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Most of the traitor Primarchs became Daemon Princes during or after the Horus Heresy , so why and how did they do this?
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  • @LopsidedMoz
    @LopsidedMoz Жыл бұрын

    I think the idea of Perturabo being a Primarch Dreadnought/Obliterator is fitting and by far the coolest outcome for him

  • @Corsair2092gaming

    @Corsair2092gaming

    Жыл бұрын

    It is. It is.

  • @andreibaciu7518

    @andreibaciu7518

    Жыл бұрын

    Perturabo rejecting the ascesion to demonhood and augmenting himself to be on par with demon princes would be on character with him.

  • @ivanivanovic5586

    @ivanivanovic5586

    Жыл бұрын

    Remember the khorne-sanguinius artwork(part of a bigger one), there's also the loyalist part to it from same author too, perturabo there is portraited just as described, a huge dreadnought-statured guy with firepower to match.

  • @josedaniel3394

    @josedaniel3394

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes i also think that perty is the original obliderator and the armor he has is to not infected his entire legion form becoming obliterators

  • @Yumao420

    @Yumao420

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm only buying Perturabo as a Daemon Primarch if he ascends to be the Daemon Primarch of Vashtorr

  • @oldmanbread1826
    @oldmanbread1826 Жыл бұрын

    I keep seeing this repeated, but a video on how pre heresy primarchs would act if they were in Guilliman's position would be cool

  • @jurassicjack2937

    @jurassicjack2937

    Жыл бұрын

    Fr bro

  • @masonking240

    @masonking240

    Жыл бұрын

    Hope he’ll do it soon

  • @bigfat2286

    @bigfat2286

    Жыл бұрын

    Hope is the only thing I have now

  • @nipplesalads4205

    @nipplesalads4205

    Жыл бұрын

    Bro ive been seeing this comment for 6 months at least give up its just a bad idea

  • @thesistersofbattle

    @thesistersofbattle

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nipplesalads4205 It is actually a great idea, people just wrongly assume Majorkill cares about viewers. He only listens to wallets and stats.

  • @ebbiilizard8954
    @ebbiilizard8954 Жыл бұрын

    I like to think Perturabo beat an ancient demon engine in to submission to become his life support armour , so didn't need to ascend.

  • @aonbrogan8266
    @aonbrogan8266 Жыл бұрын

    One can only feel pity for Angron. He would have probably have been the most human of all the primarchs, even more-so than Vulkan. Yet he was essentially lobotomized and left as a mad-man in the body of a Primach.

  • @BikerTrashWolf

    @BikerTrashWolf

    Жыл бұрын

    Big E's handling of Angron I think is his biggest failing as a father. And that is saying a lot.

  • @humanity600

    @humanity600

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@BikerTrashWolf forget as a father. As a leader in general it was a moronic choice to make.

  • @Fenrisdog999

    @Fenrisdog999

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@BikerTrashWolf the only thing the emperor did wrong is by not killing angron. not sure how anything else is his fault.

  • @maltheri9833

    @maltheri9833

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Humanity First The only right choice was to either kill him or take Angron under his wing and mentor him on how to control his rage and pain. Preventing him from turning his legion into maniacs,stopping him from just rage killing everything nonstop.....yeah the Emperor shit the bed and it could only have been on purpose.

  • @secondarytrollaccount

    @secondarytrollaccount

    Жыл бұрын

    Big E could have done literally anything else when he met angron at his slave planet and it would have been better than what he did.

  • @jaketheberge1970
    @jaketheberge1970 Жыл бұрын

    I have a good idea for Perty. Instead of becoming a daemon prince enslaved by Chaos he made a deal with Vashtor to make him a kind of primarch cyborg in exchange for helping him. Vashtor is the one daemon I could see him being willing to work with. And the Iron Warriors seem to like daemon engines which are Vashtors whole thing.

  • @seprithlicastia463

    @seprithlicastia463

    Жыл бұрын

    With Vashtor's recent addition, I wholly agree with this idea. The Demonic Forges in the Warp always sounded like something the Iron Warriors would be interested in anyway. Vashtor is a good choice for a "deal with the devil" plot-line since it has long be established the Chaos Gods are cheats.

  • @willhelm94

    @willhelm94

    Жыл бұрын

    Cool ideas, also Perturabo and Abaddon are on goodish terms so Abaddon could introduce him

  • @jaketheberge1970

    @jaketheberge1970

    Жыл бұрын

    @@willhelm94 The idea i have is at some point Perty meets Vashtor no long after the Heresy. Vashtor agrees to help him cheat death after Perty gives him the Fist's gene seed from the iron cage. So they could have been partners long before Arcs Of Omen.

  • @xenoxtrollik4150

    @xenoxtrollik4150

    Жыл бұрын

    Yo cool idea

  • @willhelm94

    @willhelm94

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jaketheberge1970 That sounds awesome, although I don't know what Vashtorr would do with gene seed as he seems to use machinery and souls for his work. Throwing a crazy insane idea out there, if the primarchs are warp gods in primarch bodies, then what if Vashtorr is the warp god that was in Perry's body? If Perty finally died of fulgrim's ritual, then reformed as Vashtorr, that would explain Vashtorr's absence for 10000 years as well as also explain why Perty and Vashtorr are both so good with technology.

  • @RSBurgener
    @RSBurgener Жыл бұрын

    However it went down, Perturabo was going to make certain he could retain as much of his autonomy as he could. I think one day we'll see how he managed to get around being a chaos slave or how chaos was able to fool him into thinking of himself as more free than he is.

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    Жыл бұрын

    Read Halfbreed. He's a Daemon Prince, so are many of his Sons

  • @SIGNOR-G

    @SIGNOR-G

    6 ай бұрын

    You cannot beat the devil at his own game. Perturabo's fate was sealed the moment he joined Horus.

  • @RSBurgener

    @RSBurgener

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SIGNOR-G And it may even be that since he could always see The Eye of Terror, the Ruinous Powers managed to pierce his gestation capsule and warp him early on. They've always said that about Sanguinius and his wings, but if it happened to anyone, I think it was Perturabo. Chaos maybe chose their Primarchs as soon as Erda opened the portal.

  • @SIGNOR-G

    @SIGNOR-G

    6 ай бұрын

    @@RSBurgener i really hate with a passion the predestination thing. It ruins the choices of the primarchs. But yeah if its true that the Emperor made a deal with chaor or the warp... it may be that Perty was ruined by the day he opened his eyes for the first time.

  • @RSBurgener

    @RSBurgener

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SIGNOR-G he didn't have to do it. If The Emperor hadn't hidden knowledge of The Warp from everyone, Perturabo could've guarded himself against it and NOT turned. But the Imperial Truth made him sound like he was crazy when he told Ferrus Manus about the Star Maelstrom. And Ferrus was like "what a werido". I think that was what doomed him. He bottled it all up and he was ripe for manipulation by the Ruinous Powers. It was the Emperor that took away his agency, not Chaos. That's what I think.

  • @Historyfrek4ever
    @Historyfrek4ever Жыл бұрын

    One: Hope they retcon Perturabo cyborg monster, two: I am pretty sure Lorgar got deamonhood as a participation prize.

  • @patrickbo2045

    @patrickbo2045

    Жыл бұрын

    Place him as part of the forces of the hell forge, he shows no allegiance to a single warp god and is incredibly apt with technology, it fits like a glove.

  • @seprithlicastia463

    @seprithlicastia463

    Жыл бұрын

    Lorgar did a lot, too be fair. He furthered the cause of Chaos as a whole. A perfect prerequisite to become a Chaos Undivided Demon Prince.

  • @Historyfrek4ever

    @Historyfrek4ever

    Жыл бұрын

    @@seprithlicastia463 This is true, but chaos basically gave him the instructions how to and powered him and his troops, while Horus did stuff and acquired power almost by himself. (Moloch is a bit of grey area for now.) Lorgar on the other hand, the one time he used his own initiative (his coup) he failed miserably and bitched out.

  • @seprithlicastia463

    @seprithlicastia463

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Historyfrek4ever I think the failing here is to consider being made a Demon Prince a real reward. Yes, it can make you powerful and immortal, but Primarchs are already both of those things. Instead, for a Primarch, it is basically just a means of being forever bound to Chaos, even if Undivided. Lorgar is a Primarch, and had a lot of influence in general, so why not make him a Demon Prince and bind him forever? Even Lorgar had his doubts about everything; he might have eventually rebelled against Chaos. He had already cast aside two religions he felt betrayed him, after-all.

  • @joshuakim5240

    @joshuakim5240

    Жыл бұрын

    @@seprithlicastia463 I'm about 60% certain that Lorgar didn't become a Daemon Prince, but rather just a demon. It would explain why he's still clapped by the exact same things that could clap him before demonhood, and he got scammed super hard by the chaos gods for their amusement.

  • @Mister-Thirteen
    @Mister-Thirteen Жыл бұрын

    I like the idea that Morty (and by extension the entire Death Guard) are not just removed from the physical pain of their existence; but also the emotional one. Dulling their ability to feel guilt, Shame or remorse. Ergo why Morty is terrified of displeasing his new master. Because with the Grandfather's blessings Mortarion would feel it all.

  • @user-rs9bc4qr2s

    @user-rs9bc4qr2s

    Жыл бұрын

    He only really chose to give in to Nurble to save his boys. He ain’t really willing

  • @notani3533
    @notani3533 Жыл бұрын

    I'm more convinced that Perturabo's 'ascension' is more like Huron bargain with the dark gods to save his fleeting soul.

  • @Mr._Galaxywide

    @Mr._Galaxywide

    Жыл бұрын

    My personal theory is that he went to Magnus for help with his soul wound (considering that Magnus was his only real friend) and Magnus pulls a Lorgar and forces him into ascension against his will. This helps keeps Perty in character and helps explain why he doesn’t spend more time around Magnus.

  • @arnedecraemer7611

    @arnedecraemer7611

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Mr._Galaxywide if he did it would have angered him that biggyE offered magnus a way out but not him

  • @lordtritus2261
    @lordtritus2261 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting enough, in the books of the Angel Exterminatus there was a short chapter detailing Fulgrim landing on (Chemos?) about how he got his name and one of the workers had a fairy tale book that depicted blue-armored warrior facing a scaly serpentine creature with many limbs, referencing Roboute facing Fulgrim. It was a nice touch actually.

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    Жыл бұрын

    The Primarchs fall to Chaos was predestined Perturabo felt the Eye was always staring at him since Day 1 Halfbreed confirms he's a Daemon Primarch

  • @majorkill
    @majorkill Жыл бұрын

    Funny to think that out of the 18 Primarchs, only 2 of them actually wanted to become a Daemon. Chaos blows Lets get 500k guy and gal! Pick up the Major Minis here : www.majorminis.com.au/ Or join the Patreon here : www.patreon.com/majorkill

  • @eats_a_skittle5459

    @eats_a_skittle5459

    Жыл бұрын

    ONLY 3K AWAY !!!!!

  • @chillskeleton6529

    @chillskeleton6529

    Жыл бұрын

    Is kind of weird how chaos basically has to trap its own followers in order to gain them

  • @sharinganamvs9839

    @sharinganamvs9839

    Жыл бұрын

    Day 12 of requesting a video on Cato Sicarius 🙂 Or you'll go bold 🥚

  • @gadielphilip

    @gadielphilip

    Жыл бұрын

    Just subbed, you better film the whole video of getting the tattoo 😤

  • @nuke7777

    @nuke7777

    Жыл бұрын

    Do you read comments

  • @caveychip7510
    @caveychip7510 Жыл бұрын

    One idea I've had for a while is: what if a ship full of pre heresy word bearers arrived into the current setting? and by pre heresy, I mean before the emperor got the ultramarines to mess with them pre heresy. Love ya videos mate, keep up the good work.

  • @fuchsmichael93

    @fuchsmichael93

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn´t want to be the Servitor that has to clean their Power Armor, that´s for sure.

  • @Voltboy1449

    @Voltboy1449

    Жыл бұрын

    Simple they die

  • @humanity600

    @humanity600

    Жыл бұрын

    No doubt they would be executed, but if they somehow live then they will love the Imperial cult and hate their fallen brothers.

  • @Voltboy1449

    @Voltboy1449

    Жыл бұрын

    @@humanity600 I they lived they probably didn't meet the inquisition

  • @humanity600

    @humanity600

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Voltboy1449 true enough lol.

  • @d3rf_gg
    @d3rf_gg Жыл бұрын

    Could you do a video on the potential latent warp abilities in each primarch like how Corvus turned into a demon Raven primarch?

  • @fersho450

    @fersho450

    Жыл бұрын

    The form all daemon primarchs have are their actual warp forms like corvus. Just that those form got corrupted with the chaos gods influences.

  • @patrickbo2045

    @patrickbo2045

    Жыл бұрын

    I think he already kind of touched that topic in his "the primarch's unique warp abilities" video or whatever it was called. As for other than Corvus and the demon primarchs we never got too much intel from GW about this topic, so it's kind of rough actually doing a video on that, I reckon.

  • @crxcify1x

    @crxcify1x

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a fictional setting, the potential is whatever the writers want, any intel on their warp abilities that exists was covered in the video about the primarch powers

  • @humanity600

    @humanity600

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@crxcify1x the former part of your comment makes no sense, tf does it being fiction have to do with it? You telling him to make up warp powers for the primarchs? 🤨

  • @crxcify1x

    @crxcify1x

    Жыл бұрын

    @@humanity600 I'm saying their potential warp powers are whatever a black library writer wants them to be at any given time so a video into their POTENTIAL powers would be wildly speculative at best and impossible at worst. That's the whole point of what I'm saying, a video on their potential powers would have to be either a rehashing of his primarch abilities video or just majorkill making up powers that a primarch could have.

  • @rootsnootthnute8598
    @rootsnootthnute8598 Жыл бұрын

    Technically, Mortarion did do the proper rituals for a Nurglitch transformation, if he'd had tasks to do in order to make himself a daemon prince, purposefully, it likely wouldn't help him achieve his goal, and by having Nurgle be his goal, he wouldn't be fit for Nurgle's ultimate daemon princehood, as you mist cone to Nurgle with reluctance and desperation, otherwise you aren't his, you're downright opposite to him, a being of foolhardy aspiration, fit more for Tzeentch than logical, resigned Nurgle.

  • @seprithlicastia463

    @seprithlicastia463

    Жыл бұрын

    A twisted around way of thinking, but fitting. Good idea.

  • @DPD1

    @DPD1

    Жыл бұрын

    This is spot on. Nurgle is despair and futility, along with embracing a kind of nihilism. Mortarion's whole life was a desperate attempt to take control for himself and his sons, and one of those sons sold destroyed him with his love. No wonder he just gave up. He's nurgle incarnate.

  • @headlibrarian1996

    @headlibrarian1996

    Жыл бұрын

    How does that explain Typhon? He was clearly an eager follower, not a bit of reluctance.

  • @rootsnootthnute8598

    @rootsnootthnute8598

    Жыл бұрын

    @headlibrarian1996 A different way to gain Nurgle's favor is to revel in eternity and viirality, and the highest way to display that is resilience against all affliction and all tribulation, so that you might spread your own will until it blots out the stars themselves. Typhus is such a soul that he refuses to bend the knee to the hesitant Mortarion, Typhus would prefer to render the weak and the frail who refuse Nurgle's strength into mindless zombies, unburdened by the shackles of thought and personal consideration, Typhus is so immersed in Nurglitch power that he fails to see the difference between himself and the unthinking and irrational fecundity he embodies, Typhus is just as much a zombie as his own thralls, driven to madness and delusion under the yoke of a God of sickness who works through agents of corruption that only work as well as they do because they don't consider themselves or their own wellbeing. Plagues run their course, poxes kill off the weak, the bodies and minds of Nurgle's chosen rot in rqual measure, but a twisted strength bubbles up in them too, swelling them until it ruptures forth, the strength they wished for as they embraced Nurgle, the strength to deny death. Typhus is strong because he is in denial over the depths of his depravity and the futility in the glories he has gained, he is but a vector for a plague that destroys all, a swarm of walking corpses and daemon flies and deluded thoughts, a rancid pus that pleases Nurgle. Mortarion still has a mind to see the reality of Nurgle's way, and yet he is resigned to the same fate as the rest of the Death Guard. Denial of an indomitable fate and the despair to submit to it, with the knowledge to understand it, these are Nurglitch traits, even if they run counter in some ways, both these things gain you dark strength in the court of the maggot. But they must be true, for if you hold onto an introspective hope, the ability to reflect on your current state, and the questioning spirit to ponder change and salvation? These thoughts are Tzeentch. Typhus doesn't hope for a better state of things, he truly revels in his delusion that he is strong and that he will last on just as his plagues do, not realizing that he is but a vector for Nurgle's wishes, and that all that Nurgle wishes for is the downfall and decay of all things, including himself. Nurgle adores Typhus, because Typhus is emblematic of mortal delusion and coping mechanisms, a mental immune system desperately trying to keep what's left of a mind above the tide of filth and sorrow that Nurgle truly is. And just as Nurgle loves Typhus for his foolishness, he loves Mortarion for his indomitable rationality, for such a hard to conquer soul is truly of great strength, and the greatest of things produce the greatest of corpses, their rot that much sweeter.

  • @YokaK80
    @YokaK80 Жыл бұрын

    They didn't sell their souls, they sold... Their hair

  • @koolmin23
    @koolmin23 Жыл бұрын

    I'd love a video on how you think each primarch would do as warmaster

  • @seprithlicastia463

    @seprithlicastia463

    Жыл бұрын

    Chaos fall aside, only the Lion, Gulliman, and Horus were real contenders for the title. Maybe Dorn, but that would just be asking for trouble. That said, I still agree this would be an interesting hypothetical. The thought of the Night Haunter as Warmaster is just too hilariously ill-fitting to not want to imagine.

  • @jimthee629
    @jimthee629 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe Perturabo's suit has a deamon trapped in it, acting as the power source.

  • @abdullahirfan9991

    @abdullahirfan9991

    Жыл бұрын

    Kinda like a daemon engine

  • @Nikita_gooskov

    @Nikita_gooskov

    11 ай бұрын

    Would be cool for it to be either a necron engine, or a C'tan shard

  • @victordavila9812
    @victordavila9812 Жыл бұрын

    I always like to imagine lorgar siting in his room looking at the window and seeing a demonic crow looking straight at him kinda like a demonic version pf the poem of Edgar Allan Poe the crow

  • @abdullahirfan9991

    @abdullahirfan9991

    Жыл бұрын

    Lorgar: **enjoying some chaos tea** Corvus: I came in like a wrecking ball!

  • @tzeentchlordoffates9268
    @tzeentchlordoffates9268 Жыл бұрын

    Second biggest life insurance scam in galactic history

  • @bobbyrabii6119

    @bobbyrabii6119

    Жыл бұрын

    Gotta ask, which was the biggest?

  • @tzeentchlordoffates9268

    @tzeentchlordoffates9268

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobbyrabii6119 C'tan giving the Necrons immortality

  • @jonathan6401
    @jonathan6401 Жыл бұрын

    How each pre-heresy primarch would react to the current imperium when placed in Gullimans shoes would be a cool video idea

  • @cindermoth3421

    @cindermoth3421

    Жыл бұрын

    I wonder what Lorgar especially would think, yeah he'd be happy people are now worshipping the emperor as a god, but he might still have issues with how they are doing it. Hell it might be even more interesting if he goes basically the mirror route of Guilliman with this. Seeing how the ecclesiarchy is corrupt and causing a lot of problems for the Imperium, trying to fix it and end up somewhat agreeing with G-man that the Imperium needs more than faith, like how Roboute is starting to see that the Imperial cult may have sort of a point. Lorgar and Guilliman, church and state. Honestly those two working together would be the best at making and managing empires out of the bunch.

  • @nobleman9393

    @nobleman9393

    Жыл бұрын

    Perturabo: Gets angry that the Imperium is even more disappointing than before, but gets to reclaiming and Crusading while being super bitter all the time, you don't want to be a Guardsman under his command no matter what. Lorgar: "Ah finally, humanity in religious" Angron: "FUCK OFF, I DON'T CARE THAT THE EMPEROR'S SHITTY EMPIRE IS IN RUINS!" I won't do the rest.

  • @TheCorrodedMan

    @TheCorrodedMan

    Жыл бұрын

    Angron(let’s assume that in this scenario he was put to sleep and the nails eventually broke down due to age): _This…this isn’t right. He’s not a god! He’s not a GOD! Stop praising him as if he’s listening! HE’S NOT LISTENING! HE DOESN’T CARE ABOUT YOU!_ Perterabo: _We traded death at the hands of Horus…for this. Dorn, I wish I could see you one last time. The look upon your face would make all of the pain I suffered in your shadow worth it_ Lorgar(loyalist): _Mankind has seen the light, at last. But look around you; see the man at your side, and tell me if he is loyal or a traitor. You cannot, because traitors wear the skin of the faithful to deceive the weak and unobservant. I come to you now, not as a lord or a king, but as a humble preacher. I preach the truth of His divinity, I speak of His deeds and impart them unto you, his chosen children. Sons and Daughters of Terra, lend me your ears! I shall preach to you now, not just of a god, but of a man, the Greatest Man who has ever or will ever live!_ Fulgrim(loyalist): _I have come to you now in your time of greatest need, to show you the way. The way to a brighter future, a new tomorrow! I, Fulgrim, last living son of the Emperor of Mankind, hereby declare that I and I alone shall lead this glorious Imperium. I do not seek to usurp my father, only to use the mighty realm He has crafted to protect YOU! The people! I see your hurt, your fear, and I tell you now to cast it away. There is nothing in this galaxy that Mankind cannot conquer, for what the strength of the Xenos, the Mutant, and the Traitor is as nothing compared to the glory that is the Master of Mankind!_ Mortarion(loyalist): (no grand speeches, no preaching, just a cold and ruthless purge followed by the initiation of a crusade akin to Roboute’s) Alpharius/Omegon: (same as Mortarion, only a lot subtler) Konrad: _The strong have preyed for too long upon the meek, and I have heard your prayers. Though you spoke not to me, still I heard, and I have arrived to deliver the cold wrath of the Emperor. Traitors, listen well, for I know that you can hear me! I am Konrad Curze! Last loyal son of the Emperor! AND I HAVE COME FOR YOU!_ Magnus(and this one’s the kicker): _Father, I have returned_ (the Crimson King reaches out and rests a bronzed hand upon his fathers withered chest. The Emperor has sat immobile upon the Golden Throne for centuries, and yet at the Primarchs touch, a single withered finger on the Emperor’s withered hand twitches) _I see now why you gave me such gifts. It was my duty to hold this vigil, not yours. Would that I could turn back the chronometer and fulfill my purpose; perhaps you would be standing here before me, rather than the reverse. I cannot undo what has been done, but I can try to save what remains. I will finish your great work, and I will free you from this…thing. You will rise again, but not today. Until we meet again, father. Be well, and know that I love you still_

  • @historytank5673

    @historytank5673

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheCorrodedMan Ok I like all of yours, but imagine with Magnas, this happens, The primarch after touching the Emperor and saying his piece, is then contacted by the emperor, asking if he is really sorry, Magnus says yes, the emperor asks if hes willing to suffer for the emperor, Magnus hesitates before replying yes. The emperor then says "then lend me your strength", united the emperor begins to close the webway gate, this strain begins to destroy Magnus, as this is only his bad side he is heavily drawn to flee, but deep within him some good remains, what drove him to defect form chaos and he pushes on. This is what the emperor was waiting for, this was a test and Magnus passed it, for in that moment Magnus good shard emerges having been combined with all the previously missing pieces and is reunited with Magnus. In a flash Magnus is whole, restored, the webway is closed which also means the Emperor better understands it (lets say while yes he forced it closed, how it closed taught him how he could of done it easier) but most of all, the Emperor arises, his body quickly reforming, his soul pieces return to him and he stands, without any words spoken or transmitted, he and Mangus swap places. Magnus knows this is his duty and he embraces it, the Atronomica does not even flicker, in fact it glows brighter as Mangus is able to channel all his power into it. The Emperor stretches and turns to his son, then kneels, he apologized, he explains that after so long on the throne with the ability to hear cry in his name and see many lives he relised that he had lacked one thing when making his empire, its what drove his fellow primordial away, he lacked love and empathy, if he had some he could of saved his sons he would of been able to see Magnus needed not to be punished but shown what dangers their were. With that the Emperor turned and walked away, while he knew he had an empire to save, that was not his first task. no, To him, He had 19 sons to save.

  • @marcusgodfrey4061
    @marcusgodfrey4061 Жыл бұрын

    Would love to see you explain the Octarius war

  • @cthulhupthagn5771
    @cthulhupthagn5771 Жыл бұрын

    I like the idea that Perterabo is like an inverse Guilliman. Both are using armor to keep them alive until they can figure out a way to fully cure themselves And it's fitting that while gillman is willing to work with others including xenos, Thus actually making progress, Pert has Been mutating into a obliterator

  • @Tokumastu1
    @Tokumastu1 Жыл бұрын

    When it comes to Perturabo I think his Dreadnaught-like armor may have a new form of Daemon engine thus creating confusion over he is or isn't a Daemon Prince.

  • @ericdraven8837
    @ericdraven8837 Жыл бұрын

    I would love to see that after Vashtor full ascention to Godhood sent part of his own power back in time to make Perturabo ascend to Daemonhood, making Perturabo the Deamon-Primarch of Vashtor even before Vastor reach Godhood, because since time has no meaning in the warp it is totally possible

  • @TheCorrodedMan

    @TheCorrodedMan

    Жыл бұрын

    That implies that Vashtor succeeded in his efforts, which is still far from set in stone.

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    Жыл бұрын

    Vashtorr isn't even a Chaos God like Malice or Archaon!

  • @ericdraven8837

    @ericdraven8837

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christiandauz3742 first Archaon is NIT a chaos god, he's their slave; second: I love Malice but has no posible link to Perturabo, and third If Vashtorr becomes a full fledge Chaos God he sent a portiin of his power back in time in order to fuel Perturabo's ascention, in the Warp time and space doesn't exists so it is technically posible

  • @TheCorrodedMan

    @TheCorrodedMan

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christiandauz3742 *Yet

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ericdraven8837 Archaon is a Chaos God by Age of Sigmar, he is no longer human. Normal people see him like a Daemon

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 Жыл бұрын

    Perturabo, Angron, Mortarion, and Magnus were all sad stories of ascension. Perturabo is diseased, Angron was on death's door, Mortarion had to pick between two hells, and Magnus had no control over it. I really would like to see a Chaos Rebellion where all four of them are like "Fuck This!" and rebel against Chaos leading to a Chaos civil war and a permanent crippling of the faction and those four potentially being redeemed by the Emperor, but choosing to remain in the Warp as the Imperium is no longer home to them.

  • @mattiaslime8926

    @mattiaslime8926

    Жыл бұрын

    They can't. As demon princes they are now de facto avatar of the chaos gods. They have some resemblance of free toughts but most of their actions and will are inlfuenced by the gods will. Even belakor think of himself as an indipendent demi god of its own when in fact he is a servant of the chaos gods.

  • @gooddaysir8273

    @gooddaysir8273

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mattiaslime8926 yeah but it would be cool

  • @patrickbo2045

    @patrickbo2045

    Жыл бұрын

    Well, the almighty god-emperor already stated that he could save Morty if given enought time. I reckon all of them could find redemption if our shining golden god were ever to return. So prepare to never see that story unravel! :-)

  • @C00kiesAplenty

    @C00kiesAplenty

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@mattiaslime8926 Influenced by but not directly controlled. Mortation's attack on Ultrimar was against Nurgle's wishes. Also Scarbrand's entire backstory.

  • @JBobo-qd4eh

    @JBobo-qd4eh

    Жыл бұрын

    I pledge "Rule of cool".

  • @Homicidal_Gopro117
    @Homicidal_Gopro117 Жыл бұрын

    "Brother i have been pinned here!"

  • @omgcranberryisnumba1

    @omgcranberryisnumba1

    Жыл бұрын

    I CANNOT MOOOVE!

  • @GasMaskedThings

    @GasMaskedThings

    Жыл бұрын

    GW Lawyers are coming

  • @srf8788

    @srf8788

    Жыл бұрын

    BROTHER NOOOO😢

  • @stripeybag6977
    @stripeybag6977 Жыл бұрын

    It's kind of weird that of all the Daemon Princes you'd think Slaanesh would suck off their Princes the most but no it's Khorne because have you seen how much they regen which is the only reason they don't die. Also Major Mini for Commissar Yarrick please.

  • @patrickbo2045
    @patrickbo2045 Жыл бұрын

    Where in my opinion Perturabo would make the most sense is as champion or even leader of the forces of the hell forge, as he shows no allegiance to a single chaos god and also is one hell of a crafty dude! Also it'd give that position more character than that new guy they just introduced that GW just pulled out of theirs. What does everyone think?

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    Жыл бұрын

    Read Halfbreed

  • @feroexe7965
    @feroexe7965 Жыл бұрын

    Idea: What if each Primarch swapped worlds? Ex. Guilliman landing on Inuit or Mortarion landing on Prospero? Though they still have their respective primarch abilities, so no magic Angron or Siegemaster Sanguinius

  • @Praise___619

    @Praise___619

    Жыл бұрын

    🔝🔝Thanks for the feedback. Expect more videos very soon Send a direct message I have something for you 😊

  • @roguepsykerhaaker4813

    @roguepsykerhaaker4813

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd imagine that most wouldn't do any better than Angron in his position. Perhaps Corvus or Magnus would escape, and Horus' charisma or Fulgrim's prettiness might keep them from the worst of slavery. Perhaps someone like Perturabo would be willing to kill their fellows and thus avoid the butcher's nails. Guilliman might actually prove himself more valuable as an administrative slave than as a gladiator. Then again that's just my opinion.

  • @xenoxtrollik4150
    @xenoxtrollik4150 Жыл бұрын

    Perturabo great plot I think as perturabo never had a sense of acomplishment and any hard time with any issue He wasnt angry at fulgrim He was happy Because He got something to work on that He didnt knew howto do it So he full isolated himself to learn about it And could do it in 10 millenias So he extends his life using Dreadnought/obliterator tech Or Got a deal with vashtor

  • @keithwalski6822
    @keithwalski6822 Жыл бұрын

    I like to think that the chaos gods are like the show shark tank the rituals and sacrifices are a pitch to get there support and when you displease them and they want out they cut there funding and turn you into a chaos spawn.

  • @justeedo3226
    @justeedo3226 Жыл бұрын

    Majorkill I gotta say you're videos have only been getting better and better. With better and better quality. I've been around since Timmy getting the beatings he deserved. So happy to see my favorite 40k youtuber and top 5 fav youtubers enter (soon) the 500k plus subs club.

  • @jlinkpro
    @jlinkpro Жыл бұрын

    Perty ends up a daemon prince of vashtor. Calling it now

  • @Sosodefkid
    @Sosodefkid Жыл бұрын

    Watching your old videos to know shows you’ve grown and it’s amazing to watch in real time keep it up

  • @andreboomboom6235
    @andreboomboom6235 Жыл бұрын

    Your content is great dude! So glad you're getting 500K, cheers to a million!

  • @iDEATH
    @iDEATH Жыл бұрын

    From what I remember of their lore, the Word Bearers are pretty neat. Schemey, zealous, bastards, right? It'd be cool to see more of them. I always like a villain that _chose_ to be a villain (it's why I love the Drukhari), someone you can't really sympathize with, you know? Lorgar really fits that mold. EDIT: oh, pre-gratz, MK! You're just under 1k away from that half-million as I type this.

  • @Praise___619

    @Praise___619

    Жыл бұрын

    🔝🔝Thanks for the feedback. Expect more videos very soon Send a direct message I have something for you 😊

  • @IvyOfCthulhu
    @IvyOfCthulhu Жыл бұрын

    We all better hope MajorKill never starts balding, he'll be obligated to become evil.

  • @tonyshort3590
    @tonyshort359028 күн бұрын

    Keep the videos coming mate, makes my days at work bearable listening to lore.

  • @DungeonsNDreadnoughts
    @DungeonsNDreadnoughts Жыл бұрын

    Demon Primarch inspired models need to be sculpted!

  • @YanM1346
    @YanM1346 Жыл бұрын

    500K!!! lets gooooo! been with you for a few years now and so happy to see this amazing channel grow so much! Keep giving us 40k entertainment please like the ausi custodian that you are :)

  • @Galactus78
    @Galactus78 Жыл бұрын

    And people wonder why Perturabo has trust issues

  • @lucasarmy6461
    @lucasarmy6461 Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations @majorkill on 500k can’t wait to see the tattoo!!

  • @thethanor
    @thethanor Жыл бұрын

    LOL at the &4thly "please". Fantastic. I am sure you will get 500k soon, keep up the great content!

  • @WarriorKidd06
    @WarriorKidd06 Жыл бұрын

    Always love these. Looking forward to seeing you get 500k

  • @thedango6890
    @thedango6890 Жыл бұрын

    Incredible and tatseful work with the calendars my man. I remember growing up and visiting shops with the classic pin up calendars. Tasteful and classic

  • @timmerjoy8781
    @timmerjoy8781 Жыл бұрын

    500k. Congrats. Well deserved

  • @carlosgutierrez422
    @carlosgutierrez422 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the 500k my man! keep it classy!

  • @donshipman8441
    @donshipman8441 Жыл бұрын

    LETS GO 500k!!!!! Been here since 25k Love you channel bro!

  • @jamesmclean8022
    @jamesmclean8022 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on 500K Subscribers.

  • @Sonofthelion456
    @Sonofthelion456 Жыл бұрын

    My head canon for perty is that he is working to make machines that keep him alive, while also making demon engines for chaos. Not really a demon primarch but more like a faction of chaos

  • @abdullahirfan9991

    @abdullahirfan9991

    Жыл бұрын

    Vashtorr: frwend? :D

  • @Drew_Thompson
    @Drew_Thompson Жыл бұрын

    Lorgar keeps the light on at night because he knows Corvus waits in his closet.

  • @Ramsesdgr8
    @Ramsesdgr8 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on hitting 500K!

  • @TechNinjaSigma
    @TechNinjaSigma Жыл бұрын

    Even though I agree that it would go against his character, I REALLY want Vashtorr to win and ascend to godhood (fat chance that'lll happen but I can dream can't I?) Anyway, if Vashtorr wins, I think it would be awesome if Perturabo became his first Demon Prince. He's already been working together with Abbadon and he definitely won't pledge himself to him. If Perturabo is already a Prince, then he probably LOATHES having to answer to FOUR Chaos Gods and Vashtorr is definitely more his type, he's infinitely more direct and clear about what he wants, and not as fickle and weird, plus the Demon Machine Aesthetic would be awesome. If he's not ascended, then he's simply running out of time before he perishes and for the reasons listed above, Vashtorr is as good a Chaos god as any. I vote Perturabo as Demon Prince of Vashtorr

  • @zackbob6
    @zackbob6 Жыл бұрын

    500k by the time I'm aatching this, congrats!

  • @joakinzz
    @joakinzz Жыл бұрын

    i admire your enthusiasm and tenacity at work, keep it up

  • @Praise___619

    @Praise___619

    Жыл бұрын

    🔝🔝Thanks for the feedback. Expect more videos very soon Send a direct message I have something for you 😊

  • @JakubDavoy
    @JakubDavoy Жыл бұрын

    I thought about how much work you put into these videos, dude. You totally deserve the 500k. Keep it going!

  • @Praise___619

    @Praise___619

    Жыл бұрын

    🔝🔝Thanks for the feedback. Expect more videos very soon Send a direct message I have something for you 😊

  • @marceloasensiofilho3833
    @marceloasensiofilho3833 Жыл бұрын

    How I believe Perty became a daemon prince (if he did): Perturabo: So if I become a daemon prince I can wreck Dorn's shit more? Chaos gods: Yes Perturabo: Sign me in

  • @alastor8091

    @alastor8091

    Жыл бұрын

    His fight against Angron showed he doesnt value strength that isn't ones own. He mocked Angron for being a slave to Chaos and pointed out that he was about to get his ass whooped because Khorne was the one with the muscle, Angron was just a vessel, and as the slaughter on the battlefield came to a hault, Angron lost most of his power. Not saying it COULDNT happen, but Perturabo would have to be in a situation so bad he couldn't even pretend there was a way out.

  • @marceloasensiofilho3833

    @marceloasensiofilho3833

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alastor8091 And since when Perturabo is reasonable and non-hypocritical when talking about Dorn? Hahaha

  • @Mr._Galaxywide
    @Mr._Galaxywide Жыл бұрын

    My personal theory is that he went to Magnus for help with his soul wound (considering that Magnus was his only real friend) and Magnus pulls a Lorgar and forces him into ascension against his will. This helps keeps Perty in character and helps explain why he doesn’t spend more time around Magnus.

  • @berilsevvalbekret772

    @berilsevvalbekret772

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't think so. Magnus even as a daemon primarch isn't have the cruelty others have even during the invasion of Fenris. I doubt he would do what Lorgar did.

  • @Mr._Galaxywide

    @Mr._Galaxywide

    Жыл бұрын

    @@berilsevvalbekret772 He would have done it to save Perty's life as his soul was draining because of Fulgrim's wound.

  • @kiddknite3999
    @kiddknite3999 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been subscribed I love this channel and literally can’t wait sometimes for you to release videos even when you don’t post for a week even when you’re supposed to

  • @Praise___619

    @Praise___619

    Жыл бұрын

    🔝🔝Thanks for the feedback. Expect more videos very soon Send a direct message I have something for you 😊

  • @Solcollector1
    @Solcollector1 Жыл бұрын

    CONGRATS ON THE 500k!!!!!

  • @davidwooden3878
    @davidwooden3878 Жыл бұрын

    Whooo! Congratulations on making 500k!

  • @SA_IN
    @SA_IN Жыл бұрын

    500K strong! Congratulations!

  • @fuchsmichael93
    @fuchsmichael93 Жыл бұрын

    For Perty i would say, why not both? What is a Demon Dreadknought other than a Soulgrinder. I could totally see him chilling in the Forge of Souls with Vashtorr, turning himself into a living Fortress so Dorn can siege his Nutz

  • @christiandauz3742

    @christiandauz3742

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you too poor to read Halfbreed

  • @madalchemist3420
    @madalchemist3420 Жыл бұрын

    justice for the lamenters

  • @gunnerbradley5282
    @gunnerbradley5282 Жыл бұрын

    Listening to your wording on Russ vs Magnus, it got me thinking about Russ’s abilities. Every primarch inherited a trait from The Emperor, what if Russ inherited the ability to destroy (in reality, and on a spiritual level) and loyalty.

  • @elanthus478
    @elanthus478 Жыл бұрын

    Subscribed mate, well deserved! For the Emprah!

  • @jewsheisty8133
    @jewsheisty8133 Жыл бұрын

    A video on each primarchs reaction to chaos and demons would be lit

  • @gudboah4688
    @gudboah46884 ай бұрын

    My theory is that Perturabo ascended in a similar manner to to how Corvus became a warp entity: by using his innate primarch connection to the warp. Also, the more I learn about Lorgar the more I think that he should be the primary antagonist of the setting. Such an underutilized character.

  • @trimeerious4349
    @trimeerious4349 Жыл бұрын

    Getting a video avout how each of the ore hersey primarhbwoul reacted to being in guillimans situation would be pretty cool ngl

  • @condor3647
    @condor3647 Жыл бұрын

    500k congrats!!!

  • @hmsrenown7801
    @hmsrenown7801 Жыл бұрын

    Hey majorkill maybe you could make a video on the different warships of the imperial navy? It would be kinda cool

  • @jleague5749
    @jleague5749 Жыл бұрын

    The please at the end finally made me subscribe

  • @IamDeathIncarnate1337
    @IamDeathIncarnate1337 Жыл бұрын

    grats on 500k!

  • @lorgaraurelian3392
    @lorgaraurelian3392 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats on 500k

  • @ESAPOWER
    @ESAPOWER6 ай бұрын

    Been watching your videos for ages. But I just subscribed today.... Because you said please! :D

  • @samuel5742
    @samuel5742 Жыл бұрын

    Nice intro, I like this new exciting style.

  • @chrissy-chan3804
    @chrissy-chan3804 Жыл бұрын

    Dude those little zoom out/in edits are gold

  • @Praise___619

    @Praise___619

    Жыл бұрын

    🔝🔝Thanks for the feedback. Expect more videos very soon Send a direct message I have something for you 😊💕

  • @cringelord1809
    @cringelord1809 Жыл бұрын

    Ayoooooo i remember when 100k was the goal.. How much you have grown, Majorkill!

  • @Praise___619

    @Praise___619

    Жыл бұрын

    🔝🔝Thanks for the feedback. Expect more videos very soon Send a direct message I have something for you 😊💕

  • @Cousin-Eddy
    @Cousin-Eddy Жыл бұрын

    I'm curious why the Loyalist Primarchs didn't somehow acquire their own Emperor based ascension.

  • @fatalisblack7213
    @fatalisblack72137 ай бұрын

    It's a personal headcannon of mine that Perturabo has assended to the level of a deamon Prince, but he is not chaos undivided. Instead he's likely aligned himself with an unaligned chaos entity who is trying to gain power in the warp, most likely Vashtoor.

  • @blacksabbath5300
    @blacksabbath5300 Жыл бұрын

    Could you please make a video about how well each of the legions did during the great crusade? Basically ranking them based on how much they had conquered and in general what each legion did. (or something like that.) I think it would be awesome, thankyou very much majordaddy.

  • @seprithlicastia463

    @seprithlicastia463

    Жыл бұрын

    Or just talk about it in general. There are a lot of way to grade this, too. Most worlds? Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Word Bearers. Most compliant? Night Lords, Imperial Fists. Most stable? Luna Wolves. Lots to talk about.

  • @blacksabbath5300

    @blacksabbath5300

    Жыл бұрын

    @@seprithlicastia463 yes I know dark angels and ultramarines did well. But you’re flat out wrong on the word bearers, sorry I’m not being mean I’m just saying they were literally criticized for conquering barely anything because they were too busy making choir boy hubs and giant churches praising the guy who outright told people not to call him god. I meant not necessarily just ranking but talking in general.

  • @AdamNoya
    @AdamNoya4 ай бұрын

    By far the wildest descriptions of 40k I've ever heard loll

  • @Anthony05171998
    @Anthony05171998 Жыл бұрын

    Solid video been wondering about this since I read about fulgrim betraying and trying to sacrifice perty to ascend but failed to yet still ascended

  • @lewstherintelamon1726
    @lewstherintelamon1726 Жыл бұрын

    Was pleasantly and merrily surprised to see you guesting lorecrimes!

  • @kodak5678
    @kodak5678 Жыл бұрын

    Cool vid majorkill

  • @chrisrodgers855
    @chrisrodgers8554 ай бұрын

    Pretty turbo boy is going to worship Vashtor and will be his Daemon Prince

  • @Northumbrian26
    @Northumbrian26 Жыл бұрын

    Hoping to see 500k soon lad!

  • @mightysurtur752
    @mightysurtur752 Жыл бұрын

    Congrats man you deserve it

  • @abdullahirfan9991
    @abdullahirfan9991 Жыл бұрын

    Am i the only one who thinks perty may or may not be the "daemon prince" for vashtorr who either turned him into one or augmented him to be on pair with the DP's. The whole augmentation to be on pair would also fit perty but hey that's just a theory.... A film/game theory, thanks for riding. Bonus: Angron: the missons,the nightmares.....they are finally.....over. *And then along came lorgar, he hurled-*

  • @Praise___619

    @Praise___619

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @abdullahirfan9991

    @abdullahirfan9991

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Praise___619 I'm good fam, thanks tho

  • @byronivie6621
    @byronivie66218 ай бұрын

    Your Warhammer videos are the best

  • @an0nycat
    @an0nycat Жыл бұрын

    The writer from the Black Library said that Perturabo became a Daemon Prince, and added that the Daemon Prince of Chaos undivided is only Lorgar.

  • @InfiniteMonkeysSA

    @InfiniteMonkeysSA

    Жыл бұрын

    Wait what if Perty's a daemon prince of Vashtorr?

  • @nobleman9393

    @nobleman9393

    Жыл бұрын

    @@InfiniteMonkeysSA Would be intersting, but they were stated to sometimes work together at arm's lenght and fingers crossed behind their backs.

  • @monkeybusiness673
    @monkeybusiness673 Жыл бұрын

    7:10 "Don't mess with me! I have wings, a big sword...And half a Space Wolf!"

  • @InfiniteMonkeysSA
    @InfiniteMonkeysSA Жыл бұрын

    Perty could be a daemon prince of Vashtorr

  • @jimmysmith2249
    @jimmysmith2249 Жыл бұрын

    Lorgar: *Hiding in his tower* Corvus, skulking around outside the tower chanting creepily: Lorgaaaaar. Time to come out and plaaaa-aay.

  • @MrSkillns
    @MrSkillns Жыл бұрын

    No, Majorkill. YOU are the absolute legend!

  • @reverendbk
    @reverendbk Жыл бұрын

    I've been lurking for about 2 months. Subscribed today, because you said "please"....

  • @SpyralHax
    @SpyralHax Жыл бұрын

    What would have happened if Perturabo was made Praetorian of Terra instead of Rogal Dorn? Given how hard he carried the traitors during the Siege and whatnot.

  • @mattiaslime8926

    @mattiaslime8926

    Жыл бұрын

    Dorn becone traitor instead of perturabo.

  • @SpyralHax

    @SpyralHax

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mattiaslime8926 I dunno, that seems too straightforward for 40k 🤣

  • @divout6688
    @divout6688 Жыл бұрын

    The thought of Perturabo faking being a demonprince and then crying himself to sleep over no one wanting him must be the most Perturabo-thing I have ever heard 😂

  • @Mr_Krieg
    @Mr_Krieg Жыл бұрын

    Soon half a million... You go you crazy Aussie !

  • @joshuamiller7502
    @joshuamiller7502 Жыл бұрын

    What if Perturabo is slowly replacing himself with machinery, until eventually when his entire soul is gone all that is left is an enormous, primarch-level man of gold AI. That would be fucking awesome.

  • @halfknight2310

    @halfknight2310

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    now that would be cool.

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