Dr Kuhn asks some thought-provoking questions! Such a smart and well-read man.

I absolutely love discussions like this. Another excellent video. I love CTT.

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

Mental masturbation can be fun, but speculations take you nowhere. On the other hand, listening to the Mind that is All will take you EVERYWHERE. "God" is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) My book explains fully, and my KZread channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned and the Tribulations have begun....

@colinjava8447

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomrhodes1629 how do you know god exists? Seems like you're just assuming he exists and acts as you say he does

@JoshuaMSOG7

2 жыл бұрын

@@colinjava8447 We know a God exist. We call it Aliens. You hate the term “ God “ cause it implies religion or maybe a judgmental being that will hold you accountable .

@colinjava8447

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoshuaMSOG7 What are you on about? God is an alien? Huh?

@JoshuaMSOG7

2 жыл бұрын

@@colinjava8447 you believe in aliens?

Amazing and informative episodes for deep questions about life, existence and meaning.

I believe we are all made of the same mass components as the standard model may describe that God established through the initiation of energy, "Let there be light." The universe unfolded in order for God to have relationship with his creation. To love and to be loved back. Is it perfect? How would we know perfect unless something was imperfect? Is it good? How would we know good if something was not good? Do we have choice? How would we know choice unless there was the opportunity for choice? God can use quantum fields of energy or vacuum or other medium to discern our prayers or intentions, to receive praise or to intervene as God sees fit. To have a grander plan knowing he will ultimately take care of us, his intermediary creations. To keep us striving for our own development and interest while having boundaries we cannot penetrate. What a wonderful experiment for God and we, who have consciousness, get to participate.

@jedi4049

2 жыл бұрын

What a wonderful comment. I am privileged to have read it.

When we peer out into the Universe with our instruments, we see a violent but structured Universe. From each event, there are infinite possibilities and hence an infinite number of Universes. The uncaused first cause for all these Universes is God and so God does not have to intervene in any of them.

@melgross

3 жыл бұрын

Charles Rothauser eh, that’s your belief. It’s not a truth.

@georgesolomon9505

3 жыл бұрын

God.... Fairy tail based on the ignorance and stupidity....

@charlesrothauser1328

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgesolomon9505 The more scientists study and learn about the Universe, a structure emerges that points to a plan. We are in the Universe and the Universe is in us. Cause and effect leads back to the uncaused first cause, God.

One possibility that wasn’t mentioned is that God intervenes through awareness, not through physical causation. As humans have become more aware, we recognised slavery as wrong, and abolished it, we see animals as sentient, and the environment as fragile and precious - and we act accordingly. We develop compassion. The universe shows no such compassion, so though it can not be separate from God, such a God must have relinquished control for a universe so dispassionate to the pain & suffering of its creatures. Maybe it’s only by relinquishing control, that free will can exist, as sentient beings become responsible as co-creators of the world - for better of for worse.

@georgesolomon9505

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with this... We the humans, see our selves like something special... Our existing mean nothing for the Universe... When we realize that, probably our behavior will change to better, for us and for our blue planet, wich is our only and real Creator

@charleebecker8774

2 жыл бұрын

There is more slavery in the world today than ever before.

@ezbody

2 жыл бұрын

Not "we", just some of us. The rest is paying a lip service to their illusory God, just in case He is real. Doing good, though, is worth it for the sake of goodness itself.

@georgesolomon9505

2 жыл бұрын

Of course not all of us.... But the majority of the people who want to be a part of the crowd, than their own selves...

@anthonycraig274

2 жыл бұрын

OK, Let’s get real. England abolished slavery and serfdom after the peasant revolt in 1380s. Slavery in the USA was abolished because the slave states lost the war to continue to use men as slaves. it definitely wasn’t because your god gave anyone awareness. The queen of England at the time along with the ruling class read the book uncle toms a cabin who helped propelled the abolishment of international slavery. So no what you said about god giving man awareness about slavery is just poppycock.

The most loving thing God could give us would be..............our freedom. In order to do this God had to hide. Because if God revealed himself as he really is, even instantaneously, we'd be so stunned, shocked, awed, and terrified we might forget we exist. We would have No Choice but to acknowledge him. And our freedom would be gone. So God hides and our freedom is preserved. But God had to hide. Otherwise there would be nothing BUT God. Maybe that's why God allows the cosmos to look like it doesn't need him.

@StallionFernando

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, in his return just his mere visual presence alone will cause every one to fall to their knees and cry out in fear. Moses just catching a mere glimpse of his aura or glory left his face shinning.

@jedi4049

2 жыл бұрын

@@StallionFernando Amen

God is exist . It is not our job to know where he comes from because it is impossible..Our job is to worship him and thank him for creating us.

Conscious awareness discovering God fullness through language and perhaps other.

Your KZread series and website are always interesting and timely. I especially liked your take on How could God intervene in the Universe. I would love to hear you talk to two US scholars who have strong and beautifully reasoned opinions on this very subject, Mr. Nader Saiedi, a professor at the University of California and Adib Masumian, Manager of Global Learning Technologies at AMD.

I think God intervenes in my life a lot of times. You know it, some things suppose to happen but it didn't because some great force just cloaked you. You know it to yourself. There is no doubt because You can't lie to yourself that it is not what suppose to happen but it seems you have something to do yet so you are still here. I try to find answer myself. That is why I'm listening here. But no doubt there is great force "Personal God" that intervenes in my life.

@duaneholcomb8408

2 жыл бұрын

I also believe in god. Your not alone in that. I think he resides out side of. Our World. Yet he still can. Has power. Over it. ,,

@Joe-lb8qn

Жыл бұрын

I wonder why this god intervened in your life but, for example, not in the life of a baby with cancer? Were your needs greater? Did they not deserve it but you did? Or why he cures some children with cancer or other illness (but not all children, just some) yet never, literally never, cures an amputee. Is god unable or has a bias against them?

I’ve noticed the idea of God usually starts from the a priori assumption that nothing is the normal state and requires an outside entity to create something. But the opposite seems as valid. That something is the natural state of the universe and nothing requires an outside force.

@thebullybuffalo

4 жыл бұрын

"Something is the natural state of the universe" Lol how would it be otherwise? It's just a tautological statement. Nothing is the natural state of the universe? Something (the universe) that has a state of *being* that is *nothing* just doesn't exist... You're like "well it seems that something always existed which was the universe because uhh... clearly the universe exists and is something" What?

@kencusick6311

4 жыл бұрын

@@thebullybuffalo The arguments for God always start from an a priori assumption that the existence of the universe needs to be explained. That without this explanation, nothingness would prevail. Why should that be so? That the universe has always existed, strikes me as equally valid as the statement, God has always existed.

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, Ken, as my book explains, the ancient Greek philosopher Parmenides - the father of modern logic - correctly explained how NOTHINGNESS is absolutely impossible. And, as it turns, here's what's going on: God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZread channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....But there's some very good news that hasn't yet been understood by most people, and I'm here to deliver it once again....

@thebullybuffalo

4 жыл бұрын

@@kencusick6311 the universe eternally existing is an entirely logically possible. It's just that science has shown that the universe began. That's why it needs an explanation - empirically it needs to be explained but there's no logical necessity. The underlying principle is that everything that begins has a cause. If they universe began then it must have a cause. That is the age old argument.

@LastBastian

4 жыл бұрын

@@thebullybuffalo What you describe as: "science has shown the universe began" ....only means the universe began *in it's current state.* This does *not* eliminate the possibility of existence in other states or forms.

love the intro and ending music.

@thisaccountisold9258

3 жыл бұрын

I swear to god get it hahaha

@crakhaed

3 жыл бұрын

This is closer to truth

This is such a perfect series for me at this time of my life that I feel somewhere back there...somewhere that I can't remember...God and I created this series...only to come into recognition at the right time of need...thank you Father for such perfection in a seemingly imperfect world...Divine Love has always has met and always will meet..every human need.

@philippemartin6081

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, please be part of firts contac phone and may have to see each otters the offert it's on your side. Email me I give you my number philipmart166@gmail.com

@2msvalkyrie529

2 жыл бұрын

" God and you ?!......did he need your help..?

@2msvalkyrie529

2 жыл бұрын

" God and you ?!......did he need your help..?

Love it. The KZread medium and your website really bring out your treasure trove of interviews. I spend lots of time on both. Appreciate your way of always sharpening your questions, your constant wrestling with those you ask, others who are also deep obsessive thinkers in their own way. U highlight the nuanced differences that I find necessary if one wants to get CTT 🙂🌞😺🙉👻👽!

@arvinabramspics

Жыл бұрын

Dÿ

The ultimate question is not whether aliens exist or not, but whether God exists or not. God is the ultimate being, and confirmation of his existence would be the game changer.

If there were no humans on earth would god still exist?

@mrmetaphysics9457

4 жыл бұрын

Phil Robson, the answer to your question is mentioned in this video that is if you can get it understand!

@JAYDUBYAH29

4 жыл бұрын

Phil Robson nope

@triggerme2818

4 жыл бұрын

Your question presupposes the deity's existence.

@skatetoexplorevideos2477

4 жыл бұрын

yes to your answer. to me, god is the universe. that's how i roll. you can believe whatever you want.

@neffetSnnamremmiZ

4 жыл бұрын

While we have to go, God comes..

In this day and age of relativism, it's only fair to ask: Who's rationalizing---the believer, or the nonbeliever?

To be infinite and omnipotent God has to be present inside and outside everything. So scientifically God has to be everything without any exception.

@StallionFernando

2 жыл бұрын

No,

@anikettripathi7991

2 жыл бұрын

@@StallionFernando to be more precise energy and consciousness is everything. Energy also is product of absolute consciousness so consciousness is whole perceptible universe consciousness is component of absolute nothingness. We call that God, nirgun nirakar. Everything originated from that and disappears in that only in cyclic manners.

Knowledge of the Devine calls for mystical experience!

@chrisyoung5929

4 жыл бұрын

And how do you know the difference between "mystical experience" and a psychotic episode? If you have no evidence then it is not "Knowledge" but a fuzzy feeling you like.

@mrmetaphysics9457

4 жыл бұрын

@@chrisyoung5929 do you know if you are being rational right now?

@anthonycraig274

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrmetaphysics9457 Asking for evidence is probably the most rational thing to do.

In the absolute beginning I guess the original matter of the universe must have come from somewhere.

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

All is Thought in a Great Mind, Philip. Like a computer simulation, except NOT in a lifeless computer: in the SOURCE of Life Itself. If you want to know more, including the answer to the coronavirus - it's just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

@sanathansatya1667

3 жыл бұрын

When we assume the Beginning as ABSOLUTE we have to understand it as beyond Time , Space and From. It is neither matter nor non matter. It is beyond existence of the Universal laws. Everything appeared after that . That Absolute Nothingness which includes Everything is beyond our mental perception but not beyond Spiritual experience.

@stefanolacchin4963

3 жыл бұрын

The fact that our mind can't grasp a concept, doesn't mean something MUST have happened in a way we understand. As long as the fundamental randomness of some quantum effects is not disproved, and if spacetime and matter are emergent like some recent studies seem to suggest, causality can't be assumed blindly.

@sanathansatya1667

3 жыл бұрын

There can't a beginning for the Universe . If there is a beginingit should have started from Something .

How I love for humanity seen what I see, same of those places I don’t even know what I see. I know the reason we are here, the universe is like human process, we are in are on, the creator (light) plans life deep in darkness. In this life and the next one stay in the light.

These Lutheran theologians are really, really great. ( The first one was the best.) I think Dr. Kuhn has finally found the right answer to his lengthy investigation. The answer to his spiritual search is obvious. Dr. Kuhn should join the Lutheran denomination!!!

@StallionFernando

2 жыл бұрын

Lol no.

Crocodiles don't need to brush their teeth ! They don't need any maintenance. God must love crocodiles. Perfect design.

@rl7012

Жыл бұрын

Yes but atheists claim that crocodiles are the closest reptile relatives to birds believe it or not.

@tedgrant2

Жыл бұрын

@@rl7012 I seen a dragon fly. I even seen a house fly. But I've been done seen about everything when I see a crocodile fly.

@rl7012

Жыл бұрын

@@tedgrant2 🎶When I see a crocodile fly 🎵

This, your channel, is a wonderful way to reveal more and more to me, the theory, that each individual is the product of his influenced informations, education, experiences, and biological evolution. What does it has to do with God? A lot, God is religion, the word God is related with religion. The Creator has nothing to do with religion, in a sense that religion was make believe and written down by men. It's legitimate to believe if someone wants to believe as long as there is no true knowledge what is true. And it's also legitimate to doubt and search for the truth about God or a Creator. Most religious people lose their faith, when they lost someone they loved so much and they needed God to help and they were badly disappointed. That's the moment you doubt the existence of a taught God of love and kindness. I think the teachings, all kinds of teachings, have manipulated us to a worse way of life, but there's no evidence of a better contrary, unless we realize and learn new ways how to see our world with the true vision and not a told vision from a wrong perspective. We could then, come closer to the truth about the purpose of our being and maybe answer the question why our universe was created. The only one evidence that we have, is that everything has to be the way it is. For what reason, is an open question. We can observe an automation of everything, although within can changes happen, it's still the automation. Thankyou for your contribution.

Southgate is right in saying that a "creature" as the universe, needs to be contingent on God, in order to be a creation. Otherwise, something that needs nothing to be and exists by nature of its own essence, it is God and not a creature. Everything that comes to exist, it is contingent or dependent by definition in its coming to be and function by something else.

@khaledsarwar8130

4 жыл бұрын

Ale Martinez Rojas Yeah i’m pretty sure this is similar to Leibniz’s contingency argument

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

Are you ready to go beyond mere intellectual speculation? God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) My book explains fully, and my KZread channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus . And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

God intervenes by lending us His Voice to guide us out of it. And to ensure that this would ultimately happen, He placed His Voice in our minds. There it patiently waits for us to listen and follow.

I like how he said "it must be general in scope" 3:00 Can you imagine if "blessings" were individually tailor made? Divine Classism.. Im sure some actually believe this..

@rl7012

Жыл бұрын

They are both tailor made and general in scope. God can do specifics and tailor made and general all at the same time. Humans cannot do this so we don't think god can either, but God can.

There's nothing wrong here and God is fulfilling every moment in the universe. Nothing to intervene about. Peace be with you always.

@garychartrand7378

2 жыл бұрын

As any Spiritual Master would say " Everything is in a mess, but ALL is well".

This is almost a self-contradictory question. The word 'God' is usually taken to mean the creator of the universe, so if there is a 'God' to talk about in the first place they probably created the universe. Why then if some thinks 'God' can create a universe they can't modify it where and when they choose? The question really is "Do you think there is a God who created the universe or not?"

These two different perspectives "god created it perfect and does not need to intervene, comes before all sin" (1) vs. "god created it but needs to intervene and wants to teach his creation, to refine it" (2) - reminds me in quantum physics. There we can not decide whether the state of the system is generated by a direct signal from the subject (in an antirealistic way, like a creator)(2), or if the signal comes from the beginning of all causal chains (in a realistic way, like a creation)(1). Quantum formulism forbids this decision, says it is both, both different approaches with the same empirical results. 🤔

The question itself presupposes that it is a necessity that God needs to intervene in the physical universe. If you accept that God's purpose is for us to love him, then God need not necessarily intervene in the physical universe. He could simply sit back and soak up the love we send him in our prayers.

@StallionFernando

2 жыл бұрын

He intervenes constantly in order to have a proper personal relationship. Love is not a one way street.

The traditional Judaic/orthodox Christian/Platonic/Western answer to this question is that the act of creation itself is perpetually total interaction with the universe at all times, since God transcends the universe and time. So, the way the question is formulated, presupposing a superbeing that stands in relation to the universe in such a way that both are subject to a higher order of nature as the medium of interaction, is logically clearly not the traditional definition of the monotheistic creative God.

Hello, congratulations for your extraordinary work. I wanna ask you.. Are you an agnostic really? Thank you

Humanity require God intervention to remove sin through God nature as divine being.

I ask God what is his plan. If I don't let him lead me, something happens but in time, I have to go to this process of his plan again. I have to follow so I won't go in the same process. I try to understand his plan in my life so I won't be going through things again and again and learn what he wants.

God does it with radio waves, he has an RC unit similar to what RC cars have but much more godly and the batteries are always full charged.

@anthonycraig274

2 жыл бұрын

😂 after reading that I almost choked on my soup.

18:26. "God is really doing everything." I find that tantamount to saying ' There is really no nature, no things happening because that is the way they have to happen by their nature. So the world really is a stage. God is the stage and prop manager. No, not even that solid. More like a mirage. If it is a mirage at least God doesn't have to personally hoid up every refrigerator magnet in the universe.

I love closer to truth and it’s host Robert, but I can’t help but think this question of how can God intervene in the universe he created. It’s kinda silly if you believe he exist and is the creator of it. Then of course he can at will. I mean if you created something, wouldn’t you be able to interact or affect it at will in some way or fashion? 😳

Yes, any time the creator of creation wishes. But what would such an intervention look like, I think, is a better question. Have we thought through the real nature of our existence, does it look like we have a purpose, or a mission and would intervention be limited enough to try to help us along our path without jacking around too much with free will... would breaking the free will paradigm break the whole thing? We are not here and sentient for no reason.

Kudos -- 444 Gematria -- 🗽

It seems to me that we decide what God does. We want a God who loves us, therefore God loves us. We want a God who gives us nice things, therefore God gives us nice things. We want sinners to be punished for ever, therefore God punishes sinners for ever.

@rl7012

Жыл бұрын

Not really. It depends on how any person or religion see's God. People view God differently and project things onto Him. But do not mistake human projections for actual facts. God exists but not necessarily in the way that humans and religions have projected Him to be.

Was telepathy covered? I missed it.

The question "how could God intervene in the Universe" denotes a belief in separation. When one studies physics, biology or even theology (comparative religions) it is obvious that any separation is ultimately illusory. All is one. My suggestion is to read the Pratyabhijnahrdayam coupled to the teachings of Jesus or the Gospel of Thomas.

There is a plan. Just because our perspective is tiny and we don’t understand the seemingly nasty atrocities committed daily, we should not conclude that our father has rejected his creation. We should remember that the enemy adulterated his creation at the beginning. Intelligent design from our father is beyond the puny claims from science and their convoluted evolution fantasy.

How God intervene - he must as everyone comply the laws of Nature.

Like physical matter, energy evolves. Consciousness arose and it began to create itself through matter.

@StallionFernando

2 жыл бұрын

Neither of those statements are true.

@brydonjesse

2 жыл бұрын

@@StallionFernando you are a thing of phisical matter, "you" evolved. Consiousness evolved by creating you.

@StallionFernando

2 жыл бұрын

@@brydonjesse ok, explain to me how life began or got to earth?

@brydonjesse

2 жыл бұрын

@@StallionFernando okay. Consiousness was thinking about what it was for a very long time, until it thought about something else. It thought about that thing alot moving it and multiplying it creating the fabric of the universe, space and time. As it thought about the thing it combined that special stuff in stars and blew them up (light is a portal or conduit of consiousness) creating the first few elements we see. As time passed and masses climped together stars formed again and exploded again creating the rest of the elements. Our sun and the stuff around had just the right mix or temp, magnetic sphear, and volcanic activity. Many elements mixed in layer upon layer of sediment small chains of molecules collected and assembled in the salt, water, and muck. From there forward thinking drove our precursor forms further and further looking toward the future more and more. Now we think we have individuality, our own consiousness, and that we are separate. Every now and again one gets a glimpse of the true nature of reality ✨ every now and again

Well, from my perspective, if He has, it hasn't been for the better.

Up to 7:29 the Herr Professor describes a deistic God. Then it's "God relates to" the world. I ask you, can that 'relates to' have any meaning at all if it doesn't mean some kind of intervention? Can God intervene in the world without contradicting what we think of as the natural world? I think not.

If there was a god, it could very well be the case that he would intervene with reality in the same way we intervene with a movie. He could've made it, watched it, and now we're just sitting in his closet blu-ray collection while he's out watching and making other, seperate movies.

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

You're on the right track, Nando. God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience (or "movie") that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams (movies). My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZread channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

@Ndo01

4 жыл бұрын

@@tomrhodes1629 Wow thanks. I actually recently derived that same cosmological view independently.

Were not you guys said we found God particle and we split it?

If God is timeless and action is necessarily temporal how can God act?

@neffetSnnamremmiZ

4 жыл бұрын

Timeless means not to be not in time. God is already, is looking from future back on us, in the other side God will come, so it is both. It already is and will come..

@51elephantchang

4 жыл бұрын

@@neffetSnnamremmiZ Looking is temporal.

@neffetSnnamremmiZ

4 жыл бұрын

@@51elephantchang Yes, and God is temporal and not, because it can pull itself out of the nothing..

3:17 Is a blessing from God an intervention?

How could a bit try to understand the computer engineer?

Because everything is his there is no one or thing higher

❤ Very good 👍🏼

To believe in God is to believe in sentiment. To take the anti-theistic stance is to believe in meaning, ie, the meaning of words. My definition of sentiment is, what should be true is true.

Humans initially had relied on their imaginations to explain the world and its phenomena as they had no other tools. They have done a great job. We, believers and the non-believers who live in third millennium, are still dealing with their legendary work in different ways and methods. Is it bad that we still attached to the childhood of human mind? it depends on how and why!

@jlmer616

4 жыл бұрын

Fatin Noor I agree. I would add that all religions want and have written into their texts a God what provides results, that is, a God that will free them from bondage, will be on their side when enemies lurk, will bless them with prosperity, will be faithful to them as long as they praise and believe in him and most importantly a God who promises another chance at life. What if God didn’t do any of those things? What would people feel about such a God? We have basically conjured up a God that is tailored to satisfy our needs.

@goldentwilight1944

4 жыл бұрын

Except the peculiar thing is that we still find a deeper meaning in child-like imagination and legends than the modern tools can provide. They have created a new legend and we are still like children.

@duaneholcomb8408

2 жыл бұрын

@@jlmer616 it'd sounds like you are trying hard to disprove a thing. Rather than just look at what might be.

Forgive me if I'm wrong. I"m no expert here, but as men of faith. How can any of them answer questions without reverting to scripture? Without doing so makes it 100% their take on the question. Granted, scripture doesn't answer everything, but it has some answers about what God does.

@skiptalbot

7 ай бұрын

It would still be 100% their take, since interpretations of scripture are entirely subjective. That's because scripture is often ambiguous, contradictory even, and one has no choice but to see it through the lens of their own language, context, and understanding of the world, all of which are completely different than the original authors'.

Finally, Robert is starting to realize(?) there is circular logic in the arguments we hear here. He even says so. Not sure what it will take for him to realize that they are IN FACT circular logic based arguments.

@domcasmurro2417

4 жыл бұрын

These are old videos i think. In fact he is more theist in the most recent videos.

@dankuchar6821

4 жыл бұрын

You really don't think that Robert understands all the circular reasoning? He's just interviewing and asking questions. I'm sure someone of his intellectual at the two can recognize circular reasoning.

@SandipChitale

4 жыл бұрын

@@dankuchar6821 I hope so too. I wish he pushed back on those circular arguments a little more if he wants get value out of them.

@dankuchar6821

4 жыл бұрын

@@SandipChitale I think their arguments are lame personally. But my understanding of God is probably just a lot different than there's.

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. Here's the real deal, Sandip: God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZread channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

Dear Mr. Kuhn, There is no meaning in all these concepts I analyse, viz. "Free will, consciousness, Truth, ... ", so long as I haven't defined "I" as a particular sequence of particles and specify a definite criterion of proof related to satisfaction of my needs to verify the accuracy of the theory I assume as to the origin of those particles.

I love your channel but I can't listen to it when you have ads throughout. I listen at night and it's disconcerting to have these ad-interruptions.

@anthonycraig274

2 жыл бұрын

Well buy KZread premium, he has to fund this with ads.

@garychartrand7378

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonycraig274 True, but I aspire to a world without money and therefore no need for ads (or taxes or hunger).

@anthonycraig274

2 жыл бұрын

@@garychartrand7378 So what is value? What has value? How do you eat? How does a non economy work? What about women? Is it going to be about good looks, or good protector? Sounds like we were here before, when we were animals.

@garychartrand7378

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonycraig274 All very good questions but please don't compare us to animals. They behave with much more integrity than do humans. This discussion will demand all your imagination possible even though I will be dealing with a LOT of facts. Fact 1: there are two types of people - non believers and believers. They can also be described as being who they 'think' they are - JUST a human(Ego/Fear) OR who they REALLY are (loving fearless eternal souls). Love (eternal fearless souls) will Always Always do the right thing. Fear(Ego) confuses the mind and is the source of ALL heartache and misery on the planet. One of the factors that makes the concept of a world without money difficult for some is their level of consciousness and awareness. Another is their beliefs. If you believe that something is not possible - then it cannot be had. If you believe that it is possible - then it is completely doable. We are creators and life has no choice but to show up the way we believe it will. From a Spiritual point of view, there are 3 truths that need to be realized that are presently required for a higher consciousness and awareness. 1) We are all ONE. What hurts you hurts us ALL. What helps you heals us ALL. 2) There is more than enough for EVERYONE. This is easy to see if all resources were shared equitably. 3) in this life you have NO obligations. You have ONLY opportunities. You did enough by just being born. Is this enough for a starting point in our conversation? The subject is vast but with a little imagination, it is doable. Please give me some feedback to this so far. I need it to know what direction to go from here. PS. I am a believer. I have no choice. God has worked miracles through me with witnesses and many more without witnesses. I interact with Him everyday. In January 2008 He gave me a job description that says " I am sending you out by the Power of my Spirit to Release those bound by Fear, to Proclaim Forgiveness, and to Show Love to ALL men". I don't have to like you but it is necessary that I love you. The greatest stumbling block for mankind is all it's Egos and the Fear that is inherent with Egos. I look forward to a conversation or debate with you - your choice. Bless you.

Fussing about the god question is of limited utility. It would be more productive to ask how (and why) anything at all can come from nothing. The reason that this question should take precedence is because God himself can only be possible if the void allows it. What is it that compels virtual particles to precipitate from the void? What characteristics must virtual particles acquire, before they become the atoms and molecules that manifest, across time, as matter? Once we satisfy ourselves about the nature of the void, the god question becomes almost incidental. If God exists, then he is beyond our comprehension anyways. To believe or not to believe should be of zero concern, as it was for the Buddha.

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

You're correct about the uselessness of speculation, Troof. And here's some information that comes from BEYOND the realm of speculation, because it didn't arise from a mere human mind: God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) My book explains fully, and my KZread channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

0:25 A God who does nothing is not a God. Arthur, the atheist, says that is a very profound insight.

If you make a creation that only continues to exist while you sustain it - it's not much of a creation.

@rl7012

Жыл бұрын

Not really. God could make a self sustaining one, or he could make one that needs Him to sustain it. We don't know which one this is.

Does God exist or not? I think the better question would be "Why do people believe God exist?"

@bazstrutt8247

4 жыл бұрын

Books In Review Cognitive closure

@JAYDUBYAH29

4 жыл бұрын

Books In Review precisely

@Lolux1701

4 жыл бұрын

Too bad that this video isn't about wether god exists or not.

@lordbunbury

4 жыл бұрын

Because it’s a plausible answer to all kinds of existential reasoning and angst. People are religious because religiousness helped our ancestors be ‘more fit’ to survive and have offspring.

@myothersoul1953

4 жыл бұрын

@@Lolux1701 Think about this, the episode begins with the Host asking a question about god. Next he asks the question to myriad god believers and gets a bunch of different answers. It ends with the host saying he doesn't even know if god exists. He listened to what they had to say and was unconvinced... what's that about?

God free will create the universe through which it has independent existence.

The music is so so bad. Who made that decision? Ugh.

For example, the zoonosis of the corona virus is the logical consequence of our (unworthy) behavior (towards the living), and this is the same as the (direct or indirect) "will of God". "God" is the life itself ("I am the life!") which can pull itself even out of the nothing, and it organizes itself, for which we are something like building bricks. It "speaks" even in a bush to us and says: 'Do u know, who I am? I am the eternal life!' And it said what it is going to do. So, how Newton warned: be careful with your judgment and conclusions about the future abilities of the living! In science the real living is already subtracted from the calculation! ☝️

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

On the right track, Neffets. God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZread channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

The earth has been rotating regularly and revolving around the sun, I don't think gravity alone can solve it, maybe this is what God is doing

🌿🌿🌿 GOD IS A BODILESS MIND AND GOD IS DREAMING THE UNIVERSE 🌿🌿🌿

Problem when people talk about God. People do not define what God is. Then make assertions about God as they understand God. It is not rational.

God isn't related to the world the world is related to God.

Never ever indulge with the believer, all because they lacked leeway to manoeuvre their primal thoughts in their mind..

@StallionFernando

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, you need to be reasonable and logical to believe in God, secularist lack reason.

If there is a God, it doesn't intervene in this world at all.

@dankuchar6821

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe God can't intervene in the world. I don't think God can mess with free will. He can't do that. That's our choice. We are free to choose our own destiny and God can't interfere with that. But perhaps, God can help us, and instruct us, and show us good things to do. I think of God as like the coach on a basketball team. We are the players on the team and we are on the court of life, God can't interfere with the game, all the coach can do is coach from the sideline. The outcome of the game is up to us. The magic, is that somehow God still manages to always have the winning team even though he is stuck with imperfect players like us.

@ingenuity168

4 жыл бұрын

@@dankuchar6821 if there's a God, it had faced a lot of failed teams such as all the extinct races of hominoids, and other species of living things and who knows this present race of humans will fail too and go extinct.

@goldentwilight1944

4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget God isn't running things down here Satan is!.......... we don't need an intervention we need a rescue operation!

@dankuchar6821

4 жыл бұрын

@@ingenuity168 Again, if God is eternal, then death is just a temporal thing that only affects our physical bodies. If we have souls, then God doesn't care if we die. Our souls live on.

@dankuchar6821

4 жыл бұрын

@@goldentwilight1944 I think all God can do is talk to us. Satan too. We just need to listen to the right one and act accordingly.

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If God exists these guys are full of it - If God does not exist - these guys are still full of it.

God makes sense because God is the essential nature of making sense, that is the essential nature of the process of the nervous system of the human species, through the human brain, trying to understand the physical universe in which that nervous system exists. If God is the description of that process God will always exist, and its existence will always make sense. I'm not saying this is the case, it's just an observation.

@goldentwilight1944

4 жыл бұрын

And a very intelligent observation I might add.

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

Here's some stuff for you to ponder, Fernando: God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZread channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

Robert, "God" isn't necessarily less powerful because He chose to make the universe so that it doesn't run on its own. It's not a matter of power, Robert, but of choice. If, as some say, God (hardly a name) grants freedom to the "Creation," that itself is a way of letting it run on its own. In the course of running on its own, however, the universe might tend to meander off course from the overall "plan" He might have had for it---a sort-of "destiny" toward which it's overall advancing. Thus, God would need to intervene by readjusting it. What if humans try to create a Dyson Sphere or Swarm---destroying planets in the process? Since the "God" entity apparently created stars to shine and planets to circle around them, it's obvious that He would interfere with such human undertakings. Or, when it comes to the LGBTQIA. If the "God" entity created us, as all other mammals, to be male and female, don't you think "God" would interfere with any attempt by humans to alter the male-female sexual arrangement? The purpose? It alone enables us to reproduce naturally---without scientific equipment? What about the ongoing projects to establish a new world of cybernetic humans under the control of artificial Superintelligence---a mechanical creation in control, for that matter, of nuclear weapons---it's obvious God would stop such a world from coming to fruition. In the case of the ongoing threat to billions of innocents of being destroyed by nuclear weapons, many would agree that the case of glowing lights hovering over the silos at Malmstrom AFB in the 1980s is a case of God demonstrating He has the power to shut down such powerful human weapons at will. Yes, if the universe was created by a God-Being, it will intervene to the extent to protect that which it spent billions of years creating.

@rl7012

Жыл бұрын

It didn't take God billions of years to create all this, He did it instantly. God is not time bound. Also please don't call God 'it'.

We would love if u someday discuss God with some islamic scholar...n shaikh hamza yusuf from usa may b one

God is one's connection to the universe. When the connection is formalised by religion, that to me is called god. Looking for god as a separate entity to put on top of science, I personally think is a misinterpretation. To me, science is our best interpretation of how God acts. The choice of using God as an entity to define ourselves, to me stems from how conscious, people feel that universe connection should be. The components of connection are conscious so it doesn't seem so outlandish an interpretation, to use god as a conscious definition of connection. But this interpretation does invalidate the question.

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, Chris, God is not something separate from anything or anybody. For God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZread channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

@TimeGhost7

4 жыл бұрын

@@tomrhodes1629 The universe is in our minds, as how could we know of it any other way, but it would stand to reason our minds interpret something external. A duality of existence which needs both observer and world to be. As we talk in the world, we are connecting the references we have with each other. Time exists because we perceive it existing and make our definition. The limitless is a dream through hope. If it cannot be truly known or referenced as we are, how relevantly can we speak of it? Words sew the connections to common references between conversing people. They can illuminate, but we are bound by what we know always. There is much misunderstanding as our language fails us in connecting to others. I checked out your videos and found you a bit too certain for my tastes. I believe truth is distributed among the many. Different bits from different people shaping one's own internal world. I cannot distinguish your truth from what you proclaim is the deeper truth easily in your videos. For example, cancer prefers acidic environments, but to say baking soda is a cure for cancer, I feel makes an overreaching claim. We hold the partial truth in ourselves and we must connect with others in order to make it truer. Much to our frustration, we lose simplicity to be able to say clear things when we do this. But all knowledge helps and I thank you for your insight even as I choose to go my own way. I had not considered body pH levels before.

Psychedelics may provide a viable empirical platform for this exploratory investigation.

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

Psychedelics do indeed help a person to see the illusory nature of perception. And they can give you insights, for example, to the fact that everything is alive - everything in this Universe is conscious. But psychedelics won't answer the most important question, the question of WHY; the question of MEANING. But as one who has found that answer I can tell you that "God" is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) My book explains fully, and my KZread channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

@bipolarbear9917

4 жыл бұрын

@@tomrhodes1629 You are just another scammer, trying to seduce the gullible into buying your stupid book, or clicking on your stupid channel. The real truth is no-one knows the answers, and if they say they do they're no better than charlatan Benny Hinn, David Icke, Klee Irwin or any other con artist, even fraudster Donald Trump himself. You should be ashamed of yourself.

How could He not?

It's always entertaining to watch the metaphorical equivalent of amoebas trying to figure out what exists above and outside of their petri dish.

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

Good analogy, Seeds. And here's some information that I received, not by trying to figure things out, but by simply DESIRING TRUTH. And it was given to me: "God" is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZread channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....But there's some very good news that hasn't yet been understood by most people, and I'm here to deliver it once again....

@stefanolacchin4963

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomrhodes1629 All behold the sheer arrogance of this particular amoeba.

@xtaticsr2041

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a little bit more I think. If you take infinite stack of turtles analogy, figuring out if we are in a petri dish is just one turtle below but what we really want to know is where these turtles even exist, what/how they exist and if the stack is actually infinite. I could be wrong of course.

@missusbarkdog

Жыл бұрын

Then He turned towards the heaven when it was ˹still like˺ smoke, saying to it and to the earth, ‘Submit, willingly or unwillingly.’ They both responded, ‘We submit willingly.’

How could God intervene is such a silly question....if there is God then he can do any fcking thing he wants to do, and no way we can understand how.

@skiptalbot

7 ай бұрын

It's a silly question because it's baseless speculation from those trying to make sense of their religious beliefs. It's like asking a group of children how Santa Claus (God) can get to every house in one night, or fit down every chimney (intervene in the world). We can't even establish there is some kind of god, let alone what, if any, limits it would have.

@jjharvathh

7 ай бұрын

@@skiptalbot Yes, or trying to push on others their scientific beliefs. We dont know things we do not know.

What if we are gods thoughts now, and this is how he thinks, this universe.

Is God simply the great observer allowing creation to flourish or sink as it will? Humans may mistakenly believe God cares what we do and how we act.

@mikeq5807

3 жыл бұрын

Or perhaps people have a misconception about God.

I believe a used car salesman could convince me of a deity before these guys

@Lolux1701

4 жыл бұрын

This video isn't about convincing people of the existence of god. It rather presupposes his existence to inquire more how he (metaphysically) could intervene in the world. Have you even watched the video?

@who1989

4 жыл бұрын

A used car salesman could convince me a deity intervenes in the universe before these guys. Better bud?

@who1989

4 жыл бұрын

@S Gloobal God of the gaps is an obvious logical fallacy. The onus is on those making extraordinary and supernatural claims. (I.e, God)

@ferdinandkraft857

4 жыл бұрын

@S Gloobal I'm just waiting for a theist to tell me why there is a God instead of none.

@gavinhurlimann2910

4 жыл бұрын

@@ferdinandkraft857: To be fair many theists don't bother with KZread atheists.

michio Kaku's take on consciousness "consciousness, and that is: Consciousness is all the feedback loops necessary to create a model of yourself in space, in relationship to others, and in time, especially forward in time."... (check claustrum)..

@philo3838

4 жыл бұрын

Michio should stop kakking

@dennistucker1153

4 жыл бұрын

Michio Kaku's model of consciousness and mine are very similar. Mine does not directly reference time and space like his. Love this subject.

@zerototalenergy150

4 жыл бұрын

@@dennistucker1153 also, Arvin Ash on consciousness is very interesting..

@dennistucker1153

4 жыл бұрын

@@zerototalenergy150 I'm a big fan of Arvin Ash too.

@zerototalenergy150

4 жыл бұрын

@@dennistucker1153 👍

God did not intervine nor bless us when he took our angel son! I'm pissed with G O D

@antiNuetron

3 жыл бұрын

Death is an awful enemy for sure, but I hope I can convince you that GOD didn't take your son. In fact he promises to resurrect or bring back to life everyone who has died. Not in heaven, but right back here on earth, as a human. Sickness, old age and death was never Gods purpose for humans. Satan, Adam and Eve's rebellion caused that, but God immediately set a plan in motion to undo what they did. So you will see your son again. Can I show you the scriptures and reasoning that support this?

@joeprogrock

3 жыл бұрын

@@antiNuetron you can try

@antiNuetron

3 жыл бұрын

@@joeprogrock First of all I’ll say that I know that this doesn’t seem possible. I didn’t believe the first time I heard. It took a few years for me to fully come to understand and believe it, But I’ll try to keep this simple. Adam and Eve were created to live forever. God warned them though that they would die if they ate the fruit from one tree. Genesis 2:17 The tree just represented Gods right to say what is right and wrong. So when they ate the fruit, they in effect were saying that they could decide for themselves what was right and wrong and they didn’t need God. God could have just destroyed them and started over, But they wouldn’t have solved the issues that they raised or whether they could live without God, so God in effect said “ok, you think you can live without me, I’ll allow time to see if you can, But because they disobeyed they eventually did die just as God said they would. Since they were the first two humans, they passed on that imperfection To all of their children up until our time. Everyone now dies because of what they did, because we inherited sickness, old age and death from them. Since that wasn’t Gods original purpose for us, He set in motion a plan to end it. Thats where Jesus comes in. He stayed faithful as a perfect man until his death to undo What Adam did. God promises to bring the dead, including sinners, back to life on earth (not heaven) for a chance to live again. Psalm 37:29; Acts 24:15 There is a lot more to this, so if you want to understand better check out this article: www.jw.org/en/publications/books/good-news-from-god/what-hope-for-the-dead/

@StallionFernando

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps like most Christians you have a false perception of God. God never promised you would not suffer in this life, in fact most of the characters are plagued with suffering. It will either draw you closer to him or further away, if you push God away then all your pain and suffering becomes completely meaningless, only by seeking him out with suffering have a proper significant purpose.

What the hell is it with God anyway.

@jsteiner8548

4 жыл бұрын

Rhetorical question?

@triggerme2818

4 жыл бұрын

@@jsteiner8548 It might as well be. Nobody can answer it.

@stinkertoy4310

4 жыл бұрын

Different vid

The biggest barrier to the reality of any God is that it is inconceivable that an immaterial entity could create or interact with the material.

@jy1733

4 жыл бұрын

Do you always trust your intuitions? Are quantum mechanics and General Relativity intuitive to you? Based on research, it's more plausible that this Universe had a beginning, rather than being eternal. Which is more plausible? 1. The non temporal, non corporeal, eternal God created the Universe or 2. The Universe created itself.

@stinkertoy4310

4 жыл бұрын

Interact telepathically, and without our awareness. “It was just a thought”. 😬

@86645ut

4 жыл бұрын

@@jy1733 Feelings and intuitions are not reliable in understanding reality. The brain easily can fool us. It was intuitive that objects are solid, the Sun revolves around the Earth, etc. Research does show that it is more plausible that OUR universe had a beginning BUT QM and GR point strongly to the plausibility of an eternal multiverse. This makes it plausible that OUR universe spontaneously came from quantum inflation. Do you question claims? How do you verify that your beliefs are true?

@86645ut

4 жыл бұрын

@@stinkertoy4310 , it's still inconceivable. We only know our physical/material reality. There is no evidence for anything else. Put that against the inconceivable and the theist has quite an uphill chore in supporting belief in a supernatural.

@PaulHoward108

4 жыл бұрын

You're an immaterial entity who is identifying with matter because of intimately interacting with it. The power of interaction is "prāṇa," which is explained here: www.ashishdalela.com/2017/01/28/what-is-prana/

What is the difference between nature and our conception of nature? However that is, God intervening in the universe destroys nature, or our conception of nature. So, what would a non-natural universe have to be, in the broadest sense?

I'm agnostic but David Bentley Hart should be in those episodies.

@andrebrown8969

4 жыл бұрын

Agnostics? Take a side man.

@domcasmurro2417

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrebrown8969 🎵 I always pick my side. 🎵 Because i tend to be right.

@tomrhodes1629

4 жыл бұрын

Dom, you would probably enjoy my KZread video "Why Agnostics Are Wise." I used to be agnostic. But now, check this out: "God" is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZread channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....But there's some very good news that hasn't yet been understood by most people, and I'm here to deliver it once again....

Befor i watche this video..i belive that god and rekigion are human creation....human need to give an answer to his existans and by beliving in a super natural god he can explane his mortality..his univers...his reality. Every culture and in all human history god and the mitilogy about god was and still is a human topic that is in itself complex and mistyrios and all this is a resolt from human nature.

OK, between Issac Newton and that guy, if I had to chose, I would side with Isaac.

Alla willing!

For God not to be God, God could not do anything. If God does not exist ,there is nothing to be done. Assuming God did not create the universe then God should not do anything with the universe. Not what! Not how!

God has already intervened in our lives.

So God is basically some kind of a Master Programmer & his code has some bugs, he is debugging as he goes along.. but the question is who created God & who created the creator of God & who created the creator of his creator & on & on..

@jedi4049

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing past God. Always is and was.