México did to Germany one of the biggest "seen" on history

@boaoftheboaians

4 жыл бұрын

binaway it’s basically getting “seenzoned”. That feel when you send a message to someone and that person just leaves you on “seen”.

@GarkKahn

4 жыл бұрын

It's when you send a message and the other person read it but doesn't bother to respond you

@abovedacloudz9315

4 жыл бұрын

Lmfaooooo😂

@hankmesker

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha you kill me man. That is why Germany didn't invite Mexico to the WWII party.

@dankestranch8738

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO 😂😭😂

Germany:" Hey, You wanna invade the US?" Mexico:" No manches wey "

@kerbo734

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@danethancoronaperez8216

3 жыл бұрын

Pa que o que?

@AndreasRSD

3 жыл бұрын

Stelios Kontos yeah, after the US invaded México.

@peckered4736

3 жыл бұрын

Stelios Kontos wait now i get it haha im dumb

@Bryan-bd5kc

3 жыл бұрын

@Stelios Kontos good yall started the invasions

Mexico: "I can't read German"

@big_dro1713

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure some of them can read German.

@JosiahJS976

3 жыл бұрын

Big_dro it’s a joke

@sammybeaver9130

3 жыл бұрын

They would have sent it in Morse code Yes I know it is a joke

@sammybeaver9130

3 жыл бұрын

@@n.m.8802 it is a language sort of

@sammybeaver9130

3 жыл бұрын

@@n.m.8802 true

Throwing Mexico under the bus but they weren't even a passenger.

@thelegalmexican9860

4 жыл бұрын

Giantspaz nice

@martinmarvinofsparta3656

4 жыл бұрын

The dragged us onto the bus and nearly threw us out the window

@someguyparagon5273

4 жыл бұрын

The scenario probably went like this Germany: *Join us* Mexico: *thinking about all the problems it has* Errrrrr yeah about tha- *USA breaks through wall* Mexico: *Points at Germany* They started it!!!

@reycesarcarino4653

3 жыл бұрын

@@someguyparagon5273 Why fight in a Pointless Was besides After Mexico defeated US troops at Carrizal and made Pershing depart to Europe. Mexico through it would be better to profit by selling oil to the murican's just like it had done to the Jerry's of Germany, thus making bank by profiting on both sides of the conflict

@someguyparagon5273

3 жыл бұрын

@@reycesarcarino4653 Yeah I know Mexico was going through their own trouble... Also gonna point out "seen".

Zimmerman Telegram: "Hey Mexico, you remember that war with America that you lost? Want to do that again?"

@theworldoverheavan560

4 жыл бұрын

@LUNAR BLOODDROP i can't understand you

@BlindingGlow

4 жыл бұрын

@LUNAR BLOODDROP Do you remember who Mexico's leader was at the time? You can stfu now.

@adbenkunkus

4 жыл бұрын

LUNAR BLOODDROP 20000 American soldiers attacked and defeated 13000 mexican men that were defending Mexico City, thus ending the war. I don’t know what you are talking about 🙄🙄🙄.

@filthyanimal874

4 жыл бұрын

Águila701 they’re too busy being jealous of each other and killing each other.

@abdelruiz1358

4 жыл бұрын

@@filthyanimal874 wow, how did you knew? :v

"Fighting a war with US would be easy, winning it would be impossible", love this. It proves the generals were totally aware of their army's chances, and so were absolutely unwilling to try.

@rautamiekka

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook Never heard that one, but he was totally right, he foresaw the future.

@rusdanibudiwicaksono1879

3 жыл бұрын

@rautamiekka the more correct phrase is something like: "We have awakened a sleeping giant and fill it with terrible resolve."

@rautamiekka

3 жыл бұрын

@@rusdanibudiwicaksono1879 Same shit diff package.

@rusdanibudiwicaksono1879

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nonamelol. Doesn't stop Paraguay about 100 years ago. Which was why probably Mexico decided _not_ to.

@shiroumxm2052

3 жыл бұрын

@@rusdanibudiwicaksono1879 Paaguay had no choice it was demolished by its "hermanos sudamericanos"

Well, as the Mexican I am, I can tell that was one of the scarce common sense decisions taken by the government in Mexican History.

@kingdoge69

3 жыл бұрын

@@Madikon07 he’s saying it was a common sense decision made by Mexico, because going to war with the US would be suicide, anyone could see it, what the hell are you reading?

@Madikon07

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingdoge69 scarce common sense

@sho3003

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingdoge69 Mexico's government throughout history has been quite possible one of the most stupid governments there have been By the simple fact that the biggest industralization period was from 1830 to 1910 you should know something has went wrong But AT LEAST Carranza was smart enough to notice that invading the US would be one of the worst ideas ever, if he was as stupid as most of the other presidents he would have accepted Germany's proposal

@henryjw15

3 жыл бұрын

Sho it made no sense why Germany would send that. The US supported Carranza over villa, which led to villa raiding the borderland.

@sho3003

3 жыл бұрын

@@henryjw15 Carranza's father was from Coahuila y Texas (both were a single state), he saw his state lose more than half the territory and transmited his hate towards the US to Carranza

Because the Mexicans were smarter than the Ottomans; they declined to join a war that they could only lose.

@kuax27

4 жыл бұрын

Well ottomans were still gonna collapse at some time in 20th century and i think it was worth a shot to do some sort of gambling at that time cause the options were basically: Dont join and collapse in Max 20 years Join (lose) and collapse in 4 years Join (win) gain some land and collapse at some time in 20th century probably in 1940s or 50s

@jacobp.4593

4 жыл бұрын

A main issue with the Ottoman's joining the war was the fucking 'Young Turks' deciding to fuck with the allies with absolutely no sanction from the goverment.

@kuax27

4 жыл бұрын

@Papaya Tasty actually it was kind of because of poor leadership and not taking the wind of industrilazition or renaissence But yeah there were also some european agents too but we made a lot of mistakes

@kuax27

4 жыл бұрын

@Papaya Tasty but you can say this to the arabian rebels that lived in our empire at ww1

@BigslattYSL

4 жыл бұрын

Ottomans only joined so they could try to revive their pretty much dying empire, it was pretty much a YOLO decision and they hardly knew what they got in to. Also don't forget about those Arabian rebels that got brainwashed by Europe to go against their caliphate.

President of Mexico: What if we wage war on USA? Generals: Depends on the context. Fighting, good. Winning, no.

@ericktellez7632

3 жыл бұрын

“Leader of mexico” bruh we got a president, we are not a tribe, not since the 1400s i guess.

@Nonamelol.

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericktellez7632 Mexico had Leaders, Kings, Presidents and Dictators

@G3n10s1TY

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nonamelol. *Had*

@G3n10s1TY

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericktellez7632 A tribe🤣

@Nonamelol.

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bryan-bd5kc And?

If Mexico ever fought another country with the same dedication that it does when it fights with itself, they would be a formidable opponent.

@Elitecommando501

3 жыл бұрын

Mexicans don't have enemies that's why they fight themselves. If we had a common enemy i'm pretty sure the whole country would unite and kick ass

@Bryan-bd5kc

3 жыл бұрын

@@Elitecommando501 US most Mexicans are anti american especially in the early 1900s invasion of the us and it still licking its wounds from the 1800s

@crazedvole

3 жыл бұрын

Is there a saying about fighting more passionately with your "family" than anyone else?

@cardenassolisrodrigo2601

3 жыл бұрын

@@Elitecommando501 Mexicans dont have enemies but they're enemies of themselves. That's why there is a popular sentence here in Mexico which says "The worst enemy of a mexican, is another mexican".

@shiroumxm2052

3 жыл бұрын

what do you mean fight ourselves¿¿ we had a civil war yeah looong ago.. you had one even worse! this narco thing you know well it´s not even close to a civil war. saying that is just BS. the country is not divided by any ideologý.. well not yet .. let´s hope this stupid president AMLO stop trying it

Can you imagine being the employee in London who was just doing their typical telegram work and out of nowhere you see the country you’re at war with trying to send a message to Mexico

@YorkusPorkus757

2 жыл бұрын

Well it was obviously coded and not just flat out “To Mexico Attack them lol Love, Germany”

@grandduchyofwales

2 жыл бұрын

@@YorkusPorkus757 lmao

@angelwhispers2060

2 жыл бұрын

Either the biggest ocean moment in history or the biggest I'm about to be famous moment in that person's life

@theperfectspecimen2697

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelwhispers2060 sadly the guy who decoded it didn't do so well in the end and committed suicide due to the poor treatment he got despite being a hero.

@auctor9165

2 жыл бұрын

@@theperfectspecimen2697 Did you just confuse him for Alan Turing?

It would've been called "World War Juan."

@northchurch753

4 жыл бұрын

Clever

@jw9737

4 жыл бұрын

Well done

@Donjuanantoine

4 жыл бұрын

Muy bien.

@youpretty5343

4 жыл бұрын

hahhahahah omg

@D00MMAST3R

4 жыл бұрын

I make this joke all the time since my friend's brother's name is Juan.

Germany to Mexico: Some of you may die, but it is a sacrifice I am willing to make Mexico: "seen"

@geralddavis2869

4 жыл бұрын

Excellent Shrek reference

@JD-Media

4 жыл бұрын

It's probably pretty accurate to how many of the European leaders thought at the time.

@el_champion235x4

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah man nice Shrek 1 Reference I love that movie

@I_THE_I

4 жыл бұрын

69

@Dlejtman

4 жыл бұрын

Austin Worthington that’s the correct interpretation of it. We Mexicans wouldn’t enter into a war with the US due to the Mexican Revolution going on at the time, our exports and geographic location were (and still are) a strategic geographic position and Economic powerhouse for the US until today with the current populist and incompetent we have as a president, it’s impossible to determine what his idiocy will lead to...🥺

Germany: *Sends Zimmerman Telegram to Mexico* USA: *opens coffin* "Okay, get in."

@GiraffeFeatures

4 жыл бұрын

lol acting as if the US made any difference at all.

@A_annoying_rodent

4 жыл бұрын

*27 years later* USSR and USA: Okay, NOW get in.....he won't bounce back from that one. *10 years later they bounced back straight towards europes top economy*

@MCL003

4 жыл бұрын

Interim I’m not American but they did that was like a large reason when the Germans did their final offensive in the west before the us troops would arrive

@someoneonearth1617

4 жыл бұрын

Interim It did, the entente would have lost.

@persimmon93

4 жыл бұрын

@@GiraffeFeatures If it wasn't for the US, Germany would have beaten UK and France with its hands tied behind its back and both eyes closed.

Why didn't Germany just DM Mexico? Would of been much easier.

@epinephrinesoftware9309

4 жыл бұрын

Funny

@h3ctor272

4 жыл бұрын

A quick Whatsapp message would have done the job

@KeysAndDoorss

4 жыл бұрын

The_red_ barron because they can’t dm because they’re grounded by their mom

@xio6401

4 жыл бұрын

Cute

@egyptianboi305

4 жыл бұрын

I really want to r/woooosh someone here

I think this is one of the most ridiculous moments in history. Even I laugh (im mexican) because it was simply impossible to attack the US while in civil war (Mexico was divided into three groups by then, North, Central, and South with Villa, Carranza and Zapata as their leaders respectively)

@desertsand8778

4 жыл бұрын

Mexico couldn't win a war against the US even if they didn't have a civil war

@julianmartinez7127

4 жыл бұрын

@@desertsand8778 You are right, that is why this is even funnier

@PrezVeto

4 жыл бұрын

The Germans may have thought the prospect of reconquest could re-unify the three for long enough.

@jtm726

4 жыл бұрын

Mexico is weaker than the U.S,Canada,Brazil but it can threaten and win wars against Nicaragua,Honduras,El Salvador,Chile,Guatemala,Coasta Rica and many other south American nations since their military is weaker than Mexico.

@tommythehospitalfish5572

4 жыл бұрын

Grover Germany didn’t care about Mexico they just wanted Mexico to keep America away from them for a while longer They knew America would easily crush them but a few more months could’ve helped Germany a lot in the longer run But Mexico also knew that was Germany’s plan

Funny to think that German could sneak a message by Britain when the British having a monopoly on the telegraph line

@Mustafa-to9si

4 жыл бұрын

Also the telegram should pass through US mainland isn't it Mexico,US,Britain: oh damn, he must desesperate

@user-xb9yv2ci4c

4 жыл бұрын

They had encrypted it pretty well. But some of the codes were leaked before.

@santamaria7733

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, sometimes I doubt its authenticity. It's a possible Cassus Belli fabricated by the U.S. to enter WW1

@aaronmarks9366

4 жыл бұрын

@@santamaria7733 That's what I thought too, but apparently Arthur Zimmerman did admit it was genuine.

@tinyman1144

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, since Zimmerman admitted to it's legitimacy, I don't think the germans were trying to sneak it at all. Something about honor in diplomacy, probably, which is indeed important

You should do a 10-minute on the Mexican Revolution

@saw7191

4 жыл бұрын

FlaviusBelisarius yes!

@deadpoolcomics

4 жыл бұрын

YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!YES!

@deadpoolcomics

4 жыл бұрын

SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!SI!

@allanjbucknol4414

4 жыл бұрын

True not many know about that

@carlosposadas7080

4 жыл бұрын

YES plz

One more thing that the video failed to address was that Mexico’s main arms and munitions provider was... the US. Mexico was not about to make a large arms purchase and make the US suspicious... Mexico could have also bought weapons from Argentina, but again such a large purchase that a war would require would immediately be known to the US and triggered a red alert.

@MrNobodycares100

2 жыл бұрын

I mean mexico had a couple gun makers but they died out 😥 😔

@Nonamelol.

2 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily, considering Mexico was in a civil war.

@thunderbird1921

Жыл бұрын

Speaking of arms sales, wasn't Mexico filled up with weapons by the US during the Cold War? I could be mistaken, but I thought they wanted the Mexicans to be a powerful enough neighbor to intervene in the Central America region, should Communist influence get too powerful.

@Orion-yd4dy

Жыл бұрын

@@thunderbird1921 Sure… but that was decades later in the future. Communism as a menace for the U.S. would not exist up until well after WWI.

@ladymacbethofmtensk896

Жыл бұрын

Germany: Let's try this. Woodrow Wilson: YAY! IT'S WAR TIME!!!

Germany: Mexico, we know you are currently fighting a bloody civil war, the country is completely divided, and your army has their hands full, but could you please attack the U.S, we know you lost that last war, but second time is the charm, right? Pretty please?

@tx6723

3 жыл бұрын

Mexico: ok

@lexezlao

2 жыл бұрын

Mexico: ✔️✔️

@vincenzochianese9378

2 жыл бұрын

Mexico: last online 30 years ago

@kv-2537

2 жыл бұрын

In my universe Mexico won against the us

@EndOfSmallSanctuary97

2 жыл бұрын

@@kv-2537 That's a ridiculous universe

🇩🇪: *sends the letter to mexico* 🇬🇧: ....wait. That’s illegal.

@martinmarvinofsparta3656

4 жыл бұрын

🇲🇽: Si

@everettlethem6747

3 жыл бұрын

🇺🇸: *inhales* ... REEEEEEEEEEE

@romare8763

3 жыл бұрын

🇪🇸: *always knew this would happen*

@sharo6471

3 жыл бұрын

Fun Fact: it happened a second time. In WW2

@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan

3 жыл бұрын

Should've use NordVPN

Mexico: Oh dang, they must have been desperate :/

@rotemplatino91

4 жыл бұрын

You made me laugh a lot 😂

@user-uh8zo6qn1e

4 жыл бұрын

XD no idea animation

@thelegalmexican9860

4 жыл бұрын

H T Awesome if they want some dozens of Mexicans on horses to be on their side, they were ULTRA desperates

@TrenElZombie

4 жыл бұрын

XD Americant

@xXFlameHaze92Xx

4 жыл бұрын

Mexico: ¡Verga! si que están desesperados.

Germany: Hey bro, attack the U.S. and we'll support you Mexico: Nooooooo nimeeeeergaaaa

@Pinchelalofuckers

4 жыл бұрын

It's awesome being trilingual bro! you get to understand this

@playerxz6485

4 жыл бұрын

@@Pinchelalofuckers u mean bilingual :v

@Pinchelalofuckers

4 жыл бұрын

@@playerxz6485 nah it's Spanish English and meme language

@yougothere6000

4 жыл бұрын

*attack the USA in case the USS attacks us (Germany). Also it was a one-man-operation of the ambassador of Germany to the USA, without the German government knowing or aporoving of it, from what I know.

@spicyleaves8876

4 жыл бұрын

YouGo There that’s how most diplomacy worked at the time ambassadors would do everything like declare war do blockade without he governments approval

So basically, Mexico was in a position similar to Italy, but unlike Potatolinni, they were atleast smart enough to realize they were realistically over their heads joining a war between military superpowers and decided to mind their own business.

@RazAr-

2 жыл бұрын

mind their own civil war*

@girlgarde

2 жыл бұрын

I don't blame them to be honest. Mexico was in no shape to fight the Americans whatsoever plus the Germans wouldn't have been able to help them out. It was quite wise of the Mexican government not to fight the Americans and lose even MORE territory to the U.S.

@reapvkz1

2 жыл бұрын

@@girlgarde Yup. I'm sure that the hate for the US in Mexico back then could have played a big role into joining. But we were in the middle of a huge civil war that costed 10 millions deaths if I recall. So yeah, it was smart not to join.

@alessandrocerioli2151

2 жыл бұрын

Italy fought and won WWI.

@GilmerJohn

Жыл бұрын

@@alessandrocerioli2151 -- It was on the winning side but it's military didn't do well again Austria. That might have had something to do with Italy becoming a Axis power: if you can't lick them, join them.

Essentially the American Football equivalent of throwing a Hail Mary pass only to have it intercepted and ran for a touchdown.

@Donnyel

4 жыл бұрын

Or the roblox equivalent of an oof

@johncoyle8551

4 жыл бұрын

or just the 2013 Iron Bowl...

@terrypennington2519

3 жыл бұрын

@@johncoyle8551 WAR DAMN EAGLE BABY Damn what a day that was

@Rockhound6165

3 жыл бұрын

Actually a better analogy would be the QB getting sacked.

@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan

3 жыл бұрын

A hail mary pass to an injured player on the bench

I’m surprised Carranza even entertained the idea long enough to ask the generals. The problems are pretty obvious.

@AngelSilasTV

4 жыл бұрын

LotharTheFellhanded You always call in the generals, especially when you’re not a military man yourself. Only a fool makes uninformed decisions regarding something they don’t know about.

@Brian-----

4 жыл бұрын

He had to, to cover himself politically. Carranza was well aware of the answer before he asked, but when your nation is undergoing a series of insurgencies tantamount to a civil war, you don't want to offend your generals by pretending you don't need them.

@pottertheavenger1363

2 жыл бұрын

The olde Civ 5 tactic: give me 10 turns to prepare.

@humanperson3365

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@Delgen1951

Жыл бұрын

@@AngelSilasTV like willhelm ii?

Why did Zimmerman PUBLICLY admit to it being real? How could that possibly do anything other than make it worse?

@JC-hp7pc

2 жыл бұрын

Not saying it makes sense to authenticate it, but if you believe America is isolationist nation who will just sit it out because they are afraid of getting drawn into the war, then the bigger concern becomes Mexico not believing the telegram because they think it was a British psyops mission. Either way, the Germans had to deal with American supplies on the battlefield, and the main objective was to divert US industrial capacity into a war with Mexico. Obviously the first premise turned out to be incorrect, and the Mexicans were too smart to take the bait.

@sud1881

Жыл бұрын

I guess it was a attempt to bluff the US out of the war.

@BaconLover100

4 ай бұрын

He wanted to confirm it to Mexico I assume?

Mexico: We're kind of in the middle of a civil war here.

@xXFlameHaze92Xx

3 жыл бұрын

we STILL kind of in the middle of a civil war here.

@jasondyrkacz8270

2 жыл бұрын

Germany: So you'll do it then?

@oso6626

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasondyrkacz8270 *seen*

What on Earth possessed Arthur Zimmerman to actually *admit* to sending the telegram??

@erraticonteuse

4 жыл бұрын

Probably because the US had stayed neutral even after Americans had actually been killed by Germany (i.e. the Lusitania) so he probably figured we wouldn't join if he admitted to a simple telegram. Of course, he *sent* the telegram in hopes of preventing us from joining the war that we had not previously evinced any substantial desire to join, so who the hell knows what he was thinking?

@baigandinel7956

3 жыл бұрын

Had nobody invented blaming the Russians yet.

@matthewbilich6175

2 жыл бұрын

Pride

@charmyzard

2 жыл бұрын

Forcing the US to "think twice" before joining that Entente. Germany in general thought simple intimidation bluffs would work to keep them out.

@Buto.7103

2 жыл бұрын

It’s because it was all a plan of Britain and America to Join the war against Germany, that’s easy

You earned a like for the Star Wars reference

@rachelkatepanter3914

4 жыл бұрын

SJOlson O, i notice that as well😂👍

@crazedvole

4 жыл бұрын

"I have the high ground Mexico, don't try it"

@ayodejiolowokere1076

4 жыл бұрын

Personally, I think the US underestimated Mexico's power

@_NeoImperia_

4 жыл бұрын

@@ayodejiolowokere1076 hahahahahahahahhahahahahah no (Seriously)

@theworldoverheavan560

4 жыл бұрын

@@ayodejiolowokere1076 lol nice joke

Did not watch the video, but my knowledge of Mexican history tells me it should go something like this: "Bruh we are in the middle of a massive Revolution."

@TrenElZombie

4 жыл бұрын

With american backed militar y dictators, "socialist" petty burgueosie and lets not forget how you killed the nflores magon. We forgive you murica, but we wont forget

@jasondyrkacz8270

2 жыл бұрын

Mexico: Even at full strength, they would still punish us severely.

@Haloguy3959

Жыл бұрын

@@TrenElZombie Well you guys are one of only two neighbors, so we just want to keep an eye on you. Its just politics don't take it personally

@talete7712

Жыл бұрын

@@Haloguy3959 it's very much wrong and evil, I wouldn't be so happy and light hearted about it

@Haloguy3959

Жыл бұрын

@@talete7712 ?

Germany: *Sends the Zimmerman Telegram to Mexico* USA: So you have chosen death.

@aliceakosota797

4 жыл бұрын

@Las Armas y Fatman yeah Germany is always softened up before u.s joins

@yougothere6000

4 жыл бұрын

Such an idiotic comment. Cringe.

@yougothere6000

4 жыл бұрын

@Las Armas y Fatman German immigrants also made the USA a strong and powerful country in the first place and started the anti-slavery movement in the USA (in 1688 in Germantown, Pennsilvanya).

@ehs1452

4 жыл бұрын

Wrong.

@spicyleaves8876

4 жыл бұрын

EWS 134 it’s not wrong before the war started the US had less troops than Bulgaria

Last time I was this early, California and Texas were still part of Mexico.

@brandonlyon730

4 жыл бұрын

I checked earlier and last time Spain own California and Texas.

@halloween7275

4 жыл бұрын

@@brandonlyon730 I checked even earlier and Columbus landed in america

@rexhunt4695

4 жыл бұрын

When I check Native Americans owned the property and Columbus was no where around..

@AztecResistance

4 жыл бұрын

I checked even earlier and the Clovis were crossing the Bering strait.

@SirFaceFone

4 жыл бұрын

I checked earlier than early and the ice sheet still hasn't melted in North America

German Imperial Government: "Let's sneak a telegram across the ocean to war torn Mexico for them to accept our help in attacking the United States (even though we can't send much more than advisers) and hope the British who have a monopoly on the telegram communications don't intercept it first even though it would most assuredly go through London before crossing the Atlantic" Me: "Not a great plan"

@gameoflife9576

4 жыл бұрын

Tony Stark has joined the chat.

@Wter-oy1dh

4 жыл бұрын

“Let me Also admit that the telegram was real, because that way they DEFINITELY won’t think we’re trying to stop America at all”

@seneca983

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair the telegram was encrypted and it wasn't obvious that the British could decrypt it.

@Ethredge27

4 жыл бұрын

The Germans were all like “Ich will nur Tacos”

@jonathanraithel5726

4 жыл бұрын

It was better then Wilhelm’s plans to invade the US in the late 1800s. Concerned that the US would hamper Germany’s global influence, the Kaiser wanted to invade the US by landing troops on Long Island or in Boston, occupying New York, and marching to Washington to shell the capital. It was a brilliant plan, considering Germany didn’t have a navy capable of any of this.

Germany: “Mexico, beat up America” Mexico with a black eye: “Uhh yeah, no”

@sumdude9836

3 жыл бұрын

It's like asking someone with recent stab wounds to go fight a professional boxer There was just no way to win without falling apart because of the civil wars

@omniscientcammaleon9477

3 жыл бұрын

"Hey mexico remember losing 50% of your territory?" "Yeah" "Wanna do it again?"

@vincentmontgomery9770

3 жыл бұрын

@@omniscientcammaleon9477 Mexico 🇲🇽 actually sold it if there were to ever be a war now u.s would loose

@Nonamelol.

3 жыл бұрын

@@omniscientcammaleon9477 just like usa lost to vietnamese farmers?

@thewordoflynx8095

3 жыл бұрын

@@vincentmontgomery9770 Keep dreaming lmao, Mexico is still far behind the US in every way that matters

Literally no one in Mexico: Germany: Hey wanna take some land? America: Don’t try it

@thunderbird1921

3 жыл бұрын

What's funny is that if Germany had not done this, America may not have joined World War I. In addition to the isolationist foreign policy, many Americans still regarded the British with deep distrust (heck, the War Dept drew up potential war plans against them as late as the 1920s). The "Special Relationship" is a much newer development than many people think.

@CarlosRivera-cg4cs

Жыл бұрын

we didnt need it too, texas is literally México by now

We knew it was BS, although we liked Germany a lot during that period. Hello from México

@moritz7613

4 жыл бұрын

be ready if we rise again ;D much love from germany

@sandrojones8068

4 жыл бұрын

@@moritz7613 Always ready, Italia!

@Only.D.G.

4 жыл бұрын

@@moritz7613 yeah, even the germans supported Vasconcelos and other mexican guys during and before WWII

@moritz7613

4 жыл бұрын

@@sandrojones8068 just do it better this time :P i mean u already handle those "refugees" really well :D

@sandrojones8068

4 жыл бұрын

@@moritz7613 Better than Merkle is trying to kill Germany. but a bad government is now in charge of Italy, i want Salvini!

The star wars reference with the "don't try it" sign, almost took me out LMAOOOOOOOO... I was already laughing at "uno" "dos" etc... Hahahahahahahahaaa

"He wasn't suicidal" the reason why invading one of a dozen nation's on Earth is a horrible idea.

@yougothere6000

4 жыл бұрын

The German Empire invaded 2 countries in total in ww1 (Belgium and France).

@minecraftia7626

4 жыл бұрын

@@yougothere6000 Russia

@spicyleaves8876

4 жыл бұрын

YouGo There and Greece and Serbia (and little Montenegro)

@mikeg2306

Жыл бұрын

He wasn’t suicidal but was inadvertently killed when the town he was sleeping in was shelled.

This might be one of the most interesting videos on this channel yet. In high school school, I remember asking this and all I got was "They didn't join, lets move on". Very interesting to finally hear Mexico's reasons for not joining.

I loved how the Mexican government argued this. 1: We need war support from the ABC countries. We won't have that, they will most likely support the US. 2: We will need an army to funnel in the United States which we lack numbers. 3: Even if we win, we need to occupy and control Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas which will actively rebel and the world except Germany won't agree to the Annex. 4: We lack a navy. Response to Germany: Yeah that's gonna be a no from me dog.

@TimmyTheTinman

2 жыл бұрын

I take it since you’re talking in the first person you’re from Mexico. and very solid points

American History in three words... "Damn it Europe!!"

@bielaparisiu8755

3 жыл бұрын

More like "Let's invade the middle east, overthrow countless democratically elected governments and kill milions of civilians"

@justinmcclung6030

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah name one that was democratically elected, dumbass.. I don't think you know what war is, but people typically get killed in them..

@jokecorn9993

3 жыл бұрын

@@bielaparisiu8755 Sure. Sure. Name one of those governments.

@ErikPT

3 жыл бұрын

@@bielaparisiu8755 “democratically elected.”

"It's over Mexico, I have the high ground!"

@Crusader-7382

4 жыл бұрын

Alexander Backert which one there are many Mexicos

@gorrocruz9248

4 жыл бұрын

Many mexicos? You work for Fox News or something ?

@CoffeeSnep

4 жыл бұрын

"You underestimate my power, ese!"

@MrBassmann15

4 жыл бұрын

@@CoffeeSnep "Don't try it mi amigo."

@gorrocruz9248

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao so Central and South america is mexico ok donald Trump.

1:42 German's advice to the Mexicans were to "be better" had me dying !!!

@KDH-br6hy

3 жыл бұрын

Lol🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Apeksim

2 жыл бұрын

Git gud

I'm hugely disappointed that you didn't draw Carranza's glasses, he was blind without them in real life. YOU HAVE BETRAYED ME AND ALL OF MEXICO!!! p.s: that Mexican revolution video sounds like a great idea

@Chocolatnave123

3 жыл бұрын

fuck mexico, its such an irrelevant country

@deadpoolcomics

3 жыл бұрын

@@Chocolatnave123 Yeah you’re right, glory be to whichever nation you come from which I’m sure is very relevant

@intelligiblemadman

3 жыл бұрын

@@Chocolatnave123 Well I don't know why you would dislike a country just because it's not relevant but ok

@soupfan1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Chocolatnave123 you prob. Live in Liechtenstein mr. "Important"

@shiroumxm2052

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chocolatnave123 chocolate was invented by ancient mexicans and now 11,000 years later you picked that nick name among trillions.. jajaj accept that is kind of funny pinche pendejo

Yo, three things. 1. Love the fact that you numbered in Spanish. 2. Love the Star Wars reference. 3. quality video man

Like we say in México: Es un sueño guajiro. It means, an imposible dream that we like to thing about.

@TrenElZombie

4 жыл бұрын

Better words arent posible

@cesarst3720

3 жыл бұрын

@@Account-jn7xu Hey, i like the idea

School: 10% KZread: 90% Like if your Mexican I know I am :)

I would love to see a video on the Paraguayan war Wars in the american continent, especially south america are rarely discussed

@flaviusbelisarius7791

4 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see that. The war of the triple alliance (what it’s generally called in the US) is a very interesting war.

@ShinigamiInuyasha777

4 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, a war so brutal, long, cynical and pointless that makes looks WW1 as a rollercoaster. Also MEMES lots of dark humor memes....!!!

@ShinigamiInuyasha777

4 жыл бұрын

@@Samer-lx5sz If you take in account that none of the countries but Brazil had over 1 millon people, you'll think differently

@ShinigamiInuyasha777

4 жыл бұрын

@@Samer-lx5sz The TaiPing rebellion was bloodier than WW1 and had no impact, is not body count that tells brutal

@LuckyBird551

4 жыл бұрын

How about the Peru-Ecuador war that took place in 1941, DURING World War 2, but didn't involve any of the countries involved during World War 2?

You should do a video on the franco-mexican war

@maxcano2063

4 жыл бұрын

The two ones \ :v /

@1020Lester

4 жыл бұрын

@@maxcano2063 The one we won, preferably.

@ernestojr.valenzuela4062

4 жыл бұрын

The pastry war or the second intervention?

@adbenkunkus

4 жыл бұрын

ERNESTO JR. VALENZUELA The one that matters, the second.

@ernestojr.valenzuela4062

4 жыл бұрын

adbenkunkus Yeah the pastry war was more an embargo than an actual war.

USA : chillin *Germany says some mean words* USA: you just lost your land privileges

@corrat4866

3 жыл бұрын

Sauerkraut? More like LIBERTY CABBAGE

@Nonamelol.

3 жыл бұрын

Vietnamese farmers: Germany need help on destroying the usa?

@beesechurger7799

3 жыл бұрын

hamburger? More like LIBERTY BURGER @@corrat4866

@sontalks

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nonamelol. my anti-american detector is off the charts!

@Nonamelol.

2 жыл бұрын

@@sontalks why are you crying?

2:19 “It’s over Mexico I have the high ground”

@apreciadordobrasil4932

4 жыл бұрын

Subestimas mi poder!

@engineergaming4788

6 ай бұрын

Don't try it

Thanks for this video. I've always wondered what Mexico actually thought about the message as history tend to just say that the message happened and that it got the US to join the war, leaving out Mexico entirely

Interestingly the Zimmerman telegram also asked Japan to change sides.

@ericktellez7632

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, and one of the promises the germans made to japan was to give California to them once they defeated the US. In WWll they had the same plan instead Japan would take not only California but also Baja California as well and make it into a Japan protectorate.

@Seriona1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericktellez7632 Gonna call bullshit on this. Japan had zero interesting in invading the United States. They admitted this, the US government even admitted they knew that too. The most likely Japan annexation of US territory if they could pull it off was to take Hawaii and even the Japanese doubted that. The entire point of Japan raging a war against the US was fear that the US navy while neutral would disrupt Japanese shipping lanes near US colonies and that Japan was hoping for a quick win over the US navy to force the US to agree to a cease fire on Japanese terms so they could continue to fight in Asia. The Japanese Army was built to fight USSR, the Japanese Navy was built to fight UK. Japan's entire war goals in WWII was what was in the west, never the east.

@ericktellez7632

2 жыл бұрын

@@Seriona1 I call bs on your bs, Japan offered several times to buy Baja from Mexico, in a case of a defeated US why would they stop at Baja and not annex all of California, you need to not let your weabo anime nerdy shit not get in the way of realizing Japan was a conquering nation looking for colonies.

@Seriona1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericktellez7632 No. The Japanese had zero interest in annexing anything in the US. I know research is hard for you and you can't read English. They did not have the ability to command or control anything inside the 48. Asia was always the intended target.

@kedarunzi9139

2 жыл бұрын

Guys, insulting each other will not help your case

Germany: Invade the US? UK: yo Germany: shit wrong chat

Also, the entire population of Mexico in those days was only 15 million, compared to 92 million for the USA. American troops would literally have outnumbered Mexico by six to one. It would have been like if Belgium launched an attack on Germany.

One of these questions that needs to be answered!

Excellent video! I really like how you cover more obscure aspects of history.

I have wondered this for so long! Thank you for making this video!

Thank you. I have long wondered this and never found any good analysis until now

Fun fact no should be your catchphrase

Man, I love this channel! I love that you always choose topics that aren't talked about as much

Interesting to know Mexico at least looked into it. And that they knew Germany was probably only seeing Mexico as a delay to sending troops to Germany.

You forgot to draw Carranza’s glasses! Plus his beard was a lot longer he had the most epic of facial hair of all modern Mexican Presidents!

You raise the very interesting questions I would like answers to. Props to you

@history matters, i gotta say you are getting incredibly skilled at both recounting history and doing it in a very entertaining way. your very subtle humor is great at making your videos very enjoyable while at the same time not ruining what it is you are trying to say

This is an excellent series , thank you for posting !

This has to be one of the best channels on KZread. Thank you.

México be like, join your war? I'm already having a war with my self!!

If Mexico decided to actually try something.... USA: What's that? Mexico wants a war? That's fine. Our flag has some space for some more stars...

Germans: can you invade the US por favor? Mexico: nah ese your on your own homes

@bananoinsano99

4 жыл бұрын

ese?

@ramirochavez3332

4 жыл бұрын

@@bananoinsano99ese = Holmes = slang word for bud, friend basically a word to call someone

@bananoinsano99

4 жыл бұрын

I am Mexican and I have not heard about "ese"

@kxtyusha

4 жыл бұрын

Ramiro Chavez That’s more Chicano slang... Not Mexican... Güey would be more appropriate.

@emmanuelake421

3 жыл бұрын

The "one" is only used by Chicanos (Mexican-Americans)

It would have been a nice touch to add that this event allowed Carranza to consolidate himself by using his neutrality in WW1 as a bargaining chip with the US.

2:19 is that a Star Wars Reference?

@OdotJdot

4 жыл бұрын

Yup

@spyrojyro7202

4 жыл бұрын

ITS OVER MEXICO! I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND!

@obitwokenobi9808

4 жыл бұрын

No, it's an Avengers reference.

@CuriousBiscuit

4 жыл бұрын

You under estimate his power.

@iamaheretic7829

4 жыл бұрын

yup

Didn't we already have troops in Mexico chasing Pancho Villia? He did attack a city in new Mexico.

@TrenElZombie

4 жыл бұрын

And then get wrecked by teachers, kids and the carrizal battle

@jesusramirezromo2037

4 жыл бұрын

They where atacked and droved back into the US Wilson never declared war on mexico to retaliate after that

@alanpennie8013

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Pershing's Posse.

1:29 always makes me laugh 🤣

I’m glad these leaders had common sense and actually saw a war would be meaningless and bring more bloodshed to a country that was already going through hard times

If this was Civ, Germany would be asking the Mexicans to declare war on America, in exchange for 2 GPT and 1 iron for 30 turns

Fun fact: Mexico was in the middle of a Revolution and many German officers played important roles in every faction of the war. Including the; Obregonistas, Villistas, Maderistas, and Carranzistas factions. People tend to forget how renowned the German military was at the time. It is was also reported through the newspaper of the time that German officers participated in Villas attack in Columbus New Mexico

2:18, was not expecting that at all. I absolutely love it.

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

Britain didn't immediately inform the US. In fact they waited over a month for 2 reasons. 1. They didn't want to inform the Germans they had cracked their codes. 2. The British didn't want to tell the US they were intercepting US transmissions as well. (Germany was using Swedish and American cables to transmit the message)

"Go on..." as he slowly leans in had me giggling.

Mate, it's so fucking awesome the way you explane complex historic shit so simply

This I wanted to know! Thanks! I subbed

0:46 This image still sums up US-Mexico relations to this day

🇲🇽 we still love you Germany 🇩🇪

I loved your "I have the high ground" reference :)

BRO the segments that have the person go into the other person have me busting every time: "GO ONNNN"

The only thing I would add is that the Mexicans were only asked to declare war if the US declared on Germany, so it was literally a case of "keep them busy so we can win over here".

@jasondyrkacz8270

2 жыл бұрын

Mexico: Like that would've worked. The citizens have guns too.

Why does everyone forget Japan being mentioned in the telegram

@khanhnguyen-tt3ff

4 жыл бұрын

well i considering at the time japan is still an allies to the us and they still fighting the russia

This is one of his best episodes ever.

I'd love a video on the Mexican Revolution because I've seen several westerns set in this time period but we learned very little about it in history class.

Mexico was simply in no condition to start a war with the United States. They were kind of in the middle of a civil war that had already been going on for like 7 years, and would continue to go on until 1924. By the time of the Zimmerman Telegram, a lot of Mexicans were already dead, and their military was stretched way too thin as it was. And even if there hadn't been a civil war going on, Mexico successfully invading the United States to regain Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico would've been a long shot.

Prequel memes in a history video *Now this is where the fun begins*

Facinating as always

Fantastic video and incredibly funny

If you want to know more about the Mexican revolution, I highly recommend the Revolutions podcast. They did a series that covers it very well

2:18 I have the Highground you underestimate my power don’t try it

Thank you.👍

I've always wondered what would have happened if the US just said "naw, this is your mess, you fix it." I can't really imagine the results being much different.

@nephite467

Жыл бұрын

France would have fallen then bc a stalemate