They use whatever is cheaper, in this case human lives. As soon as robots become cheaper they will swiftly discharge everyone.

@travcollier

3 жыл бұрын

In the developed world, things are cheap and people are expensive. In the developing word, it is the other way around. Dubai and most of the Gulf States import stuff from the developed world and 'labor' from the developing world.

@denziljoe

2 жыл бұрын

Most of us Rope Access technicians love our jobs and hate the idea of robots taking them away! The job is relatively well paid and is statistically safer than construction work on the ground

@da4127

2 жыл бұрын

@@denziljoe yeah, sadly its not up to each individual, its up to the financial aspect of it, if the cost of paying you plus paying compensation if something, hopefully never the case, does happen to you is bigger than getting a robot, you are gonna lose the job to the robot, with perhaps few exceptions where the robot cant access or is not convenient. Its the way of manual labour, its bound to disappear for the most part as soon as automation can be cheaper, safer and faster.

@MrYAMAHA32177

2 жыл бұрын

And the robots will be owned by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation.

@wowhallo

2 жыл бұрын

They don't pay for human lives. They pay the workers money and if that is more economical then that makes more sense than buying robots.

Loving the videos! But dear god being that high up suspended in a basket would actually put me in a coma

@harveycustodio2625

2 жыл бұрын

What's scarier s the Observation Decks since the floor is Glass...

@s.t.santos5928

2 жыл бұрын

I'm nearly in a coma while watching this.

I was expecting this video about how the Burj Khalifa's sewage is collected everyday by trucks and thrown somewhere else because the sky scraper has no septic tank or sewage system But the window cleaning is interesting too

@DianaHernandez-gv7fc

2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit.

@dantheman4838

2 жыл бұрын

I came here for exactly that....lol.

@androcarot9288

2 жыл бұрын

Alot of shiittttt

@Keralasha444

2 жыл бұрын

Wow! You just taught me something.

I talked with this man from Saudi Arabia in a masjid in Khartoum and he said that the initial cost of the robots is prohibitive. Hiring trained workers to use and maintain the systems complicates the issue further. Currently, they can hire immigrants and pay them very small amounts of money. When I asked how common it was to import workers, he let slip that people from Africa are promised good jobs then denied visas; so they are basically stuck and have to work for whatever they are paid. From what he told me, this is more common in the construction industry, I'm not sure about window cleaners. Do you know how true this is or how prevalent the practice is?

@hinatamercury

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if the working condition and pay is terrible for the window cleaners too. Even foreign domestic helpers from Asia have it hard since when they arrive in Saudi Arabia or any Middle East country their passports are kept by their employers so they can't run away after they are raped, treated as slaves, beaten, underfed, locked up in their employers house, prohibited from communicating with anyone, not granted day offs despite it being included in their contract...they only get their passport and freedom back after their contract has expired if they are lucky. A few cases, they return to their birth country in a body bag PS I'm not saying all employers there are bad but there are many who practice modern slavery over there

@matthewbriggs9414

2 жыл бұрын

If they piss off the window cleaners enough, perhaps they'll take hammers out with them and get cracking. While such a protest would probably result in execution, they'd be able to rack up many millions of dollars worth of damage and repair bills as well as create a very public PR and diplomatic nightmare. It would force the slavers to think twice about their labour sourcing and treatment policies.

@crazydragy4233

2 жыл бұрын

This happens with Indian folk in oil rigs. It's honestly disgusting. That whole wretched city is built on people's blood. Lives for a playground of a wealthy few.

@JosephFuller

2 жыл бұрын

@@crazydragy4233 Yeah. You comment reminds me of a "joke" that the person said. Now, I'm wondering if he was evening joking. He said that a good thing about immigrant workers is that; if they die while working, their bones make good building materials.

@Dr.Alveus

2 жыл бұрын

I am from Kuwait, not from Saudi Arabia but i believe we are similar enough for me to answer this. The situation is somewhat complicated as there are many parties involved. On one hand you have businesses that can bring a large number of workers but then fire/not pay some of the workers without following through on proper procedure so the workers just find another job (as the issue gets bigger the supply increases and the pay drops!). On another hand some expats might come to you and ask for a working visa (usually things like barber, cashier, etc) under your name and they will pay you a specific amount. In Saudi Arabia you also have the issue of people coming in for religious purposes but deciding to stay illegally. Hopefully governments step in to at least stop the issue from getting worse. It is not fair to the illegal workers as their rights are close to none, not fair for other expats that come in legally and are productive in the society as their image is tainted by some of the negative public opinions on illegal workers/expats. Not to mention the long-term issues that could arise from depending on this low-skill and cheap labour - It is not sustainable.

Think window cleaning at the Burj Khalifa is crazy? That building is not connected to a sewer system. Lines of trucks line up every day to haul the sewage away.

@bobjob3632

2 жыл бұрын

Poop train is Coming!!!!! Some architect should be prosecuted!!!

@westonrumba1344

2 жыл бұрын

The whole city is stupid and wasteful in terms of lack of infrastructure/a point

You'd be surprised how safe rope access is. I'm a technician that has a IRATA ticket, allowing me to work on ropes under strict supervision. Anyone working under a IRATA/SPRTA certification has to adhere to strict safety and rescue plans among other strict guidelines. While I can't say for certain if their contractors are currently using a recognized rope access system on the Burj Khalifa or not for window cleaning. I do know that IRATA technicians have worked on it in the past though. While I personally wouldn't feel comfortable working that high, it could be safer than you think!

@BelindaCarr

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your knowledge! I agree, they must be taking all the possible precautions on the Burj. I guess it's more of a mental/psychological barrier, swinging off the tallest building in the world with strong winds whipping around you just seems dangerous.

@denziljoe

2 жыл бұрын

I've found that while window cleaning can be ok for a few days, after that I just get bored af! But I'd do the Burj just for the experience. Give me a stadium to aid around in any day! I've taught rope and confined space rescue in the UAE, most reputable companies there are IRATA, what's scary though is that the vast majority of rescue services out there are still using the old US style SRT

@afti03

2 жыл бұрын

@@BelindaCarr i got a bit sick just by looking at the intro, that's some serious stuff to overcome

@famousbowl9926

2 жыл бұрын

I climbed the rafters of a sports arena once. Long beach arena to be specific. They accidentally left the door unlocked. It was also roof access but i was afraid a alarm would sound so i decided against. However! I did leave my name there. My bame is michael and i was there in 2012. Michael was -> was my exact tag along with 2012. I also was WYland 1992 ot some early year. The guy that painted the exterior whale wall. His was THEE biggest and nicest tag. Tags way back to 1960s.. we respect whoever got access to here. As a professional whats your opinion on trespassers that respect the space? Why do you leave the tags there?

@MonkeyJedi99

2 жыл бұрын

@@famousbowl9926 I thought your story was kinda cool, even through the trespassing, until you got to the tagging. I don't get the mindset that has people feel the need to despoil places and property.

The fact that you use both metric systems really warms my brazilian heart.

@charlesg7926

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. That was very nice of her and I like that

@sodalitia

2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by "both metric systems"? There is only one metric system.

@marianaferrer6295

2 жыл бұрын

@@sodalitia I't makes me sad that you think that's true

@sodalitia

2 жыл бұрын

​@@marianaferrer6295 It makes me laugh, that you think you actually used your brain and not your cula, when doubling down on being wrong.

@shadowwsk3507

2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean both imperial system and metric system

more importantly, why aren't we talking about the sewage issues for this building.

@B0Sajwah

2 жыл бұрын

Because it was resolved in a year. They had deadlines for the building. Sadly people spread debunked stories as if they're modern facts. They aren't.

@TheExileFox

2 жыл бұрын

@@B0Sajwah link to proof?

Nice one Belinda. It seems crazy that such a large building has no sewage system - you would have thought they would have put the services in first - it is a joke vanity project.

@isaackvasager9957

2 жыл бұрын

huh? no sewage system?

@fattyboombatty7736

2 жыл бұрын

@@isaackvasager9957 Every morning there's a queue of poop tankers queued up outside to take the ---- away. You'd think infrastructure would be top of the list.

@isaackvasager9957

2 жыл бұрын

@@fattyboombatty7736 so the building does have a sewage system but the city lacks a hookup...is what it sounds like.

@sizor3ds

2 жыл бұрын

@@isaackvasager9957 there's a few videos on it if you're curious. heres one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lGmTmrNtiJObfag.html

@westonrumba1344

2 жыл бұрын

@@isaackvasager9957 A septic tank that's pumped and dumped elsewhere isn't the same as a sewage system

I cannot get enough of your videos Belinda! Thank you for posting. You have a subscriber for life with me!

@BelindaCarr

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, what a compliment! Thank you so much!

@sonnymoon6465

4 жыл бұрын

@@BelindaCarr I second that ! I saw my first video of you yesterday. I will be checking your video page on KZread daily. Just so pleasant to watch and hear ! Thank you !

@BelindaCarr

4 жыл бұрын

@@sonnymoon6465 Thank you!!

Never mind the heights of that ego tower, I have a problem being on a ladder over 10 feet (about 3 meters) high.

fascinating. just found your channel, love the videos i’ve seen so far. high quality, interesting, substantive. thank you!

What about windows that could pivot to the inside for cleaning. I imagine those windows are enormous. Maybe it would cause issues with the interior space. It would be neat if they would spin in the center then lock. You could clean the inside and 180 it for a clean exterior? Seals would be an issue but that's what engineers are for.

@s.t.santos5928

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, why not?

I’m surprised they don’t just power wash it with a helicopter

@mrskye08

2 жыл бұрын

Im not sure either.... But it might be that helicoptets can't carry that much water to clean windows....

@EndoftheBeginning17

2 жыл бұрын

far too dangerous - You ever try to do regular power washing from a helicopter before. I don't think that's done anywhere except as a gimmick

@thembelanihdlamini5395

2 жыл бұрын

Bro my thought exactly. They already have the money

@bobjob3632

2 жыл бұрын

Water is rare in the desert, while manual labor is plenty!!!

@bobjob3632

2 жыл бұрын

2nd Newton’s law says :NOOOOO!!!! This is insane!!!

Both brilliant and funny. Both sides of the Adlantic...cracked me up.

Interesting videos Belinda, thanks @!

Very interesting video Belinda!

Great topic and delivery as usual ! I wonder how they do the Louvre Pyramid , the Cloud Gate in Chicago or even the Arch in Saint Louis ....

I love your perspective on things

This both fascinating and gut wrenching :D I can trip on carpet, cleaning windows that high up is super human. Detergent less glass cleaning is also amazing, soaps and detergents have to go somewhere. In normal, sea level cleaning it is in a bucket or down a drain. A mile high... That's a different problem. The issue of paper towel waste manifests differently. Love your videos.

@Schmuni

2 жыл бұрын

more like balls wrenching ^^

@JeremyPickett

2 жыл бұрын

@@Schmuni Right? There aren't enough dollars in the world to make me say Yes to that job. But I hear Tom Cruise will do it on a date, if a camera is pointed at him :D

Just amazing!

Thanks for bringing new &-fresh information!!!!-👏👏👏👏👏❤

Like always great subject and vary well done. Thanks for sharing

Belinda, you are one of the Best KZreadrs. Essential Craftsman I believe you would enjoy. Thanks. As all ways Enjoy Elohim!

it is just awe inspiring in person.

Great videos, entertaining and educational

Hi Belinda, thank you for the informative video! In the last year or so, there has been a change of relationship between the UA and Israel, opening up the border for tourism which has been impossible until now. I really hope this relationship continues to develop, and more chances for business and interpersonal relationships between Israel and our many neighbours in the middle east will be possible. I can say for me and my friends, we were really excited about this new opportunity to travel to Dubai and see how people live and work in such a unique place.

Amazing (:

I think the Isreali company statement is odd. Obviously people do this activity for the salary. There are hundreds of jobs where workers depend on rope and safety harnesses everyday.

@Bob-jn8gt

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah and they are well paid given most people would shit their pants at that height.

1:44 if you refer to them both as "football" (as that is what the players of the sport generally call them) then i think you are closer goal of pleasing both sides :) and the obvious ambiguity is funny

@parkers3280

2 жыл бұрын

European football (Soccer) is in the U.S aswell :)

@Charoula1608

2 жыл бұрын

@@parkers3280 Haha, "it's 22 football fields, or 17 football fields"

I imagine running up and down the stairs of the building would qualify as Olympic level training. 😂

Rope access with proper training and equipment is quite safe. These methods are not just used for window cleaning, but for other technical work that needs to be carried out in locations where Rope Access happens to be most logical way to get there. Interestingly a company called 'MEGARME' happens to be the leader in this sort of work for the region. There's hardly any tall structure or height related record breaking feat in UAE that didn't have MEGARME folks working on those projects.

Every day is a good day to know a little bit more

A division of Western Gear has SkyClimber in Seattle. I’m wondering if they still are working as a division or just making the traditional baskets? They make gear products for commercial aircraft and huge 10 meter planetary gears for US Navy aircraft carriers. The also make electric motors for ships that use Azopods(sp?) for propulsion. We forget about all of these mechanical systems needed in an increasingly automated world. This includes the skilled machinists, precession assembly and more for these massive systems or gears that are microscopic and mems devices used even in our smart phones.

The Burj IS a hell of an experience and the views are truly stupendous. I never went to the top viewing platform (80 bucks ??. . .pffffft puck dat) but it was still an enjoyable day and the shopping mall was a fun cultural experience . . . .

@spacemanx9595

2 жыл бұрын

Hope you liked the fruits of slavery and oil lords

Fascinating video, and just a few months after it was released, Israel and the UAE signed a peace treaty in August 2020. Maybe they will be willing to work together on technology like that.

They are only interested in what looks luxurious and expensive from the outside but is the cheepest in the inside. And human slaves are the cheepest. Thats why this building is an presige project with no connection to the canalization. That say everything about the builders.....

How many cricket feilds is the windows of the burj Khalifa,

Nope… was going to watch, but got sever vertigo (I have a phobia of heights). 🤪

Perhaps a squadron of drones will clean windows in future using an AI hive mind. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_intelligence

@Yorick257

2 жыл бұрын

Only if they make it in Megamind style!

if you think they use out dated windows cleaning techniques, the constructions are also by low skilled migrant workers often with poor living conditions. and for the waste management, long lines of trucks empty out the waste tanks at bottom of the tower and drive it off to the waste treatment daily as there is no sewage lines to the building.

damn, came to see you talk about the hundreds of poop trucks

We have high rise facade cleaning robot, now coming to Dubai. Burj Khalifa is our target

Great video again! The only point where I would kind of disagree is about the need to find other ways to clean the windows than using manual labour. I understand that unfortunately it might not be regulated everywhere but jobs like this are actually really secure, just like climbing in general, it's must safer than we think. A good friend of my is doing her formation soon to become a "cordist" (which is the french name for this job) and she can't wait. A lot of people love to work at heigh and it creates lots of jobs.

@fast1nakus

2 жыл бұрын

Ye, sorry, sounds very stupid.

UAE is always known for its zeal to achieve sustainability. Due to recent ties with Israel I think they would have already started negotiating a deal

Its Ironic, glass tower in dessert. Also this building should have been self cleaning cuz damn the amount of effort to clean it alone

One of the solutions is to choose materials and finishes that don't show the dirt. When asked what color car I just bought I respond with "don't wash me gray". Black, navy, red, and even white cars show a lot of dirt and I have other things I'd rather do than scrub the car all the time. What treatments can be put on windows to reduce or eliminate cleaning of that tall building? Or even the non-glass areas could they use a brushed or stippled pattern? Many helicopter windows are treated with 'RainX' or equivalent because windshield wipers do not work under the propeller draft. Perhaps they could style the building to look dirty even when it's freshly washed so no one has the urge to run up there with a bucket and squeegee?

@Nauskills

2 жыл бұрын

No amount of materials and special finishes will be able hide the millions of dead insect, spider webs and bird feces, especially on a transparent material.

Are there nano glass coatings that would negate the need to clean the glass; "self cleaning glass"?

Nobody Americans: 1 football field in length

This might be a very dumb question, but why can't we just clean it by squirting water/chemicals with moderate pressure hoses from the ground?

@NanoMan737400

2 жыл бұрын

There's no way the squirting would get to the top of the building. You could put those hoses on the top of the building and wash downwards, but you'd need really strong pumps to get water that high. It's a huge water and power waste, so not very good considering the arid weather there

Watching this video with mild acrophobia makes my thighs hurt. lmao

"Use an ISRAELI company?? . . . . .ARE YOU INSANE?? . . . . "how much?? . . . ."

It never needed to be so tall

2:50 If you are going through that much work to create a system like this; Im surprised they didn't didn't go the extra mile and automate this entire process. If they have all the pieces to get people to that location, all they would need to do it attach some lines with detergent water and distilled water, then use water jet sprayers

@JosephFuller

2 жыл бұрын

I asked the same question, I was told that it was looked into, unfortunately, the winds make it impossible and a fully automated process would not be able to see the results of their own work. Dust and pollutants can get mixed with sprays and robots cannot see if something has actually removed the dust or not. The cost of development of the tech was way beyond what could be justified. Especially since window cleaners can be so cheap, depending on the company.

i think those robots are a possibility now.

Japan had some window cleaning robots

Deminralized water is powerful at cleaning without residue, or minimal at least. Having a human rather than a robot means there are trained eyes looking at the maintenance required. Us men folk will happily do dangerous work for a pay check, it is better if we are sent out with breakfast and a packed lunch after a promise to come home safely.

Constantly

I always thought drones could be used to clean windows of skyscrapers.

Can you talk about the poop trucks?

Yes, Iffy

It's Dubai. I'm surprised the building isn't on hydraulic jacks so you can clean the windows at ground level.

NGL that robot looks very clunky and quite a ways off a finished product

12 hectares (120,000 square metres) is easy to visualise but 1.29 million square feet? How do you even start to visualise that if you only do imperial?

@Yorick257

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe convert it into square yards (miles?). Large numbers are generally hard to comprehend, 120 000 square meters is a strange number as well, only after your conversion to hectares I got the scale.

@Joe90V

2 жыл бұрын

@@Yorick257 120,000 is a simple number really because you divide by 10,000 to get 12 and can easily be done in your head in a fraction of the time it takes to use a calculator to convert imperial bananas. It's bizarre that US people persist with imperial bananas when it is so ludicrous and unintelligible to the rest of the world (almost).

Can't they just install a variation of car wipers in the panels?

@weeveferrelaine6973

2 жыл бұрын

Grease from oils mixed with dust/soot would be the main problem. Some level of scrubbing would be needed, and not just soap. Even mild scrubbing would be enough, but car wipers do not achieve that well, and having so many of them that had bristles would certainly add significant weight to the sides of the tower, not to mention cost.

@tabbris

2 жыл бұрын

@@weeveferrelaine6973 I see thanks for the reply!

Poop train!!! Somebody gives this architect a Nobel prize!!!

I'd have to wear brown pants to clean the windows.

I grew up in a tiny no name city of no name country and was always obsess with Dubai crazy construction. Few years ago I was standing in front of the Burj and decided to do not even rise to the top. With all the respect to architectors and constructors, everything looks vulgar, out of context and not sustainable. I think all the money wasted and no chance it can be somehow recouped. Time will tell let’s revisit this building in 50 years.

since they dont connected to a sewerage, with tons of cheap workers and trucks that transport the human waste .

That building’s poop has to be hauled away in trucks. Gross.

Talk about the poop trucks.

Yeah why does it cost 🤯🤯 probably a fortune 🤔🤔

Why not use some sort of robot to clean windows???

But how many cricket fields 🤔

Slaves: they use slaves. Saved you 6:55

Or you design the buildings which have lesser windows and easy maintenance access, there, problem solved.

Dubai is the definition of a city that grew faster than the technology needed to maintain it efficiently and thats kinda awesome in a weird way. Realistically that city shouldn't even exist and the fact that it does makes me happy.

kudos to the manual window cleaners, -one has to think of the legions of foot soldiers sacrificed to epic battles of old - to acknowledgement of Ms Carr's insights. How is this not an obvious acknowledgement for the use of robotic systems? At a time when replacement of human with mechanical industry is paramount in our industrial economies of today, how is this not an obvious win for the non human side? One almost has to think of the ages when disposal of human waste was allocated to classes of human labor verses the mechanical disposal of human waste we take for granted today. Kudos to the human window cleaners but how is not replacement with mechanical replacement not a win win for all?

OH THIS THING IS MAKE SOME CHANGE TO ALL OVER THE ENGINEES WHO HAS THE MECHANICAL FIELDS . AS A DESIGNER IF I GET A CHANCE TO MAKE A FLYING CLEANING MACHAINE I WOULD LIKE TO THE PART OF THAT . ONE DAY I SAW INFROND OF MY OFFICE GLASS IN THE 16 TH FLOOR ' TWO GUYS ARE CLEANING THE GLASSES WHILE I AM WORKING INSIDE . AFTER THAT SHOCK I HAVE BEEN TO CONTEMPLATED MORE AND MORE BAOUT THE PROBLEM OF THAT KIND OF LABOURS . THERE WE NEED TO FIND A SLUTION FOR THAT IS MANDOTORY ( FLYING CLANER ) ITS LIKE ROBOTIC AND SENSORABLE ) INSHAH ALLH I WILL BE FIND

What a gorgeous figure

The only thing I want to know is how much those window cleaners get paid...not enough is the answer I guess.

i could have sworn you were indian, not arab :O

Some jobs was not made for me.

But there is a lot of shit inside the building(sewage) i mean.

@B0Sajwah

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. Thats an old video and the sewage system was completed in the next year since completion

I, for one, don't want to see robots replacing these men. They willingly put their lives at stake for the higher salary they get thanks to the hazard pay - and professions like that demand respect and must continue to exist to aid in social mobility. You destroy the working class' access to middle class pay cheques by bringing robotics in to replace them, and I'd rather that field of research just fall by the wayside in this case.

Dubai has super cheap and easily expendable "slave" labour so yeah robots would have to be extremely efficient and fast if labour is to be replaced.

As a climber I find nothing wrong with cleaning by hand or"the old way". why make more moving parts?

@kugelblitzingularity304

2 жыл бұрын

ropes and harnesses are way safer than people like to imagine, but then again, when the equipment is left to be maintained by corporate management...

@90hijacked

2 жыл бұрын

its one thing to do something as a hobby or a sport, doing it day after day with little rest or regard to the condition of the weather / your body to keep whats likely to be the hightst paying job they'll encounter is different.

@fast1nakus

2 жыл бұрын

Do you also climb every day for like 10h in a desert?

You fly a plane with water and another plane with soap suds around and around it.

I.lpve.emrat165.7ryast.love❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

Move: Why would you move from Dubai to US? Dubai has a better economy and better career opportunities.

Why don’t they use a Machine to spay soap and water like car wash if they have the rails

Me

Lifes (if migrant workers) are cheap in the middle east ....

What an ugly building, and what a sad fate for the workers. I am glad this monstrocity will have sunken into the sea within 50 years.

Except the poo poo problem

Hypothetical question: what would you choose; A human falling from the Burj Khalifa, or a window cleaning robot?

Job creation for the masses is what I'm all for. We need blue collar workers too and I would imagine that these window cleaners are well compensated. Also the risk on the ground to passersby from massive falling machines is eliminated which is an added benefit.

@fast1nakus

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like something a person inside the hotel would say, rather then the actual people hanging outside.

Spray 9/11?

You clean it by cleaning it

Shame they never spent any money on the sewage which is collected by trucks... cheap foreign labour