Rimmer's line to Kryten "Scrub the diesel deck, all 5 miles!" supports only the habitable area counting.

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutly, plus, if I remember correctly, doesn't the cat looking for toilet paper say he's 'damn near walked 5miles'?

@Alphoric

10 ай бұрын

Plus rimmer isn’t always right so that could be miles off

This is an amazing channel. So glad I found it. RD brings me back to late Friday nights as a kid. Lived in Ireland but had all the UK channels. Red Dwarf. Films like London Kills Me and Naked. TV shows like Eurotrash, Bottom, Never Mind the Buzzcocks. Mtv Europe Beavis and Butthead, Aeon Flux and the Maxx...luckily I had a TV for my Mega Drive(then Saturn and PSX) and the 'pipe' we called it ran into my room for Rte1, Rte2, (TV3 in 99!), BBC 1&2, UTV(itv but Ulster variant. Essentially the same), Channel 4, MTV, TCC, Sky 1 and finally Eurosport. That was 'Cablelink' in Ireland at the time. Red Dwarf has such a strong place in my memories from 8-15, so 92-99. I love how your present the videos, your enthusiasm, your excellent research, your encyclopedic knowledge of the show, your editing...its all flawless 👌

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

Really glad you enjoyed it, hoping to get some more theory vids out soon!

The size of the small crimson one was what i loved about watching red dwarf. I loved the idea of wandering around a city sized deserted space ship.

@RedDwarfNerd

Жыл бұрын

I think the same, the size really fuels your imagination for what life on board must have been like

the size of the Dwarf makes sense, it is a mining ship, if you couldn't mine more than a couple of buckets, it would not be profitable: Now, hauling an entire Mt. Everest home in your belly... Now that is opportunity

@RedDwarfNerd

3 жыл бұрын

Ha, I actually have a video in the pipeline looking at how massive the ship is compared to its tiny crew size and why its so darn huge!

@ThatZenoGuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd IIRC the crew has a huge crew...Granted most of them are scutters.

@4thdoctor284

5 ай бұрын

Well it did have an asteroid sticking out of it's belly being mined.

They are in space so the 'bottom' may be the end with the engine so the average floor height would be 3.11m

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

I've had a few people suggest this now, I'll have to look into the possibility!

Great video, the heights of the floor could be even bigger if the elevator runs down the length of the ship.

Amazing video. This is a fantastic channel. Whenever I see the opening for series 1 and 2 I can’t help but ponder the size of Lister compared to the letters ‘RED DWARF’ let alone the ship entirely. Lister’s height seems roughly to be half of the font’s thickness. I’m sure there’s some clever mathematics which could be done to try and figure out the size of the ship just using the visual clues of Lister painting. Of course, it’d further be really quite interesting to know how it compares to the size which you have figured out in this video. What do you think?

@RedDwarfNerd

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I did think of doing it from that point of view, but the scale gets even more skewed as Lister is too big for the ship to be 5miles! The remastered blu ray opening has Lister at a better scale if memory serves.

@Bruh-zx2mc

Жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd The sign is also much smaller on the remastered model, so that further tilts the scales.

Have you done a video covering the interior sets during Series 1-5? Like the sleeping quarters, drive room, science lab, medical unit, corridors, refectory etc.? Always wondered if the Series 3-5 interiors are meant to be the same as Series 1-2 heavily refurbished or if the guys moved out of their old quarters as they had free access to the whole ship. I like to think the latter since Red Dwarf is meant to be large with so many floors.

@RedDwarfNerd

11 ай бұрын

I've not done that as a video, but I should! Spoiler: its supposed to be that they moved themselves up market into the officers quarters 😊

@AndrewChapman

11 ай бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd Ah okay, I figured that. Thanks.

In the novel they have golf carts or something to get around on the ship with, which makes sense with this size of ship.

Great video! Just one note, technically the Titanic was an ocean liner, not a cruise ship.

@RedDwarfNerd

Жыл бұрын

Very fair point! I have recently watched a couple of vids about ships and realised there is a difference for ships built to withstand crossing oceans! well spotted!

It’d be interesting to see red dwarf compared to other ship’s from Sci fi series, such as the enterprise 😁

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that would be cool... although most other things would like tiny compared to the dwarf!

@worldcomicsreview354

Жыл бұрын

The TOS Enterprise was ~450m, so about two Titanics, so would also disappear against the Dwarf. With that in mind, I was thinking about the size of ships for my own Sci-fi stories a few years back, when I walked to work amongst some warehouses and truck stops. Some of the 3-4 storey warehouses (those are storeys for big crates, too, not people!) could do backflips in the internal volume of a 1500m long chisel-like ship. In Red Dwarf you could get 22 of them to play a footy match!

@davidwuhrer6704

Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to compare real-life spaceships and fictional space ships. The Saturn V would be a good starting point. And the ISS of course. Compare that to the most iconic fictional space ships, like the TOS Enterprise, the TNG Enterprise, DS9, the Star Destroyers from Star Wars, the Battlestar Galactica, and several ships from Perry Rhodan, starting with the Marco Polo and the Sol. Red Dwarf is not as long as the Sol, but bulkier, so would top it in volume.

@darkjapan

Жыл бұрын

If you Google Space Ship Size comparison, there is an image that includes Red Dwarf, but there are some even bigger ships out there! RD looks small by comparison!

@chrissonofpear1384

Жыл бұрын

@@worldcomicsreview354 TOS Enterprise actually more like 947 to 1085 feet, by most estimates. So from 288 to 327 or so meters.

It's been at least 20 years since I read the books, but if I recall it was 3x2 miles there, too. And are we sure the decks are built across the ship and not vertically, as that would allow plenty of room for those several thousand floors.

@RedDwarfNerd

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, the vertical floor idea has been suggested a few times, I'll have to do an episode looking at this one.

Now I'm interested in seeing the sizes of the other Red Dwarfs

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

That could be very interesting, the series 8 version either has to be massively longer, or far less tall!

@chrissonofpear1384

Жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd By the way - did you figure out how big Starbug is? Seems to grow quite a bit between 'Backwards' and 'Tikka to Ride' Remastered. Might max out at 120 ft, say, even 150.

@luckygrunt

10 ай бұрын

@@chrissonofpear1384 I believe they said that the the time drive caused a singularity inside the bug, causing it's interior to be much larger than how it was originally built. In real life, this was because the writers wanted more to work with than just the fairly titchy Starbug. In the show, they do use the space for a lot of different things. Think of it like the TARDIS. The exterior of Starbug remained the same, but the time drive caused a sort of pocket dimension that was much larger on the interior of Starbug. I forget the exact numbers used in the show, but it's something like 200% larger than originally built.

The little guy painting the name on the ship must have been king Kong by this scale.

Comparing it to everest certainly brings it into perspective!

Just think how much fun it'd be to explore. You'd never run out doors to force open or seldom used corridors to wander down.

It's much smaller if you scale it by lister being about a third of the height of the width of the line of the F he's painting on the ship in the intro.

@RedDwarfNerd

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting, really appreciate it! 👍

@RoqueFortStu

Жыл бұрын

this is exactly what I thought, the space-painter would be massively out of proportion with regards to these calculations. I guess they hadn't decided on the size of the ship when they made that intro

1:48 rotate the decks 90° clockwise and you'll get you correct deck height.

@RedDwarfNerd

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've seen a diagrams people have made suggesting that, I'll have to look into that one more closely!

@02:34 6.52ft for a room height is extremely low. The measurements I've seen online say the ship is 6 miles (10 km) long, 5 miles (8 km) tall, and 4 miles (6 km) wide. If you divide 5 miles by 3000 floors, which it also says there is, you get an average room height of 8.8ft which is much closer to the scenes in the show and a realistic room height. The references in the TV show suggest the ship length is 5 miles long, but if you take out the areas where crew cant get too easily e.g. the engine/afterburners, then this would also make sense for them to say it was 5 miles instead of 6. :) Love your channel btw! :)

That's a crazy good video!

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers, appreciated!

Brilliant!

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks alot! 👍

@militarymysteriesuk

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd you deserve it!

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

@@militarymysteriesuk thanks!

Great video! Loved your example of the Humber Bridge; as a fellow commuter to the North Bank every day certainly puts it into perspective!

@RedDwarfNerd

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah, I thought it would make a good comparison, now if only I could figure out why the bridge has been down to one lane for over a year that would be helpful! :-)

@KHScienceClubxmas

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd Oh I wish I knew why it was one lane too! I wouldn’t mind if you could actually see people working there! I’d understand it more! Lol.

It also says in the red dwarf season 1 documentary they say it a huge 5 mile long ship

@RedDwarfNerd

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers HardKermit69

Great vid 👌🏼

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed! 👍

6.5 feet per deck? Do the floors have no thickness?

Love your content. I hope to see more videos. Keep up the great work ✌

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, I'm working on freeing up time to make more vids ASAP!

Great video but in other languages cat says 10 kilometers instead of 5 miles. That would mean the ship is 15,98km. And that's a long boi.

@RedDwarfNerd

Жыл бұрын

Ah that's interesting. Although, on my old BBC dvd's the subtitles are terribly written and barely match the dialogue, which makes me question if the translations had much effort put in either!?

@darkjapan

Жыл бұрын

​@@RedDwarfNerd I can tell you from experience that the Japanese dubb is very accurate. Although NHK did cut the episodes a lot. I wrote two whole pages about it on the tongue tied wiki. Thanks very much for the very informative video! Subscribed!

Cat has lived inside the ship it's all life so 5 miles habitable area makes sense.

@RedDwarfNerd

Жыл бұрын

yeah, it needs to be really big for the cat race to be possible

Noice video nice work I see you put time and effort into this stuff keep it up

@RedDwarfNerd

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, tbh, compared to the rigmoral of having to film guitars, vids on this channel are comparitivly low effort! 😂

Rewatch time! Love the videos Dan! Please continue to do these as often as possible. Also, I'm hoping to buy a shirt soon to also support your deeds

@RedDwarfNerd

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. Tshirt designs arnt done yet, but I'll put out an update soon :-) Thanks for watching and commenting, really appreciate it! 👍

Is it ever established in cannon that the decks run along the ship? I always thought they mightve been stacked vertically from engine to ram scoop. That way the engine's thrust could simulate gravity.

Great video. Love Dwarf and like your content keep it up mate ✌👊

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a ton!

Alternatively, the decks could go front-to-back. Gravity in space is flexible, after all. 5 miles long, roughly 3000 floors, that gives us more than 8.5 feet per floor. That's easily doable - average UK ceiling height is less than that. I can see plenty of other commenters have mentioned it already too :)

6:41 provided that the camera's pov is stationary

@RedDwarfNerd

10 ай бұрын

That's very true, the camera could be said to be a on a craft traveling away from red dwarf.

Cool video. Nice one.

@RedDwarfNerd

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers, much appreciated! 👍

If the floors were stacked on top of each other from the ram scoop to the engine then you could get the floors in without cheating a little.. Although we do see the floors level with the horizontal portion in the opening credits.

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this is an idea I've seen floated about quite a bit, it kinda turns red dwarf into a more conventional stacked rocket shape. TBH it is a possible one, although I think the wording would then shift to be 'a spaceship 5 miles TALL' rather than long.

@RichardDzien

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd 5 miles tall or long, and there still isn't enough sockets in the scanner room!

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

@@RichardDzien gotta have that hot wax strip unsightly hair remover! 😂

I just found your channel! I hope you continue uploading👍 no work today so im going to binge watch this channel and maybe some red dwarf with a nice cool beer

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, hope you enjoy! I do have plans in the pipeline for more content soon... Hopefully! 😊

It’s five miles, it says in the book

@RedDwarfNerd

Жыл бұрын

Fair deal!

Another fantastic video I love the vids you upload that make the dwarf feels real and alive

@RedDwarfNerd

3 жыл бұрын

You mean it's not real!?... 😂😂😂

@jacobleetaylor

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd I suppose considering it is set in the future it’s more accurate to say not real yet 😂

@RedDwarfNerd

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacobleetaylor phew! You had me worried there for a min! 😂

@jacobleetaylor

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd Don’t worry bud I saw it in a future echo 😂

Very interesting video, not sure the writers actually thought about this

@RedDwarfNerd

3 жыл бұрын

I recon they would of had dimensions in their heads, but the miniature guys probably just made the ship however was most convenient!

@davidwuhrer6704

Жыл бұрын

The book has some calculations and comparisons about the size and volume, so the writers certainly thought about this.

I want them to do a episode showing the gardens inside red dwarf

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

That would be cool, tbh I'd be happy with any extra detail beyond the usual quarters and the prison!

@marthastubbs8321

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd it'll never happen but id love them to have to go back to say their series 3 quarters for an episode to find something they left there or to hide from an intruder or something

Surely the best way to actually measure it, is from the part where the letters are being painted. Using 6ft for the size of the person, you should be able to get a rough estimate.

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that would be a good way. The trouble is that the person (usually presumed to be Lister) had to be filmed/framed in a way that makes them far to tall, making the ship really small.

@ImmortalDuke

Жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd That is just a maintenance hologram

@RedDwarfNerd

Жыл бұрын

@@ImmortalDuke i like your thinking! 👍😊

@RedDwarfNerd

Жыл бұрын

@MaxDecimus13 the problem with the opening titles ship painting, is that it actually makes the ship way too small. It would wind up being nowhere near any measurement ever quoted onscreen.

Great video, but I don't think you really ended up talking about the novels? 🤔 So, how big are Copenhagen and Helsingør, anyway? 🙂

If you’re interested... Using the measurements on Red Dwarf wiki, and assuming the width as the season 8 ship is the same width as the original, using the Corgi model as a basis... I calculated the length of the long version of the ship as 29.4km or 18.3 miles. I got bored one evening...

I was told that the ship is also three miles high and three miles deep.

@RedDwarfNerd

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting, really appreciate it! 👍

@RandomVideos66

Жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd You're welcome.

Um... What about Lister on p.d.? Paint detail? The scale of him and the ship's name?

@RedDwarfNerd

3 жыл бұрын

I did think of that one, I think I'll have to look at that in its own video as from memory it's quite a different scale (listers far too big)!

@willadeefriesland5107

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd Thanks, Good work on the video...

You would probably need about 800 years to build something like this.

Ram scoop? I thought that thing was to catch asteroids.

@RedDwarfNerd

2 жыл бұрын

The books describe it as taking in particles from space to use for propulsion somehow. :-)

@Voltaic_Fire

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd Aye, that is how ram scoops work, drawing in stellar matter and compressing it into a useful form, I just didn't think that was was one on front of the small rouge one given the gaps in the sides.

I have just begun rewatching red dwarf for the first time since I was a child in the 90s, love it! This link is a vid comparing various starship sizes kzread.info/dash/bejne/pnts16VrZKrIn9Y.html

No wonder they call you “Red Dwarf Nerd” you’re good at Math, better math then me..l

@RedDwarfNerd

3 жыл бұрын

Ha, I had to use a calculator and a lot of help from Google! :-)

@damimates

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedDwarfNerd *o h*

I came here after watching top seven most durable ships in SF and they didn't even mention Red Dwarf. What a heretics.

@rayvenkman2087

Жыл бұрын

It ain’t idiot proof. Case in point, Rimmer and Lister.

So it's big then?

@RedDwarfNerd

10 ай бұрын

Ha, yeah, big, red and ugly! :-)

Red Dwarf can not be 5 miles long no matter HOW you measure it. In the opening credits of Series 1, Dave Lister is seen outside the ship with a broom painting the F of 'Dwarf'. He is shown (including the spacesuit) to be about half the size of the cross-line halfway up the F. Comparing the height of Lister to the length of the ship, it can NOT be more than 2,0000 FEET long and 1,100 FEET high. No matter what mathematics you use, you cannot get anywhere ONE mile never mind five. Also, IF Lister is the last human in the Universe, WHY did the ship keep changing appearance? WHO made the changes and where? None of it adds up. Still, it is a classic show and needs to brought back, How about a PROPER feature film?

That is bullshit; a lot of the rooms are taller than maybe 7 meters. The Cat is not a smart person.