There is a lot of people not understanding what was said (maintly due to the video's fault) so I'll give a little explanation. They are removing OLD and SMALL damns, which were EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN, and were MORE TROUBLE THAN IT'S WORTH.

@TheFuel89

Ай бұрын

This.

@arney444

Ай бұрын

Yes, thank you for clarification of this fact, which the most of the eager leftist radicals (who - as we all know - are all uneducated idiots) failed to understand. The video itself have the same propaganda of letfist ideas

@ghostsword6554

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@ShizukaPrince

Ай бұрын

Thank you, for providing the context so I don't need to watch the whole video

@flickeykrunchofficialYT

Ай бұрын

Thank you for explaining it clearer than the video

Those 3 little dams in Finland were inconsequential to flood control and electrical generation. Wise decision to remove them for the fish. Other dams throughout Europe have much more important missions as demonstrated by some deadly flooding.

@joaquimbarbosa896

Ай бұрын

I'm sure removing the 100yo dam in Norway was also a good decision

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

I heard something about salmon "pens". When I was born, salmon was a special luxury. Now it's like hamburger. And with that blessing we have to listen to greener-than-thou idiots who get pouty about raising fish in pens. "Hey tree huggers! Should we outlaw cattle raising and go back to hunting buffalo on horseback????"

@joaquimbarbosa896

Ай бұрын

@@hg2. You do understand dams don't affect jusr salmon?

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

@@joaquimbarbosa896 Am I going to get an effing lecture from no-real-job YOU about how I have to contribute slave labor to your stupid sense of "fish diversity"?

@brrebrresen1367

Ай бұрын

@@joaquimbarbosa896 it was a Hydro-power dam, but a very small one in Norwegian scale and it was built in a way that made maintenance a nightmare and it was not easily upgradable making it more costly to keep up to date than what it made in power. also it's in an area of Norway where power is cheaper than the rest making even less economical combined with having a lot of people that hates what is needed to make the modern world going and loves to go about that loudly but loves every bit what it gives.

Misleading intro to the video. Showing some of the largest, gargantuan dams in the Alps. Not a single one of them is being dismantled. The video only shows small weirs or small to medium river dams (even here not really big ones). None of the big dams of the Rhine or the Danube are being dismantled. Dismantling these megadams would ruin renewable energy endeavours and sabotage the relatively eco-friendly shipping lanes … the video is deceiving to the last minute. Not saying the renaturalising small rivers is a bad thing, but this is not what’s happening to the really big and important dams.

@TheFuel89

Ай бұрын

Pretty good observation, but it comes down to just using unfit footage for the story. Renaturalising the small rivers is in fact the point, as the power plants on those ones generate hardly anything worth mentioning, while for survival of migratory fish and the ecosystem as whole it is of utmost importance.

@hansmemling2311

Ай бұрын

you can report it for misinformation. I do that sometimes when it's about an area where I'm confident in my knowledge.

@cj.wijtmans

Ай бұрын

these small dams are still an ecological disaster. They are too small scale to produce net energy these days and they obstruct some habitats. Small rivers are still an abundance source of biodiversity, probably even more so than bigger rivers.

All dams have a lifetime, so it makes sense to remove them in a systemic way. Not all dams will be removed, but each one will be evaluated for various beneficial uses. PS - Appreciate how this video lays out the options.

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

It's all for those stupid salmon??? We have fish farms for those. Why can they just build a fish ladder?

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

I heard something about salmon "pens". When I was born, salmon was a special luxury. Now it's like hamburger. And with that blessing we have to listen to greener-than-thou idiots who get pouty about raising fish in pens. "Hey tree huggers! Should we outlaw cattle raising and go back to hunting buffalo on horseback????"

@thejollygreendragon8394

Ай бұрын

@@hg2. I think maybe, that 'those stupid salmon' may have a higher intellect

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

@@thejollygreendragon8394 Female? [This is the type of anamist/pagan/human-sacrifice religion I can't stand.]

@arielquelme

Ай бұрын

Leave it to the Beavers!

It won't be a revolution until we find a way to create abundant renewable power. Here in Sweden 35-45% of our electricity comes from hydro plants. Solar and wind can produce some energy but not enough and not with a stable enough output that works for industry.

@MercyPiePai

Ай бұрын

there is nuclear power. kzread.info/dash/bejne/npx8qsSgedyfmrg.html

@WeiglerGodoy

Ай бұрын

Nuclear…

@jonasfermefors

Ай бұрын

@@WeiglerGodoy I think we need nuclear energy for a long time, but building takes time and most countries should have started building new plants decades ago

@guerreiro943

Ай бұрын

Solar, wind, geothermal and nuclear are all good options.

@jonasfermefors

Ай бұрын

@@guerreiro943 The problem with solar and wind is that together they can't provide more than about half of the energy mix if the country has industry that requires precise power delivery.

Removing derelict dams sounds good to me but operational and useful ones? That is a much harder sell but perhaps we will learn how worth it it is now! Also yeah updating and improving dams with fish ladders is a good plan as well

@bertanelson8062

Ай бұрын

Fish ladders are areas where fish predators wait. They are not a very good option.

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

It's all for those stupid salmon??? We have fish farms for those. Why can they just build a fish ladder?

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

@@bertanelson8062 I heard something about salmon "pens". When I was born, salmon was a special luxury. Now it's like hamburger. And with that blessing we have to listen to greener-than-thou idiots who get pouty about raising fish in pens. "Hey tree huggers! Should we outlaw cattle raising and go back to hunting buffalo on horseback????"

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

@@bertanelson8062 As if bears don't stand in the water falls waiting to grab the fish as they jump?

@reapersmercy7283

Ай бұрын

@@bertanelson8062 Bears wait at the top of the falls the salmon would cross anyways, so are the ladders really that much worse?

We made a camping trip around the Olympic Peninsula one spring. Both the Elwha and the Glines Canyon dams were still in place at that time. The videos were fascinating. We haven't made another trip after the removals. Maybe soon.

@Andrew-df1dr

Ай бұрын

In Washington state, US?

@catherinespencer-mills1928

Ай бұрын

@@Andrew-df1dr Apologies, yes, Washington State. There are videos of the dam removals and subsequent recovery of fish, wildlife and vegetation.

@Andrew-df1dr

Ай бұрын

@@catherinespencer-mills1928 Fascinating. The Olympic Mountains a high on my list of places to visit of i ever come to your country.

europe has 150 000 dams... europe has 155 000 obsolete damn. flawless

@realcryptc

Ай бұрын

Source?

@illliiiiillliii6265

Ай бұрын

​@@realcryptcthis video

@Groaznic

Ай бұрын

The literature specifies 150K barriers in the water, including very small ones, but I guess it's too hard to make an accurate video for KZread nowadays.

@AwesomeAngryBiker

Ай бұрын

It's just another of the crap fact verse type channel with absolutely no effort

Europe wanting to speedrun deindustrialization.

@ninobrown4516

2 ай бұрын

europe want suicide

@user-xr4bo3ln6f

2 ай бұрын

Couldn't have said it better

@hape3862

2 ай бұрын

You haven't got a clue about Europe, have you?

@smallpeople172

2 ай бұрын

Bro didn’t watch the video, which explains why

@maxsk9074

Ай бұрын

​@@smallpeople172 he is not wrong, but (small) dams are not a very relevant part of that

When you mentioned Ukraine, i started to think about destruction of Nova-Kakhovka dam, which completely drained huge reservoir leaving only a small portion of Dnipro‘s stream. BTW, this demolition wasn’t made in an eco-friendly way and caused massive destruction.

0:32 is the Vajont reservoir. The mountain above it collapsed and sent a wall of water down the valley wiping out various villages on the 9th of October 1963. More tha 2000 people died. Since then is has been inactive.

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

It's all for those stupid salmon??? We have fish farms for those. Why can they just build a fish ladder?

@Braun30

Ай бұрын

@@hg2. they are, at least in Switzerland we are not tearing dams down.

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

@@Braun30 TG... so good to hear SOMEBODY in Europe still has some sanity.

@Braun30

Ай бұрын

@@hg2. actually a salmon "farm" is in a dam. They grow salmon in sweet water.

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

@@Braun30 I heard something about salmon "pens". When I was born, salmon was a special luxury. Now it's like hamburger. And with that blessing we have to listen to greener-than-thou idiots who get pouty about raising fish in pens. "Hey tree huggers! Should we outlaw cattle raising and go back to hunting buffalo on horseback????"

Dam it It sure was a great Dam video

@kamizumoku

Ай бұрын

You God dam right!

And they replaced the power generation with nothing

@erik_dk842

Ай бұрын

Windmills when there's no wind and solar panels at night.

@axelpersson8214

Ай бұрын

How much electricity was lost then you reckon? Huge gains opening up migration of species in and close to the river.

@uk82punkz

Ай бұрын

i guess finland replaced them with a nuclear plant?

@edoardobattaglia5157

Ай бұрын

Most are small dams 3-5 meters high located on secondary streams, the production of electricity is negligible

@Edwinbraun20

Ай бұрын

There’s no reason for power generation. Burn wood and cook fish. That’s what we did thousand years ago and we are very progressively moving backwards. It’s better to be simple part of harmonious nature rather than being exceptionally well off in dead desert.

"How (And Why) Europe Is Removing Its Dams" So they can re-discover why they built them in the first place.

Meanwhile in Romania, companies pump entire rivers thought pipes just for the renewable energy grants they get for the construction 😢

Keep up the good work people!

In Europe it costs $750,000. In US it costs $750,000,000.

@kamilerastene5275

Ай бұрын

size matters

I think the real pain is the operating cost is escalating…

It's great that the natural flow of rivers is being restored but what are the solutions regarding power generation? What I've heard is that dams contribute a great amount to a country's ability to produce green power. With so many dams being removed, doesn't that go against the transition to green power? I don't know if I'm right about this but from my understanding, you'd need a lot of wind turbines to be able to generate the same amount of power that you can get from hydro energy, depending on the size of the dam of course. Which power generation alternatives will Finland / Europe rely on to continue meeting power demands after the removal of so many dams?

I am concerned that many dams being removed will reduce hydroelectricity production. Which is more important, clean renewable hydropower or no electricity? Some day they might build a power plant of some type to replace the lost electrical power , but it will be years later, if ever. Don't forget these dams also provide drinking water and storm water storage. Some dams also allow for ships and barges to transport goods further inland. Fish ladders might be possible at some dams. There are dams that are no longer serving any purpose and are costly to repair or replace and should be removed. Each dam needs to be evaluated fully and not just because it's a man made structure.

@johnwolf2829

Ай бұрын

But that is exactly WHY they are doing it; to degrade and diminish humanity. Just watch for the RESULTS of this insane policy. Here the Klamath dams were removed, transforming the whole area into what is known as The River of Death. Toxic sediment did not go away, and it has eliminated the local ecology. The miniature dams shown here are just the begining; the goal is to make it impossible for rural folk to live outside the urban hive. This is a MALTHUSIAN offensive, and humanity itself is what they mean to reduce, grind-down and crush.

@junicohen7918

Ай бұрын

The poi t is to remove your electricity

@johnwolf2829

Ай бұрын

@@junicohen7918 Yes, can't have the peasants getting too prosperous, now can we? =/

@gopalrathod349

Ай бұрын

They are removed only old dams to save high maintenance cost only

@brianedwards7142

Ай бұрын

Dams have lifespans though and end up full of silt.

Was that a damn Dam revolution? *grabs his coat...*

I find this comment thread odd and I think it is getting spammed by bots. Almost every comment says the same thing in a similar kind of way and the vast majority of the usernames associated with the comments have exactly the same format... Fake but negative comments. Why?

@sandal_thong8631

Ай бұрын

Other videos I've watched have a lot of pro-dam removal comments. I'm pro-hydropower so am interested in keeping dams that provide a lot of low-carbon emission electricity. These seem too small to be relevant to that.

@MonochromeChromosome

Ай бұрын

Regarding the same format - was it just the basic YT nickname that everyone got several months ago, when YT did some unknown updates to our nicknames? I remember everyone getting this strange mess instead of personal nicknames, and most ppl since didnt bother changing those abominations

@kitten_processing_inc4415

Ай бұрын

@@MonochromeChromosome Yes you've got a point. I now see they've stuck a number on the end of my name too.

@Zzenosg

Ай бұрын

There are bots, look at braun30 he spams the same text ​@@kitten_processing_inc4415

@joaquimbarbosa896

Ай бұрын

Its full of bots, and that is clear in their responses

Outstanding, we are doing the same in the states.

@arney444

Ай бұрын

In the US the Utilities invested over $30 millions over the last 3 years to upgrade Hydro-Electrical plants. Don't "bla-bla-bla" about a topic, you have no knowledge about.

@Brian-cb4zh

7 күн бұрын

@@arney444 The US is in the process of removing thousands of obsolete dams. Many of which were used by mills and not hydro-electric plants. According to the non-profit advocacy organization American Rivers, 2,119 dams were removed in the United States between 1912 and 2023. The peak year was 2018, which saw 109 removals. Wikipedia offers a list of the dam removals.

Removing old uneconomical dams, some dams are being replaced with new ones! but also incorporating fish steps so wildlife isn't effected.

I live in France and had never heard of this The media never speaks of it

My only issue with this video is there is no comparisons in cost. You tell us how expensive removal is, but is that more than it cost to build it? For that matter tearing them down is difficult, but more difficult than building them?

@veen88

Ай бұрын

Building cost already recovered by producing enargy

@michaeldeierhoi4096

Ай бұрын

Concrete in dams naturally degrades over time which is one reason for dam removal and it was mentioned in the video. Better to remove a dam ahead of time as opposed to the dam collapsing and causing more serious problems.

@Temporal_Assassin

Ай бұрын

My point is merely What did it cost to build? They said is costs $XX to tear down, is that more or less than it cost to build? That is it. Not if it should be or not. Hell, I live in Alaska, near a Salmon breeding area. I get the damage that they do. All I asked for was the building cost folks.

Europe’s Energy Policy : Get rid of Coal, Get rid of Nuclear, Use lots of expensive compressed NG, Get rid of Hydroelectric. That is ASTRONOMICALLY STUPID

@BerndG.-bu5yc

Ай бұрын

If Europe had hoped that others will follow its example, that is delusional and a miscalculation, didn't Yanis Varoufakis recently said that, Mexican president told him that Europe is irrelevant ?

@Silvina46

Ай бұрын

Spot on! 👏

The Barnes Wallis method is the most efficient.

There must be a negative impact from removing these dams. They were built for a purpose so it would be interesting to know why those purposes are no longer valid.

@hugheaston7598

Ай бұрын

Electricty generation, flood control, water supply. We can look forward to ever higher energy and water bills, higher insurance costs to pay for all the flood claims, and more expe4nsive food, since these dams are often the source of water for agriculture.

@TheSonic10160

Ай бұрын

@@hugheaston7598Most dams that need removal are smaller, maybe generated a dozen KW of power, or were built to run water mills, make large basins for canal boats and feeding canal systems. I'd scarcely think anyone's going to remove something that's making hundreds of KW to MW's of electricity, particularly when stable dispatchable generation that a large hydro dam provides is increasingly valuable.

@Roybwatchin

Ай бұрын

I'm thinking the Hydro-Electric dams were built long before they had the technology for Nuclear Reactors all over Europe. So, at least those dams are likely not needed anymore, or at least, not as many. Not sure about all the smaller ones though?

@AugustKling

Ай бұрын

Valid is Agenda 2030. You have nothing!

@GrasshopperKelly

Ай бұрын

@@hugheaston7598 Many of those power generation dams haven't been in use in years some decades, one I know of in Czechia (that barely produced a few kW); over 100 years...

They should do that with the Aral Sea.

These ideas are far better than some ideas which has cost the USA billions.

If the salmons could survive for centuries after building the dam, they have already adapted thenselves for survival

@Silvina46

Ай бұрын

For eco warriers salmons are more important than people

@Brian-cb4zh

7 күн бұрын

Scientists estimate nearly 1400 genetically-isolated Pacific salmon populations once spawned from California to southern British Columbia. Due to dam building and other alterations of lakes and rivers, 406 or 29 percent of the salmon populations have become extinct in the last 240 years. Surviving salmon species are heading toward extinction unless changes are made. Besides the human consumption of salmon, there are many other species impacted by the loss of salmon. The salmon haven't and can't adapt to dams. They simply spawn less or go extinct.

Brilliant...Very informative

removing stored water turning up the price

Being from Spain, it is not a good idea to loose the dams we have as we are a country prone to droughts and i`m sure we are going to suffer the consequences of this mistake. But hey, at least the fish will be happier i guess

@wussrestbrook1200

Ай бұрын

Why is Europe so ideological braindead? Is it because you were successful for too long

@akmon3490

Ай бұрын

Debatable , how can you tell if a fish it's happy ? Are we supposed to just project human concepts or associate them with an animal. Just look at that fish face, it's so fishy , so unhappy like .

Europe, look for catastrophic flooding in your area soon!

You can look forward to water shortages. I suggest people invest in rainwater tanks

@junicohen7918

Ай бұрын

That's not going to be allowed

@edwardenglishonline

Ай бұрын

Imagine... Spain... the most desertic country in southern Europe, leading the destruction of irrigation dams by far (it's like the blind leading the way... like the illiterate telling everyone else how to think... like... the fact is, either KZread or this channel will pull my comment out or who-knows-what: You MUST agree to die of thirst to show your allegiance to Big & Stupid Brother). Destruction of dams = Utter nonsense in desertified countries like Spain. (The strange suicide of Europe).

what about a run of river power production system where a part of the total flow is directed in suc a way as to completely circumvent the natural water way. thi has been done in some places.

If they’re now not getting their power from hydro, possibly the cleanest way to produce electricity, where are they getting it from…?? Also, riddle me this… why are man made dams which flood areas creating new eco systems bad, but flooded areas, creating new eco systems, created by freshly imported beavers (UK), is the greatest idea since the invention of the wheel…??

Hope that doesn't bite them in the Ass when the warmer summers prevail?

You cant control people by buying up all the water rights if they have a lot of dams ...now can you

If they worried about the natural flow of rivers why not try to make an alternative path that allows the natural flow while still giving the power dams give from the water

Man can u imagine the look on the fishermans face who doesnt know they are doing this and the moment it finally bursts hes going for a bumpy ride

This is horrible. As an engineer and an avid outdoorsman/ fisherman I care and understand our environment. Please do the calculations. Hydroelectric is the cleanest most dense energy source we have available. We need to focus other engineering solutions for wildlife. Also consider, what other energy sources are replacing these powerplants. I've seen many fossil fuel plants take their place. Cui bono?

@joaquimbarbosa896

Ай бұрын

1-Its not the cleannest 2-They barely lost any eletrical power. An engineer can't understand that 100yo dams don't produce eletricity anymore? Most dams were beyond their usefull life or to small to producw relevant ammounts of power

@superlacrosseguy

Ай бұрын

@@joaquimbarbosa896 What is the cleanest?

@joaquimbarbosa896

Ай бұрын

@@superlacrosseguy nuclear

@superlacrosseguy

Ай бұрын

@@joaquimbarbosa896 I would do nuclear as 2nd choice. My only beef with nuclear is that it dumps a significant amount of thermal energy into our atmosphere via cooling towers or river systems in order to create the low pressure side of the turbine system. Hydroelectric does not add heat to our atmosphere or rivers to create power.

@joaquimbarbosa896

Ай бұрын

@@superlacrosseguy That barely makes a difference in the local atmosphere, it literally makes no difference in the global atmosphere. Also nuclear for one does not stop river flow...

In CA we urgently need to BUILD more dams!

@reapersmercy7283

Ай бұрын

CA? what does that mean?

@kchididdy

Ай бұрын

@@reapersmercy7283 the golden state

@stephenkatthagen8604

Ай бұрын

With a delusional mindset of California government and the increasing illegal immigrants adding to the population, California will be in drought soon enough.

@Mark-nc2nx

Ай бұрын

Water problems and telling it's because of "climate change" ........ But it's because of cloud seeding removing dams ect ............. Removing the carbon and the carbon is you Bill Gates.... 🐑💉🧬💀

@dr69296

Ай бұрын

That state has much bigger problems. 1.6 trillion dollars in debt. Who is going to pay for the dams.

i hve been contacting local councils about removing dams to improve fish stocks. We also have a video on our channel about it.

Devlet Su İşleri mentioned (DSİ)

If you remove the hydroelectric dams that are at the end of their life are you likewise replacing them with other hydroelectric dams elsewhere??? Because you’re obviously NOT replacing them at the same place. If not doesn’t that cut down on the energy production?? Especially since it’s a “green” source.

You have to ask yourself which ecosystem is more eco-friendly? A free flowing river or the reservoirs and straits from a controlled river? Then add the free energy into the equation.

So where is the drinking water and electricity going to come from?

Wait, hydro-electric dams have a limited lifetime? As a Québécois, I find this very, very concerning

@arney444

Ай бұрын

Don't listen to idiots and demagogues, (like your PM Souteneur Trudeau) and you would not have concerns. I am an electrical engineer, who worked on over a dozen of Hydro-Electrical plants upgrade in the US. Yes, or course the electrical and mechanical equipment has to be periodically replaced with new, but -so far - even a 100-years old dam concrete structures hold very well.

@Welv1987

Ай бұрын

@@arney444 the last thing I'd do is listen to Trudeau, he screwed us and future generations :(

@arney444

Ай бұрын

@@Welv1987 Thank you, you made up my day! Of course, we in the US must do our part and get rid of of that mentally deteriorated Joe

Nation can go for multiple stairs dam or second river for habitat concept but distortion is not a solution as we need more power , We can study how to build dams that are in much favour towards nature than old ones .

Some were built to control flooding not just power

the fact that they could dismantle a dam with just 750,000 euros is so shocking to me as an American where it would probably cost us 10 million for something as simple as that

@kamilerastene5275

Ай бұрын

How big of a dam are we talking?

@cj.wijtmans

Ай бұрын

they were small dams and there were volunteers.

@kamilerastene5275

28 күн бұрын

@@cj.wijtmans for the ones in Finland or US?

The rpg in my pocket: 🥰☺️

How is the loss of electricity replaced? It’s not going to be wind or sun as it can not generate that much electricity plus very unpredictable. Solutions needed before actions. Don’t make it up as you go

A lot these dams have way gone past their useful lives. It'll be easier to eventually just build a smaller number of larger dams in the future.

@joaquimbarbosa896

Ай бұрын

More ecological and more efficient

They gonna to burn coal instead ? 😅

@lol32scbw

Ай бұрын

They will cut forests and build huge fields of solar panels.

didn't England remove one for Germany about 80 years ago lol

What surprises me is anyone thinks dams are green in anyway, never mind the enormous amounts of petroleum to make them. Companies pay to build them? In Canada "government"/taxpayers pay to build them, pay to operate them and pay for hydroelectric from them, companies pay little except wages, nice wages and benefits too. What if electricity can be harvested from the aether?

What power sources replaced them? Hopefully wind, solar, or nuclear

..believe that the secret of power extraction from rivers is the ancient principle of never taking more than a tenth from Nature. In the case of the river this means a tenth at one time since it is flowing and when it rebuilds its speed through natural gravitation the power can be extracted again further downstream. It just needs a horizontal wheel situated within the stream with appropriate armature to direct the flow to point of maximum advantage and for a honeycomb arrangement to be fixed within the wheel (and within the armature) so that the weight of the fly-wheel is provided by the water itself and if necessary can be variably controlled…guess this has been done in history but know of no examples..

We in South Africa are still building them and adding hundreds of illegal ones to the many legal but unsustainable number. Would that people had any idea of the damage we have done and are still doing.

@BerndG.-bu5yc

Ай бұрын

That is a toxic ecoextremist view.

When you've mentioned Ukraine, for a moment I thought you were going to talk about Kakhovka dam.

is this an AI youtube channel? no one is actually making this

With Europe losing water in recent years due to global warming, this might end up not being very bright idea. Especially since desalination plants are expensive (i expect somebody proposing more desalination within next decade and it will turn into blooming business throughout Europe).

@ep5019

Ай бұрын

Our leaders are malevolent idiots.

Finland has a new nuclear reactor at 1200 MW.

Europe or norse countries?

I'm very ok with that... but.. how about the floods? They were controlled, somehow, by these dams. Will it not affect the localities that are on the course of the river?

@mukkaar

Ай бұрын

Many dams are not made to control floods. These kinds of small dams were built all over when we started electrifying for explicit purpose of electricity generation.

And people think we can all survive on wind and water power for enviorment x)

Priority should be given to unnused, or abandoned dams. Those are just useless, increasing evaporation and disrupting river flow

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

It's all for those stupid salmon??? We have fish farms for those. Why can they just build a fish ladder?

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

I heard something about salmon "pens". When I was born, salmon was a special luxury. Now it's like hamburger. And with that blessing we have to listen to greener-than-thou idiots who get pouty about raising fish in pens. "Hey tree huggers! Should we outlaw cattle raising and go back to hunting buffalo on horseback????"

@joaquimbarbosa896

Ай бұрын

@@hg2. A fish ladder does not work for the majority of species and for the species that it does work is still prety bad. And no, its not just for "stupid salmon" its for entire ecossystems. And farming fish does not make the tiver ecossystem better

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

@@joaquimbarbosa896 Please spare us your attempts to impose human sacrifices base on you eco/animist paganism based on superstition.

@joaquimbarbosa896

Ай бұрын

@@hg2. When did I try to make human sacrifices? Removing non working or small dams is a no brainner

I have often wondered if mining operations as well as the creation of dams would, even minutely, impact the earth’s wobble, with potentially catastrophic outcomes, as billions of tons of materials are collected in selected areas? Could these also potentially impact geological activity? I don’t have an answer, just asking the question to any erudite geology scholars out there. I have heard that the numerous pyramids around the world could have been constructed in specific locations to stabilise the earth’s wobble, but as far as I know that was only a theory. In any case, as we have seen in the past and recent years, dams can be potential targets for belligerent factions, the destruction of which could have massive potential to devastate huge areas and population centres. Possibly this is another reason they are dismantling some of these structures as the politicians seem hell bent on provoking wars.

So what about the lost of power generation and have there been issues with flooding that wasnt there before

@shakee960

Ай бұрын

lots of them were lost their usefullness and are obsolete so the power that was lost is almost none

Can engineers design those dam projects to be easy to dismantle or assembled.

@arney444

Ай бұрын

No. Absolutely technically unfeasible.

What about the people. look at what is happening.

They should have updated the dams and added in fish ladders for the salmon.

@florinadrian5174

2 ай бұрын

That makes much more sense. There is no hard choice dam or salmon, there are ways to reduce or eliminate the ecological impacts while still benefiting from the dams. I wonder if sometimes the obosolete dam owners don't stirr up public support into financing the removal for ecological pretexts instead of having to remove or maintain them themselves.

@andreastyrberg7556

2 ай бұрын

Dams without fish ladders should not exist.

@terra7066

Ай бұрын

In the map that he shows it says "removed barriers" , that's what is being done by creating canals and elevators for the fish , old dams have to be tared down because they are dangerous , every single country is building new dams and in the rivers that they are demolishing the old ones probably new , larger and more efficient will be built.

@florinadrian5174

Ай бұрын

@@terra7066 That's what I suspected, there was a safety reason for taking the dams down, not the fishies. And yes, the owners were very smart to get the tree-hugging public to pay for the demolitions. Nationalize costs and privatize profits.

@juliannyca1815

Ай бұрын

Fish ladders are just not as effective as complete removal of the obstacle. So if it's somehow possible, just remove the dam to restore former conditions.

Dam it

Africa was once a rain forest 🫢 Guess what really happend 😂

@cj.wijtmans

Ай бұрын

africans destroyed it?

Couldnt you just update them to generate more power?

Why removing it cost us again... Just keep the gates open....

These kinds of actions are exactly why people end up being wary of anything green friendly, ni matter how good the intentions are.

what about beavers dams...

1 meter tall structure is called a dam in Europe 😂😂😂

What is $6.2M in cost in the long term. It's absolutely nothing in the life of a dam in terms of the revenue "generated."

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

It's all for those stupid salmon??? We have fish farms for those. Why can they just build a fish ladder?

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

I heard something about salmon "pens". When I was born, salmon was a special luxury. Now it's like hamburger. And with that blessing we have to listen to greener-than-thou idiots who get pouty about raising fish in pens. "Hey tree huggers! Should we outlaw cattle raising and go back to hunting buffalo on horseback????"

The salmons have to find anotherplace

Is it to create an energy shortage? So the price of running the new nuclear plants will be profitable? Which it is not now if we compare it with the energy price from current hydropower ;)

@joaquimbarbosa896

Ай бұрын

Nuclear power plants are running profitably. One NPP had to reduce output once because almost all dams were full and demand in both Finland and neighbouring nations was to low. The removed dams are either way beyond their usefull life or way to small to make a difference in eletrical power. This barely makes a difference in the countries eletrical output. For the love of god, stop this stupidity

In terms of an ecosystem, dams, and even incorrectly designed bridges and culverts interrupt the movement of sediment downstream. This stalls one form of energy transfer. When rewinding, the ‘release’ of these stored energies (built up sediment) must be taken into account.

@pabf2745

Ай бұрын

Dam replentish underground waters, and avoid nutriets to spill at first use into the see, letting to recycle them, and fish pass allow the fish to move freely, EVEN, in small hydropower as the archimedean screw, those are used as FISH LIFTERS in fish farms, AND as oxygenation for water cleaning in sewage water treatments, too lazy lo learn?

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@c0d3warrior

Ай бұрын

Oh, there's a whole movement behind that bs? Who would've guessed... 🙈

@Groaznic

Ай бұрын

How is this a great video? It's purely one-sided like some sort of anti dam extremism, not showing any rational discourse around dams, just cheering at their destruction for refutable reasons.

Major dams????? these are all small ones wth are you talking about

Green energy doesn't hurt the environment

Are the waters in rivers with dams really more dead than in "natural" rivers? I think that the ecosystem adapts to the new rythm of waterflows. And I am not a racist when it comes to discriminating against life that thrives thanks to dams.

@pedromoura1446

Ай бұрын

yes. it has to do with the water height. lakes are not common because water tends to "want" to run to lower altitudes and ends up destroying the sides of a lake through erosion over hundreds if not thousands or millions of years. and when they're natural most of the water in them flows underground. dams pretty much stop the water in an artificial lake made on a river, which if it is there it's probably because there's some material preventing the infiltration of all that water (not all of it mind you). This means we're accumulating water and organic matter in a place were naturally it would not occur as the amount of water flowing would clear them up. this is how swamps are made btw...a river flows into a field or a blockage makes it inundate the surrounding area turning the place into a swamp thus stopping the water and accumulating organic matter which incentivizes the growth of anaerobic bacteria and even makes those nice naturally formed methane reservoirs which then bubble up and you can see videos of people igniting for fun.

@bjorntorlarsson

Ай бұрын

@@pedromoura1446 But is there LESS life in artificial water reservoires? Or is there just DIFFERENT life in them? Is there any objective measure of how that change of one perfectly inhabitable environment to another perfectly inhabitble environment "is bad"? In Scandinavia, forest areas that are industrially clear-cut have much greater ecological diversity than the natural hegemonic pine forest that monotonically covers 95% of the place. Could it be that dynamic human interaction with the environment can actually stiulate its diversity? CO2 additions to the atmosphere certainly stimulates all kinds of life on the entire planet. Especially in the Arctic and in the deserts. So hydroelectric power plants might be bad in the sense that they compete with accelerated CO2 emissions, I could give you that!

@pedromoura1446

Ай бұрын

@@bjorntorlarsson on your first question. It depends on how the lake is formed and maintained but generally speaking it's worse because you need to compensate for the damage you caused. You need fish ladders to maintain the current habitats and even then a dam is a barrier preventing local aquatic species from moving around, you need machinery to constantly remove the sediments from the bottom and place them over the dam to prevent problems like bridges falling or beach erosion, invasive water species accumulate in these reservoirs which you then need to remove and eliminate least they spread, all the organic matter from wateaver was in that area is now being slowly decomposing in anaerobic conditions, etc. But you're also right, It's a different environment, not necessarily a worst or better one. that's a human evaluation of the current local fauna and flora because we know that we can make very rapid changed that most species cannot adapt to. and yes. There is a method to measure that :) it's measured in biodiversity. Generally speaking if something man made increased the number of species in a place without putting a strain in another species. for instance... Imagine you eliminate mosquitoes in a place but your work added 1 or 2 other species of animal to the location, mosquitoes are considered common enough that it wont affect their population and 2 other species moving in means you succeeded in increasing biodiversity of the location. This is a generalization ofc since usually biodiversity increase means you created the conditions for species that feed and control the less desirable or more common ones to move in, you do not eliminate them. The opposite is also true... By knowing we reduced the amount of species in a location we know we did something wrong and we need to repair or at least minimize the damage. I hope this also clears your second question.

@pedromoura1446

Ай бұрын

@@bjorntorlarsson on your 3rd point... Unfortunately no... Co2 is to plants what sugar is to humans. We use sugar as the most basic energy form to feed our cells but you're only healthy because you have a balanced diet. If someone came and force fed you sugar assuming that because your cells use it then more of it would surely be good then you'd probably fall ill and eventually die. Plants react pretty much the same way to co2 (I can go into more detail about the mechanism by which plants consume co2 and why too much is bad for them if you want but I believe there's some youtube videos by veritaseum or scishow...?... that can illustrate it better than I could in a comment)... They've adapted to the current co2 levels and would take thousands of years for entire species to adapt to today's levels of co2 without facing extinction (especially bad if those provide food for us). Then there's indirect problems... Higher temperatures increase solubility of some minerals which can atrophy existing mechanisms or diminish the capability fauna and Flora has to absorb those essencial minerals, co2 disolves in water which acidifies it and has pretty much messed up the calcium carbonate (limestone) cycle which not only released more co2 (one of the many ways an increase in co2 concentration causes more co2 to be released) but also prevents animals that rely on shells from growing and reproducing (corals, molusks, zooplancton...) which in turn removed the food that other animals relied upon and with their numbers dwindling those above them in the food chain suffer as well, those animals are also responsible for depositing co2 through their life cycles so removing them also makes it harder to remove co2 from the atmosphere. And it's also going to make life harder to most of us by removing land mass, agricultural land, increasing the strength of natural disasters, expanding tropical diseases to places that didnt have them, reducing water supplies and even increasing human migrations because 90% of humans live near the coast and if their houses disappear they're not just gonna move inland and call it a day, they're gonna need money to recuperate financially and/or they're just going to move to places they see as both less likely to see that happen again and were opportunity to find a job and remake their lives is easier in their eyes (that means Europe, US, Canada...). Obviously not everything or even everyone is going to die unless we crank co2 production like a James bond supervillain trying to destroy the world (which, To be fair... I can almost see oil companies do since they are being almost cartoonishly evil...) people with money will live somewere protected and separated from those of us and life will adapt and evolve, even if only extremophiles survived life would find a way... But at the very least millions of human beings will die for no reason other than someone wanting more of a piece of paper for their piece of paper collection and the rich themselves wouldn't be much better in a bunker or a fenced property spending inordinate amounts of money and time guaranteeing the resources they need to survive instead of traveling and enjoying a sky trip or eating luxurious foods (which are also disappearing ironically or not). And it's not only not natural but unnecessary and preventable... Anyway... Sorry for the rambling by the end... Professional hazard.

@bjorntorlarsson

Ай бұрын

@@pedromoura1446 CO2 level has never been as low as now (or 100 years ago, the oil industry has restored a more natural level thanks to recycling carbon to the atmosphere). When CO2 level was more than 4 times higher, a level that the oil industry unfortunately never can achieve, 100 million years ago, we had mega flora and mega fauna. Life was thriving as never before or hence. Politically manipulated computer models that have been totally wrong in every respect for over 35 years now, are of course nothing but obviously lying propaganda. The climate doomsday fraud is fortunately dying now. In a couple of years no one will even mention global warming or CO2 emissions any more. Now the uneduated looting psycopaths are going for the war economy fraud instead as their means to abolish all human rights and all industrial wealth in the Western world.

But what if you don't care for the taste of salmon? Or if you like people more than fish?

That increase in salmon population is worth a lot of money.

@MrToradragon

2 ай бұрын

But I doubt that it is worthy more than flood protection, water storage and energy production.

@ThereWillBeCake

2 ай бұрын

@@MrToradragonGive it a lick.

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

I heard something about salmon "pens". When I was born, salmon was a special luxury. Now it's like hamburger. And with that blessing we have to listen to greener-than-thou idiots who get pouty about raising fish in pens. "Hey tree huggers! Should we outlaw cattle raising and go back to hunting buffalo on horseback????"

So instead of maintaining those dam's pool, cleaning deposits and building water ways for the fish they just demolish everything and spended tons of money doing so as well future spending's all for sake of some1 doing all those jobs and fish industry.. In other words it called corruption and im almost sure those private donators are connected to fuel importers and sellers.

I mean if they are failing anyway they have to be removed before they collapse, i just dont understand why they had to be bought from the electric companies, it should be their job to remove them at their cost, they made profits for decades with it and now taxpayers have to buckle the cost of demolition?

this is a self- destruction process

Once a country is advanced and very rich, it doesn't need all that crude infrastructure. Rewilding is the next stage for advanced economies with rich and comfortable declining populations and increasingly automated industries.

@user-rn2zb6be1u

Ай бұрын

Do you not realise that they are importing shit tonnes of new residents from high birthrate countries.

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

It's all for those stupid salmon??? We have fish farms for those. Why can they just build a fish ladder?

@kiwidiesel

Ай бұрын

​@@hg2.Get with the times, it needs to be a fish elevator 😂

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

@@kiwidiesel

@hg2.

Ай бұрын

I heard something about salmon "pens". When I was born, salmon was a special luxury. Now it's like hamburger. And with that blessing we have to listen to greener-than-thou idiots who get pouty about raising fish in pens. "Hey tree huggers! Should we outlaw cattle raising and go back to hunting buffalo on horseback????"

Interesting

in canada first nations can finally move back to the original lands since they took 12 dams out !!! in quebec !!!

@funkyanimaltheearloffunkdo1871

Ай бұрын

Those dams will go right back up when China takes over. Why do people forget that they are competing against other people.

Silly to think that large dams will be removed not rebuilt. And what about the ecosystem that was all ready created by the dam. What about the dams for drinking water that power big cities, they cant be removed.