How Broke Is Too Broke? Part 2

How broke is too broke 2 , I finally considered the project at hand an example of deciding when too broke is the final conclusion. I got a replacement tap and then the fun starts again, it was a snap with the second tap and the project continues and the threaded hole becomes a part….
“Made in China” is a warning label….
Life is good! Cheers, Keith
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  • @marcellemay7721
    @marcellemay77216 ай бұрын

    I've been watching you work for well over a decade, since at least 2012, probably before that. You always keep it simple, and no nonsense. Your approach to machining and repairing things is always appreciated over here. Compared to other machining channels that seem to convolute and complicate things, you just always get it done in the simplest and most effective way... That's the #1 indicator of an intelligent experienced craftsman. Your not just a a machinist, welder, and mechanic, you're the fixit guy. I mean that in the highest way possible. I really miss seeing you more on youtube. I know you've had your differences with youtube, as have most other creators that I follow on here, but I just can't seem to get comfortable enough on those other video platforms to stick around there. Hoping to see you more over here.

  • @AWDJRforYouTube
    @AWDJRforYouTube6 ай бұрын

    WTF {Why The Fugosi} don't they make those taps in two tap set not one long " Easy Break" lol!. You got it done Keith you are the MAN!

  • @robmacl7

    @robmacl7

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I think the problem is that the stick out is so long so a pretty small sideways force is enough to break it. Probably would help to use a tapping guide or something to make sure you bending to the side. But it's going to be tricky with how much force you need.

  • @russelldilworth1784
    @russelldilworth17846 ай бұрын

    I nearly Pished the bed here when he said... ""Im just breaking it free'' ,,,then the loud snap. I thought w.t.f..lol nasty

  • @johnfry9010
    @johnfry90106 ай бұрын

    That is an ingenious mechanism and you did one hell of a job to re-create it ! New title for this video " How Broke Is TWO Broke " , LOL .

  • @shootgp
    @shootgp6 ай бұрын

    Through the magic of video editing, you appear to have handled that second tap breaking quite well.... 😅

  • @davyhenderson

    @davyhenderson

    6 ай бұрын

    i have been watching Keith for a long time and did you see that little smile right before he said "there we go there's tap 2"..... that was the anger released. 😛

  • @argee55

    @argee55

    6 ай бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing!

  • @Tinker001

    @Tinker001

    6 ай бұрын

    Pretty sure I faintly heard a single four letter word from here back while he was filming this...

  • @markfoster6110

    @markfoster6110

    6 ай бұрын

    Oh bother the new tap just fell apart iny hand !!!!!

  • @dphillips705

    @dphillips705

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@Tinker001you mean s_ _ t or f_ _k lol

  • @markstone6368
    @markstone63686 ай бұрын

    Isn't i amazing the things we put up with until we finally get around to fixing them. Then we wonder why we didn't do it sooner. Keep up the good work Keith. Always look forward to your videos. MJ

  • @passenger6735
    @passenger67356 ай бұрын

    My heart sank when the second tap broke. Great fix and a nicely finished part in the end.

  • @michaelrandle4128
    @michaelrandle41286 ай бұрын

    Love the new intro Keith, what a voice, them old hands have a lot of miles on em, look after them, regards from across the pond.

  • @ssboot5663
    @ssboot56636 ай бұрын

    Good to see you got your NUT fixed and your vise working again! Nice saw! It's unfortunate to see the two expensive taps break though. But you know the drill!! "GET ER DONE!

  • @normsweet1710
    @normsweet17105 ай бұрын

    About the time you said “snap” I chuckled cause my Dad was always on me to “don’t forget the tap oil “

  • @joewhitney4097
    @joewhitney40976 ай бұрын

    Your finished repair works as good as new Keith. I know that was painful to have two expensive taps fail. But as usual you make the best of a bad situation. Your repair should last you a very long time. Thanks for sharing.

  • @TheTacktishion
    @TheTacktishion6 ай бұрын

    Nice Job...! Thanks for bringing us along... Sorry about the 2 broken taps... $hit Happens!!!

  • @rldoyle5705
    @rldoyle57056 ай бұрын

    We need to make taps great again. Thanks for the vid

  • @claudemorehead4529
    @claudemorehead45296 ай бұрын

    I got to work the next day and took the nut back off. It was missing the spring and button. Fabed up a new one. If I didn't see yours I don't think I'd figured it out. Thanks Keith.

  • @foxholewilly
    @foxholewilly6 ай бұрын

    Sharpum! You should market that name.

  • @darinspicer2753
    @darinspicer27536 ай бұрын

    I was laughing at how gun shy you were on tapping that smaller hole. 😂

  • @allanhudson2871

    @allanhudson2871

    4 ай бұрын

    Back to how you were told in school. Two turns, back off and brake the chips, lubricants etc. initially I was thinking ‘why doesn’t he just power tap it on the lathe’. My bad.

  • @keldsor
    @keldsor6 ай бұрын

    Hi Keith ! Nice to have you back ... and working - love it ! I just finished MY "quick release nut" and for my plonger I just used a neodynium magnet - it workes nicely ! It's different from yours in two points: 1) Mine is in my wooden workbench 2) Then I can have the jaw attached to the lead screw and the release mechanism placed in a completely closed 'box' under the bench ... and wooden chips don't stick to magnets ... at least here in Denmark, they don't 🙂 A really nice fix you made there, I think ! Best from Keld in Denmark

  • @dphillips705
    @dphillips7055 ай бұрын

    Nothing you can do but laugh really lol

  • @markfoggy9933
    @markfoggy99336 ай бұрын

    Snappy delivery always gets the attention, but that's a really joyful Get Her Done. Nicely.

  • @misfitsman805
    @misfitsman8055 ай бұрын

    "I'm just breaking it free." *SNAP!* 🤦🏼 *Looking at broken tap* "Well sh*t!"

  • @davidmasters9793
    @davidmasters97936 ай бұрын

    I just last week made a new lead screw and nut ,went on Amazon, bought the least expensive Acme tap, and die for my application. Power taped the nut in steel in the lathe. Dam, glad I bought cheap crap I'd cry losing that much money.

  • @Saltshaker2016
    @Saltshaker20166 ай бұрын

    38:30 Nice grouping on that wall chart Mr. Fenner.

  • @herbbenson6884
    @herbbenson68846 ай бұрын

    Very enjoyable videos once I recovered from the mental trauma of witnessing the breakage of two expensive taps!(Shudders). Very good job Mr Fenner!

  • @wansolve289
    @wansolve2896 ай бұрын

    In looking at the design of that half-nut I think back to who the original designer was that not only came up with the idea, but how he crafted the specs for the foundry to pour the mold for it! Pretty awesome engineering AND innovative skills.

  • @stuartlockwood9645
    @stuartlockwood96456 ай бұрын

    Hi Keith ☺ that expensive tap turned into a two bit tap real quick, and then they worked just fine, lol. This is a great video ,thanks for taking us along. And I hope the wrists mend ok, stay safe, best wishe's to you and Lisa, Stuart UK.

  • @KeithFenner

    @KeithFenner

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @rickyretic
    @rickyretic6 ай бұрын

    Absolutely love your mug Keith. No ifs or ands about it, he MUST get back into office. ❤ Love your videos, I've been watching since the beginning. Ironically, we live with in 40 minutes or so from each other. It takes me approx. 20-25 minutes to reach the Cape Cod Canal.

  • @artt3165
    @artt31656 ай бұрын

    I'm going to have the gremlins in the fracture repair department check the code date on the tool glue......lol Some days you wonder why you even get out of bed. Once had my boss sign off on a racing engine. During vehicle testing the turbo exploded. Several thousand dollars and two days later we were back on the test track. I was suspicious of over speeding the turbo so I had my boss "bless" the setup. "Yeah..... it'll work there's always more strength than the specs say" ....... until there isn't. But, that's sometimes how we learn. Some days all you can do is laugh and make the best of it.

  • @phillipjones3342
    @phillipjones33426 ай бұрын

    That is one of the toughest eccentric nuts I have ever seen. Well done sir you did it with ease with the eyecrometers

  • @jamesdrake2378
    @jamesdrake23786 ай бұрын

    I watch your stuff and a few other guys. When I see you "getter done" I can't help but think that Abom would have drug this out into at least 5 parts. Thanks for the vids.

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown6 ай бұрын

    great tip on shooting compressed air into hole for a stuck tap in cast iron....

  • @JohnBare747
    @JohnBare7476 ай бұрын

    Nothing like an almost $1,000 shop made free part. That will test your sense of humor.

  • @oldtractors
    @oldtractors6 ай бұрын

    It made me cuss out loud when you broke that second tap.

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc026 ай бұрын

    Should have played taps for the taps. LOL wish I had money for every tap that gave up before I thought it should.

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown6 ай бұрын

    I see a new business trend Keith.....Fenner's Tap Brokerage.....Specializing in Acme Left Hand Taps

  • @allanhudson2871
    @allanhudson28714 ай бұрын

    Keep this video in mind when your employees break stuff. Happens to the best of us including Kieth. Seems like design wise it’s a very complicated part to achieve the quick release? Great post thanks Kieth I’d be crying over $400 in taps.

  • @phooesnax
    @phooesnax6 ай бұрын

    I was thinking of those torque limiting extensions for impact wrench. That is one Long A tap Glad it worked

  • @highlandermachineworks5795
    @highlandermachineworks57956 ай бұрын

    Anyone else get a shock when that tap broke? Bad enough I had two near misses with deer last night. But now this! Im gonna need a drink.

  • @bombardier3qtrlbpsi
    @bombardier3qtrlbpsi6 ай бұрын

    Nice job as always 👍 That coffee mug. Is that a paid advertisement 😂😂

  • @mudnducs
    @mudnducs6 ай бұрын

    Got to hand it to you Keith....when that tap broke a second time Id have gone crazy!!!🤣 Thanks for the time and lessons in patience and technique!

  • @user-wy9fp9nr7q
    @user-wy9fp9nr7q6 ай бұрын

    It was good to hear the old clausing lathe around again.

  • @sabertoothfabrication1170
    @sabertoothfabrication11702 ай бұрын

    Great save with the 2 half taps!! would you ever consider making something like this from a material like delrin? of course it would be a consumable product. But then you could probably make 3 in the time it would take you to make one from cast iron, and the odds of breaking a tap would be almost zero. The thought of tapping an acme thread that size with a hand tap gives me goosebumps. Great video, thoroughly enjoyed!!

  • @tced2858
    @tced28586 ай бұрын

    Great save on the tap...those square thread taps always look very breakable to me...

  • @Cookerab
    @Cookerab6 ай бұрын

    The joy when it was fixed is palpable. Well done Keith. It feels good when shit that was broke works again. :)

  • @jwaterous224
    @jwaterous2246 ай бұрын

    Good to see your vise being satisfactory again! Thus completes the rebuild of your saw! Always get the best feeling when you're happy with the result. All in all I'd much rather be standing over completed work than the actual plan. 😁Today I tried the best planned fixes for our machine (at work) but the work around had to do; again! I too will be ecstaic when the fix is finaly in.

  • @Tinker001
    @Tinker0016 ай бұрын

    Now we see why replacement parts are so expensive... :P

  • @outsidescrewball
    @outsidescrewball6 ай бұрын

    Hero snap and a hero fix…😂enjoyed the build/repair

  • @richardfrisbie6069
    @richardfrisbie60696 ай бұрын

    Great videos again. That was an expensive fix, but think of the time you'll save! ;-)

  • @grntitan1
    @grntitan16 ай бұрын

    Nice repair. Probably better than new.

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine936 ай бұрын

    Nice job. Well done. Thanks for sharing.

  • @johnnyholland8765
    @johnnyholland87656 ай бұрын

    Glad you could salvage something from those taps. That is a lot of money. Be careful and don't injure that new surgery...

  • @nickrandol9133
    @nickrandol91336 ай бұрын

    Had both of my wrists done. CTRs, like you. And just know, that after you heal, you’ll be back to 100%.

  • @ls2005019227
    @ls20050192276 ай бұрын

    Way to "Get 'er done"!! You're a master Keith. Thanks for another fantastic series-

  • @danmundhenke7998
    @danmundhenke79986 ай бұрын

    Sad to see all but 23.7% of those $500 threads being milled away...

  • @19672701
    @196727016 ай бұрын

    Well,I feel better about the 8mm tap I broke in some 3030 extrusion,I'm blaming the tap breaking on the metric system.5/16 tap wouldn't had broke.haha,great video, now to watch Hickok45 shoot some cool shizz.

  • @chrischapel9165
    @chrischapel91656 ай бұрын

    Dealing with "nuts" and, "numb fingers" ironically "numb nuts" seems to be a pretty standard name for me thru most of my paths in life!!! LOL...As a bicyclist with many a ride over 100+ miles a day it is important to keep moving your different body parts in different positions to prevent numbness...i imagine after this surgery you might still experience numbness after some time riding

  • @jimwinchester339
    @jimwinchester3396 ай бұрын

    Sometimes one comes damn close to getting it to getting it all done with your bare hands.

  • @jdmccorful
    @jdmccorful6 ай бұрын

    Great refurbished machine! Thanks for the come along.

  • @railfan439
    @railfan4396 ай бұрын

    How broke is too broke? Me, at the end of the month. 8^D Thanks for the video. Hope to see you at the Bar-Z. Jon

  • @donsipes
    @donsipes6 ай бұрын

    Good episode. I had exactly the same problem with my bandsaw. Rather than replace the flippy floppy lock I machined a brass block with the acme thread in it and put it in the carrier. The down side is I now have to crank in both directions. My saw is a couple of sizes smaller than yours and I seldom cut material that utilizes the max capacity of the saw so that hasn't proven to be too much of a hindrance. Keep up the good work.

  • @HmsSulaco
    @HmsSulaco6 ай бұрын

    35:30 haha know that feeling Keith, wonderfull..

  • @deathk26
    @deathk266 ай бұрын

    I'd say it's kind of a poor design on the two stage tap. Should be two separate taps like what you ultimately wound up with.

  • @JohnBare747
    @JohnBare7476 ай бұрын

    That was quite the Tap Dance... Oh, Well.

  • @chieft3357
    @chieft33576 ай бұрын

    How Broke Is "TWO" Broke!! You always getter done. All the best to ya'.

  • @stevenclaeys6252
    @stevenclaeys62526 ай бұрын

    Awe Snap ! It happens, Nice to see someone who can make lite of the mishaps. Thank you for another great video. Stay safe out there. Cheers

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown6 ай бұрын

    Did you mention the Brand Acme tap, I bet it was one of those Heart Brand taps... 2 Broken Hearts on your channel.....

  • @bchant19
    @bchant196 ай бұрын

    Keith things may not be a total write off with that broken tap. Where I work we have a few of them achme taps and my boss likes to cut them in half and keep the square cutting portion with the drive for chasing threads. We do all stainless steel parts 316l and 308l mainly and the starter portion gets dull very easily but we often get parts bought in from cnc machined that just need to be chased out or things get chased out after welding to ensure the bolts go in easy on assembly. Well the stub end comes in real handy for all those kinds of applications. I know it was kind of a spiral fracture but you may be able to salvage part of it.

  • @zedostenso3069
    @zedostenso30696 ай бұрын

    I had the same experience with Jacob drill chuck cost around 175.00 the box had all the factory markings but on the chuck body made in China printed boldly on the chuck. Found the same part on EBAY for around 35.00 free shipping returned it to MC. The chuck samed to be a second the finish was poor quality or counterfeit which the CCP is noted for. The other thing I have noticed about them is the Made In China font is getting larger on the packaging.

  • @markstangeland5739
    @markstangeland57396 ай бұрын

    Your American engineering at its best Keith

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown6 ай бұрын

    Happy Sunday Keith......so sad to see your Acme had passed....... cheers my Friend, Paul in Orlando

  • @normsweet1710
    @normsweet17105 ай бұрын

    Looks well engineered to me. Stick a fork in it and call it done 😃😉

  • @johnmolnar2957
    @johnmolnar29576 ай бұрын

    I saw the first break coming , not the second. your title should be How Broke is Two Broke LOL. thanks fro sharing the video. nice work as always

  • @michaeldurling793
    @michaeldurling7936 ай бұрын

    Love it, fix what ya got with what ya got. That's how ya got er done.

  • @mobiousenigma
    @mobiousenigma6 ай бұрын

    hey fenner lol its been a while so i figured i would pester ya. i dont think i could justify the tap cost to the restoration/maintenance bill as it was operator error. either way its a bite to swallow but this way it add value to the saw lol. as always thanks for the vids

  • @DomManInT1
    @DomManInT16 ай бұрын

    I never cared for the "two stage" taps. But, I also have never broken one. A real understanding of threads and thread tolerances and pitch engagements can really help avoiding tap breakage. Most drill tap charts and calculations allow for 70-75% thread engagement. In many case, you can easily get away with as low as 55% thread and still be a serviceable part. I am curious why you did not single point thread this part. Chances and cost of tap breakage would have been zero. Maybe you did not have a threading bar long enough to reach full depth?

  • @KeithFenner

    @KeithFenner

    6 ай бұрын

    That was an option

  • @scottjones7279
    @scottjones72796 ай бұрын

    Nice coffee cup you have there😊

  • @KeithFenner

    @KeithFenner

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you 😊

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown6 ай бұрын

    31:45 , faantastic chips while drilling, I used to make Rope Line Locks for theatrical rigging, using ductile iron castings, drilling using a camelback drill like yours, and would autofeed and get the same type chips.,, I am talking hundreds of 1/4" holes in hundreds of parts.... well, I got lateral epicondylitis from using the hand feed and switched to auto feed....... I was very happy after that.... the clown who had come back to work at the shop who had 20 years there before bitched because the drive made too much noise......FOG......... you can never please them with a better way..... I just let him know he could drill them if the noise bothered him.......

  • @ypaulbrown
    @ypaulbrown6 ай бұрын

    Holy Smokes, when that 2nd broke, I got a terrible feeling in my gut.... so sorry Man.......well, on wit the show, and let me see what else you are up to today.....congratulations on getting the Carpel Tunnel dealt with, I had issues in the middle 90's from using a track ball on computer while doing art......even driving a car or sleeping was painful.....cheers..PB

  • @jacquespoirier9071
    @jacquespoirier90716 ай бұрын

    professionnal job as usual This is only possible if you have other machine tool to thke the job. For an amateur that have only one machine tool, this type of job is not as accessible as the machine tool should be disabled to have access to the component that need repair / rebuild. excellent video.

  • @jodytucker4474
    @jodytucker44746 ай бұрын

    You got doubled tapped twice in 1 hole, that’s got to be a record for you huh??? Hahahaha 😂😂😂

  • @HaxbyShed
    @HaxbyShed6 ай бұрын

    Keith this is so relevant to something I'm doing, and reassuring. Cheers Paul

  • @jryer1
    @jryer16 ай бұрын

    That was awesome Keith. Love old school machining!

  • @keylock9064
    @keylock90646 ай бұрын

    Keith I was Yelling at the computer screen to back that Tap out or you'll break it" Especially after grapping that Giant Crescent Wrench.

  • @stevennederhiser7125
    @stevennederhiser71256 ай бұрын

    Thinking that should have been single pointed!

  • @KeithFenner

    @KeithFenner

    6 ай бұрын

    That's an option

  • @0ADVISOR0
    @0ADVISOR06 ай бұрын

    Fantastic!

  • @frankerceg4349
    @frankerceg43496 ай бұрын

    Thank you Keith!

  • @pyromedichd1
    @pyromedichd16 ай бұрын

    Great job!

  • @jrb_sland
    @jrb_sland6 ай бұрын

    35:40 Well done, Keith! Question - how long will it take you to unlearn your "reach down & around" previous compensation technique? 41:30 Surgical procedures have come a long way. Seems so easy when the right tools exist. God bless modern medicine! But we should also be happy that our own bodies heal themselves without our conscious involvement [once we've sutured the incision, etc]. Great time to be alive!

  • @Hoaxer51
    @Hoaxer516 ай бұрын

    Nice fix, thanks for sharing.

  • @UKDrew
    @UKDrew6 ай бұрын

    Awesome as Always Really enjoyed this one thank you

  • @danceswithaardvarks3284
    @danceswithaardvarks32846 ай бұрын

    Turned out great.

  • @williamfissell1694
    @williamfissell16946 ай бұрын

    Very cool!

  • @christophercullen1236
    @christophercullen12366 ай бұрын

    Have you ever watched Glen Kirchner , 27 million Australians are praying for you. Kit from down under

  • @Copozeras
    @Copozeras6 ай бұрын

    two taps for a half threaded hole .

  • @richardgregory6653
    @richardgregory66536 ай бұрын

    Ouch!! superhuman stiches!

  • @stephenpeterson7479
    @stephenpeterson74796 ай бұрын

    Nice work Keith.

  • @theundergroundesd
    @theundergroundesd6 ай бұрын

    I was getting worried. Good Job

  • @garymallard4699
    @garymallard46996 ай бұрын

    When that Second tap broke...i thought we were going to see you ride the Motorcycle away..and Never See You Again !!! 😂 🇨🇦🤓🤙 Damn..you took that like a Man.... or at least edited how you reacted ...🤔

  • @apollorobb
    @apollorobb6 ай бұрын

    I can assure you if i snapped $400 worth of taps i would have created words that wood make Black Beard head for a church to pray .

  • @johncollins719
    @johncollins7196 ай бұрын

    On my Kalamazoo saw, there is no way humanly possible to install the nut without removing the bed from the chip pan.... 🙁 Major PITA.

  • @ronk6117
    @ronk61176 ай бұрын

    I enjoy watching you do your thing , also nice shot pattern on your target.