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@yootoo567

Жыл бұрын

I noticed you were just a tad quiet during that fog session when the box was breathing it in, or rather choking, LOL.. the air isn't flowing right, design issue Big D ,you remained professional during that moment,👍. Keep the brutal & Honest vids coming. By the way, got 4 of the L7X 12s in the garage, bought 2 and financed 2, didn't want to part ways with a little over 3 grand all at once. As long as you take advantage of the 100 day buyout, no interest will incur

@Brittvanegas

Жыл бұрын

I tried to tell yall but you didn't listen.

@Brittvanegas

Жыл бұрын

That's why it took so long to come out. They had to make alot of recones before they could put the sub on the market. Those subs are paper weights

@RyanBassForLife

Жыл бұрын

All I can say is the Kicker Solo X has a rock solid voice coil but the need to start using more glue on the spider landing and coil to spider connection.

@sharonnicholson3393

Жыл бұрын

Damn I didn't think that would be sacrilegious to upgrade holes.. But I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it😂 I would have done the same

It seems that Bobby would’ve explained why he dislikes the threaded inserts. Especially since he was so passionate about it. I use them all the time and I love using them. I’ve never had anything go wrong by using them. Kicker also uses a type of threaded insert in their quad box.

@envisionelectronics

Жыл бұрын

You can infer from the short clip that threaded inserts are difficult to align based on a pen marking then drilling. Far too easy to install slightly cocked and not get good, flat contact with the screw to basket interface. It will lead to uneven contact between the basket and enclosure, causing air leaks.

@stereomojo

Жыл бұрын

@@envisionelectronics if his reason is as simple as what you’re saying, it was a bit of an overreaction

@beemackin2316

Жыл бұрын

I sure hope the GP Enclosure does not hit 150

@joshholden8561

Жыл бұрын

That can be reglued and still be used just fine

@ksavage681

Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with inserts at all.

Every “expensive” box I have. I have threaded inserts. It just makes sense for the longevity

Mr.Gatley Very wrong way to talk to someone who has your box My dude. I’ll put threaded inserts in EVERY BOX I want to There is ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with what you did..nothing at all He literally tells you. “Use screws until they are messed up and then use a bigger screw…wtf??

Threaded inserts are fine if you mount the insert on the opposite side like a nut, use adhesive when you put them in, tighten them up prior to actually installing the sub - in and out over and over again, no issue.

The L7s have a sound of their own. A tight punch tone to them. I had a set of 12s when they first released them way back in the day. It was a sealed enclosure being powered by the ZR1000 in a 94 cutlass supreme and it turned heads all the time. Good times.

The problem with wood screws is that fluted head design that doesn’t seat correctly against the flush rim of the driver. Sometimes it will actually dent in the rim of the driver

Loving all the sub testing going on around here nowadays thank ya much keep em coming big d

That enclosure should already come with thread inserts

@VALAREZ

5 ай бұрын

yeah, at that price it should. Unless this guy invented wood itself, I don't care what he built his boxes from, his level of craftmanship or hours spent on a box, if you constantly screw into wood, it will eventually strip and you'd get air leaks from the holes. And if you angle the ports to blow over the subwoofer, you'd never be able to test if the woofer mount holes are leaking, but it doesn't change the fact that it would be.

It’s amazing how much that coil took! 5x more than rated. Jeees! That smoke at the beginning of the video had me trolled! Haha! 😂

@Brittvanegas

Жыл бұрын

There are alout of subs out there than can do that without a Sweat And not grenade it's plastics lol

@wal

Жыл бұрын

Goteem!

Let's be honest if I've purchase the box i can pretty much do as i please😂😂😂

@theoneandonly2421

Жыл бұрын

Agree especially if its $1000+.

@76228

3 ай бұрын

😂🤣💯💯

techmaster peb still shaking boxes, underrated dj.

@danielknepper6884

Жыл бұрын

"it's time to jam"

Awesome video Big D 👏. Can't wait for the next one keep up the good work 👍

The man stands behind his work!!!! Even though he got his 💰💰, he still was like dont mess up my work!!!!👍👍👍

And this is why I'm a from day one kicker fan! Especially the solo brick line. Ever since I seen them in a magazine I middle school. I had 2 15 dual 4ohm vc solo berics on a 4500 mono block d class. Still favorite system I've owned.

@Agilepickleunite

10 ай бұрын

But this video shows how bad this sub is

Wow Kicker has a rock solid voice coil!!

I remember the early days of the solobarics, they were well known for the voice coil former shrinking and grabbing hold of the pole piece. A guy here in Perth (Western australia) that went through a stack of them ended up swapping to JL subs in his chase for 160dB in his toyota starlet. This was 20 years ago.

@biggestthreattoyourexistence

Жыл бұрын

JL subs cost 10x as much

@WSKRBSCT

Жыл бұрын

​@@biggestthreattoyourexistenceThat's because they're worth it.

@jaimeramos6647

9 ай бұрын

​ @WSKRBSCT I have a W6 that cost me just as much as this SoloX 12 that ill be picking up today so I am more than curious about cost over performance with this one. I also have a HCCA 10 and have compared the two, the JL and the Orion, built boxes to the exact spec for each woofer and that Orion 10 seems to be a much louder woofer, being smaller and costing half the price is why I am commenting. Don't get me wrong that W6 is a nice woofer and sounds good but as far as competition goes, I can assure they are not match for the Orion's in priceable sound and air movement and this is comparing a 10 Orion to a 12" JL. Maybe on a DB meter it might show something different, but I doubt it. I'm curious about this SoloX so once I build a box for it I am going to compare the three. Im comparing dollar for dollar and so far Orion has the win.

@jaimeramos6647

9 ай бұрын

@@WSKRBSCT I think they are worth it as far as quality goes but as far as making the ground shake not so much dollar per dollar.

@jasx1485

4 ай бұрын

​@@biggestthreattoyourexistence no you are wrong

Great vid man. Lots of things were learned here. 😎👍👍

I think the main problem is how small kicker had to make the spiders to make that insert work. Its like having the drawback of a 4” coil being a limited spider area but you still only have a 3” coil. I didnt like the look of the small spider as soon as i had it in hand. Severely limits performance and is obviously a weak point. There must be a lot of stress and tensions on that small spider. Ya 11,000 watts over and over i can see damaging the first spider. 5,000 watts shouldn’t separate the cone from the coil though. I see reliability issues in the new solo x’s future. Definitely don’t run over rated power.

@CVLova

Жыл бұрын

not just power. dont run them in too large of a box either.

@natskar

Жыл бұрын

​@@CVLova a large box is totally fine as long as it's in spec for that sub. I run a 3.25cu ft box with my 12" comp Q for over a year now and it's worked like a champ

@sissymarylen15741a

Жыл бұрын

You say don't run over rated power but you say 5k is fine? That's double rated power

@natskar

Жыл бұрын

@@sissymarylen15741a not all the time. What their talking about is bass "burps" it a temporary bass note at high power to try and get a high SPL number. Run it at 5000w on music and it'll burn up real quick

@joshuapeters3603

Жыл бұрын

@@sissymarylen15741a no 5k is definitely overrated power and more than I would put to that subwoofer. I think that people thought this was going to be a woofer you could throw twice rated power at. It’s obviously not. I think if you want it to be reliable you need to stay around 2 to 3k. I still don’t understand why they took a basket big enough for a decent size spider and put probably the smallest spider into it in its class just for the capability of the the drop in recone. I would have rather had a decent size spider for a 3” coil. It’s one of the main benefits of 3” compared to 4” and they took it off the table.

I’m a big fan of the threaded inserts with machine screws. Yeah it might be overkill for most applications, but I always use them because they’re cool and look professional. Great job Big D.

I was just at Slamology yesterday and seen maybe 4-5 big L7X builds. They..... get.....down!!

Insane power, like to see more from this

People going off about it failing.... ON 4-5 TIMES THE RATED POWER! smh.

That's very impressive for it to take that kind of power and still be functional

@volvo09

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, you could hack that back together (both times) and take it easy on it. The sub can handle the power, it just needs to be held back from over excursion.

@DJTHRILLER

Жыл бұрын

It’s also impressive how easy they are to recone too

@drjd2real

Жыл бұрын

I'm not impressed. It has a 3.75" coil, and should handle power better. You shouldn't look forward to buying recone because the sub is supposed to last at least 2 years on rated power. It looks like this one isn't going to last on rated long-term.

@bubbawubba2307

Жыл бұрын

Pretty common for a sub to take a lot of power on burps

he did have fun with this demo 😄

Very impressive love Kicker

Mans literally BLEW this sun apart!! Was not expecting that!

Interesting video. I like what you're doing.

It was obvious it wasn't the voice coil from the last video. I made a comment on it that you could see the cone had buckled in one of the corners. Although I didn't expect the spider to be as severely damaged as it turned out to be.

Nice durability testing👍🆙️😉

Thanks for the video!!!!!!!!

Good stuff Derek.

Well, I would say that was a good test there Big D. Now they know how much they can take and make the necessary changes if they can to their subs to make them better.

Awesome content 👏

That is a beautiful gately Box... I wish I had a gately fir under my ford f150...

Now I know to attach some paper to my port to get louder 😅 talk about more sound lol, excellent video brotha!

I was waiting to see this. I seen this woofer at a sound shop....got some weight on it for sure...

That 808 dream hits really hard

DANG! That speaker is a BEAST!!!! I'd love to have one, but can't really afford it. 😢

Definitely took some massive burps in a box not designed for it. A 148, im sure it can do a 150. Man this is just a single 12, i can only imagine what the 15s and 18s will do. Ive been blown away with my Solox and im glad i bought it. Great video💯👍

@L.o.u.i.s..

Жыл бұрын

Didn't see a 18 listed.

@JAM-ur8tj

Жыл бұрын

@@L.o.u.i.s.. the 18 is coming out next year

@firebirdude2

Жыл бұрын

@@L.o.u.i.s.. Kicker said 18" and 8" are both in the distant works. Probably 12-18 months.

That sub is no joke. I want one now.

This is the way I look at it .. if I buy something .. it belongs to me.. i do as I please with it

Gately box is beautiful but so dang expensive.😮

Very impressive.

That smoke machine reminded me when I had my home system. 17 hooked a bunch of flashlights up to the speaker wires so they would go to the beat then I'd hot box a couple cigarettes. Get the light beam through the smoke effect lol

Those speakers are pretty impressive

I took 2-RF 15" P3's in a 8.0cuft 38hz tuned box full electrical and a JP33, I sent over 6k to 2- 600w rms 2.5" voice coils with a max of 30mm XmaX both ways, and they've yet to smoke or rip the spiders. Now not full blast for hours,but you get the picture. I want some RF Power subs but I'm not paying $1500 a sub. RF has lost their mind on prices and still made in China, unlike the beginning when they were made in Tempe,AZ.

@TheBoofGod

Жыл бұрын

Hell yea same here I have the p3 12s d4 2 of em running them on a jp 2300 purple one and I want the power series too but for that much idk man

@tangomantactical

Жыл бұрын

@The BoofGod I've been a RF fan for many years. Once they shipped all their products to China, I hesitated but still bought. There is no way I'm buying any Power series subs. They are on meth if they think I'm giving $1500 for a 16" sub. I could buy 6 NVX 2K rms 46 total XmaX for that price, and $1500 for a Power 2500? Uh, no. Can get a Korean made JP 83 for almost the same price with 4-5 times the power. They have lost this once die hard Fosgate fan.

I have a question about some amplifiers. Have you heard of slapz amplifiers? Are they any good? Which amplifier would you recommend Orion XTR1500.1Dz or jp13 or any other around the same price point and power output

Not his box anymore once it’s paid for, nothing wrong with threaded inserts or other types of inserts, if u want to follow Bobby advice on not useing them that’s cool, but just remember it is urs to do with as you plz

Can you do a comparison video for the box downfiring vs firing backwards? What they each meter at versus each other.

I prefer the term letting the genie out the speaker when I have smoked one! Or two maybe over the years. 😂

Yeah for $699 im just gonna grab something sundown or DB that can handle 5 6 or 8k. I got 4 x12 v3s when they were on introductory for $ 541 only 649 now i think id go that route imho. threaded inserts with triple baffels all the way. 😂 😂😂

Love the video man!

Great video! Gately makes some awesome boxes that I have seen. Every time I meet a fellow bass head Kicker always comes up in conversation with positive memories!

Wha song was you playing when you added the fog machine?

Very Efficient Is woofer keep it up kicker

Too much powa baby boi! One thing to remember. If you’re going to use straight up screws you gotta use pan head screws. Bugle tip screws bend the basket and can compromise the seal between the box and sub. I’m surprised Bobby Gately didn’t mention that. Also, damaging the basket should void the warranty of the sub.

@BASSstarlet

Жыл бұрын

What screws do you recommend?

@wirebender

Жыл бұрын

Its in his comment. Pan head screws.

how is it brother can you help me? I have a question ! I have a couple of buffers, the puch classic PCH-410 10'! i can get them to work with an alpine 3543 2 channel amp !

Need a good brake in and then throw that power at it when the spider is soften up a bit. Probably get better results

I like that enclosure design with the sideways ports. I just wonder if it affects the efficiency at all or causes any cancellation since the ports are loading against one another firing directly toward one another and perpendicular straight across the cone area of the woofer. Not saying it does it's just something I've never seen before who knows maybe it enhances the output. Would be nice to see some testing on that box versus an equivalent volume one with ports forward or rear.

@jaimeramos6647

9 ай бұрын

This was exactly what crossed my mind after seeing this box.

I'm a 3d printing geek and have several files for 3d printed speakers The printed parts are the Frame made of ASA which is similarto ABS but stronger, the cone which is a polymer carbon fiber blend, and the surround & spider made from 95A TPU It's just a nerdy hobby for me and I'm working off other designers files (designers that are way smarter than me) but trust me when I tell you there is some incredible leaps forward in 3d printing technology and you will soon see designs that only a 3d printer can pull off that will surpass the limits of any other speaker design currently available Keep your ear to the ground on that one

I'm late but have a question about the Gately enclosure........the port design doesn't allow for a loading wall ...what are the pros and cons of this?

The only kicker I have ever blown with a refurbished S12L7 with a JL 1000/1.

Hcca’s use that same type of recone feature and honestly it’s amazing

Big D, purhaps a dunce hat to put on during the livestreams, will help ease the tension. 😄😉

I bought a Gately enclosure, and I installed inserts. No issues so far. It would help a lot if he explained why not, but if he says don't use them because he simply doesn't like them, then he really shouldn't make comments like that.

I’ve got two evl 12’s in a 2 12 armor box all skar on a 4500.1rp skar amp up against my trailblazer hatch and it hasn’t broke the window yet

Love your work mate from cheap amps too pushing these bad boy subs to There limit your videos never disappoint 👌

Makes sense to at least install the sub with screws once before installing the inserts to ensure they find a home in the proper orientation

That drop in recone is just like my Orion spl15 hcca

That guy was mad because you made his box better. lol😂😂

The box is designed for one specific sub, you shouldn’t have had to drill anything. It’s not like the manufacturer is making the box universal for any round sub

All glue! Dayum that motor structure got POWA! Kicker could use some more adhesive if they can, the coil shouldn't be held back. Or that's reserved for the 15". HifiVega on the backstage pass, probably whispering "turn it up"

Very Nice

When are you gonna test the atrend enclosure sir love hour KZread channel great work thanks

I ran 2 kicker square sub woofers free air built into my mustang trunk. rear seat delete, louder than everybody 2003.

Should i go 2-10 kicker L7s or 2-10 ct sounds messo's??

You crazy broo ✌️✌️

Plunge router with a drill bit could be what it takes to get those inserts aligned so there won't be an issue maybe

Would love to see what it does with the KXA2400 at 1ohm

Got some older kicker stuff been bumping for 10 years on the same stuff

Yeeea Boyee!

Can you do a Stetsom Bravo Flex 3k? Maybe even a derby vs Taramps Smart Bass 3k. A pretty even battle of Brazilian at price and specs.

Why the threaded insert though? Whats wrong with them? I have used screws since the dawn of time and after I've taken a sub one too many times in and out I've destroyed the mounting surface, so I want to move to threaded inserts + bolts. Whats wrong with them.

Can that box be face Down? Does it clear the floor you should do that and see what numbers yoj get

What head unit is that in the sequoia

4:45 Was that "3 kinds of Bass" by Bass Outlaws?

I was cringing when you put those inserts in. Lol. Glad I’m not the only one.

Wow 😮 so it took 13+kw and didn't even blow apart from mechanical damage, this sub keeps blowing me away

I have a gately box that came with thread serts tho?

dang

How accurate is that SPL meter app on your phone? Do you recommend it to others?

@busterbarlow9094

Жыл бұрын

The phone and app are not measuring the spl. The device you see is relaying the information to the phone.

Honestly, looks like you could have shoved that spider back into place/forced the spider cap back into place, maybe a little epoxy, and re-installed!

Will use what ever i want if i buy that box

Hey buddy great video as always. Quick question, when a subs says 1000rms continuous, I have an amp that the dyno read 1015 on a 40hz but when playing music we get like half the power. So should we get an amp that is 2x the rms of the the sub ?

@bdc211

Жыл бұрын

yes... when the driver cone is moving back and forth, the impedence rises and falls.. sometimes, you could have a spread from 1 to 4 ohms.. if an amp is doing 1000 watts at 1 ohm, at 4 ohms its probably doing like 300 at best.. so you want to have an amp that can do your drivers rms at 4ohms...

@bdc211

Жыл бұрын

just get a taramps smart3bass... its 300 bucks brand new.. dynos at 3000+ watts from .5 ohm - 2ohms.. does about 1700 at 4ohms... best bang for the buck

@FMATTV1986

Жыл бұрын

@@bdc211 thanks man

Nice

Giving 4x power till it shreds. Really impressive subwoofer. id buy that for a dollar 😁👍

@busterbarlow9094

Жыл бұрын

What about 700 of them dollars? Haha

@ehrenkrause9861

Жыл бұрын

@@busterbarlow9094 I'll pay more for lesser power speakers like the image dynamics IDQ 4 and the JL W6-13SM. As long as you playing with the specs I think you'll get a lot of life out of that speaker.. for $700 a one-time buy it's a pretty good deal versus $300 at Walmart and buying it four times

@busterbarlow9094

Жыл бұрын

@@ehrenkrause9861 totally different sub though. JLw6 is an sq sub.

You might be able to reglue the detached spider... it wont be easy but i bet you could force it back in place and glue it with epoxy or E6000

@wal

Жыл бұрын

It’s going back to KICKER for analysis

Miss seeing the X18....

Now the price went up!! 🤭