYSELF!

Frankly I don’t have too much of a problem with easy mode except for U Deluxe where players are forced in multiplayer, and who knows maybe one of the Expert Badges for Mario Bros Wonder Is Like A Daredevil Mode like galaxy where you die in one hit, and maybe it’ll bypass Yoshi and Nabbits invincibility, I bet that would make yoshi and nabbit fans happy.

Easy mode done right: "Hey, buddy? Do you want to play easy mode? Just pick right here. You don't have to if you don't want to. You can pick normal (or hard if we have one) mode if you want. But, if you're struggling, the option is there." Easy mode done wrong: "Hey, we see you're struggling, so here. Have this ultimate weapon that can just beat everything for you. No, no. Don't thank us. In fact, we're going to make sure you use this feature by just giving it to you without your consent." An easy mode doesn't ruin a game. It becomes more inclusive because of it. An easy mode that's an optional choice lowers the skill requirement while doing nothing to the skill ceiling. It draws newcomers in while allowing a choice for those who've played those type of games before. It's like riding a bike. When one starts, they need training wheels. The easy mode is the training wheels option. One can go from bike to bike and not much would really change, same with game genres, but when you're first riding your bike, the easy mode/training wheels are needed. Plus, with more families playing games more, it ensures that little timmy can join in with mom and dad and have a fun time, rather than get frustrated because he got 20 game overs.

Blud does NOT understand there are people with disabilities who cant play these games because they are too difficult

Accessibility options will always be a good thing. You can just not use nabbit. Yes, it's a shame you can't casually use the character or game option, but no easy option is a very bad thing.

As a huge Yoshi fan, the fact that he's locked behind easy mode crushed me greatly! The whole point of gaming is for players to build up skill; NOT breezing through skill as fast as you possibly can! For people including myself looking for a challenge, we've had quite enough of easy modes; I'm hoping Nintendo drops this feature in their future titles. That being said, I still think Super Mario Bros. Wonder will be amazing, largely for the creative level design and charm galore! It's just sad that I can't play as Yoshi in the same way I can play as Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy, Toad, and Toadette as normal characters! Yoshi can't even gain the elephant power-up! Sad.

@Doktario_Mystario

8 ай бұрын

ever since the Wii era the video game industry has kept "casuals" in mind when creating games hell the Wii is the very reason the video game industry started becoming easier

@MrStatement

8 ай бұрын

Them locking Yoshi behind an easy mode is definitely weird, however saying that easy modes existing is bad isn't right imo it's literally just an optional accessibility feature.

@theshadowworld2239

8 ай бұрын

They also disrespected Nabs.

@ArtimisArcher

8 ай бұрын

Doesn’t really bother me

@retrooffroadBR

8 ай бұрын

Yoshi isn't exactly locked behind easy mode. The problem is that Yoshi is fundamentally different compared to the "normal" characters. Ever since his first appearance, he has been immune to most sources of damage, only making him run away or get knocked back (except in Super Mario 64 DS). If Nintendo tried to make Yoshi one of those "normal" characters, they'd have to ignore this core aspect of him. But, even if they did, they wouldn't be able to add Yoshi's most important abilities: the tongue attack and the flutter jump. Also, building up skill is not the whole point of gaming. Video games were created to be an interactive experience and, for the most part, to be fun. By having an optional easy mode, you allow more people to enjoy the game, especially if it's more challenging. Remember: the casual audience is the prime target of Nintendo, so adding an easy mode is much more important in their case. Besides, if you don't like easy modes, don't play them. That's the biggest problem with these complaints: they complain about the - and I'll remind you - OPTIONAL easy modes, and end up forgetting that they can just completely ignore them. At least in New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe's case, it's impossible to play 4-player co-op without the easy mode characters, but in other games, they're completely avoidable. So, in conclusion, if you don't want an easy mode, don't play it.

“If you’re bad at a game, you should lose” Why is that such a controversial statement these days?? People are insane ‘, :/

I can definitely understand cases where you're forced to use easy mode if in multiplayer. Case and point, New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe. Wonder has the right idea by having multiple non-handicapped characters so that a whole party of 4 can play the game normally, but also plenty of handicapped characters for a party of 4 as well. If you ask me, I think Super Guides are the right way to go for an "Easy Mode". They don't show up until you fail too many times, and they SHOW YOU how to beat the level normally. Gamess like 3D Land take it way too far with the White Tanooki Suit. You're barely learning anything from using that.

It is a shame that they dedicated easy mode to specific characters rather than make it a toggle however personally it's not that big of deal for me and won't make me like the game any less, just a little pet peeve that I hope is changed in future installments.

Honestly it’s such a easy fix for yoshi in Mario wonder Just give him a health bar

While I do think it is good for a game to have an easy mode, I want to be able to play yoshi normally. A bit of a bummer.

Well devs said that this is gonna be the hardest game to 100% soo... i guess thats why they exist

When are you streaming next?

What would be better for Super Mario Bros Wonder, would be that there would be an Option for Yoshi to have a health system, At the start of the level, Yoshi would start at 2 hp (the equivalent of a super Mushroom) and If Yoshi eat any power ups, he'll gain an aditional life point (Maximum would be 4 or 3 life points).

You're telling me they went through the trouble of introducing this whole new badge system, made several badges specifically to make levels easier, and have the caterpillar guy bug you every 5 minutes about how much easier a stage will be if you change your badge and yet they didn't just include an Easy Mode Badge

Reggie: "The game, is fun. If the game is not fun, what is the point?"

If they made wario a easy mode character that would be a super Utah Demeech's FURY

You can’t assume everyone will think the same way as you. I remember having fun running through the levels as Nabbit and never found it boring. In 3D land as a kid I would purposely get the white tanooki leaf to beat levels because I found it fun to destroy everything in my path without trying.

9:57 I FELT THAT. I play Mario Kart with my parents and when we forget about they have to figure it out themselves and tell me to pause it so they can fix it IT GETS SO ANNOYING

As a "gamer" since the SNES games I will say it is interesting that the easy mode is arguably harder to find now than before and are usually delegated as on-off options that seemingly feel tacked on and doesn't fit to the game - previously difficulty options at least are curated experiences for that particular difficulty so they should be balanced for that.

Yoshi is my favorite mario character and im just happy he's playable in general all by his lonesome..plus..him transforming into an Elephant would give me many nightmares...

I don’t see the problem just don’t play as the ‘easy’ characters they are just there so the lil ones can ‘play’ too you don’t have to play as them

@nurifu_nightly

8 ай бұрын

Yeah but what if I wanna play as yoshi without the easy mode

@yonderalt2662

8 ай бұрын

​@@nurifu_nightly^This

@Doktario_Mystario

8 ай бұрын

@@nurifu_nightly if you're that obsessed with a fictional character just mod it at this point its crazy how unhealthy obsessed are with a character, its legit concerning

@RainLion10

8 ай бұрын

It's not concerning, they wanna play Yoshi normally@@Doktario_Mystario

@Doktario_Mystario

8 ай бұрын

@@RainLion10 yeah but they are making it out as if its the end of the world for them i mean Demeech blamed Nintendo for the existence of Bowsette (which he used "Demeech's Fury on btw), do you consider that normal?

fun is subjective, some people prefer to enjoy a game without the difficulty, i rather it be a choice for people who want it, at least its not completely forced on us

I could understand wanting to play Yoshi and wishing he wasn't "easy mode" because I want to play Yoshi and I will. However, it seems as if he's still effected by the environment, and just because you don't get "damaged" you still receive knockback and have to mind the enemies. Yoshi also has different abilities, and since he cannot pick up powerups like mushrooms or the Elephant transformation, I believe it's more of a "how would we handle this?" He could have health, but that would probably be a little confusing to implement (do all power-ups now just become some Heart or fruit for him to recover HP?). Simply put, I don't see an issue. I'll play with Daisy, Yoshi, and various others. I'm fine that they offer these in various options even, because my son isn't good with some of these games, but I'll be able to play with him and just have some fun. That's all that matters when I game and how we have fun is also different. You may want to be brutally challenged and play the Souls-like series for that. Some want simulation and strategy and others just want to play with others. Frankly I don't think the way the Mario games have offered assist modes has ever made them bad or hurt their entertainment value. My son is playing SM3D World, and he'll get the white Tanooki suit, but he will still die from the platforms, so it removes on obstacle to let him focus on another. When he gets good at a level's challenge (platforming) he does a bit better now learning the way to tackle the enemies or use the power ups.

@bansup

8 ай бұрын

I personally see Nintendo used the ‘easy mode’ to give an excuse to give yoshi his special powers such as eating enemies

I think Toadette/Peachette is the optimal way to implement this sort of mechanic. Have a character with improved mobility built in that can also augment those advantages with standard powerups for fun maneuvering. The only big problem was the lack of character options, so you're forced into it. Basically, they should not only remove the invincibility from Yoshi, but also give him the ability to use powerups, so he's not only easier, but also more fun

Sparks of hope slaps

Why do people even care about an easy mode? It's optional

No, here’s what you do with Nabbit. Flip him on his head. Make him the hard difficulty. He can’t power up because all he does is hoard the power ups. He can’t use badges and you get 3 hits that can’t be replenished during a level. Good luck. He’s not required for completion but if you want the bragging rights to saying you beat the game with the worst character he’s right there. Maybe it’s just me but I always find challenge modes like that amusing. Where you have to ditch all the fancy tricks you normally have access to and get through on your raw skill. Like a megaman buster only run. It makes you engage more with the game rather than just powering your way through.

I did not watch the entire thing because... Well, my focus was everywhere. But lemme explain: having the difficulty executed in the way SMB Wonder did is a good approach, way better than White Tanooki and similar shit. Why? Simple: The Assist Block is a DELIBERATE INSULT to the player. Whether the player dies too many times because of some softlock, or because they created an unwinnable situation, or simply because your little cousin who plays only phone games decided to play while you were taking a dump and wasted almost all your lives in one level. Not only that, but in the game that the first kind of Assist Block was introduced (Super Guide Block in New Super Mario Bros. Wii), and the game where it was properly introduced (Super Mario 3D Land), even dying too many times was enough to deny you a perfect save, because triggering the block spawning was enough to remove the sparkles on the stars in the title screen. And lastly: Super Mario Bros Wonder is a family game. What fun would be there for your little cousin if he kept dying over and over by walking into enemies, jumping at the wrong time? Or for you if he constantly kept getting in your way? Or if you are playing with someone who really sucks at platformers? Plus, unlike the Assist Block which FORCES itself into existence (and as mentioned before, its first iteration and the Super Guide Block were more than just an insult), the easy mode is an ENTIRE SEPARATE option you can go to and fro. PS.: There is also how the industry, indies included, are now leaning towards having the means of making the game easier for those who struggle, while those who don't can still challenge themselves.

In my opinion, the biggest problem with this video is that Demeech only discussed Mario games which are fairly easy. Easy modes make a lot more sense when you look at the video games industry as a whole because most games normal difficulty still provides a decent challenge and some can be just brutal. (Ex. Soulslikes and Metroidvanias)

@Demeech

8 ай бұрын

Like putting a hat one a hat

I’ve been insanely obsessed with South Park, so I loved that magic goo shoutout. LOOK AT POKÉMON, IT’S NOT OKAY TO MAKE FUN OF ANYMORE!

Yeah, it's a lil sad. I was gonna play as red yoshi but I guess I'm gonna have to go with Mario or Y. Toad. Would be cool if it was a toggle option, or if it was was like toadette in U deluxe where she could still take damage, and power up, but was just easier to control and play from the others. In Yoshi's case he could keep the flutter jump and have one transformation. But I guess it saves on resources. I'd imagine elephant Yoshi would have a green trunk replacing his nose, who knows what nabbit would look like. Nabbit transformations would be cool but makes sense for him to be God mode. anyways good vid. (Edit: I forgot this. At least yoshi has knock back when you touch an enemy which would allow you to get thrown in lava but yeah)

Yoshi in every mainline game (not Smash Bros) has been invincible, just running away, or falling down, so it makes sense. Also for Nabbit, when he tries to steal items from toad in the Nabbit levels, he is invincible. It is in the lore. Let kids have an easy mode, get off you high horse, your opinion is dumb. Just don't pick the easy mode/ "Game Journalist Mode". Would you want your yoshi to die if it his an enemy, or would you want it to run frantically away, so you can get it again?

Wanna know the good thing about it? It’s optional so you don’t have to use it!

Sometimes, when it comes to making easy mode characters more difficult, you'd have to think outside of the box. Throw an extra challenge, like not touching a certain element (Coins, Blocks, a certain color, etc), or have Yoshi escort an afk player that isn't a yoshi, nor nabbit. I wanted to play as Yoshi, but I didn't want to play easy mode, so that can work as a compromise.

What's the outro music?

They are going to have the super elephant for the baby mode power up