How do we know how old the Sun is?

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Royal Observatory Greenwich astronomer Brendan explains how we determine the age of our Solar System from space rocks and how we can work out how long the Sun has left before it engulfs the inner planets.

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  • @hownottogame8423
    @hownottogame84234 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Explained so almost anyone can understand!

  • @tantiwahopak101
    @tantiwahopak1016 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for saying km.

  • @funhax7597
    @funhax75977 жыл бұрын

    still didnt explain how exactly u age a star 😒😒

  • @Ganymede2076

    @Ganymede2076

    4 жыл бұрын

    2026

  • @hownottogame8423

    @hownottogame8423

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes it did....

  • @realdragon

    @realdragon

    Ай бұрын

    @@hownottogame8423 No it didn't. Let me ask you this, knowing that rubidium-87 have life time of 48,8x10^9 years tell me how to calculate age of Sun

  • @Toadzx
    @Toadzx7 жыл бұрын

    two major problems (at least). 1. the assumption that everything in the solar system formed at the same time. 1.5. the assumption that the material that they date is from our solar system. 2. the assumption that the energy from the sun we get on earth is equal all around the sun. 2.5 do they calculate that the energy we get on earth is all of it or do they try to include what would be going off in the other directions as well?

  • @abdelarmstr5173

    @abdelarmstr5173

    7 жыл бұрын

    1. It's a good assumptions, and comparative studies were done on different materials to approximate the age of the sun. it's an almost impossible scenario for a planet to be older than the star it's orbiting. 1.5 Also a good assumption. Especially because of our better understanding of stellar formation and nucleosynthesis. 2. That's a matter of principal. If the sun had a preferential direction, it would behave very differently. 2.5 You just measure the ratio (the flux of energy emission). With this ratio you can estimate the amount of energy that leaves the sun.

  • @Toadzx

    @Toadzx

    7 жыл бұрын

    Abdel Armstr 1. Just the opposite as a planet would take less time to form than a sun, there is no reason to believe a planet couldn't form before a star let alone all the non planetary material. 1.5 also a bad assumption. Jupiter catches all sorts of debris coming from outside the solar system, it's unreasonable to assume it catches everything. 2. The sun "prefers" different directions all the time they're called solar flares, and naturally a solar flare projects more energy than the rest of the sun, and since we only see half the sun ( maybe less) it's a bad assumption to think we can estimate all the energy leaving the sun. 2.5. I'll take that as a yes they do include an estimate of energy from every direction.

  • @abdelarmstr5173

    @abdelarmstr5173

    7 жыл бұрын

    1. No, not the opposite. First, if a planet evolves in a lesser time, then that means its lifespan doesn't not exceed the Sun's. So I don't know how this suggests that a planet is older than the star. I'm not saying that it's impossible, I'm saying that it's extremely rare for a planet to be orbiting a star it didn't emerge from. Why? for multiple reasons. Planets contain heavier elements like iron. The only way that for a planet to exist is by nucleosynthesis of heavier elements from the explosion of a star (which is proven for our case, considering that the sun is a second generation star). The debris of these heavier elements coalesces to form planets within the gravitational field of the resulting stellar object. It's a very delicate scenario for a planet to leave a star, be untouched, and go orbit another star. Today, we also have nucleocosmochronology which is a great tool since we know so much about the sun's elements, and it confirms the age of the sun. 1.5 The extreme majority of the debris that Jupiter catches comes from the asteroid belt, which is within the solar system. I think you underestimate the huge size of the solar system compared to outside debris, which usually goes straight to the sun if ever caught. 2. Surely the flux of emitted energy from the sun's surface is heterogeneous, but its flares are local turbulence. The sun's behavior, on a macroscopic level, is isotropic, meaning that it behaves the same in the three directions. Please note that solar flares is not the same as preferential directions. Plus we see the whole sun's surface because its rotation is not synchronized with the earth's rotation the way the moon is. Within 24.5 days we can see the whole surface. 2.5 Yes all of the sun's emission is taken into account. I think that even today, calculations include small corrections of any particular flux that is not average. I'm not sure, but I think so because the age is given with very good accuracy (the margin of error is 0.9%)

  • @abdelarmstr5173

    @abdelarmstr5173

    7 жыл бұрын

    I think I'm wrong about 2 when I said "the sun's behavior is isotropic." Probably the sun's rotation affects is emission flux. But even in this case, scientists can work out the disproportionate emission by computer models knowing simply the sun's rotation parameters.

  • @Toadzx

    @Toadzx

    7 жыл бұрын

    1.and1.5: it's not the life span that's important it's the starting date, the planet may go cold before the sun or after the sun depending on when it was formed. " resulting stellar object", another assumption, the theory goes that there was a proto star before our current star then it went supernova and excreted all this iron. including all the iron that makes up the suns core so the sun would have to reform, your statement implies it's already there fully formed. when a star goes supernova the planets orbiting it go elsewhere probably in pieces but for all you know the astroid belt could have come from another solar system that blew up already. 2. how exactly can you tell how fast the sun is rotating if even at all, it's a lump of hot gas with no distinguishable features like the moon has? However that wasn't really my point anyway, my point was there could be numerous solar flares of varying sizes happening on the side of the sun we can't see so theres no way for us to accurately measure the energy produced by them. there are more than 3 directions.

  • @djalittlegamer6900
    @djalittlegamer69003 ай бұрын

    The Sun Is Over 4M Years Old

  • @jackdasilva6327
    @jackdasilva63273 жыл бұрын

    Apparently e=mc2 is the equation for everything...

  • @ledzeppelin820
    @ledzeppelin8203 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn’t Rubidium decay be different because of our atmosphere ??? & if so how would we know the decay rate in space ???

  • @realdragon

    @realdragon

    Ай бұрын

    Decay rate doesn't change

  • @jaredpatterson1701
    @jaredpatterson17018 жыл бұрын

    So basically they know how old the star is based on whether or not some of its energy reached the earth that they were focusing on through some instrument. And then calculating its distance away for how long it would've taken to get here, and then its mass by it's gravitational influence through newton's law.

  • @lucashall1192
    @lucashall11925 жыл бұрын

    The presentation of your explanation was great, but when you arrived at the conclusion I still didn't feel like you answered the main question. You were able to give an idea of how much time seems to be left until the sun burns out. However, that is not an explanation for how much time the sun lived before the moment of testing. I find your explanation to be more of a circular argument that assumes it is the age you stated, just because that is the initial assumption you had when you first started to explain. I'm still left asking the question of why you think it's that specific age... Are you just basing it off assumptions you are making from observing other seemingly similar stars? Assumptions. Assumptions. Assumptions. I'd love to see your revised version of this--following a bit more investigative work.

  • @sudiptoits
    @sudiptoits3 жыл бұрын

    Very very helpful video, Though not in the way I expected it. I wanted to determine the age of our nearest star Proxima Centauri so I searched on Google and I saw this video and I watched it but I didn't have and want a meteorite crashing down on my head and didn't know all about this Rubidium stuff. It though helped me to determine how much hydrogen or son generates per hour and how much is changed into energy, that to per hour. I think the number would be half of the number of atoms in the universe do I don't know the number of atoms in the universe but the number is mind-bogglingly huge. Anyway, thanks for recommending to have a meteoroite crashing down on my back garden, I will try that very soon.

  • @mr.OMnistAR
    @mr.OMnistAR Жыл бұрын

    Kibutsuji muzan :noooooooooooooooo

  • @uefamikep
    @uefamikep5 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait until the sun goes out!

  • @claytonjackson5709

    @claytonjackson5709

    5 жыл бұрын

    Are you okay?

  • @Ineedanaccountnow0

    @Ineedanaccountnow0

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well you literally can't wait so...

  • @tiamacklin9442

    @tiamacklin9442

    4 жыл бұрын

    So you can’t do wait that your gonna freeze to death

  • @uefamikep

    @uefamikep

    4 жыл бұрын

    In the middle if the depression, we all gonna wish for it lmao

  • @radupatron6137
    @radupatron61374 жыл бұрын

    so we asume that this is the age of the sun. because the theory that all the stuff from our solar system formed in the same time is just a theory. right?

  • @wadiarisha
    @wadiarisha8 жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @Jonquil_Studios
    @Jonquil_Studios10 жыл бұрын

    "The Earth, the planets, commets and moons were all formed at the same time."

  • @Toadzx

    @Toadzx

    7 жыл бұрын

    even to say their "about" the same age is a huge leap of faith that borders on circular reasoning.

  • @sciomind7975

    @sciomind7975

    6 жыл бұрын

    The entire Solar System was formed from an enormous rotating collection of materials, mostly hydrogen, but also other heavier elements as well. (Hydrogen and some helium were formed in the aftermath of the Big Bang itself - actually about 400,000 years after the Big Bang - while even heavier elements were formed inside previous stars, which have since exploded, releasing their heavier elements.) Due to the universal attraction of all matter to all other matter, this cloud of materials began to coalesce into the Sun and planets. Anyway, due to their common origin in this cloud of materials, this is how we know that the Sun and other constituents of the Solar System are all roughly the same age. I hope that helps.

  • @radupatron6137

    @radupatron6137

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sciomind7975 this is a theory. we dont know for sure. so we asume that this is the age of the sun.

  • @sciomind7975

    @sciomind7975

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@radupatron6137 To refute a statement by saying "it is just a theory," does nothing to actually refute it. Some people hold the "theory" that some god created the entire universe in six days, based upon the "theory" that some collection of "approved" writings, produced during primitive and superstitious times, were not merely the product of the mystical and superstitious people who lived in those times, but were actually the result of "divine inspiration." Now, while one could debate the faults or merits of this or any other "theory," based upon actual logic and evidence, to merely state that something is a "theory" does nothing at all to assess the logic and evidence behind it. Furthermore, to believe in a "theory" in the absence of logic and evidence, or despite strong contradictory logic and evidence, is really not to have a well-formulated theory at all, but something less..."faith," i.e., beliefs accepted not based upon logic or evidence - or even despite contradictory logic and evidence. The short comment I made above, is just that, a short comment. It was an integration and condensed statement of our very best understandings regarding the formation of the sun and planets (our solar system) based upon countless observations and calculations, all of which support (and none of which contradict) the points I made regarding the common origin and age of the solar system and its constituent parts, namely the sun and planets. This theory is not just an "opinion," or merely something accepted on "faith." It is supported by our knowledge of such things as particle physics, astrodynamics, the observations of countless other solar systems throughout the universe, at every stage along in their life-cycle, and much more, too much to mention here. If you have anything of substance to add, other than the rather empty fact that this is a "theory," along with your misunderstanding that scientific theories of this type are not based in the most solid of facts and observations, that would be great, and might even lead to a productive valuable exchange. As it is, however, your statement IS empty, does nothing to discredit the theory or the evidence behind it, and instead does more to point out your own lack of knowledge on the topic than anything else.

  • @irondiamond9959
    @irondiamond99596 жыл бұрын

    the sun is still young

  • @SotraEngine4
    @SotraEngine49 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to measure the size of the sun and the earth

  • @kishorenarayanarao5606
    @kishorenarayanarao56068 жыл бұрын

    Y g no new video

  • @BradyAus
    @BradyAus8 жыл бұрын

    5000 Views EXATCLY!

  • @prabhasingh6976

    @prabhasingh6976

    3 жыл бұрын

    Actually 46k views 😅

  • @BradyAus

    @BradyAus

    3 жыл бұрын

    Apologies, that was 9 year old me. 14 year old me would like to say it had 5,000 views when I was watching. K?

  • @prabhasingh6976

    @prabhasingh6976

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BradyAus me too 14 same pinch!!

  • @brucebaner1
    @brucebaner15 ай бұрын

    There is no way we know how old anything is thats been here before humanity.

  • @vahemargaryan9070
    @vahemargaryan90705 жыл бұрын

    sun is 4.6 billion years a world is.... oh shit 4,543E9 years old

  • @martinbarfoed
    @martinbarfoed7 жыл бұрын

    and how do they know to measure Carbon-Dating???????????????

  • @mmmmusic3856
    @mmmmusic38565 жыл бұрын

    So confused 👀🤔🤨

  • @millennialfair8109
    @millennialfair81095 жыл бұрын

    Middle-aged is the answer

  • @shamimakber3384
    @shamimakber33845 жыл бұрын

    The sun is 5 billion years old

  • @teti_99
    @teti_99 Жыл бұрын

    Humanity will all be long gone before 5 billion years is up. Lol

  • @greezyfbaby8391
    @greezyfbaby8391 Жыл бұрын

    The thought of this sounds good but no you were very confused that that's true nor our technology meteorologist be wrong about simple things like weather forecast we are here this information is good too I guess think about and try to believe no human know how far we are from the Sun no one knows God personally no one's saying the dinosaurs and excetera

  • @mehdisayed5263
    @mehdisayed52633 жыл бұрын

    Isnt this Just a theorie?. It isnt Proven right?

  • @RB-bs2hm

    @RB-bs2hm

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m with you on this one

  • @that_one_sanrio_fan
    @that_one_sanrio_fan4 жыл бұрын

    The sun is 45,00000000 years old

  • @greenway561
    @greenway5615 жыл бұрын

    The earth, planets ,comets and moon were made at the same time??? This makes absolutely no sense at all... Everything we're taught is a lie. How could we as a whole, be so easily influenced into believing such a theory.

  • @EmmyDawnbrooke

    @EmmyDawnbrooke

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because our solar system was approx created at the same time. Ofcourse this is not 100% accurate, and we might find out more exact numbers over time.

  • @miriyochanan7140

    @miriyochanan7140

    3 жыл бұрын

    It sounds a very Biblical answer... creation in fast speed.

  • @demongaming3556
    @demongaming35564 жыл бұрын

    When the sun reaching the 5 million age the world is gonin to end... Ar u know that

  • @leecook9419
    @leecook94196 жыл бұрын

    February 7, 2018. Roaring Springs, Texas USA. Origin of our Sun. From The Urantia Book: Urantia [our planet] is of origin in your sun, and your sun is one of the multifarious offspring of the Andronover nebula. [Urantia Book 57:1.1] 875,000,000,000 years ago the enormous Andronover nebula . . . was duly initiated [by Paradise Force Organizers]. [Urantia Book 57:1.6] The progressive and orderly evolution . . . of the Andronover nebula [then] began. [Urantia Book 57:1.6] By 5,000,000,000 years ago, our "sun has achieved relative stability." [Urantia Book 57:5.1] Our sun "will shine on as of present efficiency for more than twenty-five billion years." [Urantia Book 41:9.5]

  • @flowersofthefield340

    @flowersofthefield340

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣💩

  • @AsifNythanSEGA
    @AsifNythanSEGA10 ай бұрын

    This is so disturbing...😢

  • @mikegarber6472
    @mikegarber64725 жыл бұрын

    The Earth is older than the sun

  • @streetsurvivor687
    @streetsurvivor6873 жыл бұрын

    This is a bunch of BS the Sun is not 93 million miles away it is right over your head where you can see it. You can see clouds in front or behind the Sun, is the clouds in outer space too? Does it rain from outer space? No it don't. You cannot create or destroy energy the Sun is pure energy it would never burn out. There's no such thing as gravity that's why helium goes up cuz it's lighter than oxygen. The Sun is not above Earth it is inside of Earth that's why I higher you go the colder it gets🤔

  • @preslymulcare7115
    @preslymulcare711510 жыл бұрын

    Carbon dating has faults as well as Rubidium dating. Why does mankind make educated guesses, call it fact, teach it to our children, and then find out "new" information that changes everything we ever new. I teach my kids the bible, never been proven wrong yet!

  • @knight654654

    @knight654654

    9 жыл бұрын

    That's like saying unicorns exist because no one has proven that they don't exist. How can you prove something doesn't exist, when it doesn't exist? :') Your logic is so flawed. You see facts, that have real evidence backing them up... And then you look at the bible and think... Well, the bible must be true because it can never be proved wrong! All this scientific evidence that lots of people worked extremely hard for because 'my bible is the one truth because it cannot be disproven (nor proven)'... I really hope you don't have anymore kids.

  • @genpain

    @genpain

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol. The bible has been proven stupid, immoral and fiction for a long time. You just dont consider it and blindy follow stupidity and immorality.

  • @miriyochanan7140

    @miriyochanan7140

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@knight654654 carbon dating has had some problems with it

  • @MarMystery
    @MarMystery9 жыл бұрын

    all the universe and the material exists,is 5775 years,earth and sun also, science is wrong about it for many reasons im not gonna share,but thats the truth,now gl hearing that very idiotic lecture.

  • @inbracedefeat

    @inbracedefeat

    9 жыл бұрын

    I would like to hear more. Why do you believe that the universe and everything in it is this age?

  • @DevAngelo

    @DevAngelo

    8 жыл бұрын

    +wuddupdoe his/her religion depends on science being wrong in so many ways... This is just one of the many

  • @MarMystery

    @MarMystery

    8 жыл бұрын

    +wuddupdoe judaism has the age of the world, the jewish date today is 5776 , watch a video by robert gentry the age of the world , he goes step by step to show why barbon dating that the scientists use is just misleading and really inaccurate,if u want a proof god exist watch video here on youtube called "proof that god exist in 5 minutes" if u understand a little about quantom u'll enjoy this lecture its by gerald schowder,this 2 videos will prove to u 2 things god existence and age of he world (in a scientific way) gerald has a longer version to explainhe universe creation ,this is basically solved mysteries that no many appreciate, if u do,ull enjoy it alot.

  • @MarMystery

    @MarMystery

    8 жыл бұрын

    +wuddupdoe sorry to to find the video by robert gentry type in google divineinformation robert gentry (im talking science)and judaism is not against science,nothing science said contradicts judaism its ignorant to say so,science is super useful for indication to everything.

  • @MarMystery

    @MarMystery

    8 жыл бұрын

    +jakegibson read what i wrote just now,my religion and science has 0 contradictions,im talking science , i just led that guy to a video by robert gentry literally proving carbon dating technique scientists use will never has even a close indication to the age of the world,and no scientist could ever contradict what robert said, because he gave solid facts there ,something scientists just cant deal with.

  • @girlpower263
    @girlpower2634 жыл бұрын

    So let me get this straight. There’s almost no evidence for the earth being older than 6000 years and we know the earth was around before the sun. Yet the sun is somehow it’s older.

  • @harxist

    @harxist

    3 жыл бұрын

    tf ur talking about the earth age is stimated to be 4.5 billions years old

  • @mouniamounia7564
    @mouniamounia75643 жыл бұрын

    The sun is 4 trillion years old

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