If China wants to keep confronting japan about Japan's WWII sins in Asia and Japan's reluctance to acknowledge them in their textbooks, China has to also get their textbooks right by acknowledging their sins.

@condorX2

4 жыл бұрын

@edgelord69 You even said it yourself because there is more, but how many more to be exact? It will be intriguing if you able to find out the real answer behind it, from start to finish. Same goes for tiananmen square massacre. We all know it happened. What I wanna know is, how much do you know? To test how much you really know, try answer the following questions. It should be easy for you right? 1. Can you tell me how many PLA soldiers got killed before the shooting begin? 2. How many vehicles got burned? 3. How long did the government allow the protesters to protest? 4. When the tanks start rolling in, which direction were they facing? 5. Which directions did the tanks faces when they meet Tankman? And finally 6. Why won't the Tank commander just run over Tankman when he try to drop them? But instead, the tank commander stopped, opened his tank hatch and had a chat with Tankman?

@condorX2

4 жыл бұрын

@edgelord69 I know about the revolution, I'm just wondering if you know the reasons on why so many people have to die? I even agreed with you on the death counts on my above post. What I wanna know is, how much do you really know from start to finish about China Revolution? The causes and effects. The pros and cons. After that, can you answer the tiananmen square massacre questions too? I really wanna know how knowledgeable you're.

@DavidS_Tan

4 жыл бұрын

Which China? Republic of China or Soviet 'China'

@potatoprist3210

3 жыл бұрын

@@condorX2 from wat i cold see some of the information cold be biast 1 i don't think that Wikilinks is a credabel source 2 Some of the videos seam more pro chines government then anithing so provably cold have bin manipulated in a form 3 considering that any mention of the protests are censored in china 4 i was also confused when i serched tiamant square massacer ( im sorry if my english is bad but there you go )

@Khan_2025

3 жыл бұрын

You have to attribute all your mistakes to China. huh huh.

I watched a documentary in 2 parts about what happened in Tiananmen Square. It's horrible to think these young people died for democracy. They were killed with weapons made by the people through an army saying they were fighting for the people.

JUSTICE FOR TIANANMEN VICTIMS. NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.

@rolandboeing

2 жыл бұрын

@@fairiesnmermaids5424 Do you mean Nanjing China ? Use to be the capital of China but transfered in Beijing , Peking where is the forbidden city !

@wah5018

2 жыл бұрын

STOP LYING. Why do you joke this? Are you making fun of our China? You think something happen in that year but you keep joking. Nothing happen and our government is trusted. childish. Shame on you.

@yap5995

2 жыл бұрын

@@wah5018 brainwashed slave

@janeking8065

2 жыл бұрын

-9999999 social credit

@lancetamama3674

2 жыл бұрын

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I’m so sorry. This all started with love and inspiration. And ended sadly.

@litchi4507

5 жыл бұрын

Instigation by manipulators no different from what they do nowadays using the Internet.

@OgallalaKnowhow

5 жыл бұрын

@@litchi4507 - Nonsense conspiracy talk. They were real people who didn't want to live in a one party state any longer.

@litchi4507

5 жыл бұрын

@@OgallalaKnowhow Then asked them to migrate to your place. Some of them were troublemakers. They did not represent the majority of the rest of the people. Violent mob was not the solution.

@muyun9525

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah,So cruel and evil Dictator Deng Xiaoping(鄧小平)

@OgallalaKnowhow

5 жыл бұрын

@@litchi4507 What violent mob? All the footage that is available shows peaceful protestors. I always thought mass demonstrations was part of Chinese political culture? We don't know what the majority of people's thoughts are on the absolute authority of the CCP. If you demonstrate against your government, you'll get sent to a reeducation camp, or worse, and taught to know better.

1989 Tianenmen Square Massacre: *exists* Chinese government: You didn't see anything.

@gxmei5656

5 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests#Deaths_in_Tiananmen_Square_itself 'could not find enough evidence to suggest that a massacre took place on the Square itself' 'there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square itself' 'did not observe any mass firing of weapons into the crowds of the square itself' 'most of the troops which entered the square were armed only with anti-riot gear' also www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8555142/Wikileaks-no-bloodshed-inside-Tiananmen-Square-cables-claim.html ‘Wikileaks: cables from the United States embassy in Beijing have shown there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square’ ‘Protesters who were still in the square when the army reached it were allowed to leave after negotiations with martial law troops’

@Jimmy-lm2eg

5 жыл бұрын

@@gxmei5656 Hmmmm... Wikipedia: Tiananmen Square Massacre really Happened Wikileaks: Tiananmen Square Massacre never Happened. No wonder why Julian was arrested. Tiananmen Square Massacre really happens. The "Never Happened has become the Meme.

@Jimmy-lm2eg

5 жыл бұрын

Here is another meme: Mentioning about Tiananmen Square Massacre: *Exists* CCP 50 Cent Army Brigade: *IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE*

@gxmei5656

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jimmy-lm2eg Wikipedia: Tiananmen Square Massacre never Happened "subsequently journalists have acknowledged that most of the deaths occurred outside of the Square in western Beijing. Several people who were situated around the square that night, including former Beijing bureau chief of The Washington Post Jay Mathews[e] and CBS correspondent Richard Roth[f] reported that while they had heard sporadic gunfire, they could not find enough evidence to suggest that a massacre took place on the Square itself."

@gxmei5656

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jimmy-lm2eg there is no image or video of Tiananmen Square Massacre on 6.4.1989, not a single one. at least 3 of the protest leaders claimed that they didn't see any one killed in that night. but I don't deny there were conflicts and casualties outside of the square during the late period of the protest

There’s no war in Ba Sing Se.

@lemurman7978

2 жыл бұрын

Bing chillin

@xDeibu

2 жыл бұрын

+100 Credit

History will eventually repeat itself. You can't learn from a past that did not exist, or in this case, kept hidden/secret.

@QuantumFengShui

5 жыл бұрын

OF JUNE 3-4 EVENTS ON TIANANMEN SQUARE 1. CONFIDENTIAL - ENTIRE TEXT. 2. SUMMARY DURING A RECENT MEETING, A LATIN AMERICAN DIPLOMAT AND HIS WIFE PROVIDED POLOFF AN ACCOUNT OF THEIR MOVEMENTS ON JUNE 3-4 AND THEIR EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT OF EVENTS AT TIANANMEN SQUARE. ALTHOUGH THEIR ACCOUNT GENERALLY FOLLOWS THOSE PREVIOUSLY REPORTED, THEIR UNIQUE EXPERIENCES PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INSIGHT AND CORROBORATION OF EVENTS IN THE SQUARE. THEY WERE ABLE TO ENTER AND LEAVE THE SQUARE SEVERAL TIMES AND WERE NOT HARASSED BY TROOPS. REMAINING WITH STUDENTS BY THE MONUMENT TO THE PEOPLE'S HEROES UNTIL THE FINAL WITHDRAWAL, THE DIPLOMAT SAID THERE WERE NO MASS SHOOTINGS OF STUDENTS IN THE SQUARE OR AT THE MONUMENT. END SUMMARY.

@MrKewlhanz

5 жыл бұрын

A very intelligent conclusion.

@wilfredonieves5818

4 жыл бұрын

Its repeating now

@dkverma3872

3 жыл бұрын

@@QuantumFengShui 是的，继续相信这种宣传；当您的国家变得像朝鲜时，您将有一天获得一些知识

@ferrychomer1551

3 жыл бұрын

Same thing with our statues civil war

U got: -69,696,969 social credit

Reminder: Never underestimate a human's capacity to fight for the system of their own enslavement.

Brave lady ....willing to talk openly

Selective Amnesia: Remember Japanese Rule of China and European Drug wars very lucidly but no memory of the Tiananmen Square Massacre or invasion and occupation of Tibet, Cultural Revolution. PRC has selective amnesia over the crimes of CPC since 1949.

@milkybar06

5 жыл бұрын

Remember invasion of Tibet, South Korea and Vietnam.

@Sabundy

5 жыл бұрын

@@milkybar06 China invaded Tibet and Vietnam, but they did not invade South Korea. You need to check your facts on the Korean war. North Korea invaded the South, and China only got involved later when the Americans illegally crossed the Yualong river and effectively invaded China. That was when China got involved to push America back down to the 38th parallel.

@condorX2

4 жыл бұрын

I learned so much from yall discussion. Please tell me what you think. Check this out. GX Mei: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests#Deaths_in_Tiananmen_Square_itself 'could not find enough evidence to suggest that a massacre took place on the Square itself' 'there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square itself' 'did not observe any mass firing of weapons into the crowds of the square itself' 'most of the troops which entered the square were armed only with anti-riot gear' also www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8555142/Wikileaks-no-bloodshed-inside-Tiananmen-Square-cables-claim.html ‘Wikileaks: cables from the United States embassy in Beijing have shown there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square’ ‘Protesters who were still in the square when the army reached it were allowed to leave after negotiations with martial law troops’ Amidat: The government let them sit there for 6 weeks. The FACT is that rioters began beating and killing soldiers... That's when the shooting started. This might explain why there were bloody corpse outside on the streets and not inside the square. The attacking of police officers remind me of the Hk protestors, which can found on the link below. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lHxllLejic_SkqQ.html They're so freaking similar, and the hk protest have been going for the 16th weeks. And here is a video where the Tiananmen square protestors went home safety. kzread.info/dash/bejne/k66EwcmNgKiyj7Q.html

@flamingfrancis

3 жыл бұрын

@@condorX2 What, exactly, is "YALL discussion"...put it into everyday English which is the general language of discussion here. Secondly you can produce as much drivel as you wish but the facts are that almost EVERY global media operation, Western and Eastern, has archived files from what happened. I saw a lot of those times and the previous decades of Communist China and the events of that day are indellibly marked and will NEVER leave my mind. I would suggest most Chinese patriots of the times who had family members killed / murdered will also never forget despite the attempts of modern day brainwashed fools to do otherwise.

@shingyanling1856

3 жыл бұрын

Thats why hongkongers like me hate china gov

Photo from tiananmen massacre: *appers* Emperor Pooh: Photoshop!

@casperix3741

3 жыл бұрын

It is photoshop though. Nothing indicates that that photo is real

@financier57

3 жыл бұрын

@@casperix3741 i hope this comment is a joke

@casperix3741

3 жыл бұрын

@@financier57 It isn't, I'm serious

@financier57

3 жыл бұрын

@@casperix3741 m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/o6Vs3KiFecnad84.html is this enough footage?

@thebuddah1253

3 жыл бұрын

@@casperix3741 Comrade. We appretiate the attempt but its better to not look like a fool. Simply saying "its not real" is good enough to confuse the capitaoist pigs.

What has not been mentioned is the arrest and imprisonment of more than ten thousand old relatives a few days ago, for seeking information about their imprisoned relatives whereabouts and when will they be released, of the hundred thousand protesters imprisoned at the time of the massacre of thousands around theTianamen Square. Many of the relatives seeking to know where their imprisoned relatives are or even if they are still alive, are in their eighties, old ladies merely asking where their relatives are. Now, not only WHERE ARE THE PROTESTERS OF TIANAMEN SQ BEING HELD. BUT WHERE ARE THE TEN THOUSAND OLD RELATIVES BEING HELD. This posted by me on june the fifth 2019

@jeffgo8658

5 жыл бұрын

Labor gulags or a deep hole somewhere.

@CuongNguyen-le5ic

5 жыл бұрын

China's usual tactic, the sins of father will be paid by theirs family. North Korea also copied this, so if something happened, go after the family and threaten them.

@sermsaksongsiridej2090

5 жыл бұрын

Where were these relatives when their supposedly loved ones occupied the square for months ?

@user-re1my6jk2r

5 жыл бұрын

又开始以谣传谣了？

@link2442

5 жыл бұрын

@@sermsaksongsiridej2090 what is your assumption taking you?

Look at how they have covered this up after 1989 and seriously ask yourself, would it be that hard to cover up a global pandemic today?

@strawdemindset

4 жыл бұрын

They already got the name changed to Covid-19 to remove association with China, its going to be easy to erase this whole year from their history

@addison2447

4 жыл бұрын

like Beloved Trump? lets go baby~ Trump 2020 we need 4 more years of Trump to save the world from Harmony~

@janinasimons8533

4 жыл бұрын

@@strawdemindset check UK gov health page they new about covid19 back in 2010 and SARS 2, work that out....

@brothermanben7140

3 жыл бұрын

@@janinasimons8533 thats just the date the page was first published, if you go on the page it will say when it was last updated

@janinasimons8533

3 жыл бұрын

@@brothermanben7140 That was my point, the first date published was 2010 and copyrighted, so how did they know there would be a covid 2019 in 2010???

-999999999999 Social Credit be like:

I wonder if people in China, outside of Beijing, even knew about this horrible event.

@user-hm1pl7lb6f

Жыл бұрын

现在才知道

Talking to Chinese people about Tiananmen Square is always fascinating... I just wish there was the opportunity for historians to show the true extent and scale of the 1989 democracy movement. The late 1980s must have been an incredible time to be in China.

@Dragondescendant

5 жыл бұрын

Demoncrazy

@docdee770

2 жыл бұрын

It was an incredible time for the World. The cold war was warming up and it seemed like America was loosing the battle to Russia. People around the world lived in constant fear that America and Russia would go to war with each other, leading to WW3, and the the demise of mankind..

@user-kn2iz8ve2w

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt you've ever talked to a Chinese person about Tiananmen square

@brianhu9700

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dragondescendant If you love dictatorships so much, you should support monarchies.

It's like 1.4 billion Chinese people were held captive within the mainland.

-999999999999999999999999999 social credit

The Philippines also changed the story of Martial Law.. History always shout .. I hope Filipinos will also wake up

@Ludwig_Perpenhente

4 жыл бұрын

The Martial Law of Marcos? That thing never changed at all, it was considered a tough time back then and is recognized by most of us

@Ludwig_Perpenhente

4 жыл бұрын

We didn't pretend it didn't happen, in fact, we acknowledge it happened

@eugenechoi4988

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ludwig_Perpenhente yet they still worship marcos. History will always be wrong because of ignorant people.🙄

@aienne80yearsago46

3 жыл бұрын

I hope so too Source: Filipino

@meliodassama988

3 жыл бұрын

@@eugenechoi4988 nah, im pretty sure those who worship marcos are living better than in Manila. He was actually a good president before the secret gold treasures came in. He made something good for philippines as half locals say. Sorry i am a 15-year old filipino, and some of his deeds cannot be found on the internet....

It's hard to believe they could have pulled this off in '89 and even harder to think they can still try to keep it from being known.

@hw4756

5 жыл бұрын

full video of tank man kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4Gpyc-zeMSxYag.html

@dan_hitchman007

4 жыл бұрын

They did and have you ever heard of the Great China Firewall? They censor the internet in China. The only way around it is top notch VPN's.

What isn't covered much at all either is that the CCP would later execute serviceman who refused to fire into civilians.

@jaychung1380

5 жыл бұрын

Literally a culling of the good people. The west does nothing.. the brainwashed Chinese don’t care

@panama2468

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha good one. Sources on that? Or just more western shill fluff

@flexoffender7124

4 жыл бұрын

panama2468 1989 Tiananmen Square

@MA-fg5hz

4 жыл бұрын

@Joseph Ybarra-1 year later I'm reading your comment! The June 5th Tiananmen Square Massacre. ⚡ Something I didn't know about this horrible event, that a chinese serviceman was executed for not firing on unarmed civilians. Thank-you. I was researching this on the anniversary June 5th. I hope Hongkong doesn't turn into a Tiananmen square massacre.

@jongillis28

3 жыл бұрын

Intresting, and sad. Could I have a few links talking about this?

Xi Jin Ping after sees this vid: -999999999999999999999999 social credit

Thank you for not letting this be forgotten in history

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@Sakthi1960

2 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah John Xina 🤣

I can‘t imagine what must have happened to those people who lost their beloved ones… Now that China has complete control over their inhabitants… I can‘t look at their faces, it makes me tear up.

A man has been spotted protesting in lego city

-100,000,000,000 social points

All I see is some students who say "I love Mao"

@edwardalex9317

2 жыл бұрын

Good job young one! +15 social credits.

"The more you know the past, the better prepared you are for the future." -Theodore Roosevelt

Hundreds of foreign media reporters were in Tiananmen Square, but none of them captured the video of someone being killed.

What are they talking about? It never happened what are they talking about

Multi-party democracy is not very good, but One-party autocracy is a way much worse, and One-person dictatorship is definitely the worst. Chinese had two of them, and I know they never seen the first.

@Maelstromme

5 жыл бұрын

Democracy is experiencing a hiccup right now. At best it is so much better, but due to an inadequate education system and subsequently a culture built around being apolitical and illiterate, at least in America, you find it very hard for bad policies and those who put them in place to be held accountable. The people are not wise, because the administration is not wise. Thankfully, through democracy, education can be changed and fixed. If people are inspired enough.

We will never know who Tankman was, and what happened to him. I fear the worst... But to me he's one of the very few true hero's the world has known.

@HoorizonSniping

5 жыл бұрын

He's fine? What

@Aristotelezz

5 жыл бұрын

@na na Who gave the Chinese government the power to rule, and arrest anyone who opposes them?

@tommyfrance761

5 жыл бұрын

@na na Is there any proof of CIA involvement or are you just guessing? I'd love to see it if you have it.

@Aristotelezz

5 жыл бұрын

@na na It's called the Stockholm syndrome when you sympathize with your oppressor.

@Aristotelezz

5 жыл бұрын

@na na If you are smarter, you don't need to tell, I would've noticed.

Here in America, the history of us Native Americans has been suppressed

@ASM881

4 жыл бұрын

Mike Lewis no it hasn't.

@itstesfa4185

4 жыл бұрын

No it hasn’t Imao

@siyacer

3 жыл бұрын

Seems all the Chinese propoganda drones know is "But the West did it too!" whenever someone mentions what their government did wrong and then act like the West is the one deploying drones to cover up their past and shift the topic to the other country's problems.

@potatus6542

3 жыл бұрын

Things like the trail of tears is pretty well known in the US and really isn't suppressed

@ASM881

3 жыл бұрын

Anthony Burge Do you mean the Highway of Tears? That's actually in British Columbia, Canada and most of the murdered native women were from the city of Prince George, BC. I live one minute from the highway. The question isn't "Have 1st Nations people had a very rough ride?" Because the answer to that is YES. The question was, "Has their history been intentionally ignored?" It hasn't. It's been well reported in Canada and the US. I've donated to the Highway of Tears Fund and been on marches for Native Women. What have you done?

Just had a heart wrenching conversation with a woman in Beijing. She told me her husband drove an ambulance for Xiehe ( Peking Union Medical College Hospital) during the Tiananmen protests. This was apparently a hospital built by the USA after WW2 in Beijing to help relieve the suffering of the Chinese people in Beijing by offering medical assistance. She went on to tell me that her husband drove a rudimentary ambulance truck for the hospital. On the night in question, June 4th, he was ordered to Tiananmen as there was a report of many injured students. He arrived there and immediately his van was filled with the injured. He was very scared for his life! There were injured everywhere. He said that he spoke to students who told him that when they saw tanks running over people that they took rifles from soldiers and started shooting at the tanks. In retaliation, the People’s Army returned aggression ten fold! The PLA was responsible for the deaths of anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 civilians from Beijing! Their numbers can never be confirmed because their bodies were cremated on site and hosed into the sewer systems around Tiananmen and never received a proper burial! These things are facts that are never admitted to by a government that firmly believes in the “Lie and Deny” philosophy they have developed over 5000 years. Wake up China! The world knows what happened. There were reporters from all over the world in Beijing covering an event going on at the time. They stumbled upon this as their hotels were around Tiananmen! Why are you denying the facts? 400 people (per government reports) were accidentally killed! Absolutely false! The woman I spoke to tells me her husband ( the ambulance driver) , was held in a room for 3 weeks and was cautioned not to say anything about his experience on that day! When she started sobbing during the conversation with me, I was made aware instantly that there was great fear involved in discussing what happened to them all these years after this tragic event! The students were there under the assumption there was a possibility of changing the political system in China for something other than the repressive government that they had. Their appearance there was jovial and they only wanted their opinions to be heard ! Their peaceful celebration of the possibility of a new era and a new way of life were quickly squashed by an old regime based upon greed of the privileged few who followed the philosophy of all their ancient leaders to suppress the masses! kzread.info/dash/bejne/dpOKycGup8uodMo.html

@pervertt

5 жыл бұрын

I think there has been a subtle shift in the Chinese government's position on the Massacre. They first tried to say that nothing happened or nobody died. That obviously didn't work. Then they stopped talking about it, hoping the matter would go away. Thirty years later, it hasn't. The issue is still alive and kicking and the international community hasn't forgotten. Now we have General Wei Fenghe openly declare in an international forum that the Massacre was necessary. Finally, official acknowledgement that it happened! I doubt if there will ever will be an apology from the Party. They know that they will lose all legitimacy to govern once knowledge of the massacre becomes widespread in China.

@truenorthstrongandfree3699

5 жыл бұрын

pervertt Finally! An intelligent comment about the situation! They need to “come clean” so everyone can move on!

@pervertt

5 жыл бұрын

@@truenorthstrongandfree3699 They need to, but they won't. People with blood on their hands are now in positions of power and would not like their reputations further tarnished. China has been through worse under the communists (like the Great Famine that killed millions) and the Party has yet to own up to its mistakes. The Party has to be brought down to its hands and knees before it will atone for Tiananmen.

CCP- : “Amnesia has been a practice since ancient times”.

@canman5060

5 жыл бұрын

CCP : "State approved genocide on counter revolutionaries has been a normal practice since ancient Time !"

What do you mean? NoThiNg happened.

The funny thing that most of these Chinese students leads at that time is somehow are working for the US directly or indirectly now.

@zeparthe16thspiritofarsgoe15

5 жыл бұрын

Proof?

@jackytang3683

5 жыл бұрын

Student leaders are in protection by CIA

@Zhonguoria

5 жыл бұрын

They were supported by US government even as far back as 1989. They were called sleeper spies, because the ringleaders weren't even PRC citizens, but Taiwanese.

Although no media would talk about the Tiananmen Massacre in public, it is not a completely taboo in today's China. My highschool history textbook (2006) mentioned it, described it as a "political turmoil" , I can still remember my history teacher said: we are so close to become another Russia. Last year, I checked my nephew's textbook, it's still there.

@lei82

5 жыл бұрын

Nick Chang Liar, try to post one single word related publicly and show us plz

@andredingstertsao

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, but the only problem is that it is not a political turmoil. It is a massacre of students who did not own any weapons or who did not have any ability to fight back. It is not a taboo. It is non existence. And no way that would turn China into another Russia as we are living in another Russia basically. Plus, and why do you think they still mention it in history books? Simply because people like us who were born before that and our parents are still alive. So they do not dare to lie so bluntly. By putting that minute sentence in the book, they could get away saying that they did mention it in the book. But what about after all of the witnesses die? They would change the whole books if the communist part is still in power (god forbit).

@galecarp

5 жыл бұрын

@@lei82 At least in Shanghai so.

@lei82

5 жыл бұрын

Oliver C Who gives u the right to represent others?

@lei82

5 жыл бұрын

Oliver C You just said all

God give the Chinese people strength to wipe out clean the communist regime and hunt down the dictators and oppressors of the chinese people!

@Mira-pm3ni

2 жыл бұрын

That will happen in future but only when they will fail to live up to the people's expectations . Right now their country is going towards in steady direction . They have economic prosperity and safe environment .

This is a report on a famous chinise movie +50 social credit

This shows how a absolute powerful state can do to it's people: can control national memory of people.

@D3xterJettster

2 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile in the west the liberals keep begging for more government

No one gonna talk about the soldiers those students killed?

@ds0ivi0

2 жыл бұрын

Those who started the movements are long term US residenta, both anti china and ccp.

@ds0ivi0

2 жыл бұрын

Samething for hongkong, what about the crimes those students commited? Gonna ignore them all and points all the arrows at the ccp? Brain washed by the media, how biased.

@Viktor-nf4xs

2 жыл бұрын

+1000 credit

Sun ,moon and truth cannot hide for longtime.

CHILLING!

Cameraman never Dies

No one: Google for some reason: *FEELIN LUCKY?*

The United Nations should have ejected the PRC from membership and restablished Taiwan's membership.

@chizhang2765

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah if only international relations are about having good morals instead of the balance of power...

DW I also request you to make up a video about the human rights abuse in Guantanamo Bay. That would also be a balanced way to put it.

Western media keeps on calling it a massacre. But where are the actual images and clips of the incident if it really was bad as the media claimed it to be. Just curious.

@gxmei5656

5 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests#Deaths_in_Tiananmen_Square_itself 'could not find enough evidence to suggest that a massacre took place on the Square itself' 'there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square itself' 'did not observe any mass firing of weapons into the crowds of the square itself' 'most of the troops which entered the square were armed only with anti-riot gear' also www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8555142/Wikileaks-no-bloodshed-inside-Tiananmen-Square-cables-claim.html ‘Wikileaks: cables from the United States embassy in Beijing have shown there was no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square’ ‘Protesters who were still in the square when the army reached it were allowed to leave after negotiations with martial law troops’

@dan_hitchman007

4 жыл бұрын

They are all over the internet... the free internet that is.

CONDOLENCE. NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.

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Why you afraid of the Truth Poo Bear?

@Ole_Rasmussen

5 жыл бұрын

@@chfgbp6098 What does any of that have to do with this? Are you saying because some parts of your country are better than some parts of other countries, it's okay to murder 20.000 students? It's okay to cover it up and lie? You're just doing a weird flex because you think "might makes right."

@itrthho

5 жыл бұрын

timothy: Thanks for participating, WU MAO

I searched it up on all Chinese websites. Nothing showed up

In fact, no one was killed in Tiananmen Square. Hundreds of people have lost their lives in Muxidi and other places, including the mob who robbed dozens of military vehicles. This is strange, isn't it? Why are soldiers snatched by civilians with guns in their hands? Because the discipline of Chinese soldiers is the strictest. Even in the conflict, Chinese soldiers were required to never fire their first shots. Not to mention facing ordinary people in their own country. Otherwise, how can we explain that so many soldiers were burned to death by thugs and thrown into the street? Why do reporters from Western countries never broadcast these video footage? Do you see any civilians burned to death?

I know the truth saw it all on Australian news. I had nightmares it was heartbreaking. I think 60,000 died at that time, but I have no proof.

2019 is a great year for anniversaries 2009- Xinjiang Uyghur massacre 1999- Falon Gong crackdown 1989- Tienanmen square massacre 1979- Diplomatic relations established with the U.S. 1969- Cultural revolution 1959- Tibetan uprising 1949- Communist revolution

@xanpenguin754

4 жыл бұрын

2019 Hong Kong

@prime_optimus

2 жыл бұрын

@@xanpenguin754 I wonder what 2029 has in store. If we survive that long.

China says nothing happened

This is what happens when you question authority. But don’t stop asking questions, never stop. That’s when it gets bad.

I thought Nigeria-biafra is one the missing dark facts in modern history... But knowing that China has its own!

@kciemimido962

5 жыл бұрын

@Mwaniki Mwaniki I do not understand your question. If you meant that I should tell you about the war... It is a civil war that happened between 1967-1970... You can simply Google it both for video and and writing information/material for it... Just type Nigeria civil war or biafra war or Nigeria-biafra war . Then If you asking about how is it similar to this Chinese masacare... It is similar because international media at that refuse to broadcast since world powers of then USA and specifically UK who was the colonial master supported the Nigerian government at that time, hence CNN und BBC purposely do not give it enough media attention the way they gave it to Vietnamese cold War of then. 2. Nigerian government refused that it should be taught in school especially since it's part of the history of Nigerian.

FedEx diverted Huawei's package from Japan to u.s. instead of China on the command of u.s. government. Happened last week!

@RawrRileyRS

5 жыл бұрын

And?

@itrthho

5 жыл бұрын

All my GOD! Thanks for mentioning that. How many thousands died when FEDEX fought their way of Japan to get the super secret documents to the CIA in Washington DC??

Governments will never be held accountable.

So is this more fictional than the Moon landing or vice-versa?

Nothing happened in tiananman square wat they talking about

One man can stopped tanks which responsible for a massacre!? I think if the tank is responsible for it, then it should rollover that man without any hesitation!

@keith1909

5 жыл бұрын

bot

What happened where now?

Lets hope they will try it again and succeed, now it would be a good time

Sad they dare not to release the videos of PLA being burnt alive first by those peaceful protectors. It was a riot handled in a terrible way, that's it.

I have question that do you guys know what FedEx had been done to the Huawei? I literally can’t find any clear reports from US news institutions and very little information from other western news sources. At the end, do you guys really believe there is a such big difference between each country government?

Don’t remember anything happening

He reminds me onepunchman carrying groceries

I have seen the complete complete footage, the tank man was not run over by the tanks. Imagine if the tanks were driven by USA National Guards.

If Chinese citizens had a second amendment, this would never have happened.

@darealbukchoyboi

Жыл бұрын

True but if they did then China would be like how they were thousands of years ago, warlords and militias dividing China

@motorbikemadness5773

Жыл бұрын

@@darealbukchoyboi Highly doubtful.

@darealbukchoyboi

Жыл бұрын

@@motorbikemadness5773 well that was pretty much China after the collapse of the monarch. Bunch of groups were formed up north that had their own weapons and fought each other even when the Japanese invaded.

Typing the tianmmen square on baidu A chinese police: OPEN UP Me: why is the police here

I didn’t know about this eather untill today

Tiananmen Square massacre - Please show me the video clip on the event. Or, you can see the clip recorded by the Spanish TV team (KZread clip) on the students orderly walking out of the square. The western media keep on repeating how many students were kill and never mention how many soldiers (age between 18 - 20) were killed by the students and workers.

Y’all every think about what the us could be hiding

@akzebraminer5679

4 жыл бұрын

China hides everything and we still no about it. The US hides things (just like every country) but not things like this.

I will not forget.

read 1984 and then view Chine, you will show a smiling face? u find something that match well but later you show your tears too?

First viewer May the souls of the people died in massacre rest in peace !!! Long Live Democracy !!!

@thejeffinvade

5 жыл бұрын

30 years on, is today's Russian society more equal 30 years after the collapse of communism? When state enterprises were privatized, does the benefit goes to average Russian citizens or oligarchs? Is average Ukrainians better off today than the Chinese since they got their vote? Is there less corruption or more since 1989? Democracy is not the goal of governance, it's only a mean, the goal is to create better life for its citizens. On that front, the Chinese government has done a remarkable job for 30 years since Tiananmen square.

@lei82

5 жыл бұрын

thejeffinvade It’s ultimately done by Chinese people, Thank you. Could have done better if a true leadership which is selected by its people

@thejeffinvade

5 жыл бұрын

@@lei82 Revolution certainly doesn't lead to good leadership, just look at Libya or Syria or Post-soviet countries. Any stable authoritarian government is better than no government at all. Populism doesn't lead to good governance either, just look at Trump or Brexit. I say the Chinese political system has a higher chance of producing a competent and capable leadership than the west. The problem with the Chinese political system is the rules of succession, or more specifically the lack of it.

@Darrylx444

5 жыл бұрын

@@thejeffinvade Russia is not much of a democracy (ranked #144, with North Korea ranked #167) so I'm not sure why you would use it as an example. IMO, people being "better off" is largely a matter of economic prosperity, combined with at least some control over their government and the collective ability to create laws that the majority wants. Of course, with Human rights and the environment being respected too. China has indeed prospered economically in the past 30 years - no doubt - but that is mostly due to the global economic realities of supply and demand during that period, and of course the hard (and comparitively poorly-paid) work of the Chinese people. What would have happened under a democratic Chinese government during that same time? You certainly cannot say, and neither can I. Saudi Arabia is another example of a strict dictatorship (#159) having decades of economic success and prosperity, simply due to the accident of having a globally-important natural resource (oil) under their feet. OTOH, Venezuela is also a dictatorship (#134) with huge reserves of oil, but exactly the opposite economic results, achieved mostly through ridiculous levels of government incompetence and corruption. I think economic prosperity (or mismanagement of the economy) is not exclusive to any form of government. Although (in a real democracy), at least there is a way for the people to demand and achieve the changes needed to hopefully improve performance to the best it can be, under the circumstances.

@thejeffinvade

5 жыл бұрын

@@Darrylx444 Is USA ranked higher on your list? On May 4th 1970, the Ohio National Guard open fire at unarmed college students at Kent State University, killing 4 students and wounding 9 others. I know they don't have tanks deployed and the scale of shooting is different, but the nature of the crackdown is the same. I used Russia as an example not because they are a democracy, but to prove that revolution certainly doesn't lead to good governance. Just look at Libya or Syria or Iraq.

Yes but nothing happened right ?

This evil act will never be erased while democracies exist.

@dumitruzlati6672

2 жыл бұрын

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Where is shooting footages?

@Vahn-xc1gc

5 жыл бұрын

Go and Google or if you in China you probably can't see it.

It's good to see the profile of these events raised, but let's not forget that this was just a symptom of the style of rule of the party. Similar brutality was and is used against Tibetans, Uyghurs. There are also the many atrocities of the early years of the revolution. The problem for the party is that it cannot reconcile the past without endangering its position today, so the enforced amnesia will continue.

@michaels72985

5 жыл бұрын

Walrave naive

@t.mitchell9135

5 жыл бұрын

“He who controls the past controls the future.” - George Orwell

@CuongNguyen-le5ic

5 жыл бұрын

I talked to few Chinese who know about this and their response sound SCRIPTED to me like "It is necessary for the death of many to progress into the future". I asked "What if you and your family is the next death and be forgotten". The scary part is those Chinese even with VPN still afraid of getting track. I know the feeling because Vietnam has a LITE VERSION of this and my uncle response the same scripted replies when I talked about the wrong doings of Ho Chi Minh like his 14 years old mistress got rape to death by one of his trusted underling.

There's no defending this action of the Chinese government, nor is its attempts to cover it up. However, the list of governments that have made amends for their actions is fairly short, isn't it?

@canman5060

5 жыл бұрын

Even Stalin was shock by this crackdown.

@jesse1million

5 жыл бұрын

Lar M stalin died in 1953

@pewmanfoibles7557

5 жыл бұрын

Nice try changing the subject. Whether a government makes amends for past injustices is completely irrelevant to the subject of censorship. The Chinese government strictly prohibits any public acknowledgement or discussion of the massacre. In a free country people are allowed to talk about past events. China is not a free country.

@pewmanfoibles7557

5 жыл бұрын

@@f554uv1 Americans are allowed to talk about The USS Liberty without government interference. People make documentaries, publish articles, write books about it. On youtube there are many videos about it. But in China youtube is banned. This very video you are commenting on is banned in China.

@CuongNguyen-le5ic

5 жыл бұрын

@@f554uv1 True, but when mentioned, you can find search for it and even document about it. That's the different compared to China.

is this news or tarrif war

VPN ?

You cannot cover what happened. There are photos and archive films.

@youarerightqq1188

5 жыл бұрын

so what

@tommyfrance761

5 жыл бұрын

@na na Really?

It was a good attempt. Try again don't give up

I KNOW WHAT I SAW AS A CHILD. THAT MAN GOT RAN OVER BY A TANK *LEFT WHEELS* SEEING HIS BODY CRUSHED WAS GRUESOME HORRIFYING SCENE I EVER SEEN.

The West greatly Underestimates the Real Scale of the Protests in May-June 1989. A Chinese who witnessed the events (not in Beijing, but in another big city), living now in Europe, said on TV that protests were in more than 400 cities where many thousands of people went to the streets (in each and every of these 400+ cities), everywhere including many intellectuals, workers, public servants and even some policemen and army men! It was a FULL SCALE NATIONAL PROTEST, not just a students' protest only in Beijing! Nobody knows how many thousands of protesters were killed by the Communist regime and how many hundreds of thousands were put in prisons and tortured, not just in Beijing but allover China. This is what CCP is hiding so-o-o-o tightly, and this is something what investigative journalists from the free world should reveal!

@youknowbestofall5353

5 жыл бұрын

@UV Gardener , You, as a soldier from The United Front, should know the answer very well - it is because of the immense oppression & censorship by the ruthless CCP regime! For all Westerners and people from free countries, Watch here Why You Do Not See Tens of Thousands Parents and Relatives of Killed and Imprisoned PEACEFUL PROTESTERS which wanted only Freedom of Press, Disclosure of Wealth of CCP elite, and Accountability of the rulers. Tiananmen Square crackdown 30 years on: why the wounds haven't healed kzread.info/dash/bejne/i52NrMFpitO8abQ.html

Ah the joys of communism

It’s quite optimistic to say that these topics are taboo. Taboo, by definition, is something that everyone knows of but don’t talk about. These incidents are soon to be unknown because of the censorship in China. The millennials in China and their parents are probably the last ones to actually still have some ideas of what happened as the Political climate in the 90s were not so intense and the censorship was not as severe. It is sad to see that young people born after 1995, many of them, do not know of or hear of the incidents. Some of them do know the existence of the massacre but they tend to agree with what the Chinese government did then as many of the young people these days grew up brainwashed in a manner that is like never before. I do hope though, that the truth will come out one day and the families of the lost ones will truly rest in piece.

@htht7831

5 жыл бұрын

For people still live within China, they all believe it was wrong, but they also believe the current government is better than a western democratic one.

@Darrylx444

5 жыл бұрын

@@htht7831 How very nice of you to speak as self-appointed spokesperson for 1.4 billion people, most of whom who you have never even met. How will we ever know that what you say is true, since they are not free to say otherwise, nor allowed to peacefully select (aka vote for) an alternative?

@bh551

5 жыл бұрын

Darrylx444 I agree with comments by Oliver C, and I was in China two weeks ago. As a matter of fact, I visited China in 1989, 1990, 1993, 1995 and thereafter at least every other two years! Chinese people condemn social incidents. It was regrettable that the government at time allowed the situation to build up to the scale as we saw it.

@pervertt

5 жыл бұрын

You can't hide a rotting corpse. The smell goes everywhere. The Chinese government will spray can after can of air freshener but eventually people will find out. They will be revolted when they know the truth.

@CArnoldi1

5 жыл бұрын

@@pervertt I dont think so. This corpse has reached its most smelling state long ago. It is now dissolving more and more into the earth, its smell lessening with every year. I wouldn't be surprised if in 30 years 0 of 100 young people know what really happened that day.

There is an elephant that bypasses a provocative ant, even though he has strong strength. So who is more great, elephant or ant? Now there is a tank that can destroy the boulder, but he chose to brake. Some ignorant people are praising ants.

@Ole_Rasmussen

5 жыл бұрын

You people really think that you're right because you have military power? You're insane. A cancer on this planet.

@gavinc8875

5 жыл бұрын

@@Ole_Rasmussen In China, this man is still alive like ordinary people. In American, this man would be shot by police. So I think American is more great cos it can realy kill their people instead of pretending to do

I see also quite a lot military vehicles damages, burned. I probably missed a coment about this side, when soldiers were under attack.

@BuiltSimilarG

3 жыл бұрын

Why is the military in a riot? Isn't that for the police???

And they lived with fear for ever

Where is the evidence of massca ? Just a few tanks? Where the body?

@pervertt

5 жыл бұрын

How old are you, Daisy?

@-Kerstin

5 жыл бұрын

If you really want to see the dead bodies you can easily find images

did you know that US had its own tianmen?

@xanpenguin754

4 жыл бұрын

Really the US has an event where hundreds if not thousands of peaceful protesters where shot and beaten. Then tried to hide and deny that?

@goburr1649

2 жыл бұрын

think he means 9/11

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