Why? Because why not!

I'm hooked. We need to see the linux video.

I have an HP Pavilion dv2000 Entertainment PC from 2006 with Ubuntu Linux installed. The laptop originally had Windows Vista but I changed it to Ubuntu. It runs better on Ubuntu than it does on Windows Vista. The laptop is 17 years old and even has a working battery.

One idea you could have done is Taken the built in vista drivers and tried them on windows 10. Windows vista uses WDDM 1.0 for its driver model, and I’m pretty sure Windows 10 still supports WDDM 1.0 (windows 11 definitely doesn’t). You could install vista, find the video device and look for the driver files it’s using then import those files into windows 10 and try it

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

GMA 900 cannot handle WDDM, it doesn’t have a hardware scheduler which is a requirement

@dw_2005

3 ай бұрын

@@mustasheolll2020Makes sense, But doesnt Vista have a WDDM 1.0 driver still though? Once i got Vista working with a Geforce4 MX 440, no aero naturally but the driver said WDDM 1.0 next to the name of the device. That driver came with Vista and was a Microsoft branded driver.

nice video, im your 600th subscriber btw

@PotatoGaming5005

3 ай бұрын

Remember me when you are very popular!

@mrfoxesite

3 ай бұрын

ok

Don't think you're limited with Dell's driver page. I recommend trying to search for GPU's hardware ID and if you find a 32 bit driver, it's gonna work anyways so give it a try

I remember using Windows 10 on Aspire 5315 from 2008 with Celeron 540 and 3 GB DDR2 in 2018. Whole laptop runed on patience and prayers and worked only on Windows 10 1709. Newer version not even worked, they freezed at installation stage. I'm happy that then I built i3-6100 PC, which at least worked without problems and runned some games

This was the first new laptop I bought, was really impressed with it at the time. Was only £350 here although it was the smaller screen/huge bezels version, later upgraded it to 2gb ram.

Windows 7 would realistically be your best option in terms of Windows support on that laptop. While you might even be able to find an “enhanced” basic driver that gives you the native resolution of that laptop, and I’ve seen that with older Windows versions, it’s not going to be better than just using Windows 7 with the native XP driver. In terms of Linux, modern Linux kernels still have the 910/915 chipset driver built-in, however, performance is lackluster, to say the least. While it depends on the Linux distro you choose, you’ll likely have sluggish performance across all modern distros simply due to the fact that the iGPU doesn’t have enough power to run the fancy animations and effects they use. So ultimately, it’s up to your personal preference. :)

be good to see more laptops

You're really underrated, I enjoy your video a whole lot, and I thought you would have 10k subs at least. You deserve more

@betapyteag

3 ай бұрын

thank you! maybe someday that will be the case…

@Iqaluitio

3 ай бұрын

@@betapyteag I just realized, I meant videos*

@mintybudgie

3 ай бұрын

agreed

Please do a video on the 2018 dell inspirion. Its the one I used to use and its SLOW

Try windows 8.1 and see if the graphic drivers work on there. I remember handling some 2005-2007 laptops at workplace, and every single one that was forcibly updated to windows 10 32 bit had driver issues, half of them couldn't get the network to work. But the windows 7/8.1 ones worked fine and could recognize drivers. Worth a shot imo. Also there are extra updates you can get until around 2026 with windows 8.1, through legacy update and other tools, as they are pulled from official long time support versions of actual windows.

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

Windows 8+ uses the same graphics drivers as Vista

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

This is why people didn’t like Vista.

I got this recommented

@betapyteag

3 ай бұрын

Nice

@SW73_stopmawxp

3 ай бұрын

So did I

@dxciphr

3 ай бұрын

Me too

@Solinaru

3 ай бұрын

same lol

The GMA 900 unfortunately couldn’t run WDDM because according to Intel it lacked a hardware scheduler. Sucks too because it was a very popular chip in laptops right before Vista’s release.

your videos have such high quality. i am actually impressed. how do you have only 600subs? u deserve 600k subs

hecc yeah! good video

noticed snappy driver installer mentioning the driver wasn't signed I wonder if windows would have at least tried to use it if driver signature enforcement was turned off... idk tho

@betapyteag

3 ай бұрын

I actually tried this off camera but it didn’t change anything

try to disable driver signature enforcement by pressing f8 on startup

what about using iobit's driver booster?

Trying to play any kind of game on this thing would be so painful Would be like making inputs in a different timeline and waiting for it to catch up

all the pain with the graphics driver makes me wonder if that Vista driver would work with driver signature enforcement disabled. Otherwise, in my experience, Windows 8.0 seems to work fine with Vista graphics drivers, so that could be worth a go.

@betapyteag

3 ай бұрын

I tried disabling drive signature enforcement on startup but it didn’t change anything.

@whitebeartigtig

3 ай бұрын

@@betapyteag damn, was worth a try

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

The GMA 900 cannot run WDDM period because it doesn’t have a Hardware scheduler which is a requirement for WDDM I believe.

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

But you can see in the video that it emulated WDDM, albeit, like crap.

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

Many people back then bought these “Vista Capable” laptops back then but then no WDDM driver. Mike Nash from Microsoft fell victim to this himself. But they weren’t labeled premium ready, which had a GPU (like GMA 950) that could run WDDM, but I don’t care, I will never trust Microsoft again with these kinds of things.

There's a way to disable Windows update from running an auto update. I've not tried it on manual updates. So it might not allow manual updating of Windows. What you can do is that you can go to services and disable Windows Update. What that does is that it causes Windows to fail to update.

Best Channel ever.

you could try get drivers with driver booster

Windows 10 Enterprise is favourable for a vanilla install though, as it only has the base OS without the bloatware and the forced upgrades.

I have a Compaq CQ60-215DX, I was able to find a graphic driver, but what I realized is that your cpu stays at a fixed speed, mine which I upgraded goes from 0.55 or lower to 2.20ghz, also your ram speed is 99mhz and mine is like 667mhz.

You should probably try XP with an extended kernel or Linux!

How did you manage to boot Windows 10 on a Pentium M735 if it doesn't have the NX bit?

I would install Windows 8.1 honestly because it got security updates up to 2023, where this 2017 version of Windows 10 probablt didn't get updates that long. You can also try Windows 10 LTSB 2016, but it may be hard to obtain an ISO and activate it

Dell's unsupported laptops are very picky with Windows versions that exceed their release dates, from my experience at least. I personally recommend sticking with the system that their site has drivers for, otherwise it's nearly always a miss. Snappy Driver helps a lot in some instances, but I always opt for using their drivers due to proper compatibility with the hardware. I had this issue plenty of times where a driver from SDI would cause the GPU driver to go bad, and just black screen, leaving me only with formatting and reinstalling the fresh OS again. I tried Win 10 on E5500, E6510 and E6520 On Win 10 the only thing that 'sorta' worked were video card drivers downloaded from Windows Update. These however lacked a control panel, but the system felt smoother actually, than with the drivers for Win 7. E5500 just lagged heavily, and the control panel didn't respect the changes made in it. E6510 however always had a black screen with the Win 7 drivers on 10. Both of these came with some sort of Intel GMA's, which I don't think even have official support for anything newer than Win 7. The E6520 I have came with some NVIDIA card, and it also acted strangely, mainly it just stuttered in the system, despite the control panel being there. I even tried a driver from NVIDIA's site directly, but it actually caused a black screen. Maybe something is wrong with that laptop though, as it always displays "ME is in recovery mode." upon booting. The supposed solution for that was to flash the BIOS. I went through all the versions, but it still remained, so I don't even know what went wrong with it. As long as it works though, I'm gonna keep using it as a portable movie player. The 1080p screen in these has really great viewing angles. I had once got my hands on E6500 with 1980x1200, but I passed it over to a friend. It was also of great quality despite not being IPS. Overall, it gets quite sickening, but that's just how it is with these. ThinkPad users seem to have it way easier, as I've seen plenty of people installing 10 or even 11 on stuff like T61 or T400. While CPU is significantly suffering there, they at least have all the drivers working properly. At least E6x30 series supports Win 10 natively (and by that regard, Win 11 works there swell too!).

@dfuserxyz

3 ай бұрын

The Latitude E6420 with the NVS 4200M works fine. You might have either a bad driver or a bad GPU.

@thewildlilhorseisfree

3 ай бұрын

it would also break opengl support on intel gma chips, so if you wanted to play minecraft you can't

@kotohime

3 ай бұрын

@@thewildlilhorseisfree Intel GMA's and Minecraft portray a quite funny behavior. I remember D510 and D520 not running the game at all, under any system. I tried it on Windows versions from 2k all the way to 7, and on some revision of Ubuntu, it was 16.04 if I'm not mistaken. However I just assume that the GMA in there was just outdated. Someone once suggested me that the driver may be just outdated and needs an update, but I haven't found anything newer than 2006. I can't check what GMA it was in these laptops, but I assume it just lacked OpenGL 2.0 in general.

Actually, try Chrome OS Flex. I'm curious how would that go.

Try 32 bit windows 7 ultimate or super lite, its only 600-700MB and will pickup the drivers as well or you can use any android OS, there are many so youhave to try then them and dont even need installation, simply run them from usb for testing.

I know for a fact that windows 10 and 11 were forcing updates, i changed the registry and it never bothered me again.

3dp chip for drivers

I'm impressed it did not exploded

Well too bad the GMA900 never got fully DX9 compliant, otherwise it would definitely work and we'd even have fully working Windows 10 on the first EeePC, considering the chipset is identical and the Celeron M 353 on it supports all needed for Win10

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

And these were labeled “Vista Capable” 😂

Bruh they need to do somethung about this , cuz my 2014 laptop is dying becuz of updates, especially is video games , they increase the system min reuquirements when it feels the same FPS anyways 🙄

with ssd it world almost work, with hdd i don't think you have a chance i have very similar computer running windows 7 even though it came with celeron m 1300 no os and windows xp home and harddrive is the biggest bottleneck of vista and windows 10 not so much for windows 7 surprisingly with windows 7 when i tryed again and again to force newest windows xp drivers for the graphics it eventually gobbled it and kind of work but i doubt it can work with windows 10 edit intel 852gm on windows 7 non wdm driver

make a stripped 1703 iso and see how that perfoms!

i tried using speccy, is there any reason why a 1080ti is reporting 3000 MB of physical memory?

@betapyteag

3 ай бұрын

i believe speccy is finicky with modern hardware. could be wrong though

@taiga9675

3 ай бұрын

@@betapyteag yeah, I tried a benchmark and I was using 9GB and and number was confused it kept changing but the strange part is in the details page in the text as you go down it's shows the 11GB, still for everything else is correct and a useful tool, thank you for showing us all this 🙏

I noticed you installed 32 bit Windows. Does the laptop support 64 bit OS?

@betapyteag

3 ай бұрын

it does not

i want to see a linux and a hackintosh video :3

@idk13212

2 ай бұрын

HELP MY COMMENT GOT MENTIONED IN THE NEXT VID ABOUT THIS

installing linux on it is the only way to revive or make something that old usable

@MortCodesWeb

3 ай бұрын

Trust me. It will run worse. Distros dont have any features to tone down animations and stuff like windows does. But XFCE works alr

@powerdollkirby

3 ай бұрын

​@@MortCodesWeblol that just a lie, linux will always perform better than windows, certainly in gaming, depends saying it will run worse or "Distros don't have any features to tone down animations like windows does" shows how little you know about linux. arch, manjaro, lubuntu, anti x, mint will run way better than windows no matter what also, XFCE is a desktop environment, not a distro

@mrfoxesite

3 ай бұрын

no. linux has long gone removed 32-bit support. LTSB 2016 or stripped down 1703 would be the best option. i know some of the hard to use and advanced technical terminal only distros support 32-bit.

@powerdollkirby

3 ай бұрын

@@mrfoxesiteLOL WHAT linux still supports 32bit what tf are you on there is arch linux 32bit, debian, mint, void, opensuse. porteus, alpine, zorin and way more. idk what you mean by "dvanced technical terminal only distros support 32-bit"

@mrfoxesite

3 ай бұрын

ok but those are harder to use and is boring because we know it will be smooth the fun is seeing how windows runs on there.@@powerdollkirby

Try installing windows 11 (you can bypass requierments trought registry)

@mrfoxesite

3 ай бұрын

it is 64-bit only.

I love the Pentium M.

personaly i do the same with all my tech

Barely any I/O? That's basically a prediction of Apple removing almost all the ports on the 2015 MacBook (only 1 USB-C and headphone jack!)

u should try windows server 2016/19/22 or maybe ltsc/ltsb, they are good for old pcs (if no 64x like on this pc try ltsc/ltsb, and especially older builds)

this is like my school n100 hp on win 11

yea you probably would have more luck installing linux on an HP stream than this. at least the HP streams are great linux laptops and have great keyboards and a decent touchpad also you can still get about 6 hours from the battery to this day for me.

Better than my purple HP Stream Laptop from 2018/2019.

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

There were useless since factory! I used used a Pentium M laptop in 2015 running Windows 8. It ran alright but no video driver so kind of ugly at times.

it has to e the dell windows 10 oem version

SSD'S/Solid state drives are better then hard drives ssds have no moving parts while hard drives do

@betapyteag

3 ай бұрын

yeah i know that, this laptop is IDE so i can’t use anything like that.

If it had a graphics driver, it would have been fine.

"Why?" "idk" lmao

I would put windows XP or 7 on it for running old windows programs. While a linux distro itself would be more responsive than windows 10 on this laptop, consider how bloated modern web browsers and the modern internet are. They'll slow it to a crawl.

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I would say for these budget 2005/2006 computers, 7 at latest and even that’s a stretch.

Windows: _Sucks_ People: "If I want to keep using this, I can't have graphics!" Linux: _Exists_ People: Boring!

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

Mac for da win ✊

I'd just drive a fist through the laptop screen, it's the only thing that this laptop deserves.

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

Yeah it aged poorly, if it were a 1 or 2 newer it would have been fine.

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

What so bad about it?

Windows 10 does look good on that laptop though.

Bro try using driver booster to install the graphics driver

Realistically this laptop cannot run anything past 7 well, in fact, even that’s a stretch.

Drinking game: take a shot every time he says "update" "driver" or "graphics"

Put in SSD drive!!!!!!

try windows 10 ltsb 2016. it has updates till 2026 and is based on windows 10 1607. it has no bloatware and 1709 is super buggy. open the start menu and see. you will see modern icons and old fully flat icons. it won't upgrade to ltsc 2021. also you could have shrunk the drive to have >8GB of space so feature updates can't install. then go to group policy editor and disable, configure windows update and allow windows update immediate installation. this could stop store updates. idk on that one lol. then expand the drive. edit: a debloated 1703 iso would be perfect and can be used for retro gaming and all.

I laugh, because my faculty computers have the same specs as this laptop LOLOL, IT FACULTY

@gabrielv.4358

3 ай бұрын

First gen i7 and 8gb of ram. It lags more than this laptop, weirldly

Put Tiny 11 on it

Keep Windows xp

Now try my old PC... 2 GB of ram

I think it's better to use windows 7 on it lol

Bro use windows 7

@Visquint

3 ай бұрын

no, unsupported bad operating system

Honestly, it’s a hunk of hot garbage. Damn thing can’t even run WDDM?

linux? why not for science!

@betapyteag

3 ай бұрын

perhaps

School Laptop:

Linux is a Boring option. Agreed!!

@Visquint

3 ай бұрын

how is it boring

@agoston9835

3 ай бұрын

Only thing that will run on this old laptop is some lightweight linux distro or winxp/vista. Also linux is not boring if you know how to use it , which is not really hard you have lot of tutorials on the internet .

@mrfoxesite

3 ай бұрын

no we know it works the fun is running stuff that it shouldn't.@@agoston9835

@mustasheolll2020

3 ай бұрын

Honestly, I would just take your money and buy a better computer at this point, this laptop was dated since 2008!

HELL NAHHHHH why? its for science i think your trying blow up your house hmmm interesting

This guy is me

@betapyteag

3 ай бұрын

NO WAY

@Vast_isnotatryhard

3 ай бұрын

ikr i should be pinned

peggle

@betapyteag

3 ай бұрын

thank you Balls Gaming