How Do LOCAL PRICES Work? (Spain Open Beta 1.5.2)

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  • @OneProudBavarian
    @OneProudBavarian9 ай бұрын

    I failed to record in-game sound in this video because I'm really smart!

  • @darth_virtus

    @darth_virtus

    9 ай бұрын

    and the in work the title doesn't need an s because the noun "prices" is plural and not singular

  • @holydoggo4822

    @holydoggo4822

    9 ай бұрын

    call you the one silly bavarians

  • @Nickunparalleled

    @Nickunparalleled

    9 ай бұрын

    We can tell by your buttoned up shirt and glasses. Smart AF 😂

  • @miquelnadal9962
    @miquelnadal99629 ай бұрын

    Spaniard here. Spanish history in the XIX century is mostly a sequence of civil wars and constitutions, Carlistas and Liberales, coups by the armed forces (which were quite liberal in the beginning) and by the end of the century strong "caciquismo" and "turnismo" in politics (basically electoral corruption). This seems not to be represented in the current version of Vic3, hopefully it gets better in the future. Another thing that could be represented is that the colonies should be unincorporated states rather than puppets (Cuba specially), and then have some mechanic to give them more or less autonomy (Spain tried so but by the end of the1890s it was too late).

  • @Afri_Pandora_Archieve
    @Afri_Pandora_Archieve9 ай бұрын

    Spain is difficult to roleplay in the current victoria3 version (atleast for me a Spaniard). I see so many component lacking wich were of great importance during this period, I would argue that even it starting laws are wrong. The armed forces should be mainly controlled by liberals, the church should not start in goverment and in fact it should be very angry and many other things like this.

  • @Craken_401

    @Craken_401

    9 ай бұрын

    Completamente de acuerdo compañero

  • @torrent6181

    @torrent6181

    9 ай бұрын

    Even the map is wild, they give a chunk of La Mancha to Valencia for no conceivable reason.

  • @antoniolozanofenoll7415

    @antoniolozanofenoll7415

    9 ай бұрын

    @@torrent6181 There's a reason. That chunk used to be part of Murcia, and they put Murcia under Valencia, a terrible decision.

  • @torrent6181

    @torrent6181

    9 ай бұрын

    @@antoniolozanofenoll7415Oh, I see. I agree that’s a stupid decision they made, putting Murcia with Valencia. I understand they needed to merge smaller states, but Murcia literally shares more history with both Castilla and Andalucía than Valencia. They had three options and chose the worst one.

  • @marchernandez4596

    @marchernandez4596

    9 ай бұрын

    If I recall correctly, there was the first carlist war going on?

  • @Rincewindus
    @Rincewindus9 ай бұрын

    Man, I like local prices, but having it determined by a couple of techs, and not RAILROADS is pretty silly.

  • @VarenvelDarakus

    @VarenvelDarakus

    9 ай бұрын

    yeah i figgured better infrastructure will impact it as it would make sense , ports and railroads , but having it tech driven will just mean that better tech countries at start once again get advantage over others , making smaller poorer countries even harder to play now:c

  • @HanakoSeishin

    @HanakoSeishin

    9 ай бұрын

    What do you mean? Railroads always did determine local prices by the means of infrastructure and market access, and still do, what's new is they've put a limit to how much the prices can be affected. Local prices are not a new mechanic, they were just mostly not doing anything, because by building enough railroads you decreased the local influence on the prices to nothing, and now they've put a limit to this.

  • @Rincewindus

    @Rincewindus

    9 ай бұрын

    @@HanakoSeishin I mean that the infrastructure cap is the only effect that railroads have on local prices moving to equilibrium, which is very silly. They're basically the largest impact on trading costs in history, making an enormous number of things that previously would have been uneconomical to trade prime business. It'd make way more sense to have the impact on local prices be affected by the number of railroads than say, having the Stock Exchange tech.

  • @HanakoSeishin

    @HanakoSeishin

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Rincewindus the local prices ARE affected by the number of railroads by the means of the infrastructure. Just try not building any railroads in a state with lots of industries and see how low market access affects the local prices. This was in from the release of the game. You would just always build enough railroads to have 100% market access, which would result in local prices having no effect, and so you would hardly see it. The change now is that even with 100% marker access local prices will still have an effect. But number of railroads influencing local prices was in there from the start.

  • @Rincewindus

    @Rincewindus

    9 ай бұрын

    @@HanakoSeishin "the local prices ARE affected by the number of railroads by the means of the infrastructure." No, they aren't. Try building a railroad in a state with a surplus of infrastructure and marvel at how the local prices remain completely unaffected.

  • @starguy321
    @starguy3219 ай бұрын

    Local prices is really going to help Britain, where a great deal of industrialisation came because resources were near the factories (the iron works at Dowlais benefitted from the coal mines nearby for example). It would be good to see ports reduce local prices (or at least align more with market prices.) Access to ports helped Lancashire and London’s industrialisations, with Lancashire’s mills often being cotton-based because of the imports via Liverpool and later Manchester (Yorkshire mills ran wool rather than cotton as it was cheaper locally, which could also be reflected in the price system).

  • @Afri_Pandora_Archieve
    @Afri_Pandora_Archieve9 ай бұрын

    Narvaez was a moderate (for the time) liberal but i think espartero (progresive liberal) should start as the head of the armed forces. He would even take the regencie for himself after Maria Cristina fleed (probably for having to deal with constant rebelions from the military and the national militia) and having to concede to them as the liberals were the only pilar of his rule as conservative supported Don Carlos claims

  • @sangaperezgimenez6717

    @sangaperezgimenez6717

    Ай бұрын

    maria cristina left because of the mayor's law failure that went against the constitution of 1837

  • @timteichmann6830
    @timteichmann68309 ай бұрын

    I'm playing the Beta right now and I just love the new mechanic even though I wished there to be more options to influence the local market price. Still it's a great addition that changed the whole game and how you should manage your economy

  • @monkeyorful
    @monkeyorful9 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the flattering introduction :)

  • @oldrabbit8290
    @oldrabbit82909 ай бұрын

    tbh, the local price should be reworked to reflect the actual distance, instead of just a quick % modifier that applied to all. There should be a clear difference between a good produced in the next state, and the same good shipped from the other side of the world. Maybe transport should be moved from a mere service good to become an integrated part of the price, in the sense that the local price will be the sum of base price (at the nearest available production site) + transport cost (price of transport x distance). Transport will be produced at both rail and port (could be separated into land and sea transport), so state with railway and port will have much lower "imported" price than those without.

  • @Njordin2010

    @Njordin2010

    8 ай бұрын

    This!

  • @adultadulturson7142
    @adultadulturson71429 ай бұрын

    Love this change. It was really dumb how optimal building locations were completely unrelated to the physical location of inputs. There’s a reason why steel mills are typically built where the iron is and why industrial cities are usually near coal deposits.

  • @hitomisalazar4073
    @hitomisalazar40739 ай бұрын

    You know, it always brings a smile to my face when you start the campaign off saying that this is the country with the best people, the best countryside, and the best food.

  • @roderx99
    @roderx999 ай бұрын

    Narváez was a strong defendant of Isabel and fought against the Carlists to defend liberalism in Spain. He originally left the army when Fernando VII reigned due to his absolutism and came back when the Carlists wars started to defend Isabel who was the symbol of liberalism in Spain. Later, he led the Moderate party which, in Isabel's ''liberal'' Spain, meant to be the most conservative party as opposed to the progressive party who where still conservative but more liberal leaning. He ended up being president several times.

  • @realEpicGold
    @realEpicGold9 ай бұрын

    This was really helpful to me! Played a lot a few months ago, but haven't played in a while, and was really lost in the game. This helped and was really interesting too!

  • @shamneo23
    @shamneo238 ай бұрын

    what a good video! explained it so well and i actually understand all of it! looking forward to this patch!

  • @Jayako12
    @Jayako129 ай бұрын

    Great video, earned my like in the first ~20 seconds (no bias).

  • @vonunterberg4313

    @vonunterberg4313

    9 ай бұрын

    most nonbiased yt comment

  • @RubberToeYT
    @RubberToeYT9 ай бұрын

    Great video, you've converted me to playing with night as that looks fantastic

  • @ransofaraway
    @ransofaraway9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the video , I hope the new update will make the game more flavorable and unique for each nation , we need more Journeys and historical events !

  • @beepbop6542
    @beepbop65429 ай бұрын

    Another Vic 3 Roleplay! WE LOVE IT! Please keep them up :)

  • @badbuddha2359
    @badbuddha23599 ай бұрын

    Love seeing you playing vicky 3 again sir. Uhh i love you.. just wish they wouldbt have given up on imperator rome so quickly. The marius update rly felt like they found the direction they were going for.

  • @andrewgreenwood9068
    @andrewgreenwood90689 ай бұрын

    The added inefficiency majes the game way better. It was far too easy to build a ridiculous economy before.

  • @ellidominusser1138
    @ellidominusser11389 ай бұрын

    Omg the bavarian drops another video that didn't have a 2 week interval between it and the last one!

  • @torrent6181
    @torrent61819 ай бұрын

    Love to see a new Victoria 3 roleplay video

  • @Ragatokk
    @Ragatokk9 ай бұрын

    Haha, best people, best food best countryside. Some insane jokes right off the bat.

  • @HPL1908w
    @HPL1908w9 ай бұрын

    New Series Time ! Hell yea

  • @christopherscott1336
    @christopherscott13369 ай бұрын

    Looking stylish OPB!

  • @van1sh_parashok
    @van1sh_parashok9 ай бұрын

    1:22 certified Frank Sinatra reference

  • @yaitz3313
    @yaitz33139 ай бұрын

    Does increased transportation capability also reduce intra-market price differences?

  • @AwakenFromTheMatrix
    @AwakenFromTheMatrix8 ай бұрын

    Nice

  • @tomoliop
    @tomoliop9 ай бұрын

    The beta seemed way too jank when I jumped into it a month ago, but I'm really looking forward to playing with this once it hits the full game!

  • @vladprus4019
    @vladprus40199 ай бұрын

    At the beggining - wanting to pass slave trade A bit later - "let's build cotton plantation" ... oh no

  • @timteichmann6830
    @timteichmann68309 ай бұрын

    Ramón María Narváez was actually a liberal pro constitutionalist and on the side of queen Isabella

  • @ShadowDragon1848
    @ShadowDragon18489 ай бұрын

    I really, really love how many people wrote about Spanish history down in the comments! Besides that I like what OPB showed and explained. Local prices should at least in theory led to more historical centers of industrialization. Which is cool! Sure, you still can build a paper mill in the middle of nowhere to give jobs. BUT now it´s less profitable. I guess private construction also looks on local prices? It would be so cool if private investors also factor their ideologies into their decision where to invest. For example an Austrian aristocrat may not willing to invest into Slavic lands, even when it might be more profitable. BUT another aristocrat (who also dislikes Slavic people ) is a bit more pragmatic and still builds there. That could led to some aristocrats becoming more wealthy and therefore stronger politically and because they are more pragmatic they might support the intelligence. I know dreams, but let me!!! I do also hope that at some point we might see a stacking modifier or so for armies. It feels a bit weird when GB lands half a million man on a tiny port in China and has 100 percent supply and no problems moving such a huge armies around.

  • @Mandt6
    @Mandt69 ай бұрын

    Ahhhhhhh...Navarra - the Rainbow state.... - Generalist Gaming

  • @rbj3672
    @rbj36729 ай бұрын

    How did you change your subjects laws? Is that a mod?

  • @OneProudBavarian

    @OneProudBavarian

    9 ай бұрын

    It is a feature added in the 1.5 Open Beta! You can make your subjects initiate a law change!

  • @rbj3672

    @rbj3672

    9 ай бұрын

    @@OneProudBavarianthanks for replying! Love your videos man

  • @Scherzkeks1465
    @Scherzkeks14659 ай бұрын

    The most german looking Bavarian I ever saw

  • @arthurzwachte5537
    @arthurzwachte55379 ай бұрын

    I fells like the entire game was in a beta till now😅

  • @maxsilva11
    @maxsilva119 ай бұрын

    Isn't it a little bit strange that you're now incentivized to concentrate construction sectors far away from where the actual construction may be happening? Or is the local construction efficient bonus currently (or going to be) so high as to ever outweigh the expense of higher local prices further away from resource centers?

  • @emagutPT
    @emagutPT8 ай бұрын

    As a portuguese, you missed all the bullet points 10 seconds in

  • @ScreamingSturmovik
    @ScreamingSturmovik9 ай бұрын

    i both do and don't understand the concentration of industry, with only so much pops and infrastructure if you have the money why wouldn't you have multiple states producing?

  • @antonzlydenko6451
    @antonzlydenko64519 ай бұрын

    Saint-Chleninsburg

  • @andrewhawkins6754
    @andrewhawkins67549 ай бұрын

    I saw Stakui doing a very fun mod for HoI4. It involves Bavaria, so you should enjoy the cringe with the rest of us :D

  • @wotan8881
    @wotan88819 ай бұрын

    MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE

  • @dontlewdnezuko
    @dontlewdnezuko9 ай бұрын

    Once again I’m asking for greece

  • @scavenger6268
    @scavenger62689 ай бұрын

    The fact that you despise the rural folk, but like the religious group is kind of weird considering that they have a lot of synergy. Throw in the military with certain laws and you will literally have almost infinite manpower to fight wars with, build industry (ironically), and of course colonise around the world. (There is an event trigger to make the Rural like colonization) As for the bastion of aristocratic repression....honestly that is quite interesting. This means that i can actually roleplay Brazil during the "Cafe Com Leite" (Coffee & Milk) period when the two wealthiest states of plantation owners/ranchers basically owned all decision making in the country.

  • @blackgold2589
    @blackgold25899 ай бұрын

    Comment for algorithm

  • @joshuasims5421
    @joshuasims54219 ай бұрын

    One Proud Iberian?

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge20859 ай бұрын

    ✌️✌️

  • @awhr0350
    @awhr03509 ай бұрын

    My economy is stagnating af in 1.5.. never happened before, what’s changed so drastically?

  • @j1555
    @j15559 ай бұрын

    Greece play through please

  • @Mocarr98
    @Mocarr989 ай бұрын

    is Gibraltar still traty Port?

  • @cagedglobe2139
    @cagedglobe21399 ай бұрын

    Is there any point of having 4 generals over just one maxed out?

  • @maagicaa5405

    @maagicaa5405

    9 ай бұрын

    In the new Version the Nummer of battles per frontline depents on the number of generals

  • @cagedglobe2139

    @cagedglobe2139

    9 ай бұрын

    I don't think its number of battles per front line. you only get extra battles if the front is long enough and expand to another state. you can only get 1 battle per state. @@maagicaa5405

  • @andrewreynolds4949
    @andrewreynolds49499 ай бұрын

    I didn’t expect a Spain video, but then again nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

  • @ZeroTrips
    @ZeroTrips9 ай бұрын

    We'll have to agree to disagree on that first statement, bud.

  • @michawiktor9592
    @michawiktor95929 ай бұрын

    please convert most of folks to Polish culture in roleplay experience Bavarian! Servus, mach's gut!

  • @RonRonMcTavish
    @RonRonMcTavish9 ай бұрын

    #neverforgetGreece

  • @dillonlol7409
    @dillonlol74099 ай бұрын

    27:30 I can do this in 1.4

  • @user-vm1vf1zj6h
    @user-vm1vf1zj6h9 ай бұрын

    What grinds my gears is that mapi is just an arbitrary number not tied to anything at all, it's just the game says it should be X, so we are throwing X amount of cash along they way because numbers told us to

  • @Ragatokk
    @Ragatokk9 ай бұрын

    Shirt under sweater looks so goofy.

  • @PS-G1
    @PS-G19 ай бұрын

    pollution??? now they mixing cs with their other games too smh

  • @funnyboi6778
    @funnyboi67789 ай бұрын

    Is this game free?

  • @Rufoaxe
    @Rufoaxe9 ай бұрын

    The cultures distribution in Spain is so wrong and unhistorical.... where are the Galicians, Andalusians, Asturians, Aragones, Valencians, Castilians (North and South if you want to be specific). All of these, including the Basque and Catalan are Spanish cultures. It makes no sense to have them divided the way they currently are.

  • @Afri_Pandora_Archieve

    @Afri_Pandora_Archieve

    9 ай бұрын

    Los valencianos estan metidos dentro de los catalanes, hay gallegos, y los demas estan incluidados dentro de los españoles, a mi me parece que tiene sentido

  • @marchernandez4596

    @marchernandez4596

    9 ай бұрын

    Aragoneses o asturianos por ejemplo no tuvieron prácticamente ninguna reivindicación política que no fuera compartida por castellanos o andaluces en esa época. Aquí las culturas que aparecen son las capaces de generar movimientos nacionalistas por razones de diseño y jugabilidad. Los puros regionalismos aunque algo de influencia tuvieron a nivel cultural, poca influencia tuvieron a tan alto nivel político como las leyes del juego, que están hechas a grandes brochazos para simplificar y permitir una fácil comprensión sin necesidad de clases de historia a nivel universitario.

  • @512TheWolf512
    @512TheWolf5129 ай бұрын

    but slaves don't pay taxes, how can you be playing so inefficiently?

  • @bakonajm1136
    @bakonajm11369 ай бұрын

    please do a Kurdistan campaign

  • @Bora1333
    @Bora13339 ай бұрын

    The new system seems even more tedious/micro intensive. Who tf thinks this is fun? I guess they are going all in on excel lovers.

  • @Ruokos_Huba

    @Ruokos_Huba

    9 ай бұрын

    I mean if you played Victoria 2 you know it's basically an excel spreadsheet simulator that is somehow still fun

  • @vonunterberg4313

    @vonunterberg4313

    9 ай бұрын

    When you dont have a speck of autism then paradox is nothing for you. Thats why I love it :)

  • @longnoseboi

    @longnoseboi

    9 ай бұрын

    welcome to victoria

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