Do the farmers have a point? What do you think should be done?

@thegamingbird101

15 күн бұрын

Yes, but this is just too much

@gregvanpaassen

15 күн бұрын

Good summary! Of course just scratching the surface but no-one would watch a twenty-four hour video that went a bit deeper. This is the century of consequences.

@agrodrone9944

15 күн бұрын

Cut public spending, open new oil refineries so fuel will cost less, cut taxes and burocracy. Leave us alone in peace

@bertilhatt

15 күн бұрын

The claims that they care about nature, the land, or the sustainability of food sounds a little different when you ask about global warming and bio-diversity. They also say that the protests are against the larger farms, but they are organized by lobbies financed by large farms.

@Zednor9

15 күн бұрын

Farmers are absolutely being squeezed unfairly. It's important to look at the big picture here. Climate change is an existential threat, and we must begin addressing it in a meaningful way. Farming practices are major contributors to climate change and need to change, and there are well proven alternatives that work at scale. The costs of changing how we farm cannot simply be foisted onto the farmers without additional changes to make that feasible. A lot of the cost of that should be regulated to come out of the price gouging that's being funneled to a few ridiculously wealthy executives. The prices of food should not be allowed to rise much, as doing that would just be foisting the burden from the farmers to the poor and struggling masses. At the root, like most of today's issues, the problem and solution is largely in massive wealth inequality fueled by greedy executives and governments that are captured and complicit with the continuation of that wealth imbalance.

Everything comes down to how the money is distributed along the supply chain, the farmers get the bare minimum even when consumers pay more and more. So we, as consumers, pay extra for being "greener" but that is wasted on the middle men and the ones who may have to expend more to produce still get the same amount.

@wizaaeed

10 күн бұрын

The solution, ignore the middle men & the government & connect straight with your local farmers. Farming was done way before there was governments to regulate them or whatever

@yucol5661

10 күн бұрын

@@wizaaeedif farming was not protected by the government they wouldn’t keep their property and would immediately loose their lifestyle due to market forces. They’d just be bought out by real large successful farming businesses. Only a few farmers in lucky areas and who produce luxury goods would survive. They just don’t farm well enough.

@Wkwkwkland904

4 күн бұрын

​@@yucol5661 "protected by the government" lol 😂

i dont like the idea that to compensate for the increased costs on the lower end, the consumers will have to pay more while the corporations still rip everyone off and make a fortune

@NooshaSheep

15 күн бұрын

..because ultimately the corporations have to make a fortune in order to keep their company's value increasing on the stock markets, lest the stock market crumbles and that does something else to the economy.. *shrug*

@Zednor9

15 күн бұрын

@@NooshaSheep "the economy" is now mainly just a nice way to spin "more wealth for the wealthy". The *real* economy is almost entirely detached from the often described economy, as based on stock valuations that are based on fraudulent and manipulative practices that are also only backed up by fiat currencies that are also manipulated and effectively fraudulent. In practical terms, the psychopathic wealth imbalance we're experiencing worldwide is the root of most modern problems, and addressing that is ultimately necessary to start mitigating and improving nearly anything.

@sandponics

14 күн бұрын

Grow your own food in your back yard and screw the corporations.

@unconventionalideas5683

11 сағат бұрын

Corporations have a lot of money to some extent only because of scale. However, the margins that they are experiencing are thinning, not expanding, and that might just mean that the whole agribusiness model is becoming unviable.

and still the rich are getting away with their greed.

@homo-sapiens-dubium

14 күн бұрын

everyone is greedy, not just the rich. Why else are people buying factory farmed meat for 3.50 instead of better one for 4.50, while still owning / leasing an expensive car that costs thousands of euros per month (at least in value-deprecation)? Lots of people that are not "rich" do that too

@sandponics

14 күн бұрын

And the poor are still spending all their money on bling.

If farmers only control production but have little say in after market and retail they will be like tenant farmers or serfs. The Coop model and farmers joining together needs to be the tool to have a stake in retail and after market processing. If your business model is dependent on a €25,000 diesel refund you need a new business model. They have to move beyond being independent contractors. Commodity crops are risky bets today in light of seed companies squeezing you and heavy equipment costs. All the best.

So if the farmer advocacy group says it's the big chains' outsized bargaining power, and the farmers say it's the big chains' outsized bargaining power, why is the farmers' demand that diesel subsidies and pesticide use be continued? I would be looking at the big chain side of things, rather than at the production end... Can anyone help me better understand the rational?

@OW79

15 күн бұрын

The farmers that actually make all the money are themselves pretty big corporations. They don't give a shit about nature, animal welfare or their impact on the earth. They're here to make cold hard cash. They've been actively been subsidized for decades, but instead of investing that in healthy, sustainable farming practices they inriched themselves. The people you see protesting here are stupid farm hands that have been underpaid by their rich ass farmer bosses who rile up their workers against the EU (you know, the guys who are the entire reason these farmers are here to begin with, they would have gone bankrupt ages ago if it weren't for the subsidies), while they're the cause of a lot of the shit. 10% of the millionaires in my (EU) country are farmers.

@BiranjanMishra0789

15 күн бұрын

Because farmers dont take extra charge on the crop when they affected badly by weather conditions and unpredicted rains and so on, they bear the lost itself.

@dynamogaming4953

15 күн бұрын

Same in india here we have to pay their loans thought taxes and their electricity bill on our bill i e general working class also they waste a lot of water 😅

@vylbird8014

14 күн бұрын

Because due to simple economy of scale, a small farmer can't hope to compete on fair grounds with a far larger farm. They can get supplies cheaper in bulk, transport goods with lower overhead, and farm more intensively. The age of the small farm and that bucolic life is dead.

@hhwippedcream

13 күн бұрын

Because the corps can force farmers to accept their price (way too low) for yields that may not make sense without adherence to typical monocultural plantation practices and have a stranglehold on the market. If the farmer can't sell to the one conglomerate or abattoir or other middleman monopolizing their region they can't get their product to market. The farmers are between a rock and a hard place. If there were more distributors, they would have to compete for the best crops. We live in a world where farmers are forced to shop at and sell to the same "company store". The middle is monopolized and has no incentive to get off the gravy train. Unfortunately, because of this, farmers have such slim margins that when good natured policies designed to thwart climate change are enacted, they hurt people (like farmers) who don't have the economic "slack" due to the above mentioned system and they are pushed into fight or flight. If you cannot meet corporate demands through any means of production other than the system the corporate interests offer you are faced with 100 percent of the burden of adapting disproportionate to your ability to adapt in comparison to the mega corps that has its hand wrapped around your throat.

If large supermarkets weren't unnecessarily charging upwards of 90% the value of the produce, then prices could quite naturally decrease for food. But no one is going after them because money runs policy.

Monocultures do not work without additives like fertilizers and pesticides. They also are most cost effective at very large scales. I think small farmers especially should transition to polyculture systems, which when planned properly require very little inputs/costs and can increase biodiversity in the area.

@CD-kg9by

12 күн бұрын

The EU doesn't have any real monocultures. Polyculture is a part of the shared policies.

@Gallus-gallus

5 күн бұрын

I think, both of you have a different view of the word "monoculture". Some see in it just one crop on a field at the same time, some see the same crop on one field multiple years after another.

I buy Directly from organic farmer (he has 30 certificates) in Bellary, Karnataka, India. This farmer is most innovative organic farmer, who has almost 50% more output without use of any chemical fertilizers or pesticides. Food is super tasty and full of nutritients. This farmer makes more than a crore from 5 acres of land. He is selling directly to consumers in Bangalore. This model can help both consumers and farmers.

@kueichenglee7583

10 күн бұрын

Woowwwwaaa

@axel3895

6 күн бұрын

This model stops working as soon as everybody starts doing it. Remember sri lanka

the overall concept seems so weird. While the majority of wages, pensions &c stagnates and rarely gets adjusted to inflation properly (while being too low in the first place anyway) and the overall product qualitiy (again-in the majority) suffers so shareholders can make the promised profits, the absolute base-level producers have to suffer( and we polute the planet while doing it-yay for us) It's a bit like the comparison between people, who do jobs our society wouldnt be able to function without, but are not well regarded and badly payed to something like a hedge fond manager or certain CEOS, who basically have to be sociapaths to do the job they do the way they do it, but are regarded has over-achievers, unreplacable members of society and get paid perverted wages. It's as if there might be a flw in this unhinged predator capitalism we allowed to develop and - apparently - become THE ONLY viable option judging by the curriculums of the majority of economic schools and universities. but ofc you can't say that the system is flawed, because then people will hit you with that "must be a socialist, must be anti progress" mace. we created a society that is OBVIOUSLY flawed on basically every level of its structure (and mi9ght evry well be described as a modern, wealth/money based feudalism) starting with earliest education, but also have undermined all forms of authority (we dont trust the media, we dont trust the government, we dont trust the justice system, we dont trust each other) and by that the means to change it. It's baffling.

Shipping food around the world has to stop. Food needs to be local and in season.

@MikeKing-cj9cx

15 күн бұрын

Look to Australia in the coming 12 month for a way forward. The ability to produce food, water and energy in any location around the world has been developed for the benefit of farmers and citizens alike especially in places like Africa, Pakistan and southeast Asia. Watch this space.

@LungaMasilela

13 күн бұрын

Personally I think that’s impractical.

@DWPlanetA

12 күн бұрын

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@MikeKing-cj9cx

12 күн бұрын

@@DWPlanetA What about the increase of rouge waves, sea based cyclones, tornadoes, etc you have more than emissions to solve if you think shipping is going to continue in the future. Take the Suez canal drying up as another consideration or are we just going to ignore all the cold hard facts. Its bad enough now let alone in 10 years time

@shucklesors

12 күн бұрын

insane, white woman developed world privilege coming out of this sabine8419 child's mouth 😂😂

Happy to hear sandstorm as the anthem for farmers protest. The system is broken

@siddhantkundargi2734

15 күн бұрын

This 😂

@MikeKing-cj9cx

15 күн бұрын

Look to Australia in the coming 12 month for a way forward. The ability to produce food, water and energy in any location around the world has been developed for the benefit of farmers and citizens alike especially in places like Africa, Pakistan and southeast Asia. Watch this space.

@sandponics

14 күн бұрын

The system is fine, but people are stupid.

Brussels should launch a campaign to streamline rules and bureaucracy, bottom 20% of ridiculous rules should be eliminated. Secondly EU should mandate that the price tags in grocery stores display the monetary amount of the price that goes to the farmer (you will be surprised how ridiculously low it is for eggs, litre of milk etc)

@serebii666

15 күн бұрын

Eggs and milk are staple foods that are subject to government subsidies. And for fresh foods, it is well known supermarkets make very little off them, with their razor thin margins. Some perishables are sold at losses and only recouped by other non-perishable goods. And between the farmer and market, you also have the necessary costs of transport, which form the bulk of costs, especially in land-locked countries.

@Hrrrrrrrrrreng

15 күн бұрын

⁠@@serebii666yeah I’ve worked in grocery stores, produce. I also grow my own food. Why is lettuce 4$ a head? I can grow it for cents. I can grow hundreds for cents. Want to say that again? The company I worked for bought it for cents. Then sold it for dollars. (11c buy price, 4-5$ sell price) that’s over a 5000% upsell. For lettuce. blessed I didn’t sign that NDA. In Canada we imported carrots from china, (carrots that grow here quite well) we never have native plants in store (apart from raspberries and strawberries) and it’s all so expensive it’s ridiculous. Especially when most if not all of it can grow here. Greenhouses work well. However, it’s done this way to buy as low as possible and sell as high as possible. They import from poorer countries bc it’s cheaper than growing it here and stimulating the economy. A couple cents cheaper. When they make dollars on each one. Forgive me if I have no faith in how the world’s going.

@serebii666

15 күн бұрын

@@Hrrrrrrrrrreng Lettuce does not cost 4 dollars a head here in Europe (in my city specifically it costs 1.60 EUR, or your 2.35 CAD, and Eurostat data shows transport costs make up about 60% of food costs in my country). But for your North American case, it is likely transportation and distribution logistics costs. Canada especially lacks well developed rail infrastructure for freight distribution, so you rely primarily on more expensive trucking. The CAD has also been losing value precipitously compared to the USD, so if you are importing your vegetables from there, they are getting more expensive by virtue of Canada's weakening currency. And the company you worked for likely bought lettuce futures, they didn't drive out to the fields and picked every single head they bought, right? Not to mention what it actually cost to grow the lettuce itself, if that farmer was subsidized for it, what processes they used etc. I repeat, especially for grocery stores, where competition is incredibly cut-throat, items, especially staples, are very often sold as loss-leaders with costs being recouped in other products (common examples like dried pasta, or ground coffee) I honestly don't understand your effort to insert your individual anecdotal experience and then universally generalize it to places a literal oceans away and with entirely different regulatory, legislative, subsidy structural and cultural norms.

@MikeKing-cj9cx

15 күн бұрын

Look to Australia in the coming 12 month for a way forward. The ability to produce food, water and energy in any location around the world has been developed for the benefit of farmers and citizens alike especially in places like Africa, Pakistan and southeast Asia. Watch this space.

@sandponics

14 күн бұрын

Buy direct from the farm.

Yeah, dropping farming subsidies down to states would absolutely destroy agriculture in Europe, particularly because of French weight on the issue and the size of their budget. Really, what we need in Europe is a genuine discussion about the role of agriculture in our society and economy. Because, as Jeremy Clarkson said in a town meeting, "it is the farmers that maintain the land", to which I add, it would seem we don't value the land enough to truly care... because our incomes are not enough, particularly east and north of Vienna across our economies. And that is something the environmentalists need to come to terms with. That you can't have nice things, if you can't monetarily and fiscally afford them

Food security is global security. Nationalize.

I am not European, actually Australian. But I think that Australia has a similar problem too. Agriculture is essential to life in general so we definitely need to be paying more attention to it.

I am slowly warming to an idea to improve food prices. I know a few farmers, they are on the smaller size, individuals or families. The prices offered to them by the middle man is sometimes 1/5th of what we pay in the market. Farmer markets are not practical anymore, most people will buy from next door grocery store rather than travel 5-10 km to the farmers market. I think the solution to this would be forcing supermarkets of certain size to rent spaces for small farmers for a fair price for direct sale. Something like a distributed farmer's market. This will help local farmers to match prices of large industrial farms while reducing transport emissions as well as biodiversity loss. This type of rent will also promote farmers to diversify their crops so that they could sell multiple crops to customers. Another solution could be something like takeaway produce that are delivered to customer's doorstep directly from the farms. Cutting multiple middlemen to farmer and the transporter. This could also reduce waste if done properly.

@kueichenglee7583

10 күн бұрын

Good ideas

"50 percent of people depend ... on agriculture." No, 100 percent of people depend on agriculture.

@KarlosEPM

15 күн бұрын

Read through the comments. People really seem to be unaware that food just doesn't magically pop up at supermarket shelves. Others are saying that scaling up is the way to go, forgeting that monopolies are enemies of the layman. Crazy time to be alive.

@enterprisestobart

15 күн бұрын

I believe he was referring to employment

@oneshothunter9877

15 күн бұрын

This was about farmers in India.

@BirgitProfessional

13 күн бұрын

I said the same thing. We all depend on agriculture, unless we grow our own food and are self-sufficient (good luck with that). 50 % of people in India may be directly dependent on agriculture for their income, but close to 100 % of people in the world are at least indirectly dependent on agriculture for the food that we eat. (I'm discounting nomadic and hunter-gatherer societies, who still exist in some places and have their own issues for sure)

Our food and agriculture system is broken and unsustainable. Despairing, fearful farmers, paid barely enough to cover their costs work all hours to put food on the plates of consumers not prepared to pay a fair price for their food whilst distributors and supermarkets gouge their profit margins. Their animals, fattened on feed transported half way across the planet and grown in the smoking ruins of the Amazon, casually belch methane to fry the planet whilst their effluent chokes and poisons our rivers, lakes and oceans. Something gotta change, and fast! Meanwhile the farmers blame cheap imports, regulations and environmentalists when the real threat looming is that of precision fermentation and cultured meat which could totally disrupt our food supply. We stand on the threshold of a new agricultural revolution, but I don’t think most people see it coming.

As a soil GHG emissions modeling researcher, I fully support prioritizing small farmers. Despite large farmers occupying more land and emitting more GHG gases while producing less food compared to small farmers, they often make more money.

@Simon-nx1sc

15 күн бұрын

What do you mean "producing less food" ? Are larger farms less efficient in terms of tons of harvest per hectare? Why would that be

@ramureddy7743

15 күн бұрын

Small farmers worldwide, particularly smallholder farms, collectively have a higher overall production compared to big farmers. Smallholder farms, which account for around 12% of the world's agricultural land, produce 29% of the world's crops, 32% of the world's food supply, and play a significant role in maintaining the genetic diversity of our food supply[3]. In contrast, large farms (>50 ha) in specific regions produce 75-100% of certain food groups, but small farms in regions like sub-Saharan Africa and Asia contribute significantly to global food commodities.

@johnsamuel1999

15 күн бұрын

​@@ramureddy7743i think that might be distpred due to large farmers or agro businesses ptoducing cash crops

@ramureddy7743

14 күн бұрын

I suggest/ ask you to sit infront of the web with the same question! All the best

Diesel subsity needs to be seperated into farmer welfare and diesel phaseout. The livelihood of farmers is being tied to using diesel... why not just take away the diesel part and just give them money, but tie it to something else that is beneficial, like being up to date with efficient farming tools.. grants and stipends for farmers who assist new automation, maybe common procurement and and just distributing new tech. The Diesel Welfare?...

@ricksanchez7459

10 күн бұрын

What deere is working on is tethered equipment. Imagine 1000ac fields with 7ft chainlink fence and fully automated 3phase pivot, sprayer, combine in the center.

Pay us farmers for our ecosystem and siocioeconomic sevices. Like clean water and air, biodiversity, rural jobs and so on. This would create a much bigger market and raise our share of the BIP and help internalise the cost of food in to product prices.

I wish I could send this to people in my local community in rural Catalonia. But the auto translation doesn't occur for the pre-subtitled farmers comments.

There are so many easy solutions that would have an effect immediately: subsidise the transistion to ecological / preservative farming, reduce taxes on other kinds of fuel, subsidise the refitting of tractors to run on these kinds of fuels, give farmers tax benefits or other "rewards" for promoting biodiversity and ecological farming. Just taking away and not replacing the diesel subsidy obviously leads to anger. And also: How about actually talking TO the farmers about how they imagine a transistion to a more sustainable farming and not talking ABOUT them in a parliament were no one has a clue about this topic so it seems.

It would be helpful for large scale farmers if there were more small farms that provide for local communities. I think it is a very big job for farmers to have to manage such a large plot of land on their own; the more people get involved with growing diverse foods the better for reducing workload all around. Regenerative practices that help the soil (crop rotation, composting, no pesticide or herbicide use) would also help solve many issues created by monoculture non-organic farming.

The whole economic model of farmers heavily depending on subsidies is the problem, the governemnt is setting a bar they cant reach thus the money is always not enough & farming is never profitable

I think the guy’s last point is very important. I’m not the biggest environmentalist but there are currently plenty of other places where we can curb emissions or otherwise help the environment. Energy production, manufacturing, mining, recycling, transportation, entertainment, plastic, and these are just off the top of my head. All of them are nowhere near as *necessary* as food is. With regards to climate goals or whatever, I say we try and leave the farmers alone as long as we can. I’m sure there are some implementations that could be made and would be relatively painless, but let’s leave the farmers alone and focus our energies elsewhere.

The easiest, fastest, and best way to make farming affordable is Land Value Tax as the Single Tax. Yes, Land Value Tax Solves This, Too. Shifting to taxation only of land values, and not taxation of capital improvements and incomes shifts the primary burden of taxation away from agricultural land and onto highly valuable urban land. Primary industries like agriculture should not be shouldering the primary burden of taxation.

It's just us consumers. We chose the cheapest food but must have the latest cell phone... If we were to chose the higher cost (local small) farm products, they would get their sales in and run profitable operations. There is another overriding issue and that is 1st world vs 3rd world. If we in the 1st want the people in the 3rd to have better lives then we must buy their products. As 3rd world are more likely to be agrarian (and cheaper), then we must accept that our own farms will not be able to compete in the 'general' market. And yet, it is the responsibility of each nation to have enough farming around to feed itself in an emergency. Quite a conundrum...

Honestly, if there’s an entire labor force/sector where we should implement outright basic income, small scale farmers should be it. As long as you’re not being negligent about your operations, you get a livable salary, period. Put a nonprofit, public-backed cooperative-style body between the small farmers and the downstream vultures in the food supply chain; that body can play the game of storage and price negotiation, but the farmers aren’t directly exposed to the high stakes of the market. From there, farmers will have the security to take “risks” in the form of environmental measures. If you cut down on pesticide use one year and experience high crop loss, you get the same salary and you aren’t ruined. The next year, you use a bit more or try a more pest-resilient crop, but the point is you survive the experiment and can continue to use trial-and-error to find the right ecological balance.

Very good and nuanced video, personally I think the matter is complicated, and I do very much believe that farmers should be paid a value for their crops that can actually sustain them. Alongside this I believe that we should have government loans to help farmers electrify their farming equipment (so as to make them less reliant on fossil fuels), and we also need to encourage more sustainable practices (permaculture, aggrovoltaics, hydroponics and similar methods). On top of this though, we also need to just reduce how much farm land we have overall, both for the sake of water cleanliness ('cause if we support farmers to the detriment of the water ecology, then people in the fishing industry just suffer instead), and for the sake of having more natural land in which biodiversity can flourish. This too needs ot be done in a way that actually fairly compensates farmers, but also puts requirements and limitations on what they can, and cannot do.

@1ntwndrboy198

5 күн бұрын

Unionize 😮👍

Farms need to get smaller and be more diversified. I grew up on a farm where we raised cattle, pigs, chickens, rabbits and produced corn, soybeans, alfalfa, and oats. We had a small farm around 2-300 acres. We need to break up these huge corporate farms and agribusinesses. These are the ones doing the most damage to the environment.

11:54 WROOIOOOONG! Agriculture can be carbon neutral and even carbon negative! Its the monocultre system and the paradigm behind it that is the problem! The solution is Syntropic Agriculture. It has been tested efficiently for decades now! At a big, medium and small scale. Look up for the video "life in syntropy".

You can't talk about giving subsidies to smaller more ecological friendly farmers without addressing the enormous issue with animal agriculture. There are simply not enough resources and land to produce enough animal products in an ecological manner.

@Simon-nx1sc

15 күн бұрын

The professor did inderectly talk about it when he said that the prices of high-impact food should rise to change consumer behaviour.

@MikeKing-cj9cx

15 күн бұрын

Look to Australia in the coming 12 month for a way forward. The ability to produce food, water and energy in any location around the world has been developed for the benefit of farmers and citizens alike especially in places like Africa, Pakistan and southeast Asia. Watch this space.

@DWPlanetA

11 күн бұрын

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We need to prioritize what is neccessary. Food, real food is no 1 for our survival, let alone health. We have soo many distractions/ substitutes nowadays in what is real even in terms food we eat.

We are at an acre per person globally, so its going to require nationalization of agriculture by the United Nations and the employment of farmers as government workers. Given the wealthy enjoy a way of life supported by 29 acres that is 28 acres that belonged to othersequal shares is going to reduce them to 3% of what they currently enjoy without output improvements.

At 11:36 it says that for farmers in India price controls seem necessary because 50% of the population are in agriculture. Other measures could also reduce their income volatility. I fail to understand the linkage between the share of the population and price control.

@yucol5661

10 күн бұрын

If 50% loose their income everyone else suffers too. And their population also giving their voices some weight

Here in New Zealand there are NO subsidies for farming. Zilch! Zero! Yet we can raise and ship lamb and beef into the EU market at a lower cost and with less Green House Gas Emissions than if it was farmed there and it has been like this for the last 35 years when the last "minor" subsidies that we had were removed and that was only on fertilizer. Work that one out. And to have a "productive commercial farm" being five hectares. Seriously!. My lifestyle property in Auckland is that size and it is certainly not commercial.

Remove taxes for farmers equipment and consumables like diesel and electricity. And most importantly, restructure the retail chain so every part have a fair profit including the farmer. This can be done by requiring each part to list their purchase and retail price Today the supermarked and large food companies take most of the profit.

Just have to wait for grain prices to rise. Too many middle men too

Look to Australia in the coming 12 month for a way forward. The ability to produce food, water and energy in any location around the world has been developed for the benefit of farmers and citizens alike especially in places like Africa, Pakistan and southeast Asia. Watch this space.

@hamishbracey5411

15 күн бұрын

Can you explain that a little more!

It makes no sense to pressure farmers if we still have private jets and cruise boats completely destroying the climate. Just putting a speed limit on German highways would already save a lot of emissions without causing a life quality decrease... We need to set our priorities right: what is dirty luxury, and thus superfluous, and what is essential. And obviously, the rich have to pay more than the poor, otherwise expect uprisings.

@DWPlanetA

11 күн бұрын

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Support small farms! Support regenerative agriculture!

@sandponics

14 күн бұрын

Support yourself by growing your own food.

@vylbird8014

14 күн бұрын

How many people are willing to pay more for their food in order to support them?

@humanist6256

13 күн бұрын

lol. That’s funny. There are more land managers than farmers. Large scale farming with remote sensing, drones is the future

@vylbird8014

13 күн бұрын

@@humanist6256 You're right. It's just economy of scale. People love the idea of the small family-run country farm, but such businesses can't compete with the true industrial-scale operations that benefit from the economy of scale - they can buy cheaper supplies, in bulk, get more use out of their equipment, and use their land more efficiently. Supermarkets have even taken to inventing fictional farms now to label their food with, giving people the false impression that it came from a 'traditional' farm.

The video does a good job of explaining the frustration of farmers, but I'm surprised that the topic of growing crops for livestock vs. for humans is completely overlooked. Yes, "food [...] is a necessity" but animal-based food is not, and it has an outsized environmental impact, not just in terms of GHG emissions but any resource it requires: land area, fertilizer, antibiotics etc. If EU would focus its agricultural policy on favoring the production of crops for human consumption, it wouldn't have to choose between supporting agriculture and supporting the environment.

@DWPlanetA

2 күн бұрын

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My boss, a wheat farmer of 67 years old..Un-alived himself a few weeks back. Who knows why though...

The way I think about food security is simple: 1) Growing food for billions of pigs, chickens, and cows is inefficient. 2) Taking away food sovereignty from countries in the global south has always been deliberate. Grow plants for people by simply removing subsidies for animal agriculture. Slowly decommodify food and water. It's not complicated, but our politics (and corporate influence) make this impossible. A just transition is necessary for agricultural workers would include paying some farmers to plant other plants (edible natives, edible perennials, pollinator species, trees, etc.), engaging in earthworks, and rewilding. There's a TON of work that needs to be done; we need farmers. Slaughterhouse workers are among the most abused and exploited populations on earth (mostly migrants with PTSD from their work slitting throats 12 hours per day) and they deserve full pensions for the rest of their lives, and healthcare. No child dreams of doing the kind of work they had to do; it's cruel, unnecessary, and bad for their health (and ours).

Framing practices need to change and stop being from the 60s and 70s. Regen farming is a good example. So where i am we have chalk clay soils, naturally poor quality , so sowing clover is a good idea for bring more nitrates into soil on grassland, then you can undersow a crop of say spring barly on the same land, you harvest the crop high which does reduce the yeild granted but then you still have grazing land, you can then take a hay crop of the the land and aftermath graze, till it is time to undersow barley again. 1 area 3 uses per year. 2 potential cash crops. Even if the weather make the barley fail you still had the ability to generate a good income. These are advantages smaller land holders have over industrial farming the larger the area the less diverse the business model. Stop wasting money on using diesel doing unnecessary treatments over land. As for prices set by supermarket suppliers have a union set the prices across the eu for a cooperative of all smaller farmers.

Farmers, especially small farmers may even get a seat at the table, but massive lobby groups such as the big retailers which have a duopoly in Australia make huge profits of which farmers have little benefit, as they are forced to take whatever they can get for their crop. At the same time, workers in those same supermarkets receive low wages, as do farm workers, while CEOs walk away with many times that amount, while urging workers to exercise restraint or there will be job losses and still raising prices for consumers. Another area which should be looked at is the very concentrated nature of our our food supply and the inputs - 5 multinational corporations control virtually all grain produced. Much the same can be said for farm chemicals, food processing and so on. A few companies which act as monopolies or cartels with more power and turnover than nation states. Of course they do not want environmental controls, restraints on using banned products or food labelling etc. which could eat into their profits, so they are exploiting farmers to achieve those goals - making governments, the EU etc the scapegoats

Compost as a fertilizer and pest control. That is how. Biological farming.

I would say it's pretty fair. Farm owners don't pay their employees well. Hand-pickers get paid terribly with no benefits. Farmers would rather buy more land than pay their employees better because they can more money that way. But they don't consider the future market when they buy more land. Then they complain when they didn't make more money. Policies and subsidizes are not guarantees.

@Clancy-lw5qt

15 күн бұрын

Idk where you live but that is definitely not the case where I’m from so I don’t think you can just generalise something like that..

Finally, a sentiment that's pretty grounded to reality, and shared across globally. These people literally FEED us, and in the process contribute not even a fraction of other CO2 emissions that's not necessary for survival. There's no way they deserve anything but the best, and it needs to start with proper financial compensation.

@BinaryBlueBull

15 күн бұрын

This is a bit too simplistic, at least for the situation in my country. I won't comment on other countries though. Over here, they have protested at a large scale. Protests which could more aptly be called riots and attacks on the public, blocking off highways which caused accidents (some of them fatal) vandalism, preventing emergency vehicles getting through because of the traffic jams, there were even a few incidents of tractors smashing through police blockades. These "protests" went on for weeks and once or twice for multiple months. They protested, among other reasons, because a part of them will have to close down to reach climate goals(*see below). I'm not going to get into the debate of whether or not those goals are valid or worth it. What I am going to say is that their central, overarching argument was the same as you mention, "we feed you, therefor you need us and you can't close us down. We will have shortages". The kicker? The part they are intentionally not mentioning? More than 80% of what they produce domestically is exported abroad. Not because it is necessary but because it fetches a higher price internationally. So, "they feed us", well, a minority of them do in reality. So going by that measure, we could close the majority of them and be absolutely fine, which we aren't even going to do, it's going to be a minority which will need to close. And not to mention that they in fact actually feed other nations for the most part, but the pollution they cause only has an impact on our nation, because most of that pollution is localized. If you take that into account, their argument becomes much more unfounded, especially when combined with the last paragraph with the asterisk. They knew this was coming, for close to 20 years, and they chose to ignore it and are now crying about it Besides that, they also protest because they aren't paid enough for their wares. Now, this is kind of true actually, but the real culprits here are the enormous supermarket chains which play the farmers out against each other and demand such low prices that it's straight-up extortion. But it's either that or they don't sell their wares at all, these megacorporations play hard ball because they can. An also all the other people and companies which are in the overly long supply chain and all want a piece of the same pie. Because don't get me wrong, they aren't paid enough indeed, but they are aiming their ire at the wrong target, at the public and the government in stead of their megacorporate overlords who squeeze them dry. They have lost the respect of the of the majority of the public over here because of the way they have rampaged through the country, because they were unable to be reasoned with and because of what I explain above and below (*) Especially goals around around nitrogen emissions. They had been warned 15-20 years ago that they needed to invest and update their infrastructure to lower nitrogen emissions, which was perfectly feasible technologically and was also heavily subsidized. Yet, the majority of them did not invest, in stead choosing to expand their business with the subsidies and produce even more food for export (getting rich doing it) all the while asking for exceptions to the rules and extensions of the deadline for their companies. They have known about this nitrogen issue for more than 15 years and were also told back then that if they didn't act, at some point we were going to have to intervene and mandate action. And now they're crying because they didn't take action in that time period and so now the measures will have to be more severe, like closing a part of them down (and so exporting less to other nations, while maintaining our own food supply easily, multiple times over)

@DWPlanetA

15 күн бұрын

Talking about! Since you addressed nitrogen, we have a video addressing this: "The greenhouse gas no one is talking about" 👉 kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zmt1rNeaibPceqw.html. 🌱

Stop using seeds you can't collect and regrow. Plant seeds that you can collect seeds and plant. Before you say they already can do that well they can't not unless they want to pay 100k in fines.

@farmkid7565

14 күн бұрын

In some European country's it's not even allowed, and I think it bot solved the problem....

The farm laws from India were supposed to target exactly the low income of the farmers part. It would have been a monumental shift from the current system and getting the private sector in to the market as well. Sadly, the "protests" torpedoed the whole initiative... Ohh what could have been. Until when will you give the subsidies to grow the same 2 crops that are huge water guzzlers grown in a monoculture.

Here in Ireland , the milk quotas were abolished in 2012, Dairy Farming has expanded dramatically, Farmers are renting more land , invested heavily in milking parlors and sheds. Now we have water quality issues here and biodiversity loss on farmland, Environmental People are speaking out against intensive dairy here. Farmers are caught into this system now and there is no going back, also labor shortages on farms means farmers are working harder than ever. I think the big dairy companies are driving this rat race here, Where this will all lead to in 20 years time? Bigger farmers and Land owners In Ireland, and less farmers in Ireland. The big boys have the clout and the cash

working 10 to even 16 hours a day every day without vacations or weekends off having to deal with all shorts of problems and all that just to get ripped off in the end the way eu is handling this whole thing is shameful especially the huge bans on pesticides only to import other produce that have had those same pesticides used on them

If this farmer protest happens in india our government and national security agencies have put allegations that these are funded by russia or some other bad diplomatic relation countries (and they plot evidence also easily).

A lot of self-satisfied smiles among thos furious pictured.

Sweet!

This will get a lot worse. The guy who said "they are office people" has the right idea. So long as they can keep eating, they wont care who they hurt (quite literally dont care). Not cynicism but truth. Also, big farms are a problem. They sit on the boards of Aggro businesses, retail/supermarkets etc. and are therefore incentivised to destroy the little farmer so they can buy their land, be the only producers and crank up the prices for their primary products, which will then raise prices on intermediary and final products which they also produce by collectively owning majority of shares in said companies. One idea is to get back to the communal living and growin way of life. A few families get together to buy a farm and grow all their own food and trade for products they need like clothes and so on. Eliminate the need for an aggri business sector. You can all do something. If you have just a tiny bit of space.. raise rabits and eat them.. raise chickens for eggs. Look into aquaponics and self-sufficiency with solar power. The more you manage to produce yourself, the less reliant you are and the more power you take away from "them". That is until it is made illegal somehow.

We in the cities do not provide nearly enough reciprocity to our farmers, who literally feed us every day. But I am also very concerned about the movement being coopted by rightwing culture warriors who will obfuscate actual solutions that work for us all (well if it didn't work for billionaires that would be fine with me)

"centralized planning unintended consequences"

Can't wait when the times come where money doesn't have any value anymore in future.

This is insane..... Without agriculture we all starve!!

I've got a production process that allows farmers to grow a real cash crop. It's not consumed by people through their bodies, but in their vehicles, cars, trucks, boats, aircraft, etc.

@rx58000

15 күн бұрын

Ethanol

@KateeAngel

15 күн бұрын

So who's going to feed the people then?

Get governments OUT of farming and keep them out.

Jai Kisan ❤❤❤❤

Without watching the video first, but I will, farmers around the world are making decent profits, with JUST a hectare or less, and by using regenerative agriculture. In wealthier countries it's not too hard to do other than the hard work of farming. But farmers who understand the first important principle, they're running a BUSINESS AND are using regenerative farming are for the most part doing well. I don't know how this transfers to poorer countries because the markets are different. In wealthy countries it's much easier. If you can build communities of farmer's using regenerative techniques and they form co-ops they can compete with big ag. Short of doing that I don't think small farmers in poorer countries have much of a chance to make good money for their economy because of the competition with big ag. After watching the video: The farmers that don't want to switch to regenerative ag. WILL have problems talked about in this video. I don't know why the world wants to keep supporting failing farming practices. Around the world there are many success stories, but the main thing that most have in common is the farmers didn't START with chemical farming, they started using regenerative techniques. So, they didn't have to go through a whole paradigm shift in their heads. In this video this VERY point shows up where a woman farmers says they shouldn't have to be burdened with the issue of environmental impacts and mitagating it. She said it in a different way. I highly disagree with her because it's EVERYONE'S responsibility if we care about future generations, so she should tell that to her children, not an interviewer, that SHE shouldn't have to care about their future. There ARE farmers that have worked with failing practices of being highly mechanized on a small farm (large costs) or using chemicals (large costs). Then they learned about regenerative ag., made they switch and they are MUCH happier (depression/suicide) AND more successful than what they were seeing or involved in. I don't feel sorry for them. They are in fact part of a problem that needs to be solved, and if they want to see solutions for THEIR problems they can visit the many regenerative ag. farms across Europe. The answers are there, and it's called getting away from chemicals and highly mechanized farming. In fact the only farmers that should be highly mechanized are grain farmers, other than equipment that's specific for dealing with animals for the most part. But once again this gets back to the issue of a community of farmers using Co-ops to manage/share their costs.

@farmkid7565

14 күн бұрын

I think you are one off the People that not even looked at European family farms. We do farmland rotations, we have 4 or 5 different cultures, grassland stays grassland, we fertilizer with or animale manure , what's calculated , we plant a interculture so the land is covert in winter. I think we are very close to renegevity farms. But even then they kill us. The big onces in Europe take al the money , they are even not farms but investors, food come to Europe with not Europe standards, at verry low price. People can cream we have to buy local. But 2/3 how buys food take low-price , don't look of the vegetables are in the right season. And 2/3 do one market and buys all there food there.

No farmers, no food. The middlemen are to blame.

The problem with small farmers is that they want the same amount of money for less produce. If the big corporations can make more for less, farmers should find another job

not allow investors to buy land to start. how about making it mandatory to sell farmland if you own it but never get in a tractor. I'm thinking the kids of farmers who aren't interested in farming here owning hundreds of acres and renting it out. Its impossible to buy farmland if you want to start farming. How about stopping developers from buying farmland to expand towns and cities when everyone is saying urban sprawl needs to die. They can rezone existing city land to build apartment buildings. They don't need perfectly good farmland to continue urban sprawl.

Do not worry about Brazilian agricultural products as the Southern part is now a flood zone and will not be able to sustain agriculture soon thanks to global warming!

Gosh... How did we end up here. Last i checked, humans still eat fruits, veggies and 🍖. We are not gonna eat metals anytime soon 😔

Pay farmers for the crops and require all the middle men in processing and triple or more dummy price increases to make no more than 5% on PRICE PAID FARMERS. Do all that on a shoe string and try to make money.

I think the police should respond to these farmers like they respond to anyone else using vandalism and intimidation for political gain.

Go do a video On naturisme

Why we allow foreign companies and countries to own large swaths of europe is incomprehensible It should not be possible for uae, chinese etc investors to own farms, housing etc

I think the guy in the hood who said "there are so many specific EU rules that it is difficult to produce at low prices" sums up EU's anti-farmer policy and all that's wrong with EU agriculture!

Without eco agriculture we are doomed. We need to support all farmers big and small but also to ensure pestecidide reduction. Your health is dependent on what you eat.

@DWPlanetA

8 күн бұрын

Hey Joseph! Yes, pesticides are a big problem. We looked into it a while ago 👉kzread.info/dash/bejne/kamTztFqfrStg5s.html

Struggling North American farmers tend to take the frustration out on seasonal farm workers

100 dedicated people + 1 farmer + 1 contract = problem solved for 101 people = x 2x = problem solved for 202 people x^inf = world hunger solved now let's go to mars!

The only solution is " de-capitalise agriculture"

Its a national Security risk. To not support our own farmers. EU needs to fix that ASAP. !

That's what happens when you put accountants in charge of farming. Or anything for that matter. Look at the healthcare

We want more cow menure!! Who cares about waterquality?.

Ivan Ivanov must practice a bit more his English, however he is 100% right in what he is trying to explain

this one aired the same day as the third season of clarkson's farm. coincidence much? 😅

Less people

Same for every industry - give no power to government and corporations, get out of local, small business' way.

Remove the corporate middle man. Grow local

Instead of concentrating about democracy in India EU should take care of their farmers very sad to see farmers protesting and people in power don't care about it🥲

At 7:00 it says that exports don't benefit the local economy. So the wages the farm pays do not go to the local economy? Statements like this take away credibility from what was overall a well done report.

@DWPlanetA

12 күн бұрын

Important point, thanks for asking! The site has a low risk for earthquakes. However, there are safety measures in place: A geologist of the site explained that the site was placed between two parallel fault zones. Like this, an earthquake would probably happen along those fault lines and they would absorb the movement. Another safety measure is the use of clay and copper to make sure that there are no releases even in extreme situations such as earthquakes.

Get rid of the helps and let market make it's magic

Get rid of the commodities markets and all the middle men. Only they and the markets make the money, the farmers and the consumers pay the price.

Answer: Reduce the global population by about 80%

We just have to many small farmers. We need to have less farmers iver all and for this bigger farmers

Follow the USA, use child labor. Easy money! From wiki pedia: 1: "500,000 children pick almost a quarter of the food in U.S." 2. "children can work at age 12 for unlimited hours before and after school"

In India People who are protesting as farmers are not farmers.. they are paid , motivated individuals nowhere related to farming

you journalist/media, so called experts haven't a clue.. the man at the end said farming will never be carbon neutral! go educate yourself the ONLY sector/industry that captures carbon is farming and agriculture.. farmers are responsible for 100% off all carbon captured and sequestered already.. you never seem to meantion that

If farmers cantnot earn money, why they dont have other job?