Suck it, NSA. Watch the full episode here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4uZ25WCmrGncc4.html Merch, magic, and more only at scamstuff.com #prank #stunt #educational

@someguywithamic9

Жыл бұрын

episodes like this remember why I original first started watching y'all on TV and continue to do so on KZread

@johnnybanks61

Жыл бұрын

NSA "Yeah its difficult definitely do all your dirt from these xompanoes we're not targetting"

@theemightymuffin

Жыл бұрын

512 is Austin

@markfergerson2145

Жыл бұрын

Riiiiight. Stingray isn’t a thing, nothing to see there, move along quietly.

@darthmayhem2383

Жыл бұрын

😂

They’re hard to track because you get rid of them promptly. The point being they end up tracking a dump truck, not that the phone is actually stealthy

@ZZubZZero

11 ай бұрын

It's both, isn't it? It's harder to find the number too.

@lonecentaur6719

11 ай бұрын

@@ZZubZZero Harder to track in the sense that they don’t get an alert saying “X subject of interest just got a phone plan from Verizon”. Not any harder for them to see what messages are being sent and to who. The only roadblock is connecting the number to the person of interest.

@30pranaypawar17

11 ай бұрын

does anybody remember the scene from money heist? about the professor trying to use some phones like these to communicate and they are not tracable, only tracable to the near tower area. not pinpoint location...

@lucas8579

11 ай бұрын

@@30pranaypawar17i think that doesnt have anything to do anything with the gps of the device (as it doesnt have an y). But the cell tower it has connected too.

@asemov2707

11 ай бұрын

You're technically right - Given most people would do what they see on TV (Snap the phone in half, throw it in the garbage).

It's difficult until they have a number associated with a target of interest. Once they have a number they're focused on, it is the same as any other account type. Burners are only useful if you keep burning through them before the bureaucracy can catch up!

@leonidas2064

Жыл бұрын

That's the point.

@derrekvanee4567

Жыл бұрын

bro isn't a baller

@lowkey.fuckedup

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. That's why the prepaid phone is as much as a month refill. Why refill when you can just get a new number each month. For those wondering the issue with this is unless your contacts are also changing numbers, then the gov will just wait and see what their number (assuming it is a static number) ends up contacting when they stop contacting the current known number. Remember, if you contact the same number with any number you have, then you may as well just have one number. It ain't hard to connect the dots

@PatLund

Жыл бұрын

That's why it's called a burner phone.

@nightwolf7231

Жыл бұрын

@@lowkey.fuckedup and that is why you have people to buy the burners and set up all the numbers you need on predial. its cheap and prevents miscom

Bro, if the NSA states publicly that it's hard to track something, that means they're REALLY good at tracking it.

@Will-dn9dq

9 ай бұрын

He literally missed part where numbers registered to the computer an traceable all way to which store register time an date an camera it was bought at!

@herbderbler1585

9 ай бұрын

@@Will-dn9dq wear simple disguise, pay cash. It's really easy now that no one questions you for wearing a mask.

@kirstenspencer3630

9 ай бұрын

Exactly ! I use one for emergencies and it has a camera too.

@TreeShark

7 ай бұрын

@@Will-dn9dqright, it’s crazy ppl think they can’t be traced… it’s just extra steps that takes as long as it takes the carrier to provide the info after a subpoena. So if anything it just buys time.. really that’s it

@Will-dn9dq

7 ай бұрын

@@TreeShark That's right. Buying a phone best ppl can do is make layers between themselves. Hope for time. The thing most criminals in prison have in common is thinking they were smarter then a group of dedicated ppl.

Remember, they do NOT need your phone number to track you. If they have a general idea of 2 places you've been in at rough times when you made calls, they can just use the data from the cell towers to pinpoint your phone and where you are. The phone does NOT need GPS to be located. You still need to be very diligent and careful, even with burners.

@tomnisen3358

8 ай бұрын

The FBI, NSA, CIA can turn them on without you knowing anything. You and your covert contacts need a lot of them to be effective.

@the1only467

8 ай бұрын

They have to prove that you were in possession so if it’s a phone with no attachment to you, i.e., name etc. then not happening.

@zwenkwiel816

28 күн бұрын

wouldn't they need a warrant to do that in the first place though?

@devonchin94

28 күн бұрын

@zwenkwiel816 I'm afraid not, cell companies "might" fight to refuse giving out your messages or call history. Warrants are needed for that. But they'll absolutely comply when a TLA requests Cell tower Metadata - and that's all they need.

@tibbs3112

28 күн бұрын

Also cell towers use phased array antennas that record the direction to you from the tower.

"oh yes we totally can't track these, please continue to use them" -NSA

@Legohaiden

11 ай бұрын

They really cant if you use them correctly. new burner, make 1 call, break sim, break phone toss into a couple different trash bins. they will never find that phone, or connect it to you unless you give Personally identifiable information during your phone call. (name, social sec number, etc)

@kungfoochicken08

11 ай бұрын

@@LegohaidenLook up the NSA program called “Co-Traveler.” That was exposed 10 years ago. I’m sure they have a much better program now. 10 years ago they were tracking where every phone in the world was, whether it was on or off, and tracking which other phones were around other phones. They’ve already solved this problem. Whether they’d use NSA tech against you is up for debate. The DEA got caught laundering NSA data against high level drug dealers in Mexico, so they can do it.

@ld2048

11 ай бұрын

@@Legohaiden like someone else said in a different thread, masking your voice and gait will make it even harder to connect anything to you

@TylerTMG

10 ай бұрын

if i run away im using this info

@TylerTMG

10 ай бұрын

also if a tracker sees this: im going to new mexico

Had a couple guys come into the store I work at once a month for new burners. Paid in cash and always told me to toss the receipt lol

@DiscoFang

11 ай бұрын

If they had YOU toss the receipt then they're clearly not worried about the receipt.

@allahbole

11 ай бұрын

@@DiscoFang no fingerprints on the receipt

@benjaminstreeter5244

11 ай бұрын

@@allahbolethis is the best reason, the business is definitely still going to have that receipt on file so taking the receipt to throw it away wouldn’t make sense.

@isaacteal

11 ай бұрын

I’m gonna guess paranoid drug dealers lol

@CBD_Shawarma

11 ай бұрын

@@benjaminstreeter5244 True but paying in cash with no rewards account means that even I could pull up the receipt in the back office app it wouldn't be tied to any specific person. I also doubt that they were doing bad enough crimes for authorities to take the time to track the IMEI and get a cop to come out and check the cameras at the time of purchase.

If you ever use one always use it with other burners. And please. Don't carry your other phone with you or even keep it open. There is a thing like metadata where they correlate proximity callers with you being around them...

@tomnisen3358

8 ай бұрын

Indeed

@trizedlyza

17 күн бұрын

Apple phones for example are trackable even when "off" using the airtag technology. As long as the lithium battery has some charge in it the phone's powered down circuit wakes up and talks to nearby airtag devices. Burner phones should be off until needed and never use them near your Apple phone and never allow another friend/family to call your burner from a known number. Have the friend borrow a public phone (or friend of a friend of a friend) at a shop or best is get an insider at a telemarketing office/spammer to pass messages so it looks like a normal outbound call to your burner like it's a random number dial.

Burners are actually really easy to track. Associating a burner to a specific person however is the difficult part. In addition, as mentioned they're easily disposable so likely to be tracking a garbage truck .

@JupiterLXIX

5 ай бұрын

Even pinning it to one person isn’t too difficult if the people you’re using it to communicate with don’t also have burners. Once you reach out to a known number boom they get you again.

@notlNSIGHT

Ай бұрын

Especially since burners are usually bought with cash.

If the NSA say its very difficult to trace, all they are saying is its VERY expensive to do so.

@MrMoraleTop5

10 ай бұрын

More so that’s it’s very unreliable and nearly pointless vying the fact that after all the effort they have to put in shits going to lead to a river or dump site 😂

@Bloodhoven

10 ай бұрын

ORRRRR... they are spreading misinformation so that criminals and technophobic nutjobs can still feel safe using them... at least that's what I would do if I was responsible for publicity-related stuff in an Agency like the CIA....

@stevenharder308

10 ай бұрын

I doubt anyone at the NSA has more than a casual passing interest in the cost of anything they’re doing.

@josephkanowitz6875

9 ай бұрын

ב''ה, someday they'll get to the top of the whole cannabis thing

@anihaznedari8827

Күн бұрын

No it's just more time consuming. They aren't paying out of their pockets it's the tax payers money so they aren't worried about that

The fact that the NSA said that publicly tells me it isn't as hard as they pretend

@dirtpounder

11 ай бұрын

it's somewhere in the middle; useful if combined with other tactics/techniques/behaviors/tools/etc, but if you're dumb enough to just replace your normal phone with one to do all your privacy, it's an easy way to draw you out to get scooped up

@onestoptechnologies7305

11 ай бұрын

Because of 911 access... all phones are required to be trackable.

@JonXuereb

11 ай бұрын

exactly, say that it's difficult so ppl don't come up with a new solution that's actually difficult

@scammuel

11 ай бұрын

Burner phone companies = NSA

@yourwifesboyfriend6081

11 ай бұрын

@@onestoptechnologies7305That’s not true. The most basic cellphones can only be tracked by the towers they interact with.

That last statement sounds like what a NSA agent would say to give you false sense of security 👀

The discipline of not getting caught...

I mean, if you send one text and then throw it into a hobo fire, then it would be extremely difficult to track it.

@derekhandson351

Жыл бұрын

Now that's just wasteful

@Aggrovious

Жыл бұрын

@@derekhandson351 would you rather go to jail?

@kv4648

Жыл бұрын

Lmao 🤣 I'm imagining the process of getting to a hobo fire

@brunorojas3992

Жыл бұрын

Can it be a blue collar fire?

@drink15

11 ай бұрын

How about a bond fire? James Bond Fire

if the nsa said publicly that burners are hard to track, that probably means they're easy to track

@richardmillhousenixon

Жыл бұрын

We've known how cell providers work for ages. They aren't lying.

@IvanskiYakinovski

Жыл бұрын

Tower triangulation if you know the specific phone you’re looking for, or credit card history if you’re a not so smart criminal

@AdrianOkay

11 ай бұрын

The moment the cell is on for the first time, the cops don't know anything yet, you use it, and once you've done x amount of calls, you assume that by that point there's at least a slight chance that a cop has the number, that's when it's burnt, they know the very moment a cop has the number the phone is tracked, but they roll on the first batch of calls you can make before that happens NSA can track a singular burner phone but they can't track someone that throws burner phones away every 10 calls, and maybe does the calls while on the move

@richardmillhousenixon

11 ай бұрын

@@IvanskiYakinovski Even then, tower triangulation is only accurate within a few hundred feet at best, especially within a city

@henrikpersson5420

11 ай бұрын

Correct! FM radios and ham radios are notoriously hard to track without alot of manual labor. That's why you need permits, and whyyou might land yourself jailtime if you broadcast ANYTHING.

Turns out, a burner was exactly what I thought it was.

"Yea, it's soooo difficult for us to track your burner phone" lol🤭🤭 -NSA

@zwenkwiel816

28 күн бұрын

NSA can probably do it no problem, other 3 letter agencies probably have the capability as well but even they can't track everyone at once. so the average dude selling drugs on the corner will probably be protected by using a burner phone. if you're an international terrorist or something though it might not be enough....

NSA: "Burner phones are hard to track, trust me bro, you should keep using them"

@magnum7424

10 ай бұрын

Great artwork btw brotha. Keep it up.

@csn583

8 ай бұрын

Meanwhile cell towers be triangulating.

If you're trying to keep a burner, don't have it near your personal phone, even if it doesn't have GPS, the same pattern of tower pings could be an indication the numbers are connected

@wanderingwade8877

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@natehill8069

11 ай бұрын

point

@mxracingunlimitedltd7784

11 ай бұрын

it would be very hard to use a burner phone except for a one time, 1-2 day use, remoeveable battery, and foil for when the batteries out, and then get rid of it immediately when youre done. But there will be so many things you wouldnt even think of that can track that burner phone to a person these days. And youll be going thru so many burner phones that will attract attention as well lol. theres no hiding anymore..

@Deja117

11 ай бұрын

​@@mxracingunlimitedltd7784burners are useless unless you're constantly on the move buying them from place to place and not using the internet. In which case, it's worth those few extra hours for authorities not to be able to tie it directly to your ISP or Google account even...

@yourwifesboyfriend6081

11 ай бұрын

Tower connection patterns aren’t going to be a deciding factor on whether or not that phone will be associated with you. It may make it slightly easier to prove you are the owner of it, but it’s certainly not an essential OPSEC practice. They’ll need to have the number already to find those records.

Legit at first I thought he was gonna start talking about stoves

Bro thinks he's Saul Goodman

I would buy a burner phone just so I can use T9 predictive texting again.

@RedDawn430

Жыл бұрын

There's an app for that

@Bane_Diesel

Жыл бұрын

@@RedDawn430 it doesn't have that feel of hitting a physical button tho.

@allahbole

11 ай бұрын

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@coltonstahl9535

11 ай бұрын

​@@Bane_Dieselback when you could safely text and drive 😂

@Bane_Diesel

11 ай бұрын

@@coltonstahl9535 yeah I don't want to admit it but... yeah when you have physical buttons and t9 knows what you want to say you never had to look down.

That info from the NSA is counter-intelligence.

@timn6643

10 ай бұрын

More like MILDEC

@majorali242

10 ай бұрын

What if it's counter counter intelligence. They want you to think that they know what theyre saying they dont, because they actually dont know it

@Xpwnxage

9 ай бұрын

You are counter-intelligence

@Will-dn9dq

9 ай бұрын

Yea it was a relative term though. "Very difficult for us". That could mean it's like building a lego set aged 18+ for a 10yr "difficult ". Also could be like most ppl "think for themselves " impossible difficult. Truth us probably more like getting a warrant from judge takes a phone call is "very difficult " for antisocial ppl never talk on phone 😂😂

“Very difficult for us to track burner phones” that either means it is trivial or impossible.

@Lorentz_Driver

5 ай бұрын

They can track them, but not you.

The problem is your victim still has a cellphone which still has GPS. So the police will know that missing girl was your house, Todd.

The NSA has admitted it is hard for them to track. I don't buy it, that means they hope people use them cuz they figured out how to track them

@Nobodyfromnowhere42

Жыл бұрын

They can always track a signal the point is to match the signal with a person , if you dont give your details it doesnt matter.

@guardianfox2

Жыл бұрын

"Oh hey criminals, use burner phones! We can't catch you." - NSA. Oh yeah... I'm going to start breeding pigeons if I ever get into a criminal career.

@derekhandson351

Жыл бұрын

​@@guardianfox2this is the correct solution.

@NeutralGuyDoubleZero

Жыл бұрын

Not every single line out of a government persons mouth is a trick or conspiracy lol, touch some grass

@arbonransom8992

Жыл бұрын

@NeutralGuyDoubleZero hahaha you're the guy every friend group has to reel them back in before they start going too crazy into conspiracies

The fact that that most burners run on CDMA, 2g or virtual networks makes it extremely easy to track or intercept messages with hardware most law enforcement agencies are using these days called a stingray. What is hard is building a profile on its usage as they aren’t usually kept in service long enough to establish any significant data patterns (although not completely useless). The stingray can even force your newer smartphones into using one of these lower, unsecured modes which is how they are able to easily intercept and relay on things like text messages and even listen in on calls.

Thats what the NSA wants you to think

Ngl, I feel like if the NSA openly admits that they aren’t able to do something, they are actually fully capable of doing that very thing and just don’t want you to know it.

@funfungerman8401

10 ай бұрын

normally i would think the same but, i mean if you use a phone for 2-3 things at the same location in the span of 15 minutes and then just throw it away and went somewhere else... Like what can they do, or anyone in particular (be it nsa, cia, fbi etc) track you? yeah just the place you where 15 minutes or hours ago.

If I was a government agency in charge of tracking and surveilling people I'd absolutely say I have a difficult time tracking something really easy to track.

"It's really hard to track burner phones" is exactly what I would say if I were really good at tracking burner phones

Clearly the NSA should run a pre-paid provider.

@tomnisen3358

8 ай бұрын

They don't? 😂

Most MVNOs now require online activation for use. During activation, you provide your name and other details that ultimately could be used to track you

@cheesebucket142

11 ай бұрын

And if you provide fake details?

@papapsych2746

11 ай бұрын

I always used fake names, my current phone is a number I got over a decade ago. I put in a fake name then, but I have since gone to autopay. and they even gave me a nice phone a couple years ago for being a customer so long.

@boldCactuslad

11 ай бұрын

@@cheesebucket142 imagine a captcha but it just never ends

@natehill8069

11 ай бұрын

@@cheesebucket142 You have to use a disposable phone number or email address to confirm the activation without it being traced to you. If you ALREADY have one of those, whats the phone for?

@cyxceven

11 ай бұрын

Thats when VPNs come in handy. Plus, even if they have "your" details, you can plausibly deny it was you that entered them. "My identity was stolen, officer."

If you have a regular cellphone as well, they can see the burner and YOUR phone and see how often they are in proximity.

@fizur2002

11 ай бұрын

If you want a burner to work, you need to age it for a year before you even activate it. Only activate it AFTER you have disposed of all other associating tech.

@Squidbush8563

10 ай бұрын

@@fizur2002 and keep the battery out of it until you are going to use it. (They're pretty much exclusively for outgoing calls/texts anyway)

@Aldornas

10 ай бұрын

*The more you know* (4 note musical chimes)

@soulextinguisher

10 ай бұрын

​@@fizur2002what do you mean associated tech? why a year?

@fizur2002

10 ай бұрын

@@soulextinguisher so that the purchase and history of the device can no longer be tracked back to you.

NSA: oh yeah say whatever you want on prepaid phones we totally can't see it

This man has never been near a crime in his life

Also, another issue is that the NSA can log. What phones are within the vicinity of other phones? So if it's seen new Berner numbers always in the vicinity of your actual personal phone, it'll Link you to them.

@warpedgeoid

Жыл бұрын

This, exactly.

@MyDadIsBillGates

Жыл бұрын

you're talking about being in the right place at the right time, or being at every place at every time and have an analyst to record it (granted AI and monitoring systems are becoming more prominent now) and let's go back to you don't know who is a legit user, sure you could run on who's contacting non burner phones frequently but do you think that really happens? hell no, organized crime gangs are smarter than you think. they'll message burner to burner or call burner to burner. and this is just prepaid phones. identity fraud to setup contract phones and hire rental cars are super common

@richardmillhousenixon

Жыл бұрын

If the burner doesn't have GPS they can't get an accurate location fix. Cell triangulation isnt like what you see in the movies. It doesn't give you a single point. It gives you a large radius, perhaps 50 feet or greater depending on the environment, which if you're in a crowded area gives you plausible deniability. Besides, if you're stupid enough to bring your personal phone with you when you're doing shady shit, thats on you, not the burner phone

@someweeb3650

11 ай бұрын

Easy solution. Don't have a personal phone.

@henrikpersson5420

11 ай бұрын

No, the virtual providers ARE the NSA and everything is tracked and filtered for possible leaks or insurrectionists.

I always feel like a badass when i watch this channel. Funny considering how much of a dork I am. Also, my money says the NSA only admitted they can't track burner phones AFTER they got gud at tracking burners.

@vividvisions693

Жыл бұрын

i thought the same thing lol. Don't worry guys we ARENT good at tracking burners ... ;)

@kermitthefragg

Жыл бұрын

The issue was never being able to track the burner. That's the same as tracking any phone. The issue is tying it to a person. You buy it cash and use it a few times. Good fucking luck.

@connorhart7597

Жыл бұрын

​@@kermitthefraggexactly. Thats where people fuck up though, they get lazy and use a burner for too long

@henrikpersson5420

11 ай бұрын

You are 100% correct. For petty crime they are useful, but if you plan an insurrection against a particularly corrupt government. They'd be like flies on freshly laid cow dung!

@weird-guy

11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately a lot of drug dealers are dumb and always use the same phone 😂😂 at its what happens in my country

burner phone is a phone you can snap after making serious phone call to make satisfying and dramatic effect

You buy 8 of them at once. Activate as needed; and toss aside. They’ll track the phone. They just don’t track you

@anihaznedari8827

Күн бұрын

You shouldn't buy that in the same place at once because after the third they would understand and put the rest of the burners on a watch list

Ah yes the NSA said they have a hard time getting information from them. As we all know the NSA wouldn't lie to us about that so it must be true.

A lot of those phones do have a-gps. However gps does absolutely nothing if you can’t connect that phone to someone. That’s really all it’s about is just not having personal information attached. Smart phones are dangerous because you might get signed into something, Wi-Fi collects personal information and location … that’s really all it’s about

@JamesMichaelDoyle

11 ай бұрын

no, "a lot of these phones" do not have gps. this is literally an 8 dollar phone. a big mac costs more than this phone. they cut all the corners, and it basically just texts and makes calls. thats it. most dont even have wifi. they are not smartphones.

@bearmotorcycle7305

11 ай бұрын

@@JamesMichaelDoyleMost do not have GPS exposed to the user interface. GPS is required for some network operations. CDMA and current LTE operations require GPS clock for operations of base stations and terminals (your phone). Without it, packets collide and the system is a brick.

@psyience3213

11 ай бұрын

@@JamesMichaelDoyle oh wow that one phone obviously means most phones don’t have at least a-gps 😂🤣🤡

@freelectron2029

11 ай бұрын

everyones voice profile is already logged. none of that matters anymore. youo make a cal over the network, they know who you are. smart phone or dumb phone.

@psyience3213

11 ай бұрын

@@freelectron2029 that’s a good point

"Dearly Beloved, Act Accordingly"

"dumbphones" are a really awesome rabbit hole that i plan to spiral down sometime in the future usually it's less about privacy and more about decreasing your media consumption, but obviously privacy is a pretty huge benefit of them

Fun fact. Even flip phones in the U.S. are required to have gps recievers in them. This is apparently required to meet e911 compliance.

I have never been asked for anything like that when I buy phones. Most asked question is how I want to pay for it.

@dirtpounder

11 ай бұрын

and "do you _want_ to be added to a list as an option?" "uh, no? won't even pretend to thank you, lol"

Where I grew up there was a very distinct difference between a "burner" and a "burner phone".

This short highlights why 'The Wire' is still such a damn good series even today.

One thing that's important to note is if you're not actively using the phone take the battery out.

@Codeeez

11 ай бұрын

Doesn't matter

@brainwashalpha5495

11 ай бұрын

these phones still have a small coin shaped CMOS battery which runs date and timekeeping, even when the real battery this tiny battery is still capable of making emergency calls and thus potentially tracking you

@williamwinder5011

11 ай бұрын

@@brainwashalpha5495 then don't use those phones if that's true

@MetalSStar196

10 ай бұрын

Even if you take the battery out, the waves from the microchip are still resonating because the chip itself has radiation not requiring an external power source. That's how Google is able to track cellphone users who've taken out their cellphone battery.

@williamwinder5011

10 ай бұрын

@@MetalSStar196 that works on iPhone but not Android.

"Big box retailer" is important to know. If you're doing business that you know people are trying to watch, wear a hat when you go to buy one.

@johnt.inscrutable1545

11 ай бұрын

A tinfoil hat preferably.

Im gonna start answering spam phone calls like that "This number is has been burned" 😂

watching him put in the number into the phone gave me such hard drug flashbacks

Would be handy if we could do that here, but you have to provide ID to activate any SIM card

@bruhstandler

Жыл бұрын

Order prepaid ones off the dark web

@happyjohn354

11 ай бұрын

@@bruhstandler Not even the dark web Amazon with a gift card. Have it delivered to a random address then just wait around until it arrives and grab the package.

@tulmar4548

11 ай бұрын

​@@happyjohn354ya know places exist outside the US right where mobile access is dictated by having an activated sim and prepaid preactivated services don't exist. Essentially burner phones sim ids are already logged on the network as allowed so that how they work. In places where there is no pre allowed sim ids , activation is needed for a sim id to be recognised by the provider and allowed on the network. Some countries have quite literally made it law in their telecommunications regulations that all sim ids must be activate with a valid form of id.

@weird-guy

11 ай бұрын

Facebook marketplace or OLX in my country 😂

@Therealpro2

11 ай бұрын

wild that u have to provide ID to activate sim ca rd in US

Also depends on who you bought your burner phone from. They know which phones were sent to which stores and can work backwards to find out who you are.

@allahbole

11 ай бұрын

Yep, that's why you pay a hobo to go in and buy them for you, so you don't end up on the surveillance video. Course, then you have to keep burnin' the hobos and that's pretty time-consuming. /s

@StarrDust0

11 ай бұрын

@@allahbole lol

1) almost all cell phones sold now are at least 3G because older networks are being taken out of service 2) all cell phones provide some location data. at a minimum, data of cell towers nearby gets logged by the cell provider 3) unless you practice extreme hygiene, it’s easy to find out who is running a burner. power the thing on 1 time around any known cellphone & your meta data gets linked to that burner.

@zwenkwiel816

28 күн бұрын

they'll need to know which phone to look for first though. like if you're in a city there will be 100's or 1000;s of other phones connected to the same cell towers. so unless they do a large data analysis on the towers near you, or physically get some1 to follow you and record when and where you make phone calls they'll have no idea which phone number to look for.... but if they're invested enough to do all this you probably have legal problems a burner phone won't fix anyway...

That's probably something the NSA would want you to think

I don't think anyone has ever said, "This phone has been burned". Also, you literally told everyone what they already knew.

I've watched enough Breaking Bad to know the basics, but this taught me more than I could ever dream.

@FederalBeurauofInvestigations.

10 ай бұрын

I hope you're either joking or you're an upstanding citizen cause I would never do business with you lol

@SupremeCyril

10 ай бұрын

@@FederalBeurauofInvestigations.lmaooo 😂😂😂😂😂

@FederalBeurauofInvestigations.

10 ай бұрын

@@SupremeCyril bro 😂 buddy said he learned the life of crime from a tv show and some dumbass from a KZread short talking nonsense lmao I don't mean any offense I just hope you have a job and pay your taxes cause if you try any other route you're gonna be in troubleeee

The only reason these exist is because in the USA, you don't need to have any ID or anything to buy a phone/sim. When I lived in the UAE, no such luck. You had a biometrically linked ID, and you couldn't buy the sim unless you registered the sim and the ID together. The only exception was company phones, but those were tracked.

"A lot of people don't know what a burner phone is. Now I will describe to you that it is exactly what you thought it was."

I had a prepaid like this from 2018-2020, which was when I was in middle school. It could text, call, and that was about it. The battery lasted like a week straight and it was compact. The pros kinda ended there.

I dunno what country this guy is from but when I buy my smartphone all I need is money. Why would they ask for work history? If u got the money u buy. Simple

@animehair05silently88

Жыл бұрын

where in from if you buy a normal or expensive smartphone you typically have some kind of payment plan for at least the phone number even if the phone gets paid for on the spot. also if the nsa is after you then if you even pay with your credit card or something they can probably find that out. with something cheap like this, you can go into walmart or target or maybe a gas station, pay for it in cash, and walk out the door. maybe you can even keep a mask and a hat on since facemasks are common now that covid19 is a thing.

@borissand3891

Жыл бұрын

Probably depends if your buying it outright or on a plan

@csgaiao33

Жыл бұрын

@@animehair05silently88 im not from america. There's no walmarts here or any of these crazy rules

@csgaiao33

Жыл бұрын

@@animehair05silently88 here you can buy expensive gadgets with no info about you whatsoever. Its not mandatory

@csgaiao33

Жыл бұрын

@@borissand3891 so even in america i can buy it with just cash as long as i dont want a payment plan? Oh... thats probably what confused me. Thanks!

The NSA agents in this guys earpiece “did they fall for it?”

Did not read the title. Was thinking stove burners. "Ya. Who doesn't know what those are?" 🤣🤣🤣

Most of them are required to have GPS these days.

If the NSA is saying it's hard for them to track something, that's because they want you to use it, and give you the false impression of being "difficult to track"

Plot twist: burner phones are the idea of NSA

Isn't that exactly what most people understood a burner phone to be??

If you've ever seen The Wire, you will know both why it's called a Burner, and why law enforcement has a hard time tracking them.

Feels like very early Modern Rogue footage, love the throw back

@SgtCookie111

11 ай бұрын

That's because it IS early modern rogue footage.

"A lot of people don't know what a burner phone is..." proceeds to prove he doesn't either.

Glad you're doing okay! Also, this was a whole mood, you were so stressed the whole time 🤣

Difficult. Not even close to impossible lol There are no secrets anymore. Big brother knows EVERYTHING about us.

That‘s why in Germany at least you have to register every SIM card with your ID or passport before they activate it. You technically can’t get pre-acticated prepaid SIM cards here (unless you go to some shady middle eastern tobacco/phone store where you can find pre-activated ones if you ask and convince them that you’re not a cop, because it’s illegal to sell those).

nice to see someone who hasnt stepped NEAR a burner situation

When NSA says they can't do it. You know they can.

He forgot to mention; you can only use a burner phone once then you have to get a new one...

This is why other countries, you have to make a copy of the person's ID and proof of residence to buy any SIM card, and it links the cellphone number to the person in the same way you do for a bank account, etc.

ghost phones was where it was at back in the day.

Very difficult for them to track burner phones no no 😂

The problem is that there's still a number associated with it that follows it from the factory all the way to the retailer and then service. If that retailer has a camera you're caught

@BenKonosky

10 ай бұрын

That's why you don't open the phone up and use it for a year since no store would keep that much footage that long.

@topshottared5500

10 ай бұрын

You send other people to get it

@jessep5280

9 ай бұрын

​@@BenKonoskyexactly. Longtime scumbag here. If you're doing anything illegal, buy your tools long in advance before use.

Why would the NSA readily admit that? I smell a psy-op.

@richardmillhousenixon

Жыл бұрын

Because its the truth. It's the same reason that cash is so hard to trace.

@jacksonfunksworth3822

Жыл бұрын

@@richardmillhousenixon except how cash has serial numbers -- just like cellphones? Yeah, **real** hard, sure sure buddy

@jacksonfunksworth3822

Жыл бұрын

@@richardmillhousenixon oh wait, it's a Nixon Stan, now I'm a believer /s

@jstefa2

11 ай бұрын

it is a psyop. they can trace it within 100 feet. and if you take it home well :)

"It's very difficult to track burner phones" is exactly what someone would say if they were able to track burner phones and wanted someone to use them for criminal activity.

What you call a "burner" I call Junior High

Forgot to mention that burner phones are primarily used by low-income citizens who cant afford phone bills - not criminals.

@tomnisen3358

8 ай бұрын

Lol. They get government phones!

@isaiahh3754

8 ай бұрын

@@tomnisen3358 Who?

@quint2568

5 ай бұрын

A burner phone is not a type of phone. I know guys that use iPhones as burners. Just cheap and effective.

"The NSA totally can't track burner phone usage, so if you're a drug dealer they're definitely a good option" -- The NSA

The Saturday Night Special of phone’s.

Now I wanna get a burner phone so that the NSA thinks I'm important and I can feel like a big man.

Fun fact: You can't buy these in Europe. Burner phones are literally illegal in Europe.

@andy56duky

Жыл бұрын

Hence the reason why many crimes in Europe went underground.

@antoxin93

Жыл бұрын

step one buy a used phone. Step two never enter any personal accs into it, sideload apps if needed. Step three, buy a prepaid sim. You just got yourself an ''illegal'' phone while not doing anything ''illegal''.

@marekholub8668

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, because we actually own our phones and sim cards. I can go and buy them separately without providing any form of ID

@marekholub8668

Жыл бұрын

Netherlands, Baltic states, Sweden, Finland, Portugal, Ireland and Czechia allow sale of burner cards.

@freezy2755

Жыл бұрын

I can buy a SIM card for £1 from any store, what are you talking about

I shall be getting a few hundred of these. Thanks for the tips

@giorgos3643

Жыл бұрын

Why? Are you a criminal or something?

@thescatologistcopromancer3936

Жыл бұрын

@@giorgos3643 that's none of your business, which is the point.

@henrikpersson5420

11 ай бұрын

Bot account? We all know this is bulkshit, and the vsp's are NSA honeypots.

@giorgos3643

11 ай бұрын

@@thescatologistcopromancer3936 do you know what is none of my/our business? Your paranoia. If you really have things to hide then it is everyone's business because you are potential danger to everyone which is the point. Do you?

@allahbole

11 ай бұрын

Should just start a recycling service, new burner every X days, mail in your old one and they resell to someone else. Environmentally friendly burners /s

Oh my gosh, I literally thought he was saying “burger” the whole time

That's exactly what most people think a burner phone is.

I love watching these guys for a good chuckle lol Its like watching someones parents trying to be down with the kids lol.

@cypher50

11 ай бұрын

"In our next video, we are going to explain what a "smart tv" is..."

@johnnyhellfire6

11 ай бұрын

@@cypher50 "with future episode explaining what a "meme" is and why they are funny... Lol

Man, this guy sure said a lot of words.

plot twist this guy is actually an agent

Where i live, burner sims do not activate until an already activated number calls them. Meaning that two burners cannot call each other without having a tie to an established number.

First burner phone I had was in 1993…grey brick phone😂..we all was the ish back in HS with them 😂😂😂

@Sheeit

Жыл бұрын

You were throwing away cell phones in 1993?

@Nathan-Plays

Жыл бұрын

I dont think so

@NikoBellaKhouf2

Жыл бұрын

I don't think you understand the concept of a burner

If the NSA said they are hard to track then they are easy to track

The NSA is probably one of the Virtual Network Providers

@datcheesecakeboi6745

4 ай бұрын

And so what?

I don't know why but a video that has to explain the concept of a burner phone to people feels like the most "oh man, you sweet summer child..." moment ever.