Hi Guys, Sorry if this video isn't quite as polished as the other recent videos :( We were meant to shoot over 2 days, but due to poor weather we only had one day which meant all the testing then filming was rushed, plus we couldn't get the drone in the air, so it's only ground shots. The results are still super interesting. The budget tyres really were good in numbers, and priced extremely well too, but numbers only tell half the story. When compared to the Continental premium tyres, the budget tyres were extremely difficult to drive quickly, and prone to surprise understeer or oversteer, not what you want on the road.

@CaseyFinSF

7 жыл бұрын

Tyre Reviews I know how much you love comparing these rubber shoes on the slick nice sports cars, BUT do you think you can pry yourself away from those chick magnets and do some comparative testing on some of the bulkier vehicles like maybe some trucks, or better yet on an American Cargo Van type road warrior since there are many millions of people and businesses who use that type of vehicle on a daily basis. Compare some All Terrain tires would be very interesting and make up the virtues of the higher priced ones vs the lower end ones. If you start doing some of those types of video I can almost guarantee you that some of those would go viral... Just sayin.....😎👍👌

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Casey - The Original Conspiracy Realist interestingly I'm planning a 4x4 video with the new Goodyear Wrangler All Terrain Adventure tyre! Fingers crossed it'll happen soon

@CaseyFinSF

7 жыл бұрын

Tyre Reviews That's great! I'll be looking forward to that. I'd be interested in how well the tread clears water as well as mud on the AT's. Not that I plan much mudding in my van, but it'd be nice to know how well they do in an off road situation and if they really help you get unstuck if you were unlucky. Puncture resistance is also of some interest, with notating how many layers of (kevlar/or steel mesh/ or?) , and also how well protected the sidewalls are. If I'm going to spend the extra for the Goodyear or other brand names it would be helpful to know what perks they have and compared to another model. Hope I gave you enough to ponder in your sleep, and start thinking how to test and film those variables for the presentation. (GOODYEAR vs FIRESTONE is always a great draw factor...could even go viral if done right.... now I got your wheels spinning..hehe... of course the pun was intended!) Good Luck😎👍👌

@soundseeker63

7 жыл бұрын

This was an interesting test but I'd like to see it done again with a more normal car like a C220d or a fwd hatch. The C63 is a serious performance car well known for initial understeer switching to extreme oversteer under power, so I wonder if the subjective handling differences observed here would be as noticeable in a more normal and less powerful car, i.e the kind of stuff most people drive.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

I've tested budget tyres in smaller sizes on cars like Golfs and BMW 1 Series, and honestly, the gap between the budget and premiums has been much larger than on this test. There are so many bad tyre options in 205/55 R16!

Tyres are the one thing you shouldn't cheap out on. If they save you from one crash, even a small one, they will pay for themselves.

@Masteraal

7 жыл бұрын

Oh and also, I'm assuming these tyres are new. Wonder how they would be after its worn 50%.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Great points!

@travisgisme

7 жыл бұрын

Aalok Galappatti but the cheaper prices outweigh the chance of you crashing during everyday driving

@Masteraal

7 жыл бұрын

Not in my eyes. But then again, I love driving, so I always get the best tyres that I can find.

@FirearmTutorials

7 жыл бұрын

Agree 100% Tires and breaks, most important part of the car.

7:40 - mirror folded, 7:43 - mirror unfolded xD

@tyrereviews

5 жыл бұрын

Good eyes!

@brent1835

5 жыл бұрын

Fuck off zyzz

Test budget tyres on a 10year old Fiesta, the true market for such tyres. If you have a Merc AMG and fit budget tyres you're mad... I replaced old cheap Chinese tyres on my secondhand Cmax, with reasonably priced Firestones, and the car was transformed, for £200 all round. Theres cheap and budget.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Glad you're getting on with the tyres. The new Firestone Roadhawk is a real gem!

@AndySnap

6 жыл бұрын

Yup, Roadhawks. Wonderful tyres.

@ThomasNing

5 жыл бұрын

I just put pilot sport 3s on a 10 year old fiesta, and they feel fantastic as expected, but also the difference in ride comfort and noise is huge to the mid tier tyres on it before. Even if dry performance is not much better, wet performance is huge, and was definitely worth it imo.

@otacdjeteta6126

5 жыл бұрын

From what i saw,there are much more expensive cars on chinese tires than cheap older and less powerfull cars...

@londontrucker6804

5 жыл бұрын

I think you are right. Sort of.. but I bought my 52 REG Octavia estate with half worn 7 years old Kumho Solis tyres. I have replaced them with a set of Rovelo RPX 988. There was a huge difference. It was more comfortable, less noisy, and also less skidding. I think you can buy real cheap, but really good quality tyres. How many cars in the UK are driving on 4 different tyres? In the rest of Europe a car is not passing an MOT if tyres are not matching on axels. When I was getting my Rovelos at National I guy drove in with a 2 years old merc and asking for 1 second hand tyre. Of course he was told, that was not the place for him...

As someone else pointed out, this is a powerful expensive car, would my nan in her fiesta 1.25 zetec notice any difference, or for that matter the 90% of drivers who drive well within the capabilities of their vehicles. Would be interesting to see if budget tyres are the best option for the majority, or if premium tyres still offer enough benefits to justify the extra cost 🤔🙃🙂

@MultiBadman123456789

2 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@marcomaccarone72

2 жыл бұрын

What you said is right, but even if you drive slow and careful, when you have to do an emergency braking, the premium tyre can save you, especially on the wet. Furthermore, the performance of a premium tyre lasts nearly for his entire life, while the performance of a cheap tyre starts to fade really quickly when it is consumed

@BySixa

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, yes they would. Not having any scenario where budgets are acceptable. Theyre dangerous!

@The_Repairman_Workshop

2 жыл бұрын

Budgets tyres are a false economy, they are usually made from soft compounds so wear out quicker than premium or mid range brands.

@showt1me133

2 жыл бұрын

Premium tyres don't cost that much on smaller sizes anyway

Thanks for the video's. Could you guys make one about tire pressure and the difference it makes driving with regular and lower pressure due to neglection!

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

jdvosix it's certainly on the list :) it's a very complicated subject though so needs to be planned properly

@JeremyHansford

6 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see the same.. it’s a hot topic :)

Love these videos! Has my mind totally made up for my car plans now ... Sticking with 17 inch wheels and putting premium tyres (Goodyear asymmetric 3's) on them 👌🏼

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Glad we could be useful, let me know how you get on with the new setup :)

Could you make the same video, but the test car is a 60hp Skoda Fabia?

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

It might not be a Skoda Fabia, but we'll look to make the same video using a more normal car (probably a Golf diesel)

@VioleNFaN

7 жыл бұрын

Nice. I would love to hear "These continentals are fantastic...Yes!" Going full throttle out in a corner in a Golf diesel.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

:D I will do my best!

@RennieAsh

6 жыл бұрын

Lol Why not use some random Nissan Pulsar or Toyota Corolla standard type car

@A1DJPaul

6 жыл бұрын

YES ? WHY USE a fast car ? Test tyres on a 5 or 6 yr old 80,000 mile Fiesta/ Focus, Corsa / Astra, OR other Best selling avg' car with average engine size. Big Fat low Profiles on an AMG ? ? they should be dammed PERFECT ! !

My uncle had a BMW 740i years ago. He put budget tyres and guess what, he crashed the BMW exiting a roundabout under the rain. Myself, when I was a young worker, I didn't have a lot of money and I put budget tyres on my first car. One wet sunday morning, going to work, I lost steering, went on the banking, and the car made one roll. Dead. Now, I don't look at budget tyres, I always buy the best after watching a lot of reviews and tests. It's even more important for my motorbike...

@tyrereviews

5 жыл бұрын

There's a good reason no one buys budget tyres on a motorbike, they realise how important tyres are!

@chrisredfield3240

5 жыл бұрын

Hard to enjoy understeer on a motorcycle.

@chrisredfield3240

5 жыл бұрын

I don't like crashing so i buy the best tyres i can, never know what's coming next that's how life is.

@zepter00

5 жыл бұрын

Its good to buy tires after tests..until tire producers like Cont.. were catched to pay testers and prepered specia, the better one versions of tires because They knew where hese tires will be bought. Cont... did that many years.

@CaptainDangeax

5 жыл бұрын

@@zepter00 In the same league, French auto newspaper "auto plus" is owned by... Volkswagen. No wonder why the golf always wins compare against any other brand.

Since very few of us will ever be on a F1 race track the quastion is " do the budget tires suffice for normal driving conditions?"

@BySixa

2 жыл бұрын

No, no they dont. All it takes is you to not grip up doing an emergency brake and youve hit a child

@snowball05

2 жыл бұрын

If you've never had good quality tyres then you probably won't think the cheapies are too bad but from my experience, when I changed to Michellin PS3 and then 4, I can't go back. You really notice the difference in wet/cold conditions.

The real question is: "Is it worth saving a few hundred bucks to risk a much greater chance of crashing your car, ending up with an EXPENSIVE repair bill, AND ruining your life because someone got injured or killed?

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

4G12 I think no. But the cheaper end of the market is definitely getting better!

@soldiers303

6 жыл бұрын

Have never bought expensive brands and never had any issues. Can easily go round a bend at 45mph on £50 tyres. Most of the time is not the tyres that are the problem but the people who are driving the car.

@matt4239

5 жыл бұрын

Alex2900 100%, I personally buy in middle of the market and sometimes budget and I think some of these tyre snobs that only buy premier brands would have heart attacks if they realised just how many cars are driving about behind them on the motorway on illegal or close to illegal bald tyres.

@neovenom9833

5 жыл бұрын

@@soldiers303 depends on your car, if you are driving on 15" then it sounds reasonable. as a price. But there are people out there who spend about as much on a 20" tyre. let that sink in.

@felixsameli-joynt8072

5 жыл бұрын

Or you can just learn to drive to the conditions, and your car’s capabilities..

One of the few times where being a "brand snob" could be justified. Michelin, Pirelli, Continental, Bridgestone, Goodyear etc. are famous names for tires for a very good reason. They have the technologies, tread patterns, rubber compounds & engineering to make even a simple 'everyday' tire significantly better than some no-name brand tire.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

+Trades46 well put :)

@RennieAsh

6 жыл бұрын

They also make vertical tile adhesive mixture

@Trades46

6 жыл бұрын

Peter L Dunlop passenger car tires are safe and reputable, but prior experience with them has been less than stellar.

@JonnyD3ath

6 жыл бұрын

But don't just go by brand as alot of people do in my experience. You can pay £60 for one Goodyear and £180 for another the same size but they are worlds appart!

@Trades46

6 жыл бұрын

Critical Thinker then have fun ending up in wrapped around a tree cheapskate. On the 2nd thought, please take the bus least you ruin someone else's car or god forbid their life.

Just changed from from Conti Premium Contact 2 to a Michelin Primacy 4 on a 07 Mercedes 180k and the difference is amazing. Much better even when driven hard. The upgrade is huge, it's quieter, softer over the bumps and has way more grip in every situation and I have really pushed it. I have Michelin Pilot Sport 4 on my Volvo C30 T5 and they are mind blowing. I had the previous PS3 before that. The only brand of tire I will go for now is Michelin, even the budget XM2 Energy on my 95 Opel Astra are incredible. I have had Sport Contacts 1, 2 and 3, Dunlop, Goodyear, etc. Nothing compares to Michelin in performance and safety. They are 15% more expensive but they last 30% longer in milage and I have noticed a better fuel consumption. My only regret with Michelin is a not knowing sooner. I won't touch anything else but if I had to it would be: Michelin Continental Goodyear Riding my bicycle Walking

this video pretty much sum it up me every time it rains when im driving my 350z it came with budget tyre cant wait to get some Continentals

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Let me know how you get on with the new tyres :)

Subscribed! Thank you for your Channel mate. You are fortunate enough to have access to an amazing track near you and making these video's available to us is priceless, thank you again. Sub well deserved

@tyrereviews

5 жыл бұрын

Appreciated, thank you :)

Never though I will say this, but it can be very bad with bad tires. I am still sure we humans are very subjective so I do not believe what people say most of the time while driving their Golfs, Fiestas and Megans, but objectively some cheap tires can make a car feel so squishy and wobbly, squirmy and gummy bears like, even if they have reasonably amount of grip. The worst thing about it is that you can not know how the tires feel subjectively by looking at them as many tires can feel bad subjectively no matter the price, but having you and your reviews makes things so much easier. Thanks. 😃👍

Thanks for the upload, as I always find your reviews and articles extremely interesting. How did the two tyres hold up in terms of wear from the punishment of the testing, as the Contis are quite notorious for wearing down quickly. Also, you're a pretty capable driver. Do you race at all? I'm interested as to where you learned your trade.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Dennis Kwok thank you! The Sport Contact 6 improves wear over the 5P. It took the abuse much better than the budget which tore apart quite badly. Sadly don't have the money to race at the moment, but have been fairly competitive when I have. I'm pretty sure I learnt to drive on Gran Turismo...

just bought the RU01 s pace for my BMW E91 325D with 350hp 700nm. 235/35 R19. 275/30 R19. no complaints so far

@Pinyoo81

4 жыл бұрын

I hope you don't have to try emergency braking on wet, you might be disappointed with them...

@xander3425

4 жыл бұрын

Still fine? Maybe I will also get these for my Juke 190hp

Just found your videos. LIke the style, and as performance user on motorcycles and autos, I swear by best tires you can find, its your LIFE.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

THank you :) And good choice on tyres!

March 2018 This was a very informative video .Does nt have to be a work of art in editing.The information is the pearl. Thank you

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you..

Just bought a 2015 Lexus IS 350 F-Sport last week. Currently has 225/40/18 (Fronts) and 255/35/18 (Rears), with Continental DW06’s. Swapping those out for 255/35/18 (Fronts) and 275/35/18 (Rears), with Michelin Pilot 4’s. Sooo excited to experience the difference! I get that this was a budget vs premium tire video, but I just wanted to share. Love the content.

@tyrereviews

3 жыл бұрын

Let me know how you get on!

@willcrenshaw2380

3 жыл бұрын

Tyre Reviews Will do.

Neutral and predictable handling is very important for safety and also fun. The suspension setup plays a pretty big role in this just as well as tires.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately on most cars it's a lot more complicated and expensive to change the suspension than it is buying good tyres :)

Amazing explanation, thanks a lot. You're the best!

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Another excellent review!

Absolutely correct 👍🏻🙌🏻 Makes NO difference between a Bimmer M3 or a basic KIA subcompact as rubber at all 4 corners r d object to make FIRST contact with roads. Strangely, I've seen people spending lots of dollars to upgrade their cars in terms of performance n looks but choose to use budget wide tires instead of proven brands. 4 decades ago, I already used Michelin on my used Jensen Healy convertible (doc with dual carbs) simply because my pal whom taught me how to 'properly' drive a stick shift (double clutch action) told me nothing counts more importantly than good tires on safe n performance driving 😎

@4:00 that was enough for me to get the point lol, the frustration was real!

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

+mas921 it wasn't fun!

Nice video ! I'd add that some recent high performance cars are developped with high performance tires, and yes you are free to use anything (depends if the size is still homologated for your car, insurance wise blablabla) but with very complex chassis and everything tires are the only thing touching the road, and even the dealer can't sell you anything. Modern cars tends to be very demanding with tires, because of the weight and the complexity of the chassis. It also depends on what you do with your car, my 325 e30 is slighty optimised in the chassis, and I've bought 4 new potenza re002, nice and sticky, it's a joy to drive, nice, safe, sharp and it's a dream, you can really trust the car even in the rain. My 525e e28, is old, worn bushings at the moment until I can fix that, auto tranny, I've bought 2 nexen because the car is slow, I go to work from time to time, she cruises low and slow so it didn't need really good and expensive rubber,budget tires when they are new are not that bad for a second car. Last thing are drivers, I drive old stuff so I'm used to the feeling, less grip, I don't rely on driving aids cause I don't have any, so I'm more focused when it rains, I'm not an idiot with my old 5 and I just drive carrefully, people today rely a lot on driving aids, they make cars safer for sure, but when their kids buy older cars, with cheap tires, kids forget that it's not mom's and dad's 2017 connected shoe box, so I think it's important to educate people on what they are buying and doing, to suit their needs, their budget and their safety too :)

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

+Frozen Pete great post :)

I bought a used Porsche 944S years ago and when it came time to replace the tires I went with a set of Yokohama A008Ps, instead of replacing the cheap tires that were on the car with another cheap set. With the new tires, I had a four-wheel alignment done to a mild competition setup with slightly more negative wheel camber. The difference in handling was a vast improvement, even with my inexpert driving skills. By tweaking the tire pressures and rotating at 5K mile intervals, I was able to get perfectly even treadwear across the tires and get well over 32K miles on them. This was far more than what everybody in the tire shops and Porsche community said I would get and the tires were still perfectly driveable on dry roads with no tread, I just had to be alert and careful to water that might have runoff on the road. The only reason that I replaced the tires was that my wife threw a fit and insisted that I get new tires🙄 The actual total cost of owning those more expensive tires was really not much more than it would have cost if I had gone with cheap tires. The replacement tires that I got on the car were somewhat cheaper Dunlop D-40 M2s and while they weren't bad tires they were nowhere nearly as good as the Yokohamas.

You can just never go cheap on tyres. Coming from a country where monsoon rain is very common. A lot of budget tyres do quite well in the dry. But in a light, skinny tyred car, cheap ones will just NOT grip at all. That feeling of stress not knowing when is the car going to snap is just terrible. Just swapped the Silverstones out for Michelins and boy do they transform the car!

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Very sensible :)

@ryanjonathanmartin3933

Жыл бұрын

Ohhh Silverstone? You're Malaysian! I agree man Silverstone tyres aren't good at all. It's a local brand... but doesn't matter if it's bad. We didn't even bother with them on our Myvi we just went straight for Bridgestone Ecopias.

Depends on your financials. You can change your tyres twice as often on the budgets. A bald premium tyre is going to lose against a new budget tyre.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Poor reasoning. A premium tyre might last twice as long as a budget, and while a bald premium will be worse than a new budget in aquaplaning performance, there's a good chance it will still be better at regular wet and dry braking.

@MichaelSeeds

6 жыл бұрын

Do the test. I think you'd be wrong. You can't have it all. The softer the compound = more grip and the faster your tyre will wear. Yes you can get premium branded low rolling resistance tyres that will last a long time, but high grip premium tyres do not last as long e.g MICHELIN Cup 2's

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Google "Should we change tyres at 3mm? Michelin say no", and the first result should be a link with data from tests where new budget tyres are out performed by worn mid range tyres.

I’m late to the party on this video but great content and delivery as always. Would’ve been good to see a mid range set of tyres tested along with the higher end versus budget to give each buyer/user a good idea. Great stuff as always. 👍🏼

@tyrereviews

5 жыл бұрын

That should happen next year :)

@AntonioHernandez-ml5mz

5 жыл бұрын

Tyre Reviews Brilliant, look forward to seeing that.

I used to run (slightly) cheap tires on a z06 corvette for practice autocross days. saves thousands of dollars. Yes much slower but it wasn’t out of control or anything. good times

Braking test without mentioning the speed was a bit pointless. If you brake from ie 120mph, the difference must be huge.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Fair point, sorry. The braking was from 110 kph / 68 mph.

@richardlundell

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe its just me, i did only see the budget rotalla tire in this wet braking test?

Couldn't agree more.. I brought budget chinese tyres unipass 235/40/18 for $340 for my mitsubishi evo6 TME road wheels and they are absolutely scary in the wet. They tramline, aquaplain and change lanes by themselves like crazy and in 100km/ph zones I get overtaken by grandma's in grocery getters. Whereas my rx7 with Bridgestone 245-275/30/20, s15 silvia with stretched dunlop 235/35-245/40/19, galant vr4 with toyo 215/35/18 and holden ss with pirelli 245/40/18 all feel more sure footed and confidence inspiring in all conditions. My evo should be the best in all conditions being awd but is by far the worst. I tend to think my semi's may fare better in the wet but am unwilling to try lol

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

semi slicks will certainly give you more aquaplaning issues with standing water. You've got enough power, go and destroy the budgets on a (dry) track day and get some proper tyres on :)

@jeffa4822

3 жыл бұрын

you have a evo and you put budget tires man????? hahahahaha so stupid!!!

@darianistead2239

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffa4822 Only bought them to pass roadworthy check. Didn't want to spend lots on temporary tyres

I subscribe because I appreciate your honesty & impartiality. Thank you for your reviews 👍

@tyrereviews

4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

I do have a question? What will you put on a BMW series 3 sedan E90 2011 320D RW between Goodyear efficient grip 205/55/R16 W and Michelin primacy 205/55/R16 V. Summer tires run flat. Thanks

Great review. Not sure why someone would put crappy tires an an AMG anything lol. Fun to watch.

@TheWhiskeyMan-rk7qv

4 жыл бұрын

If you can afford to own a V8 AMG Mercedes, then buying decent tyres shouldn't be a problem. I doubt that premium tyres would make any difference on something like a 1.4 Corsa though.

@multiblade04

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheWhiskeyMan-rk7qv went from Michelin To cheap Chinese on my c63 for purpose of burnout only. Barely a difference. Feels the same. 1/5 the cost

Hi! Love the videos, great knowledge. I have a question I would hope you could answer. What road legal tyre should I fit on the 2017 Focus Rs for daily driving but with the purpose of gravel/dirt rally? Thanks

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid this is a little out of my comfort zone. Dmack make good rally tyres, though I'm not sure they're road legal. If you find some let me know!

@icedan9895

7 жыл бұрын

Tyre Reviews thanks for your reply! I went on gravel with the supersports on and it seems like the gravel eats the tyre real fast. Any tips on perhaps a tyre that would wear a lot less on gravel?

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Outside of dedicated rally tyres for cars, or a crossover ATR 4x4 tyre, I'm not sure there will be many road car tyres which will handle gravel with ease

Even with tyres in the same price bracket there can be a big difference, my meagre old MG Metro had a choice of Michelin or Dunlop back in the day, the Michelins were decent in the dry but shockingly bad in the wet, whereas the Dunlops were brilliant all round, grippy enough to get the car up on 2 wheels and easily retain control (not something I recommend on public roads !!!), there was only about £4 price difference between the 2. The Metro wasn't an especially quick car but it was still dangerous in the wet on poor tyres. These days with my hot hatches I stick with Michelin Pilot Sport, they're brilliant

Guys I love your videos! I'm really curious about this same comparison but with light truck tires, there's a lot of cheap all terrains out there, that would be a great video!

@tyrereviews

5 жыл бұрын

I'm working on SUV stuff for next year :)

@ingenieriasdwight9585

5 жыл бұрын

Tyre Reviews that's awesome! Great channel man!

Nobody in there right mind would put budget tyres on a car like that???? Why didn't you use a normal everyday car?

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

johnysreef not sure where you're from, but in the UK there's so many cars like this (it's a 2012 model) on cheap tyres!

@biddiblack1

7 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah i forgot, everyone has a v8 merc to fall back on, and everyone drifting around on there way to the shops.....

@zstation64

7 жыл бұрын

People who buy that sort of car on 60 easy payments, and then discover they have £30 a month left to feed themselves and put tyres on the car when they wear in to a hole. So Hoofung Slipomatics or the classic LingLong Ditchfinder it is, because the guy in the tyre place says he drives at 200mph in his Subaru on them, and he must know, right? Or as is VERY common, someone buys that sort of car off a dealer, and the dealer has put the cheapest s**te he can find on, just so he can say "new tyres mate" to the clueless punter who turns up of a Saturday morning to look at the car. Source: bought a Lancer that the dealer had put Kingstar tyres on, nearly put it over the first roundabout I came to at 30mph in the wet.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Andy D perfectly worded!

@ferrumignis

6 жыл бұрын

Cevair Zufe Exactly! People seem to think that shitty budget tyres are fine on a lower powered car, but you still generate the same kind of braking or steering forces in an emergency situation.

Yep , they're very different ... But do you have to push it in the wet at each and every corner on public roads ?

@cameronriccio6050

3 жыл бұрын

in an emergency maneuver? Yes

Thanks, The other thing to consider is how long do both tyres last, probably find the budget tyres might not last as long as the premium tyres so may even work out more.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

The budgets were certainly wearing faster (and tearing from the drifting) but I don't think you would make up the price difference between the two sets.

Four tiny points of contact with the road,buy the best you can afford it may be the difference between getting home safely,getting home via an ambulance/hospital or not getting home ever again.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly :)

Tyres are the most important of an car (In my option). As there in direct contact with the road

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

qrogueuk yes they are, though they're so often overlooked!

@hivzijabuzaljko964

5 жыл бұрын

Why does this comment has only 15 likes

@lauriepowell6819

5 жыл бұрын

try driving without brake pads and tell me tyres are still the most important thing on a car. Tyres are a big con. I've had Avon tyres for years and never had an issue

@johnennis4586

5 жыл бұрын

I think the engine is more important

@londontrucker6804

5 жыл бұрын

@@lauriepowell6819 I am driving on budget tyres from National, and I had Nokians before. I think a set of brand new budget tyre is better than a set of half worn premium.

In science and engineering courses, 5% is the difference between an acceptable and an unacceptable test statistic. So the results of these tires in this video makes sense.

Thanks for the confirmation ^^ My trip to the 'ring with an S2K on poor tires made the whole experience awful… the "recommended" rubbers were just bad, really bad… they made the car snappy, upset the balance in the rain, etc. The 'ring being notorious on rainy days… made me almost regret my trip. So, all in all, your video was completely on point :)

@tyrereviews

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

@gyo1381

5 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews , my pleasure ^^ Your reviewing style, driving ability, and logical presentation of empirical information make for great content. Subscribed :)

I have a question and you can help me. a wider tire is better for rain / aquaplaning or thinner tires.

Few people understand this concept: Brakes stop the wheels, Tyres stop the car! My Ford Escape comes with premium continental contisport contact and guess what my next tyre will be? The same. They are amazing tyres especially in the wet grip.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Great way of putting it :)

Awesome video man...I've successfully ruined my fiesta ST by putting cheap budget tires on it..I hate them every time I drive...its amazing how much tires really make a difference in overall driving pleasure...never again will I buy budget tires..

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

travis clarkin as least you understand where the problem is coming from and know how to fix it. I'd be very excited for your next tyre change! :)

@BensCoffeeRants

6 жыл бұрын

I tried bald (used) Chinese tires on My Fiesta ST couldn't tell much dif between them and the new Michelin Pilot Sport 3 A/S, the Chinese ones actually gripped really well, but wasn't too confident about how they'd hold up in wet or bad conditions.

@volodymyrzakolodyazhny7740

5 жыл бұрын

100%. Never.

@kwl189

5 жыл бұрын

I can relate. My ford fiesta 1.5tdci is absolutely awful in ride comfort with the two budget tyres I've put on the front. The handling is no where as nice as it was on conti 2 it came with. The grip in the wet worries me and coming into the winter it doesn't take a lot to get wheelspin or break traction and this is in a FWD 74|105 Bhp 270nm fiesta. So I can't wait for these tyres to wear out so I can get some better ones. Sure they're are more expensive but I'll get better economy, handling and comfort from them. An all round better experience imo.

@neovenom9833

5 жыл бұрын

@@kwl189 I have Michelin Alpine 5 on my ST200 in the winter. I can basically cruise up a roof parking lot with 10" of snow covering the road.

Can you do a video on best price/performance tyres?

For all those wondering about (relatively) low powered FrontWD vehicles. I recently purchased an Alfa Giulietta QV (235HP Manual - please...no mocking comments), on which the previous owner put $80 AUD (42 GBP) tyres to pass registration. I took it out once (and once only) on a wet and twisty B road equivalent. EVERY slightly fast corner was downright scary - I had to slow down for the tradie-vans to pass (embarrassing much). This is was no fun at all. Needless to say they were replaced with proper tyres (Eagle F1-Supersports) for $190 each (100 GBP) the following week. The difference is phenomenal - it's like a completely different car. That said I have purchased more expensive Chinese tyres (220 AUD / 110 GBP) in the past because I simply could not swallow the 600 AUD / 310 GBP asking price per corner for a P-Zero or PS4 SUV at the time and they were actually pretty damn good on a 350HP/800nM Q7 V8 Diesel, sure I might have mowed down the odd granny crossing the road due to slightly extended wet braking but hey ....there has to be some trade-off....right?

I liked the video. And I have to congratulate you for your effort. You do really good work on this channel. But, honestly, the person who chooses a budget tyres, would not have a powerful car. Meaning, the budget tyre would not be under so much stress, due to the amount of torque applied by the engine (and this C63 AMG has a lot of it), and not under the stress of those kinds of speeds and G-forces put it through (which increases heat). On my Peugeot 106 (~60hp 1.1L Petrol), I have used budget tires, as it does not have much power, low stopping power, and does not handle high cornering speeds. On my Renault Megane III Sportstour (110hp 1.5L Diesel), I have placed Michelin Primacy 4, as it will deal with more weight (which increases the stress under cornering), and will face more torque (not much, unfortunetly). Furthermore, the stopping capabilities are there, to take advantage of the more expensive tyre. I think this test should be done on a budget car. Like the Citroen C1, the Ford Fiesta, the Renault Megane, or the Peugeot 508. These are the budget segments people are more likely to purchase budget tyres. By using these cars, in my opinion, the weight, torque, and speed applied to the tyres would be more realistic.

Budget rear tyres on the C63 last 500km while the premium only 150. :D

Awesome content in all of your videos. I only have one request. Could you use around 200hp vehicles since high performance cars come with high performance tyres and the people who drive them with cheap tyres don't watch your videos anyways? Thanks mate!

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

I always try and use the most interesting and relevant (and fun) car for the test!

For the track day can we use 2 slick tyres on the front in a fwd car?

I used the cheapest chinese tyres for my bmw f30 for 2,5 years. After 50.000km it still had a lot of rubber on it. It would have lasted for 70.000km for sure. Never had an issue, did a lot of high speeding. Only on roundabouts i was carefull

@huseyincanoluz3290

5 жыл бұрын

Was it Rotalla Setula?

I had no idea tires made such a difference, ive been purchasing budget tires thinking they were good because they were new XD

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Tyres are the only thing between the car and the road, they can make a huge difference!

Solid,tasty to watch and listen, tech-based channel!!! Perhaps the best on the market. Its always a pleasure to follow you. Would you consider to test 20%-50%-80% worn tyres ? As eventually all tyres on cars are used worn.

@tyrereviews

3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to do some proper worn testing but it's super difficult (and expensive) to do properly!

Hey! I have been watching few of your videos and have a question: Have you tried these tyres and if you can compare them and tell me what you think: Hankook Ventus V2 concept 2 and Ventus S1 noble 2. The Ventus 2 Concept 2 are still on my car which came with them. Just want to find out which one to pick

@tyrereviews

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I've not tried them or seen much test data!

I still can't comprehend how people are willing to put their life and their family's life at risk just to save some money. Tyres are the only thing that keeps our car on the road, and yet some people still believe they are yet another annoying expense

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Plus people who spend £2,000 on expensive suspension upgrades only to put on the cheapest tyres!

BUT budget tires are not too bad the first two months or so, you should try 1 year old budget tyres vs premium (with normal thread ofc). Tried budget tires then bought Michelin pilot sport 4 (they are almost 3x more expensive) and I'm never ever again going for budget ones (225/40 R18)

@CroIntr00X

5 жыл бұрын

i don't think nobody mentioned tyre ranking properly, there's not only budget vs premium, there's cheap, decent, premium, ultra sport tyres...so comparing cheap to premium its a huge difference, comparing decent to premium not so much, and ultra sports are story for itself for proper car and purpouse driving

I drive Rotalla S-pace 225/40-18 on my Mercedes E270CDI w211. I just ordered a set of 245/45-17 in the same model. Looking forward to try them. I have tryes some other top brands before, and only my Hankook Ventus Prime 2 and Toyo Proces CF i was satisfied with. If I'm not satisfied with the Rotalla i just pull them of and buy some good winter tyres (Goodyear Ultra grip) and use the 17" as winter tyres my saving was ½ of a Hankook and ⅓ of a Continental

Driving an AMG on cheap tires is the same as having private jet but can't afford to fuel it ,all show nothing more ,same as most AMG drivers

Tyres are the only thing that touch the ground. Why even have decent car if you save on tyres?

@tyrereviews

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

5:03 RIP, hood cam (bonnet cam)

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

And foamy! :(

My rule of thumb is use the tyres for the car type. If it's a budget car put on budget tyres. If it's a sport's car use sport tyres. If it is a premium car use premium tyres. There's no point owning a 70K car and skipping on tyres to save 500.

I drive a Mercedes CLS320CDI when I bought my car it had budget tyres lets say with around 382ft lb of torque going through the rears in the wet was scary fronts aquaplaned badly the second I updated to Goodyear F1 asymmetric 3's oh boy what a difference yes bloody expensive tyres but really worth it.

what about noise level, fuel consumption and longevity?

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Erwt64 sadly we didn't have time to test this properly. The cheaper tyres certainly wore faster during the test, and the sure hardness of the rubber was much softer. Fuel consumption details can be found via the EU label scores for the tyres, as can drive by noise

@sonoffenix3399

5 жыл бұрын

*Shore* hardness. Could you elaborate on 'much softer', seeing as car tyre rubbers are in the region of 70 Shore A? Much softer implies a substantial difference, and the A scale doesn't capture that well - an example being the rubber used for door seals is only 10 points lower, and there's no way on earth even a budget tyre rubber is even close to that soft.

What is the whole purpose of this test? If I wanted to drift a car I would buy drifting tyres more over, rear wheel drive high performance cars are all vulnerable in wet conditions and cannot be driven hard unless one fits 100 percent wet tyres anyway and if I wanted to drive the car on the track I would fit track tyres anyway so not sure what the whole purpose of this test. If you drive an AMG and worried about saving 250£ on tyres you cannot afford the car period.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Your final sentence might be correct and good logic, but sadly definitely isn't the case in the UK. All tyre testing pushes the tyres to, and past the limit, otherwise it wouldn't be testing the tyres, merely a pleasant drive around a track. The purpose of testing at the limit is to highlight both where the limit is, and how the car will behave at the limit, which applies to when you need your tyres the most, during emergency situations. The drifting was for show, no tyre test genuinely judges a tyre on its ability to drift, however how the car is balanced is an important factor.

where have you guys been?!? I'm subbed =)

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

You really are prince charming :)

Good information

The problem with most people is all they know about tires (sorry , I'm American) is R,R,and R! Round ,Rubber , and Rolls! On my '99 Hyundai Accent I have economy tires. But being small and 18 years old there's not much car to support and it's primarily used for to and from work. However, on my '13 Hyundai Sonata (i45 in Europe) that I use for business I have top of the line Michelins! It never ceases to amaze me how many Mercedes and BMWs I see with China cheapie tires!

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

More tyre eduction is the reason Tyre Reviews was set up in the first place, it's scary how little people know about the subject!

@TrueBlueEG8

6 жыл бұрын

Didn't Toyo have a tyre called triple r?

Since im poor and cant even afford budget tires, do a video on which material works best to make homemade tires.

@tyrereviews

5 жыл бұрын

😂

@nugginusslover476

3 жыл бұрын

Just cut the thread deeper 😂

I bought a car that came with cheap tires and tbh its been great, my last car had yokohamas on and i can’t tell the difference, i used to live in louisiana where it pours rain literally everyday, then i move to Arizona i drove 24 hours without any issue at all, I guess when it comes to agresive driving yes it matters, but if you drive normally you shouldn’t have any issue at all, (braking its great as well) i was surprised when i saw how much this tires worth i’m definitely buying another set whenever is necessary

When I was a young and unexperienced driver, in my 1984 fwd Opel Ascona 1,6l 85bhp (Vauxhall Cavalier) I was able to try som cheap Asian tyres, coming from somewhat worn out 'premium' tyre. It was HORRIBLE in the wet and completely surprised me. Since then I've ALWAYS checked tests and reviews and bought premium, focusing on wet braking and subjective 'handling feel'. I remember once I called around to ask for prices and one seller wanted me to buy a cheap variant, with the argument: "It's only in extreme situations the premiums would be better".... (sigh). Doesn't matter if you have a Yaris or a 911, the tyres are the only thing connecting you to the ground.

dude nobody is going to be drifting on the way to work

@mooeminou

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@MuhammadOmer_Arifeen

Жыл бұрын

I do 😂 and it feels good to start your day by burning tyres in a controlled environment

@sammyg805

Жыл бұрын

@@MuhammadOmer_Arifeen controlled environment.. oh which route is that to work .. circuit ? 😂

@Mattlawton-ft6ew

11 ай бұрын

Tyres are one thing you dont want to cheap out on.

@ya.boi.v

6 ай бұрын

Guilty

I'd like to see some scientific numbers and comparisons. Otherwise, great video!

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Numbers for subjective differences are quite hard to explain, but it's something I'll work on for next time :)

@isbemorph

6 жыл бұрын

or at least the driver should enter the car not knowing the type of the tires, and then score how they perform, doing several tests in a row with different price level tires but similar pattern.

Great video man! Added Traditional Chinese sub.

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

I usually put dirt cheap budget tyres on rearaxle for my rear wheel drive cars because no matter what quality or brand they will wear out in almost one season :D in street use at normal speeds there are actually really good budget tyres for normal 140-250bhp cars.

@gamesmaster1060

Жыл бұрын

250bhp normal -_-

did you test using premium on the front and the budget at the back and vice versa... Because I have never seen that test on youtube

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Had there been more time we planned to, sadly a day of testing got rained off :( Maybe next time!

Saving a 200-300 euros/dollars/pounds what ever is nothing when you crash and possibly die because of it. Probably not the the smartest move to buy the best and most expensive set for a daily drive, but at least, buy something decent. Not all about the safety but also the tire noise, worse fuel consumption and comfort (less grippy and harder rubber).

Hi Bro , I increased my tyres aspect ratio from 175/65 ,R14 to 175/70 ,R14. The new tyres are Yokohama Earth1. They look solid and cool , i guess I noticed improvement in acceleration. Have you done testing on increased aspect ratio only??

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

We have a wheel size video (check channel), you should actually notice a decrease in acceleration as the rolling radius is higher, which makes your overall gearing longer, so acceleration slower and the speedo will be slightly out.

When looking frame by frame you will also notice the shots are not all in one go. Most notable the wet braking test. If you pay attention during the slowmo parts you'll see the "dummy" land about 3 different ways.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Sadly we didn't have enough cameras to capture it from every angle in one run, so we repeated the test 3 times. It's a fairly common setup when filming.

I tell people that cheap tyres will work ok for normal driving. But when it comes to an emergency manoeuvres that's when it's safer having better tyres. Spend the money, just incase

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Very well put!

@soldiers303

6 жыл бұрын

g4rr377 if you scan the road ahead you'll very rarely need emergency maneuvers.

OK and now on a car that someones is actually likely to put budgets on?

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

You'd be surprised and worried with cars like this in UK car parks!

loved that in the wet brake test when hitting the foam that one of the blocks came down on the side view mirror. it moved the mirror quite a bit and i am quite sure it is partially broken if not severly broken as it moved the mirror forward (even if this mirror could move it would be to fold in ) so if it cant move like my car then it cracked the panel and could cost $200-$1500 to fix that

@tyrereviews

5 жыл бұрын

The mirror was fine. On one of the runs the go pro got knocked into the bonnet and caused damage :(

@philiplubduck6107

5 жыл бұрын

That mirror is quite strong, glad to see you keep up with the comments. Your videos helped convince me to get summer and winters tire sets. keep up the great work.

I have a Camaro SS, so V8, rear wheel drive and plenty of power. For daily driving, I'm going to be buying some Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's because they're quiet, they grip, they stop and they turn. It's extremely important even just driving on the road at normal speeds. I'm going to buy a rear set of the cheapest tires I can find to go to a drift track, the fronts are keeping the Pireli PZero's until they're toast for the track and when they die, I'll use the Firehawk's on front for the track. I want the rear to slide and I'm going to destroy what ever is on back. I'd love to know Tyre Reviews opinion of using premiums on front and budget on rear for drifting? I'm guessing it'll be a good time! lol

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

In the wet it can be very drifty for sure, I've done the test a few times and it's always good fun :)

Moral of the story, get the best tires you can afford. It is the only thing that connects the car to the road. Shit tires massively affect the handling characteristics of a car. However, if you have a shit car then obviously you are poor and none of this matters and you should just buy some nangkangs.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Nankangs are actually fairly good economy tyres now! There's certainly much worse out of China...

@oaka5639

6 жыл бұрын

Well put together

@MrJakeyyy

6 жыл бұрын

I had nangkangs, can’t remember which tyre to be specific. Let’s just say they basically didn’t work in the wet. My car had less than 100 horsepower and it would spin for days when it rained. Although it was quite torque’y

@azaboy2

5 жыл бұрын

Boo Baa bullshit I had some all season Nankangs £66 per corner and in the wet they were really good. Hardly wheelspinned (170bhp / 270lbft) and were good for 130mph+

@jaydunbar7538

5 жыл бұрын

@@azaboy2 so you purchased one design and had a certain experience that automatically makes the other person's experience invalid? Or is it maybe more likely that you purchased different designs?

How about premium on the front, and budget on the rear? I would expect less understeer and more oversteer. Sounds fun.

@stenyak

3 жыл бұрын

That's my choice of tires normally, it's the cheapest way to have really fun (if maybe a bit dangerous), car behaviour. Specially if the engine is not all that powerful. Just be ultra careful on the wet!

Just subbed via the PH thread. Like it Jon 👌

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Feedback super appreciated, thank you :)

@roystinho

7 жыл бұрын

Tyre Reviews good presenter and sweet skills, looking forward to seeing what else is coming 👍

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

Hopefully quite a good video next tuesday if I ever finish editing it! :)

Good guy foam block. It closes your mirror when crashing but then is nice enough to reopen it XD

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

Foamy was the real MVP

Budget are fine for going back and forth to work we don't all drift to work every day

@simeonscott4224

5 жыл бұрын

until you need to emergency stop on the way to work and need that extra few meters in reduced stopping distance

@stevenjr6582

5 жыл бұрын

@@simeonscott4224 well drive slower!

@simeonscott4224

5 жыл бұрын

@@stevenjr6582 aye I'll just drive at 20mph on the motorway then shall I!? Get back in your shed you fucking plantpot

@gafrancisco

5 жыл бұрын

moron... this is a bunch of crap ... you loose 5% 10% ... because of harder tyres ...the stopping distance is not what they say ...

@felixsameli-joynt8072

5 жыл бұрын

Simeon Scott nah mate definitely fork out on the premium tyres so you can drive everywhere 4 inches behind the car in front, great plan aye! If you can’t drive to the capabilities of your car get the hell off the roads!

Good video but not a fair match. Budget B’s versus premium A’s. You should try budget A vs Premium A

@Kittonkitkat

3 жыл бұрын

Are there budget A's? Lol!

Surely it depends on what type of car you drive and how you drive it whether budget tyres are suitable? I have an old seat Alhambra, I rarely go over 70mph, don't throw it round corners . I put on budget tyres which are B-B rated and seem pretty good for my driving style, they happily work at 60mph round country roads, and easily match the official MPG for mixed driving. The main trade off is durability, with

@tyrereviews

6 жыл бұрын

The usual counter argument to the "type of car / driving style" argument is in an emergency situation, your driving style doesn't matter, you are 100% relying on the grip the tyre can generate. RIP poor foamy.

I bought 2 new expensive tires and 2 new budget tires both same size but thread on the expensive one is like almost twice the thread on budget ones

I commute through Dover, UK. Occasionally that means going through large diesel spillages. Cheap tyres are like sponges, they soak it all up and don't grip properly until it's all worked out. One time I nearly crashed into an 11t truck because of this. We were both going the same speed (around 25) and both braked at the same time. I just slid and slid. NEVER AGAIN. Plus, so maybe you save £20 on a cheap tyre but it only goes for half the miles. It's just the worst kind of false economy. Plus they feel bad.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

That's not something I've ever tested or considered, but certainly interesting. Thanks!

The problem here is that you're driving an AMG. Who owns an AMG and puts cheap tires on it? What you should have done is use a car that people would most likely put cheap tires on. That would have been informative.

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

You'd be surprised, in the UK at least there's plenty of AMGs this age (2012) with cheap tyres on!

@OrdinaryJoe12

6 жыл бұрын

I would say its the driving style that is more important. If you are gonna drive like a prick then get good tyres

@neovenom9833

5 жыл бұрын

@@OrdinaryJoe12 except the one who drive like that are the ones who cheap out on tyres. and they are mostly the 2nd or 3rd owner of the car.

@robinrouwen4580

5 жыл бұрын

I own a small garage near Rotterdam (NL) specialist in oil for performance cars, over 50% of older (performance) cars with younger men with relative small financial means Will drive cheap cars. Because they Will trash them anyway. Unfortunately Some Will only learn the hard way I am afraid.

Great video as usual but I would like to add my own opinion based on experience. I have an e92 M3 BMW which was fitted with the Conti S6 at the front but budget Accelera tyres at the rear. These had 6mm tread on with no uneven wear. My driving experience was terrible at the rear of the car. In the wet it bordered on dangerous. Swapped the rears to Falken FK510 which are still not super premium (thanks Pneus on line) Car is transformed. Ride is a LOT better, traction vastly improved but most importantly the terrible high speed vibration from the rear has gone (the Acceleras were balanced) To summarise the negatives are greater than stated in the video and if you cannot afford super premium Falken are excellent.

@tyrereviews

5 жыл бұрын

I've just done a test with this exact fitment and it was lethal! Video soon

Is the wear significantly different between the two tires?

@tyrereviews

7 жыл бұрын

While we did no measured testing, the budget tyres certainly seemed to wear a lot worse. The sure hardness of the rubber was also much softer, which is probably how they perform relatively well for the measured tests, but wear badly.