Westerners: Look there’s land, we are getting rich! Ming sailors: Look there are locals, show them we are rich.

@shirleyxia9988

2 жыл бұрын

Give them some silk and gold to show how generous and above them we are!

@johnsouwcuanan1640

2 жыл бұрын

Yesssss

@johnsouwcuanan1640

2 жыл бұрын

@@shirleyxia9988: Yessss.......

@itsoktolovechina

2 жыл бұрын

@@shirleyxia9988 What?

@l-b01josefandres44

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsoktolovechina the "above them" sentiment is because back then when China was ruled by dynasties it still had that mentality that it was the only civilized nation in the world and every others were barbarians.

One of the reasons behind those expeditions was that the Yongle Emperor, being an usurper, needed to establish his own achievement to justify his accession to the throne (which is similar with Emperor Taizong of Tang's scenario). Ming Dynasty was wealthy enough under his rule so these expeditions were affordable. At the end of Ming Dynasty it came to the point that it had trouble maintaining a proper field army due to corruption and the effects of little ice age etc.

@williamduncan9385

Жыл бұрын

Considering his and his Grandson’s accomplishments, I would say they earned the Mandate of Heaven. Europe would have remained in the dark ages without that 11,000 volume encyclopedia of all Chinese knowledge and the introduction of Rice in Italy.

@djtan3313

Жыл бұрын

@@williamduncan9385 an educated man u r.

@AvalancheZ250

Жыл бұрын

@@williamduncan9385 Well said, if a bit hyperbolic. People often forget that every achievement is built on the shoulders of giants, and its giants all the way down. Europe learned from China, China learned from Europe. Just like how the Europeans learned from the Islamic world, and vice versa. And how China learned from the Islamic world also. No progress was made in a perfect vacuum. History is always different people learning from others, and then making advances of their own. In this way, humanity as a whole progresses. Unfortunately, with much bloodshed along the way. The New World in the Americas was only so far behind technologically because they actually isolated from the rest of humanity in the Old World. That and they, unfortunately, lacked suitable pack animals.

I lived in Semarang, a capital city of central java. In Semarang, there's also a temple called "Sam Po Kong" that was built to remember the arrival of "Cheng Ho" in Indonesia. which means, Cheng Ho not only went to the Sumatra, and go further to India, but he also went to east of Indonesia, or so i was taught.

@1313hyme

5 жыл бұрын

Plus all the way up west Africa too and possibly more.

@whkwole6842

5 жыл бұрын

Eric Zong: I believe you were not taught about the communication between the Chinese government and Java, or Indonesia. You see, Zhing Ho did not visit foreign countries as private citizen of China. He visited every country as a national envoy commanding hundreds of huge naval ships (317 or 1456 ships). To visit foreign countries with such a huge armada including about 30,000 sailors must be arranged before departure. Therefore China must have exchanged communications with prospective countries before Zheng He's departure to settle such things as 1, whether other countries allowed Zheng He's visit, 2, whom to meet, 3, where to meet, 4, what to talk about, 5, how long would Zheng He stay, 6, how to accommodate so many huge ships and numerous sailors, 7, etc. If there was no such written history, most likely Zheng He never commanded any huge armada to visit foreign countries. A slim likelihood could be that, he visited some countries as a private person without meeting any king in foreign land.

@whkwole6842

5 жыл бұрын

@@1313hyme : Yes, Zheng He might have visited as far as Africa. But most likely he went there as a private citizen, not as a government envoy commanding a huge armada of huge naval ships (one version says he had 317 ships while another says he had 1456 ships).

@whkwole6842

5 жыл бұрын

@BenjaminFranklin99 : Yes Zheng Ho might have gone to Yemen and Africa. Yet I believe he went there as a private citizen, not as a government-sent diplomatic official. The proof is, he did not see the Yemen king, nor see any king in Africa. No diplomatic business was recorded in any country he had visited.

@1313hyme

5 жыл бұрын

@@whkwole6842 there are some written documents but most were burned during the burning of books in the Ming dynasty. Also ask the Indonesia, India, K enya, south Africa, Sri Lanka, and more. So don't be a caveman and learn something new. For a starter, read your National Geographic.

It's honestly hilarious that we never learned about any of this in (American) school. Even in WORLD history class we learned nothing about China. It was always Christopher Columbus, Italy, Spain the Vikings, etc... China was never mentioned.

@legpol

2 жыл бұрын

Felix F : When you watched this video, you might have been convinced by it to believe Zheng He's story to be history. But reality is quite different because there are opposite arguments saying that, the Zheng He story is just a false propaganda. Let me give you one hint. This video only told you how many and how huge were Zheng's ships, but it does not tell you how many years were taken to build them. As far as I know from other sources, the Chinese took only less than 3 years to build 317 ships each of which was as large as a football field. This number gave you a building speed of about one ship per 3 days. Mister, do you believe such a speed? Every 3 days a football-size ship was built.... There were many other features the video does not tell you, such as the sail ships sailed up the Yangtze River. According to Chinese narratives, Zheng He's sail ships went up the Yangtze River 7 times. Do you or can you believe so?

@AO-ow6tt

2 жыл бұрын

Because the Anglo-Saxon mentality is blinded by its complex of superiority.

@thisnthat7760

2 жыл бұрын

@@legpol maybe in reality your narrative is twisted too just like you are arguing... Wake up and admit that civilization was flourishing and flourished in the east .

@thisnthat7760

2 жыл бұрын

That's funny.. in indian school (private educational institutions)we are taught about everything (every culture,every civilization,every dynasty throughout the centuries across the world and even politics) in a non biased way, by the time we reach 12th grade we know more about other's culture (,what went down and what's going on)than they know about ours 🤣🤣

@shepwillner7507

2 жыл бұрын

Really? I learned about China in 7th grade history, along with Egypt, Mesopotamia, Greece, Rome, Persia, and India.

The Chinese did trade also with the pre-Spanish Philippines, then a group of many ethnic tribes, in fact the Sultan of Sulu Bathara Paducah visited the Emperor Yong Le, and died on his way home, thr emperor built him a tomb worthy of an emperor, still there after 600 years to this day, his descendants were allowed to stay to watch over it. Such a gracious emperor..

@legpol

3 жыл бұрын

Ramon Ng: This story about Sulu Bathara Paducah might be in doubt because a new incident. In 2018 the Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping told the Philippine people that Zheng He had visited the Philippines multiple times. Immediately a Philippine chief judge denied the story saying Zheng He never visited the Philippines.

@timoc5880

11 ай бұрын

@@legpolThe chief judge is not a historian lol

Five thousand years ago, the Chinese faced the floods like the Egyptians. Four thousand years ago, the Chinese played bronze wares like the Cuban people. Three thousand years ago, the Chinese thought of philosophy the same as the Greeks. Two thousand years ago, the Chinese and the Romans went around the same place. A thousand years ago, the Chinese were as wealthy as gold kingdom; now the Chinese are as economically as the Americans. The Chinese have been at the table for five thousand years, and the players across the board have changed waves. History will eventually prove that who will rushes through and who is the real master.

@nsebast

5 жыл бұрын

that is why for Chinese leaders UNITY is their most important agenda.

@rencechannel2240

5 жыл бұрын

That's why Chinese civilization is the enduring and withstood THOUSANDS of years that Egypt and Mesopotamian won't.

@bluskies1000

5 жыл бұрын

Whatever you say. Lets meet at the local Wienerschnitzel on Mars, get a couple dogs, and talk about it

@fsh3702

5 жыл бұрын

China is more like a civilization, not a nation. Just imagine the Roman empire exists till today.

@xavier7332

5 жыл бұрын

@Jonathan Williams sorry it's not.

When Admiral Zheng He graced our shores in his diplomatic voyage to Somalia. We gave him the iconic giraffe that became synonymous with his East African mission, as a token of hospitality and friendship. As a result, Mogadishu sent three ambassadorial envoys to China between 1416 and 1423. The first ever African nation to do so.

@TheMrgoodmanners

5 жыл бұрын

he never sailed to somalia just mombasa and to a lesser extent malindi in kinya, somalia has never had large wild giraffe populations its too dry. I have even seen some of the artefacts he traded with the coastal natives during that period at the central museum in nairobi

@leftbreak22

4 жыл бұрын

thank you for sharing!

@brucelu4782

3 жыл бұрын

When was the last time an European fleet went to a less advanced civilization only to present the locals with gifts and took local chiefs for a tour of their European homeland. And then taking the local chiefs back again to their tribes with more gifts from the emperor. Anything like this ever happened to a European nation? This is not one time event but in all 7 voyages, or it's some trickery only to trap the locals for later exploitation, It's just human decency, does it make you happy when you see someone else is happy, what's joy to see others suffer? Chinese culture is different for the West. The west operates on the rule of jungle, West had cultural roots grew out of pirates/traders, they always prey on the weak, they will always take advantage or subjugate the weak if there is a chance. Like a wild animal, always on the outlook for prey. Confucius believed we are humans not animals, only uncivilized barbarians behave like animals. That's why the Chinese behaved differently. I am not saying we Chinese are saints, of cause not, but I believe we behave more humanly, not perfect but decent. We believe in karma, what goes around comes around. I know westerner don't believe what I say, but we watch what we do. Like I said we are not perfect, but we try to be decent human beings.

@aerohydra3849

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMrgoodmanners He did sail to present day Somalia, or so I've heard. Mogadishu was a prime trading port as well as Mombasa.

@leafster1337

3 жыл бұрын

some ships gots wrecked in east africa. i forget which but pretty sure theres a credible wiki page on it

There is a very good reason why the Chinese did not choose to colonise other lands. Back in those days, well until the mid early 19th century, Chinese products are the most luxurious and wanted trade products in the world. When ZhengHe came back from his many voyages they bring tributes from faraway kingdoms as a gesture of respect and submission to the Chinese emperor. The only reason why Portugal and Spain sailed the world later was because their trade route to China and India was blocked by the Ottoman Empire, so ironically the reason why those countries sailed the seas was because they want to reach China. Whereas China was largely self sufficient.

6 жыл бұрын

thesuperproify "Tributaries"?

@perfectallycromulent

5 жыл бұрын

Ask everyone in East Asia who isn't Chinese about whether the Chinese chose to colonize other lands. The 55 minority cultures of China became minority cultures of China because the Chinese conquered their lands and colonized them.

@itsnotatoober

5 жыл бұрын

Thats amateur af.

@hzhang1228

5 жыл бұрын

@Johan Smid what do you mean there is no proof? there were 7 voyages that conducted numerous missions which resulted complete domination of the south China sea trade route by the Ming for many years. there are lots of Chinese Ming dynasty monuments along the ports of SE Asia all the way to the Middle East and countless artifacts. many nation became tributary states of the Ming all competing for support and trade with China that lasted long after the treasure voyages. the Ming also ended local civil wars and supported leaders that allied themselves to the Ming thus changing local politics. the sea trade routes were made safe when many pirates were defeated. local leaders were told not to invade each other. the nations prospered. local sea ports became wealthy and were able to compete with established international sea ports. records of these developments are countless. there are even western accounts as well. proof is everywhere so I don't see what is funny?

@hzhang1228

5 жыл бұрын

@Johan Smid historical records= archaeological evidence, Ming era monuments = archaeological evidence, Ming era artifacts = archaeological evidence. development of sea ports = archaeological evidence. Ming storehouses along the sea ports where trade was conducted = archaeological evidence. did you not actually read my first comment?

Superb history lesson ☘️ Thank you so much for sharing with us 🌼

as a Malaysian Chinese (NOT descended from the Treasure fleet, most Malaysian Chinese came during the Qing dynasty and after), I had family talk about how the government used to teach about the voyages of the fleet as part of history. Sadly, this isn't the case anymore as the government either scraped or modified the curriculum to remove any Chinese "fantasies" from their malay history.

Thank you, very informative documentary

China went to Tanzania in 1600s, come back with a herd of giraffes🦒🦒 🦒 🦒 🦒 🦒 🦒 🦒 🦒

@markmitchell450

3 жыл бұрын

So what was this ship china's version of noahs ark

@jnusslein6301

3 жыл бұрын

@J you are right, i made mistake

@subashgrg4666

3 жыл бұрын

Blackanese people there descended from Chinese warriors who took local woman and settled there.

@user-bc3tq8pk9v

3 жыл бұрын

麒麟(qilin)=🦒，actually the pronunciation of giraffe in Japanese and Korea are the same. ( kirin-gilin )

@stevemraz3883

3 жыл бұрын

Actually it's 1400s, 200 years earlier

Awesome thanks for uploading.

Deep informative documentary.

I remember reading that Chinese sailors had reached the coast of Tanzania and had obtained various goods even a giraffe

@legpol

3 жыл бұрын

Salha Masoud: What you had read must be written by Chinese because Zheng He's huge fleet was never seen by any foreigners, Zheng He's presence in foreign lands was never reported by foreigners, Zheng He never left any words to foreign governments, and finally there was not any correspondence between Chinese and foreign governments about Zheng He' meetings with foreign officials. It was only a one-sided narration about Zheng He doing this and that in far away places.

@stevemraz3883

3 жыл бұрын

@@legpol How pathetic. Temples honoring Zhenghe were founded across Southeast Asia till this day: Thailand, Cambodia, Malasia, and Indonesia. Denying facts and history only makes you stupid

@legpol

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevemraz3883 : Please make a difference between Zheng He and the fleet. I never denied Zheng He, he might have travelled and left some footprint in southeast Asian countries. What I was denying is his fleet. It was too huge to be ignored by witnesses in foreign countries, and there was no foreign witness. However, the fleet was reported by some local Chinese only, none foreign. And, all the Chinese reports were too huge to be believable. Such as 1), every 3 days a huge ship was built. 2) in 3 years 317 - 1600 huge ships were built. 3) huge ships were capable to sail up the Yangtze River. Can you show that these are facts? If you cannot, then who is stupid? (There are more Chinese reports too huge to be believed if you stay.)

@legpol

3 жыл бұрын

@@JW-xr9kb : Thank you for giving me a new book to read. But since the book tells the Zheng He story as history, it is the same stuff as this video. Therefore I chose not to read it. I noted that Zheng He was also called "Admiral" in the book. This military rank was a lie. Zheng He was never given any military rank. He was called and addressed "eunuch" in a book called Ying Ya Sheng Lan 瀛涯胜览 written down by his interpreter Ma Huan. Therefore, to call Zheng He admiral is wrong history, fake history. It is not worth reading. If you have the information about the construction of the ships used by Zheng He, telling the world how and why his ships were built so fast, I shall appreciate it very much.

@stevemraz3883

3 жыл бұрын

@@legpol Come on. "Zheng He's presence in foreign lands was never reported by foreigners", This is your own words, please don't all of a sudden replace it with something else. Read this literature: Portuguese and Chinese Maritime Imperialism: Camoes's Lusiads and Luo Maodeng's Voyage of the San Bao Eunuch. See if Zheng He has made it to Africa or not and how great it was, so when the Porturgees came decades later after Zheng He the Africans mistook them as Chinese in the first place

The oldest mosque in Java Indonesia built by Zheng He a Chinese Muslim Admiral, its just mind blowing considering these recent years

@navegantezen5983

3 жыл бұрын

Zayed Haroon Yes, he was Muslim. But it wasn’t even mentioned in this documentary

@forthesakeoffreedom

3 жыл бұрын

@Zayed Haroon it is said one target of his voyages was to haj at Mekka in personal.

@legpol

3 жыл бұрын

Iwan : Some native Chinese do not believe the great naval fleet commanded by Zheng He. It was reported and claimed by the Chinese ruling party that the fleet consisted of 317 huge ships, each was about the size of a football field, and was built within 3 years in one shipbuilding yard in a city Nanjing on the Yangtze River, about one ship per 3 days. Is such a fast building speed possible? This is not all. The fleet was built for sightseeing only. After Zheng He finished his sightseeing, the whole fleet was completely destroyed, not one was left. Mister, can such a thing be real?

@legpol

3 жыл бұрын

@mohd izwan : Since Zheng He came with a huge fleet of more than 300 huge ships, your country must have some records telling about those ships, not records written by Chinese immigrants to your country in later years. It must be records written by your fellow countrymen telling the arrival of the ships and Zheng He. I so asked because now some Chinese themselves raised doubts about this huge fleet saying it was a hoax.

@vincilee888

3 жыл бұрын

@Zayed Haroon The emperor built a mosque for Zheng He--the Jingjue Temple, in city,Nanjing.

The "pirate ship" that sold them fresh fish was named Iskandar which may be a reference to Iskandar Agung, who is said to have lived in a volcano in Northern Sumatra and ridden a flying horse, which is the local name for Alexander the Great and a legendary figure in those parts though he went no further than India. I encountered this legend when i was studying history as a child in Indonesia in the sixties. We were also taught about the trading junks of Zheng He in the Indonesian archipelago.

@moptopbaku6022

2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating. Thank you.

@starcityrc3298

2 жыл бұрын

Quite interesting that even in places Alexander didn't travel to. He is a Legend.

@anniechao8930

2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting!

@anniechao8930

2 жыл бұрын

Junks?

@beebeeho1454

2 жыл бұрын

what JUNKS u meant?

This is what I like about this channel. I have literally no idea what the next documentary coming out it is going to be on.

@delatroy

3 жыл бұрын

The internal workings of a cockatiel’s big toenail 👍

Really nice the deepest and widest history in the world. Soo rich history. I am from Estonia and Mongolia.👏👏👏

Very interesting . Thanks for sharing .

The disunity of Europe led to endless wars, but when Columbus was turned down by Portugal he simply went next door to the King of Spain. When the Chinese emperor said no, however, that was it.

@generalripper7528

2 жыл бұрын

That's why Europeans discovered and settled in North America and the Chinese didn't.

@harukrentz435

2 жыл бұрын

@@generalripper7528 europeans discovered america by mistake though. They wanted to go to asia where they can find the riches, even Columbus mistook american natives as Indians.

@generalripper7528

2 жыл бұрын

@@harukrentz435 The word "discovered" already implies that they didn't know America existed.

@moneyobsessed

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, chaos and micromanagement make europe and japan BIG powers

@NoProxies

3 ай бұрын

@@harukrentz435 You can't discover something that has already been discovered/land lived on by peoples already...also Asian blood is in some of the Natives mixed with African blood.

The Chinese identity in itself is a weird thing, it’s peculiar how an identity can survive through so many cultures. They just keep going.

@shirleyxia9988

2 жыл бұрын

Eh, it's really just one culture that has integrated other elements into it over time...

@bearpolo3618

2 жыл бұрын

It's the Chinese civilization. It continues to evolve till this day. That's why it can survive the ups and downs over the long history.

@donkeyslayer4661

2 жыл бұрын

They just keep going...always down the wrong road.

@bearpolo3618

2 жыл бұрын

@@donkeyslayer4661 Wrong road? How do you know? What makes you think you can tell whether it's right or wrong? What a joke!

@shirleyxia9988

2 жыл бұрын

@@donkeyslayer4661 if they always went down the wrong road they'd cease to exist like the roman empire or the huns.

Chinese Imperial fleets visited many different parts of the world, East Asia (Including China obviously but also Japan and Korea and Siberia), South East Asia (modern day Indonesia, Malaysia, The Philippines, Vietnam, Burma, Thailand, etc), South Asia (India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan), South West Asia (the Persian Gulf, the Red Sea, Arabia, etc), Africa and probably the Mediterranean Sea and the Indian Ocean and the Atlantic Ocean. And probably the northern coast of Australia and the west coast of North America and possibly South America were also visited.

@donkeyslayer4661

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget never never land.

@cheerio2298

2 жыл бұрын

i believe the chinese found atlantis as well

@marcusaurelius2455

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheerio2298 don’t forget El Dorado as well!

@65stang98

2 жыл бұрын

you literally named every landmass on earth

@davel9514

2 жыл бұрын

@@marcusaurelius2455 Worst soap opera ever!

Admiral Cheng Ho had been to the Samudra Pasai kingdom, gave gifts of bells and is now at an intersection in ace

@alinurmohamudhajji2768

2 жыл бұрын

wonderful documentary

Fascinating

Hi . They were here in New Zealand ....Ming Potery had been discovered...The story goes only one ship survived some kind of Mega eruption in Taupo Aotearoa New Zealand 🇳🇿 and sailed home

@haodeplorable266

3 жыл бұрын

Amazing

@aoltechnology1586

2 жыл бұрын

Would be great that if you makes a video to KZread about these findings.

@pgdaszzz7399

2 жыл бұрын

The corrupted politicians did destroyed a lot of records, seems to me... But, how did they discovered NZ without discovering Australia?

@aoltechnology1586

2 жыл бұрын

@@pgdaszzz7399 u can end up anywhere on earth without GPS 😂

@richardmorgan3093

2 жыл бұрын

@@pgdaszzz7399 Maui the so called Maori demi God who myth says he fished up the North Island 🏝What a legend lol ..MAUI WAS AN EGYPTIAN...Fact ..Yes the Gosford Hieroglyphics ,in Australia tell us his Dynasty, his journey, "so you go figure"....Our narrative is a lie ..Deceiving ,it doesn't add up ..Fact !!!. the only one thing we are all here for. Is ... GOD!!!!. WE ARE ALL GOD'S CHILDREN IN GODS NAME AND HAND

I have goosebumps

The thing is people kept on using this part of the history and place the Western style of conquest and pillage mode into comparison. The ideology of taking ships 10 times the scale of the Western ships to sea and going around the ocean isn't about conquesting and colonizing another region. It is simply to establish a wider presence and possible trade routes.

@kingkenny2797

2 жыл бұрын

Very true indeed.

@radrook7584

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Not predatory at all.

@lianghao7128

2 жыл бұрын

I'll tell you the real reason... What Chinese fleets see is ancient South Asia and Africa, they saw people half naked and women with breasts exposed. You can imagine the Chinese think that the farther away they go from China, the less civilization there will be，all the world except China are savages，there is no civilization elsewhere. Very unpleasant theory, but very likely. They know the existence of ancient Rome and Europe, but out of arrogance, people would rather believe that they are the center of civilization, and others are inferior to themselves. After that China just deliberately isolated itself.

@Nollic15

Жыл бұрын

The Chinese just wish they could have done what the Europeans did.

@hexingcan

Жыл бұрын

But in essence, it still shows the fact that the Chinese had the power to do what the Europeans did but chose not to.

Very good documentary!

Amazing video history.respect u👍

By that size of the fleet, China could also start their colonization globally in the early of 15th century, plus they had the most advanced firearm, cannon, gun etc. The reason why they didn't colonize is because they were too wealthy at that time. There empire under Ming Dynasty had enough wealth, treasure, food and so on. It wasn't necessary for them to colonize other lands when they already had the best land. Portugal and Spain were poor with limited resources before the age of discovery, that was the reason why they desperate on colonization.

@bluskies1000

5 жыл бұрын

Vikings too. Also Great England and Scotland, people were desperate and starving. for lack of arable land.

@RUHappyATM

5 жыл бұрын

@@tinahedge5569, and yet they have bred over a billion! Its not the size that counts, its how you use it. Geez, I feel humorous today.

@peiranzhang4283

5 жыл бұрын

@@RUHappyATM uh, it's because China actually had real medicine, we don't believe that bleeding can help illnesses, so our children can live to 60, not dying by droves at 5.

@RUHappyATM

5 жыл бұрын

@@peiranzhang4283, WTF does breeding has to do with bleeding?

@peiranzhang4283

5 жыл бұрын

@@RUHappyATM Chinese birth rate was almost identical to Europe. But in Europe, if a children is sick, they would cut the children to release "evil spirts" In China, they would be given herbal medicine, which means the infant mortality rate would be much less in China. And also China had better farming technology, so less children starved to death too. Plus rice produces more calaries per acre.

They walked away peacefully but world wouldn't let them go.

@uio890138

2 жыл бұрын

Calling the ancient Chinese peaceful is about like calling Jon Holmes asexual.

@benice6908

2 жыл бұрын

@@uio890138 china really wasn’t the type of invade well besides the yuan dynasty

@lolsmo395

2 жыл бұрын

@@benice6908 tang? han dynasties? oh, and qing also

Very helpful for my history class - thank you! 1:23

@johnmuldoon9228

2 жыл бұрын

Lucky you're not a dog.

Amazing history of China... Respect 🙏🙏🙏

Yuan Ming Yuan Treasure still place in UK Narriator will claims those evidence as honour and victory But never feel shame it was just trophies robbed by 8 empire of loots…

Even three years later after the issue of this video I am still very fascinated by this story. I am proud of being a Chinese.

@whkwole6842

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately some Chinese believe Zheng He's voyages story is a fiction, and was unknowingly pushed to the world as history.

@rg-pq1kb

Жыл бұрын

Even after China committed the greatest mass murder ever on the world?

I think one of the reason why the Chinese did not choose to colonise other lands is that China had already expanded more territory and population than what an ancient government can actually control during each dynasty.

@taro7145

3 жыл бұрын

China has no incentives to colonize other lands. European has a real reason to colonize as they want to dominate to spices trade. It’s all about money.

@kennytsang1186

3 жыл бұрын

@@taro7145 agree, as Chinese are rich inside with long history and colorful culture. they need to nothing to prove their existence.

@maggiejetson7904

3 жыл бұрын

There is also a concerned of civil war when an empire is too large to manage

@maolo76

3 жыл бұрын

@daniel yu wrong. China never really expanded their territory except when she was rule by foreign power. China expanded during the Mongle rule and then the Qing. So its not proper to say Chinese people conquer other lands. China just kept it together all the lands that was conquer under foreign rule.

@sontayatoemsook1266

3 жыл бұрын

what about Tibet?

Thanks !

he mapped the world, marco polo saw this map, which led to columbus setting out

@shepwillner7507

2 жыл бұрын

I respectfully disagree: Marco Polo visited China during the late 13th century. Admiral Xeng Ho sailed either in the 15th or 16th century; no way he mapped the world and sent Columbus sailing West to the New World.

An excellent documentary, shame so few of the viewers scroll down to leave a like. Thank you.

@sc3304

5 ай бұрын

That's because they are CCP bots

I've no idea when this documentary was made, but the historian is definitely wrong about Chinese contact with Australia. I grew up in Australia's remote tropical north and know that evidence of Chinese contact prior to European contact abounds. Chinese Middle Kingdom coins and 900 year old African coins have been discovered on islands just off the Northern Territory coast, presumably from a Chinese treasure shipwreck. More recently, documentary and even photographic evidence has been unearthed from Spanish and Dutch administrators in the Philippines and Indonesia describing Australian aboriginal crews on Chinese junks prior to European settlement of northern Australia. Chinese junks are depicted in aboriginal rock art, and linguists also point to language similarities between some southeast Asian regional dialects and the languages of aboriginal groups along the north coast of Australia. And finally, Chinese historical records reveal a increase in the importation of trepang (dried sea cucumber) from Australia that precisely coincide with this period in Chinese history. On the whole, a very unsatisfying and poorly researched show - just another example of European cultural imperialism.

@Kwanglebeh

6 жыл бұрын

Guangzhou traders were in contact with Australian Aboriginals in the top end way before European settlement.

@karlrobbins7664

6 жыл бұрын

They think the coins could have come from Indonesian traders.

@lezzman

6 жыл бұрын

I can't remember where I heard it, but I remember a program that said the dingo was introduced into Australia by the Chinese rather than Aborigines. Of course I cannot guarantee that statement's veracity and I'm watching this in bed late at night so I'm certainly not going to start researching it now!

@nickburningham5143

5 жыл бұрын

You are confusing Chinese with Macassan (Indonesian) contact. Evidence for Portuguese and Spanish contact before the Dutch is very poor.

@phantomwalker8251

5 жыл бұрын

@Lon Chan the pieri riese map was taken from space,thousands of yrs ago.with cameras..!!..deny that.!!!.

Great documentary

What an ultimate power trip! # Like a boss

the philosophy of not conquering the world but living together with the rest of world made China last five thousand years sustained civilization. not stealing land from the native Indians is the key for a longlasting civilization.

@ReasonAboveEverything

2 жыл бұрын

You are suggesting Chinese dynasties never acquired land that belonged to someone else?

@swedsteve93

2 жыл бұрын

5000 year "sustained" civilization?? What kinda weird rules/guidelines are you using for that?

@G107nationalroad

Жыл бұрын

@@ReasonAboveEverything China's territory is formed by cultural integration, which was formed by the integration of various ethnic groups when they ruled China

Ming China gave up the seas just as the Europeans, starting with the Portuguese, committed to it. As to why the Ming looked inward one often neglected reason was that the ruling class did not really benefit from the sea trade, they derived their wealth from agricultural production. The sea trade made a segment of the trading class extremely wealthy and increasingly powerful, threatening the old land-owning aristocrats and some of their Confucian allies in the Imperial Court (whose power came from land and agricultural taxes). When they had the chance they were determined to kill the sea trade.

@jianqiaocao2446

Жыл бұрын

Zheng Chenggong: Gave up the seas？

@user-ei4kd4hd9v

Жыл бұрын

It is caused by officials' fear of death, and the other one is internal and external troubles, fearing that external enemies will break in.

This was a very interesting historical video 📹 🤔.

Really good video

Love the idea of China discovering North& South America!😄

@tunissaadia8064

2 жыл бұрын

Native wouldn’t be massacred!

@generalripper7528

2 жыл бұрын

@Smoking_Phat_Blunts The Polynesians were great seafarers.

The name of Xeng He is nowhere near as well-known as it should be. He was everything Columbus wanted to be.

@neganrex5693

4 жыл бұрын

Xeng had more toys to play with and more money, power and privilege to throw around. I could only imagine what Columbus could do if he had Xeng kind of resources but you got to play the cards you get.

@neganrex5693

4 жыл бұрын

@Eddie Simongkhonh The problem with America is some people don't know their history. Hint.

@billtucker3934

4 жыл бұрын

You will find that Columbus had balls.

@PixieElixir

4 жыл бұрын

negan rex slaughter more native Americans?

@johnteh3612

4 жыл бұрын

@Eddie Simongkhonh The Chinese travelled the East ward route to America.Look at the Eskimos and the American Indians do they look Polynesians or Orientals?

6:57 what type of video format/style is that? Animation or something else?

Excellent documentary 👏👏👏👏. Didn't read this on any history books or been told in school.

@legpol

11 ай бұрын

Armani : Chinese history books used in their schools might be telling a novelist story as a historical one. If we read the original book 瀛涯勝覽 written by Ma Huan (馬歡），self-claimed Zheng He's interpreter, we might find that the Zheng He voyages to be a novel instead of being a history. We could even find so by asking the video host doctor Wang Tao to sail his ship back to Nanjing. The trick is, no sail ships can operate in running waters; sail ships can only operate in still waters. Yet according to Chinese narratives, Zheng He had returned to Nanjing from the sea. This returning to Nanjing apparently betrayed the historical nature of Zheng He's story. Will the historical professors take the challenge?

fascinating story :D damned clever those Chinese ! don't recall ever seeing western tall ships with staggered mast arrangements like the eastern treasure ships - gargantuan !

@user-wu2ph4de4o

5 жыл бұрын

Especially considering that ships were like 5 times slower than European and could not withstand big waves. The European square rig would demonstrate a remarkable ability to sail windward as noted by both Chinese and European sources it was better than a Junk rigged ship could do. Interesting why would small countries like the Netherlands with 1.5 million people in the 17th century have huge colonies in South East Asia like 15-ish thousand kilometres from their homeland and just a couple of kilometres from China? And how is that possible that the Portuguese were carrying cargo between China, Korea and Japan in the 16th century - just a hundred years after that so cool fleet of billion kilometre long wooden ships. Same about the navigation etc. Astrolabe and other navigation devices were better in Europe and up to the fall of Ming in the mid 17th century, the best astronomers in Beijing were Jesuits lol. Chinese, Korean and Japanese were usually sailing near the coastal lines, not in the midst of an ocean.

@Player_Review

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-wu2ph4de4o You make fair valid points. Thanks for your insight.

@votesus9819

6 күн бұрын

@@user-wu2ph4de4oyes but that was 250 years after Zheng Be

Poor Admiral never find his way to Mecca for his pilgrimage.

Super Documentary very well done 👍

@legpol

11 ай бұрын

The so-called document might be a novel instead of being a history. Common sense tells us that if a story is too extraordinary, it is most likely the story is false. I believe this common sense should apply to the Zheng He story. This very story is very extraordinary as the ships were too big, too numerous, too fast they were built (about a few days a ship), and too fast to disappear (in a split second).

@legpol

10 ай бұрын

I don't think this video to be a document. To qualify to be a document, it should show us real ships used by Zheng He 600 years ago. Like what is happening in Egypt. Their ships were those built 5000 years ago. This video might have shown us a novelist dream; there was nothing concrete.

I am always curious what happens at the end of these epic but seemingly one way journeys. Do they sail back, stopping at different ports? Do they sell the boat and fly or travel back some other way? Fabulous adventure anyway :)

@harukrentz435

2 жыл бұрын

They went back safely to China after visiting various ports in Southeast Asia, India, and Africa. The sail route itself was known for generations before Zheng He, so the voyage wasnt intended to open new trade but just to show the "world" just how rich the Ming Dynasty was.

@harukrentz435

2 жыл бұрын

So after that it got scrapped and voyage was no more.

@simonlovett151

2 жыл бұрын

@@harukrentz435 thank you for the information :)

@factorerivative

2 жыл бұрын

@@expungebad that’s cool

@lisa.e5776

Жыл бұрын

They sailed back without invaded any country unlike columbus 。 THIS proved that the Chinese is not aggresive from within their Dna 。 They taught local people the technics of agricultural and trade ， exchange local spices and goods 。 From times to times some sailor stayed and married with local women。

I believe the Chinese were far ahead of other civilizations for a long time. Their innovations and invention were astonishingly creative and economically productive long before other countries had even begun to think in terms of this type of progress. Their morels and spiritual ideals based upon , ancestry and family , seems to have created a balance or outlook on life not achieved by other means . I think the Chinese had a unique understanding about the important aspects of life and death that took most other people a long time to figure out....Right or wrong...these are just my thoughts.

@bluskies1000

5 жыл бұрын

Agriculture took a very early start in Yellow River area, which is very easy land to farm. It was and still remains the best agricultural land on Earth. This was the birth place of all "Chinese" civilization. Then the lucky farmers were over run by the Aryans bringing wagons, chariots, horses etc upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/29/Powerful_landlord_in_chariot._Eastern_Han_25-220_CE._Anping%2C_Hebei.jpg/280px-Powerful_landlord_in_chariot._Eastern_Han_25-220_CE._Anping%2C_Hebei.jpg

@Player_Review

5 жыл бұрын

The Egyptians also managed great things in their time, though via different paths to their successes. In those early times, since Sumeria cultivated wheat, farming was key to any settlement that would grow into a great world power.

@johnteh3612

4 жыл бұрын

Words of wisdom, Indeed!

@alexbosorogan7501

2 жыл бұрын

Really does not matter. What matter is that China managed to shut themself in the knee since Han conquests and just did not do too much in the past 1000 years. A corrupt to the top society is doomed, as is doomed today US (China is notoriously corrupt as well). We may say thank you to China for challenge our society, we grown lazy. They will have a surprise when we'll finish with the pandemic and start focus on them.

@themarxisttechnocrat

2 жыл бұрын

​@@alexbosorogan7501 Man, are you people projecting and delusional or what? "Just did not do too much in the past 1000 years." lol. Literally, you're talking about western history after the Roman Empire fell. Its called teh Dark Ages in the West for a reason. Meanwhile China continue to grow and build relationships with the rest of the world. So many inventions came during this period of China that you said "did not do too much". lololololol And mate, you have been focused on trying to conquer China since the Qing Dynasty. Could barely beat them then and not in Vietnam or Korea. So good luck.

Nice story with your teams exploring as Cheng Ho

He found the stone tablet.... in a museum. Cutting edge archeology indeed

Prof. Andrew Lambert gives his personal explanations to historical events from western point of view, specially when it comes to Chinese emperor and his goals. China and Chinese now, and specially then, have different values toward life.You have to take into account influence of confucianism, taoism and buddhism in China vs christianity in the west.

@tdn4773

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't Zheng He muslim?

@brankafuritrogrlic3787

2 жыл бұрын

@@tdn4773 Yes.

@oscarchute6040

2 жыл бұрын

@@tdn4773 Admiral Zenghe was a Muslim. Islam was in China since the 10th Century but only as a minority.

@tanl7756

2 жыл бұрын

The Chinese were not the colonialist type of people. That is a white upstart thing.

@djtan3313

2 жыл бұрын

@@tdn4773 yes. That shows how cosmopolitan Ming China already was.

I was told that one ship survived,and returned to China,so is there evidence of this trip in China or was it all burned.The late Noel Hilliam`s radio carbon dating of a piece of the wreck came out at 5000 years but this does not mean that the actual boat was of that age.Still it is very exciting

Very interesting

Not the Japanese music immediately as the video starts 💀💀💀

They came to New Zealand ... Chinese pottery was found i. .People have discovered up north in the Hokianga Harbour ...Even the ribs of old fleetships were washed up here and the coast of Oregon

@velavanlaack9134

4 жыл бұрын

Richard Morgan in Oregon? Where? No one mentioned, guess history will be rewritten

@asaenvolk

4 жыл бұрын

@@velavanlaack9134 They haven't, there is a reason they are generally not mentioned.

@asaenvolk

4 жыл бұрын

The "ribs of old feetships" were just tree trunks buried under beach sand, it was a case of a group of hopefuls REALLY REALLY jumping the gun.

@richardmorgan3093

3 жыл бұрын

@@velavanlaack9134 New Zealand and Oregon .. They even came out to take them away ....One man took a rib from the ship and got it carbon tested it was 5000 to 6 thound years old .Chinese tree.. ..Skeletons in the cupboard on you tube ..at one time Chinese ruled the waves

@richardmorgan3093

2 жыл бұрын

@@asaenvolk yes they did ...research before you make such a comment

Its very Interesting the fact that Typhon in ancient Greek mythology was a monstrous serpentine giant . We Greeks believe that this monster gave its name to this monster like wind Typhoon and in this video I 've learned that it truly comes from Chineese!

@ChristianAuditore14

2 жыл бұрын

The Chinese dragons are just typholns

What happened to it's expedition in the end of Indian Ocean mission?

Here before 50k

Your channel is absolutely amazing! Thank you so so very much for the information you put out there. And you don’t just put it out there, you do it very skillfully and in a way that’s very easy to understand! You have no idea how grateful I am to be able to access this wealth of knowledge for free. Thank you for teaching me about the past every day! I wish more people used this platform for education instead of nonsense!

Funny how Elizabeth had nothing but "pirates" in your other video. But everyone here is noble and good. *LMFAO*

@azwanrazali296

3 жыл бұрын

It's true

@KK-vp8be

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you even wasted your time watch this if you think this is untrue...

@mahfoudseraf5995

2 жыл бұрын

@@azwanrazali296 yeah it's true that this video is inaccurate

@mahfoudseraf5995

2 жыл бұрын

@@KK-vp8be why not?

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With the navigational skills at the fleets disposal; for that time in Chinese history it's possible that they travelled around the globe. There is evidence from the Southern eastern coast of Africa that there were trade with China in the early middle ages.

@harukrentz435

2 жыл бұрын

The route was already known. The trade among China, Southeast Asia (esp Indonesia), India, Arab, Africa, & Egypt was already thousand years old at Zheng He's time. The Srivijava Empire of Indonesia was a hub for chinese monks who wanted to study buddhism in India in the 6th century.

@joao49758

Жыл бұрын

@@harukrentz435 Exactly. They added little to navigational knowledge. And good luck navigating the Atlantic ocean with such big boats without knowing what you were doing. For ocean exploration, smaller and agile ( like the portuguese created caravel ) was the ideal fit at the time.

What became of Precious Dragon?

Very beautiful music at the end of the video

Every Chinese person who knows his home country's history, knows of Zheng He's treasure voyages.

@joeburns88

6 жыл бұрын

His voyages unfortunately didn't help in the long run. Now Christopher Columbus was a great voyager, and the significance of his three voyages changed the world.

@Shenzhou.

6 жыл бұрын

Joe Burns Zheng He's voyagers helped put China on the radar with our regional neighbours. It's part of the reason why there are so many people of Chinese ancestry in Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, etc.

@Lightspit

6 жыл бұрын

peter gho@ The Chinese did not discovered Africa before Europeans because Europeans were already there. Civilization was destroyed there already 3 times and Europeans were never out of Africa. You forget that Egypt already was at war with the Hittite Empire and we know today that the Hittites were of European origin. Ancient Greeks were already in heavy trading with the Egypt and founded several colonies in the North of Africa. There is no prove that China discovered Australia before the Dutch. China has enough great realizations and doesn't really need fake ones.

@joeburns88

6 жыл бұрын

peter gho he didn't kill natives or steal their land. That was other explorers after him. Please note, back in history, all places including Asia had violent episodes in which greed brought out the worst in people, including China in the 50s and 60s (Mao anyone) - millions were starved/killed.

@Shenzhou.

6 жыл бұрын

Joe Burns Mao Zedong did not kill millions people out of "greed". They were starved unintentionally because of events like the Great Chinese Famine during 1950s and 1960s. And Chinese people are still majors in our own lands, but look at Native Americans and Australian aboriginals. They were once the majority but have been reduced to being minorities in their own lands.

Lots of ads but good doc.

Gotta admit, those are some pretty dope looking boats.

I don't know why we have been taught history in this way every time I expose myself to new information like this i find myself keen to get more so why we overlook this point with new generation.thanks a lot for your efforts

@legpol

Жыл бұрын

Gehan Adel: Some people believe the Zheng He voyages were not history, but a novelist fiction. They based on their belief on the extraordinary events told, such as the size of Zheng's ships which was reported to be bigger than a football field, and 317 such huge ships were reported to be built in less than 3 years, etc. Do you believe people were capable of building so many huge wood ships at such a fast speed?

They was here too... last week, when I went to the Take-Away.

there is a book around that says most of the early maps were made by chinese sailors long before columbus sailed the seas------

@dwprada120307

5 жыл бұрын

Classic of Mountains and Seas 山海经 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_of_Mountains_and_Seas

Very true.

1:00 "everything old, is new again"

@designthinkingwithgian

3 жыл бұрын

"Nothing new exists under the Sun"

5:30 Lut Gholein?!??

There is a book in English language wrote Ming dynasty fleets reached Africa. Book title is 1644.

@weekiang6247

2 жыл бұрын

Ming dynasty already gone

Frankenstiensense love the stuff !..lol

Three years later (since this was posted) and this historical oversight is beginning to be rectified. And we’re all gonna pay.

Zheng he did discovered the world, we just don’t want slaves.

@nicolaspace1182

3 жыл бұрын

Zheng He was Muslim.

@NUSORCA

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicolaspace1182 and was an eunuch

@BielichDai

3 жыл бұрын

What is china colonizing africa right now for. What are the muslims and sweatshops in China?

@scarletnadineconcepcion7426

3 жыл бұрын

True... but that was centuries ago. The China now is far different from the China during the 15th century.

@ferbsol2334

3 жыл бұрын

you just build sweatshops in africa lmao go larp elsewere as liberator chang

It’s interesting to observe that the (Lambert) commentator can just project the obvious Anglo way of thinking. I’m sure the Chinese of the 15th Century had another view of their rol in the surrounding world outside the empire. The fact that they didn’t attempt to invade, to sack, to conquer or colonize shows what is the Chinese rol into the world and what separate them with the Europeans and their descendants.

@owo5869

3 жыл бұрын

navegante zen You know those Europeans worldview is simple get to China whereas you don't need to get to China when you are China. Colonies are just a happy accident or unhappy for the ppl who got colonized. Still we should thank them for enabling what was the modern world trade economy or large plantation we have now derived from those large slave ones, bonds, insurance and many technology all followed soon after those big profits they get from colonization.

@legpol

3 жыл бұрын

navegante zen: Your statement "The fact that they didn’t attempt to invade, to sack, to conquer or colonize shows what is the Chinese rol into the world and what separate them with the Europeans and their descendants." doesn't apply to land territories because there are 56 native nations currently surviving in China; they were all invaded, sacked, conquered by China. Why China did not invade in the maritime domain was because the great fleet never existed. It existed only in a novelist story. If you like, please read this article: 郑和下西洋乃是个夸大到千万倍的虚假宣传.

@ReasonAboveEverything

2 жыл бұрын

Got to love the unapologetic hyper racist statement.

a waking giant... Napoleon i believe said that

What is the name of the Beautiful erhu song??

They say ancient Chinese artifacts pop up on US west coast . I have no doubt.

@levelazn

2 жыл бұрын

we build chinatowns everywhere, including space

Good documentary! I agree with the commenters here who have said that China had contact with Australia. There is some evidence of that (which has been mentioned) and Australia is not all that far from Indonesia, where trade has been carried out for many centuries. It would have been easy for the Chinese to go from Indonesia to Australia.

@gregb6469

5 жыл бұрын

Since there was nothing in Australia at that time except scattered Stone Age tribes, there was no reason to go there, and no reason to record the fact if you did happen to accidentally land there.

@lindamawby7323

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but when they got to Australia, not much there hey.

2021 nothings changed yo !

Just a random jolly with a bit of history. Weird

The main reason is that there was no peer pressure from neighboring countries for the government of the Ming Dynasty.

The Wu Di emporers fleet commanded by Zheng He came to new zeakand...the dalai lama came here and spoke of the records he was taught from that were in the lamaseries in tibet...these talk of the monks living with Maori for a longish time while the fleet was mapping the coastline...during this mapping time the Mahuika meteorite impacted in the southern tasman sea causing massive tsunami (~150 mtrs) that destroyed vast numbers of ships...

29:40 Lut Gholein from Diablo 2 theme song???

the audio transcription is funny, it always transcripts zhudi as judy xd

There is a new Zealand myth that a Chinese fleet was sailing around new Zealand around 500 years ago there was a large tidal wave that destroyedbthe fleet except 1 ship that was ancered behind an island and made it home to tell the story.there has been egg shell China found in New Zealand beaches and a large ship Skelton made of chines wood that was very old 6000 years with testing .egg shell China was only made for a short time matching this fleets time frame

@krisskross3076

5 жыл бұрын

probably a meme propagated by the Chinese government as an element to manipulate people into believing China had a right to own or influence New Zealand in the future.

@TerrariaFanKid

4 жыл бұрын

@@krisskross3076 Ignorance does a lot to people, like it has to you

@yopin7026

4 жыл бұрын

@@krisskross3076 lol meme? Bruh...

@Elitial

2 жыл бұрын

Woah very interesting, thanks for sharing!

I see that you have never opened a can of meat with a key. The key is turned and not pulled. The turning of the key provides more than ample force to rip the metal strip from the can.