How an excavator swing motor /swing drive works hydraulics

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  • @bradrigg6424
    @bradrigg64248 ай бұрын

    That was a video that every owner/operator appreciates thank you for your time and I'm speaking for all of us. Thank you

  • @breaking_mowers3811
    @breaking_mowers3811 Жыл бұрын

    You are such a dude! Working on a rotary... not had much luck... now I know what is wrong. Cheers, from the UK!!

  • @JoeG-wm8ro
    @JoeG-wm8ro3 жыл бұрын

    Dang you answered a lot of questions...but made a lot more!!! Great video to start diagnosing a problem!!!

  • @khurshedirani6312
    @khurshedirani63123 жыл бұрын

    Excelent lecture. I love your style of explanation. Stays in the head.

  • @krb4420
    @krb44202 жыл бұрын

    This is incredibly helpful as I work to build my heavy equipment knowledge to learn to operate new machines at the mine.

  • @BenKoren
    @BenKoren Жыл бұрын

    Incredibly helpful for the issues I’m diagnosing at the moment. Thank you.

  • @LLImprovement
    @LLImprovement2 жыл бұрын

    This was a great explanation. I have a Hitachi ex230lc and i was curious about why the swing does not feel very accurate. My swing motor probably doesn't have the valve to stop the back and forth after i stop swinging. I read that checking the swing relief valves for contamination may help as well. Thank you again.

  • @ustarecepusta
    @ustarecepusta2 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much. Good explanation.🇹🇷

  • @cineminded
    @cineminded9 ай бұрын

    I just discovered your channel today , and the subjects are all clearly and in depth explained. This is realy helpfull and also enjoyable to watch , thanks !

  • @hydraulics

    @hydraulics

    9 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @sumitmukherjee7790
    @sumitmukherjee77903 жыл бұрын

    Sounds great....loved this training

  • @chrisburdin3889
    @chrisburdin38892 жыл бұрын

    That is exactly what i wanted to know! great Video. Thanks.

  • @catalinmaris6887
    @catalinmaris68873 жыл бұрын

    Nice video,and very nice explained. Can t wait to see more. Thanks

  • @georgehofgren6123
    @georgehofgren6123 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome instructional video, thnx! Ques- On a mini (hitachi 35), is there oil in the reduction drive? Wondering if that is something to change (not clear from the documentation) ~

  • @jadamson222
    @jadamson2222 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, thanks for posting...I have a Hitachi EX120-3 with the same swing drive shown in your video with the anti-reaction spool option. Oil literally sprays out from under the front anti-reaction spool cover and bolt holes when swinging left. I replaced the O-ring under the front spool cover with an OEM JDeere O-ring and lapped the cover flat but it still leaks terribly. I'm thinking there might be a problem with the front swing relief valve after watching your video. Can swing relief valves be serviced/cleaned or just replaced?

  • @paxtonridgecontractingltd.9697
    @paxtonridgecontractingltd.9697 Жыл бұрын

    Such a great video...off to fix my swing brake now.

  • @kp4806
    @kp480610 ай бұрын

    Great video. Thanks man

  • @northmanlogging2769
    @northmanlogging27693 жыл бұрын

    Thankee, Think I'm ready to rebuild mine now... and figure out why its never really stopped swinging, it would slow down, but never stop, unless engine was off, then it stopped hard, so its either a secondary solenoid, or the pilot pressure is remaining on.

  • @Senkino5o
    @Senkino5o3 жыл бұрын

    Okay, well my mate has a 3t Bobcat Excavator, I think from their now discontinued series (machine's at least 8, not more than 15 years). I work on it for him, it has a good bit of rock to and fro on the swing bearing and almost every pin/bush is wore out on the boom, most concerning for me is it has free slew/swing movement at least to a degree (I haven't tested in depth), could this be related to the wet brake on the drive? Or maybe just that swing bearing again allowing all that free play between teeth? I also operate & work on a Komatsu LC605 Crawler Crane, which seems to be based on a 8.8t Komatsu PC80LC, the slew function is very slow, does seem to lock, but may have the free lift function you mentioned. I assume this is all by design - But what would be the cause of the slow slew/swing speed? Just a lower flow rate or maybe a greater gear reduction? It also seems to pull to the left when tracking, I figure this might be a tensioning issue, but it is a pain to check as it obviously lacks a standard boom with which to lift a track off the ground, is there another way to check or could it be something else?

  • @granteckard6880
    @granteckard68807 ай бұрын

    Great video! Very educational. Thank you

  • @ram_inmohd-8264
    @ram_inmohd-82642 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate your explanation awssum❤

  • @johnharrington3723
    @johnharrington3723 Жыл бұрын

    Greta video. I have a ? Komatsu Pc 60. When u push left or right to swing sometimes the brake activates n abruptly stops. If I push a little coward adding the crowd cylinder it swings nice. So it seems the swing function is not always activating that pressure valve u talked about. Where would u start ur diagnosis? Thanks

  • @gatorimies3353
    @gatorimies33533 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. So on my kobelco swing motor problem is that moves the rigth side on slope when I use the boom. What I can do?

  • @Langendimi555
    @Langendimi5553 ай бұрын

    Nice! Thank you.

  • @danalex2991
    @danalex29913 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @chrisseanard6240
    @chrisseanard6240 Жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to manually release the swing break? We are working on a bobcat e26 and have it halfway apart and meet to swing it a little bit to get bolts out.

  • @ferguson20diesel49
    @ferguson20diesel493 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever worked with Poclain motor or hydraulic pumps

  • @yashsingh8979
    @yashsingh89793 жыл бұрын

    Very good video put more video

  • @reynaldoclaveria100
    @reynaldoclaveria1008 ай бұрын

    thanks for this video very interesting.

  • @JohnJohn-rb7kg
    @JohnJohn-rb7kg2 жыл бұрын

    Good Explanation

  • @GFSwinger1693
    @GFSwinger1693 Жыл бұрын

    How do the track drive motor's fluids get through the slewing mechanism? I presume there are no limits on how many rotations in one direction are allowed?

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    @truongviet194911 ай бұрын

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  • @sebastiansiebenhandl7951
    @sebastiansiebenhandl79512 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much¡👍

  • @jamessagvideos6861
    @jamessagvideos68613 жыл бұрын

    Grate video

  • @Rsjewellery173314
    @Rsjewellery1733143 жыл бұрын

    Nice video 🙏🙏

  • @everytoolashammer9427
    @everytoolashammer94279 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for this video

  • @biniyamnigussie3087
    @biniyamnigussie3087 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for tacking 🙏🙏

  • @otheusischirosathanatos1035
    @otheusischirosathanatos10353 жыл бұрын

    Amazing

  • @jasonchandler7214
    @jasonchandler7214 Жыл бұрын

    Can you help please. My Cat 311C swing motor, just serviced with new seals broke the two bolts holding it and bent the plate holding shaping it like a bowl. The left track motor has no movement. Both track motors were replaced recently. Where would such high pressure be coming from to bend the 10mm steel plate and lift up the whole swing motor. Your reply would be highly appreciated as the mechanic can't work it out. Just replaced the main hydraulic pump as well. It did the same thing , broke the bolts and bent the plate an don movement in the left track motor? Jason

  • @heribertusthamrin5258
    @heribertusthamrin525814 күн бұрын

    Sorry sir , do u have data of dimention of piston brake of swing motor CAT 200 E ? If you have would you share with me , n before thanks a lot

  • @zekirjakashtanjeva6564
    @zekirjakashtanjeva6564 Жыл бұрын

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  • @abktruth
    @abktruth9 ай бұрын

    So helpful

  • @medberd8885
    @medberd88853 жыл бұрын

    hi.tanks

  • @jayirving6996
    @jayirving69963 жыл бұрын

    So on my komatsu pc-28 it's slow to stop swinging to the left but works fine to the right so it's probably a check valve not the swing brake?

  • @hydraulics

    @hydraulics

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd check the relief valves first. Swap em left to right and see if the issue switches sides

  • @4716515
    @47165153 жыл бұрын

    How can i hire you for a diagnosis?

  • @jimbayonla7708
    @jimbayonla77082 жыл бұрын

    how to troubleshoot swing leaver malfunction lonking excavator

  • @abibekele4680
    @abibekele4680Ай бұрын

    Tank you very much ❤❤❤

  • @jackpurlee6150
    @jackpurlee61505 ай бұрын

    Im running a 308 cat im geting a slight grinding noisewhen im swinging back as long as i swing slow it doesn't do it but when i dig fast it does it im not sure what it is it just started a couple days ago

  • @hydraulics

    @hydraulics

    5 ай бұрын

    check swing bearing grease pan. check swing drive dipstick.

  • @jrac863
    @jrac863 Жыл бұрын

    If the swing motor has internal leakage would that cause low system pressure ?

  • @hydraulics

    @hydraulics

    Жыл бұрын

    Low system pressure? Maybe when swinging... I'd need to know a LOT more

  • @chrisniebuhr2591
    @chrisniebuhr25913 жыл бұрын

    What would cause an excavator to swing extremely slow and not stop swinging on its own? The blade has minimal power too

  • @hydraulics

    @hydraulics

    3 жыл бұрын

    I could come up with 50 reasons for any particular excavator. Multiply that by the hundreds of models with different systems from 2 dozen manufacturers... probably a thousand things could be listed. I'd have to run the machine, do some visual and basic tests, then hit the schematic and start looking for what's common to the swing and blade functions if I thought the symptoms were connected. I have 35 years experience working on heavy equipment and I wouldn't even begin to guess over the internet- waste of everyone's time.

  • @jrac863
    @jrac8632 жыл бұрын

    working on a 425 bobcat mini excavator .If the seals were bad on the swing motor would that cause low system pressure throughout the entire hydraulic system.We have checked everything filters ,pump filters.main reliefs cannot figure whats going on.Buddy of mine told me if seals were bad in swing motor it could cause low pressure through the hydraulic system

  • @hydraulics

    @hydraulics

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope. How did you "check the main reliefs"? Did you cut the filters open to see what's in them?

  • @jrac863

    @jrac863

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hydraulics yes we did cut open old filter just pretty much a normal dirty filterFlow tested the hydraulic pump all up to spec.We tested main relief at main relief port on the excavator. by deadheading all functions.When we first start machine pressure reads over 3000 psi after 5 minutes drops to 2400 after 30 minutes drops to under 2000 psi.Main relief on control valve is the only thing we have not swapped over.Is it possible its bad ?Is a way to bench test a main relief valve?

  • @mikerewegan9960

    @mikerewegan9960

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@jrac863 got a serial number of the machine?

  • @jrac863

    @jrac863

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mikerewegan9960 it is aacj11297 its a 2009 machine

  • @bobbyjack8033
    @bobbyjack80333 жыл бұрын

    I've got a question I hope you can help with. I have 2001 Cat 313B cr, if I'm on a slope my swing brake locks after 5 seconds and releases if I bump and hydraulics bucket, boom ect BUT my cab starts to swing towards gravity (downhill). Is this normal? I figured it would hold after the swing (park) brake is released. Thank you!!!

  • @glenquagmire4232

    @glenquagmire4232

    3 жыл бұрын

    The friction disc are worn out

  • @MitzvosGolem1

    @MitzvosGolem1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Loss off brake release pressure will cause swing to lock . Check for blown orings in pilot brake circut . Friction discs worn out also. Pilot Hydraulic pressure release discs. Rare for discs to wear out since they only hold machine not stop swing .

  • @zanpetric4008

    @zanpetric4008

    3 ай бұрын

    Probably need to change the rotary group in the hydraulic motor. Check your case drain flow.

  • @bikashrai160
    @bikashrai1602 жыл бұрын

    Is their any electrical connection with swing

  • @hydraulics

    @hydraulics

    2 жыл бұрын

    There sure can be. Heck, Komatsu have an excavator with a completely electric swing motor.. no hydraulics involved . Thanks for watching!

  • @_maxstockwell
    @_maxstockwell Жыл бұрын

    Hi! I have a Hitachi Zaxis 120 leaking Hydraulic oil from gear oil filler and dipstick on the swing motor. Any help or advice would be much appreciated.

  • @emmanuelkumah3926

    @emmanuelkumah3926

    5 ай бұрын

    Hydraulic leaking from motor to hear side check the motor seal

  • @zanpetric4008

    @zanpetric4008

    3 ай бұрын

    The main seal at the bottom of the shaft of rotary group has probably done its work. Cause of it can be a high case drain pressure, so it’s probably necessary to also replace the rotary group. Also check if the case drain hose isn’t clogged so the pressure doesn’t build up in the hydraulic motor, because that could be the cause of the blown seal.

  • @_maxstockwell

    @_maxstockwell

    3 ай бұрын

    @@zanpetric4008 Thanks for the reply. it wasn't clogged. Rotary manifold rebuild didn't solve issue. (i didn't think it would but boss told me to do it.) We ended up replacing swing motor which solved our issue. Suspected valve plate or axial piston failure.

  • @zanpetric4008

    @zanpetric4008

    3 ай бұрын

    @@_maxstockwell rotary manifold has no connection to the swing motor, except the case drain in some cases from the final drives. By rotary group I mean the swing motor cylinder block pistons and valve plate (not rotary manifold). Your analysis could be correct. It’s good that you fixed the problem, but I still think the motor could be rebuilt. I just fixed mine (slew drift and low slewing power) and changed the main seal, rotary group and bearings (altogether about 700-800$/€ but nit the oem parts). Machine is tak 1140 which I believe has the same motor as yours-hms072?

  • @zanpetric4008
    @zanpetric40083 ай бұрын

    What is a spec for case drain flow on a motor like this?

  • @hydraulics

    @hydraulics

    3 ай бұрын

    Rule of thumb, 5% of the flow being fed to it

  • @zanpetric4008

    @zanpetric4008

    3 ай бұрын

    @@hydraulicsso 5% of the main pump flow?

  • @reggieferrer5457
    @reggieferrer54573 жыл бұрын

    Have you encountered a cat excavator swing not working any idea

  • @hydraulics

    @hydraulics

    3 жыл бұрын

    of course- I just showed you 30 + parts in this video, all of which could break, wear out or malfunction.

  • @forkliftpowergarage5435
    @forkliftpowergarage54353 жыл бұрын

    Hi cat 330DI exavator das not brack

  • @bernardkriel1
    @bernardkriel1 Жыл бұрын

    also known as a SLEW drive

  • @maiadaniels669
    @maiadaniels669Ай бұрын

    Excellent video!