Short answer: McLaren Long answer: _ＭｃＬａｒｅｎ_

@tbz1551

5 жыл бұрын

yinping Cho CARLIN

@tylerp4130

5 жыл бұрын

@@tbz1551 one Carlin driver made it. Alonso wasn't the problem, he showed in his first attempt at the 500 that he could win it in a competitive car.

@motorcityoctane6713

5 жыл бұрын

You can't throw all the blame on Mclaren. Everyone in Indycar uses the same chassis, gearbox, body & aero. The 2 engine suppliers are closely hoologated as well. One biggest problems might have been that Alonso wrecked the car, and missed way too much practice. Now Mclaren was god awful slow fixing it, but you can't complain too much when you wreck the car. People forget that this is a completely new aero package with less downforce than what Alonso is used too, he seemed just as lost as Mclaren. Even on bump day he got a tuned dampers from Andretti & complete setup info from Penske & still couldn't make it.

@ciaronsmith4995

5 жыл бұрын

Nah, Alonso crashed. Not McLaren.

@adampaff3140

5 жыл бұрын

Shoot there have been many teams who run in the series as regulars that have missed making the Indy 500 , team penske dominated the series in 1994, but couldn't get a car in the field in 1995, Bobbie Rahal, James Hinchcliff, what did they think, that they were going to come in and dominate with little to no experience!

McLaren were unprepared. They thought they could just turn up and and make it, they were arrogant and underestimated IndyCar.

@PhilsArtDotCom

5 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I heard from an insider. "A comedy of errors" was how it was put.

@paulallen8109

5 жыл бұрын

Bronco I don't understand how they believed they could just enter the Indy500 with an all-new team not competing at any other events of the IndyCar series, and thus lacking the vital experience, and expect to do well right out of the box. Either they enter as a full-time outfit in 2020 or they can forget all about the Indy500.

@tylerp4130

5 жыл бұрын

@@paulallen8109 Arrogance, plain and simple. They underestimated Indy and they look like idiots now.

I read a Sportsnet article that summarized some of the mistakes McLaren made, these are all literally unbelievable: 1. They were late to the April test and couldn't put the car on track because they forgot to find a steering wheel until a week before. Yes, they forgot they needed a steering wheel, which Zak Brown had to personally go and find from Cosworth and couldn't be ready on time. 2. A month before qualifying, they decided didn't like the shade of orange that Carlin painted the chassis they bought from them (which was their spare), so they had it repainted. It was STILL in the paint shop a month later, 30 mins from the track, when Alonso had his practice crash. While other teams that suffered crashes had their spares on track literally hours later, McLaren lost almost 2 full days of track time because they couldn't organize a papaya orange paint job that took less than a month to complete. And apparently they didn't foresee any reason to have their spare car at the track ready to go even if it wasn't painted exactly the way they wanted. 3. An electrical problem on the car lost them even more track time. They fired a guy over it, so it was obviously something idiotic. 4. Alonso's first qualifying run was sabotaged because they sent the car out onto the track with a punctured tire, but didn't detect it beforehand because according to Brown they bought "incorrect tire sensors". 5. After begging the entire paddock for help with a new setup, they sent Alonso out onto the track with a car that was dragging on the ground because they made a mistake converting inches to millimeters. (!!!) 6. After being knocked out of the race in qualifying, McLaren discovered they had accidentally installed the wrong gear ratio in the car. Brown says they accidentally installed a ratio for 227.5mph instead of 229mph. Alonso missed the grid by 0.019mph with incorrect gearing. And this is just the stuff we know about. With the exception of maybe the electrical problem (which still necessitated getting rid of a crew member), any one of these mistakes is unfathomable for a professional race team of any caliber. This is McLaren for christ sake. They think it's acceptable to have their spare car off track getting a paint job while their only other chassis is out there running? They don't know how to convert inches to mm? They don't know their car requires a steering wheel? They're putting wrong parts on the car for an Indy 500 qualifying run?? Jesus, this is stuff that stupid people that have never been to a race track in their lives would do. If Alonso doesn't cut all ties with McLaren after this, I'm no longer a fan. These idiots couldn't organize a lemonade stand, if he's going to pin his triple crown hopes on McLaren then he's as incompetent as the rest of that team is.

@duderama6750

5 жыл бұрын

Sabotage, it's the Alonso curse. The racing gods won't let him win again.

@whythefuckineedhandle

5 жыл бұрын

It does look like a curse,seriously. Let us be honest about it - everything McLaren tried to do with Alonso - is VERY cool ideas,but they for whatever reason keep failing,with more and more idiotic reasons. While McLaren in F1 doing a lot better this year,and Alonso in everything not-related to McLaren is pretty successful. Together - nope. Doesn't work.

@duderama6750

5 жыл бұрын

@@whythefuckineedhandle It's strange and sad, because Alonso is a great driver, and a true sportsman. Somehow he has earned a reputation as a troublemaker, through poor choices and perhaps bad advice. The Tyrion Lannister of Formula 1. Motorsport is a team sport, without a close knit crew of dedicated pros no lasting success is possible at the top. That seems to be where he is lacking, in the team building. All of the great drivers built the team around themselves. McLaren have veered far off course. They need a real driver back at the wheel as team principal. It's the same malfunction as the one at Williams.

@TMJ32

5 жыл бұрын

@@duderama6750 The only point I disagree with is the drivers. With McLaren and Williams it doesn't matter who drives the cars. Both of those teams are struggling with a lack of talent within, and nobody is around within the leadership that knows how to win and knows how to make a good car. McLaren can't even get a spec IndyCar to run properly, and for absolutely ridiculous reasons. You and I could have run a more organized program than McLaren did. At a minimum we would have had a steering wheel on the car, the spare car ready at the track and I'm sure between the 2 of us we can convert inches to millimeters correctly. So we'd already be 3 mistakes less than McLaren.

@duderama6750

5 жыл бұрын

@@TMJ32 Sorry for the clumsy metaphor, by "driver" I meant team principal with racing experience, like Bruce McLaren and Frank Williams.

I think McLaren needs to take IndyCar more seriously. Their lack of preparation points to their underestimating the whole IndyCar scene.

@Tommy2shoe811

5 жыл бұрын

David Salvia McLaren is too successful to do something as stupid as think they’d walk in and dominate. If they did then they’re fools but I doubt it bc Zac Brown and the simple fact is the long list of F1 greats who’ve failed at Indy (btw not an indictment on their skills Indy is a completely different animal) proves that. F1 is obviously a superior race series better cars and better drivers (the top F1 drivers) but there are definitely multiple drivers in indycar that are better than some of the F1 drivers racing today. Indycar is not some bush league cake walk where someone from F1 can just walk into it and win.

@markjurczyk

5 жыл бұрын

Got smoked by Chevy hahahahahahahah

McLaren: It wasn't us. We have the best chassis on the grid.

You know honestly if Alonso wants to get that triple crown, he should join an established team full time like andretti or penske.

@sloppynyuszi

5 жыл бұрын

Adrian Wong exactly. I think it’s not really giving the series much credit by him just showing for the one event. Would love to see him do 3-4 seasons at Indy series.

@KrolKaz

5 жыл бұрын

It all depends on how serious he is about it, Penske has a full roster this year but I'm sure they could find an open spot for him next season, even if he just ran ovals it would give him much needed experience.

@Dashriprock4

5 жыл бұрын

Ed Carpenter Racing

@Kyle86910

5 жыл бұрын

Penske wont take him

@RogueInfern0

5 жыл бұрын

It would be hard for him to get in with a Honda team, since he kinda already burned that bridge. The only good Chevy team is Penske, but it’s full. I think his best bet, provided he overcomes the hurdle of Honda, would be with Andretti or Ganassi.

I know it doesn't have any relevance to the video, but Rest In Peace Niki Lauda, one of F1's greatest drivers

@dindinduckduck

5 жыл бұрын

2019 sucks, first we lost Charlie Whiting, now we lost Niki Lauda

Even a world champion can't cure McLaren's current situation. The team has core issues. You can't just turn up at IndyCar and expect to be a on pace .

@Grooove_e

5 жыл бұрын

Well, you CAN actually do that...as McClaren proved to us...

@James-vj5hz

5 жыл бұрын

@@Grooove_e No. What they did in 2017 would be the equivalent of putting an Andretti livery on a Mercedes. The "Andretti" team would just have to show up.

@Grooove_e

5 жыл бұрын

@@James-vj5hz Yeah buddy we are not talking about 2017...we are talking about 2019.

@motorcityoctane6713

5 жыл бұрын

@@Grooove_e Mclaren never showed pace all week tho, slow in multiple days of practice, slow in hours of qualifying & slow on bump day. Aside from being damn near the slowest all week, they were even slower rebuilding the car after Fernando crashed it. The only reason they icked up a little speed on bump day was they bought tuned dampers from Andretti & Penske felt so bad they shared setup info & still couldn't make the race

@Grooove_e

5 жыл бұрын

@@motorcityoctane6713 Ahhh gotcha. I was saying McClaren did exactly what the original commenter said they "cant" do. Which was having basically every resource to be able to win the Indy500 and then not even making it into the race

Rip nikki May be in heaven But always a legend

@alelibiv1469

5 жыл бұрын

@@GFSCN69 is he not allowed to pay respects?

@alelibiv1469

5 жыл бұрын

@@GFSCN69 I don't even know why the fucking idiots at Autosport aren't doing a video on Niki Lauda instead of McLaren's trainwreck

@99percenter1

5 жыл бұрын

Wow, I hadn't heard. He and Mario were my favorites back then. After his first retirement, I missed him, and wondered how he would have done against the new stars, like Piquet and Prost. I was so excited when I read that he was returning. And I got to see him get his first win on returning at the third race, in Long Beach in '82. The crowd went wild after the race. RIP, Niki. You were great to watch and read about.

That's what happens when you view another racing series as inferior and that you can just stroll in and win. You'll be humbled every time. (Not referring to Alonso, but McLaren).

@jameskovacic4895

5 жыл бұрын

Everything mclaren does now seems to have this arrogance of we're the best everyone else is the worst, no matter what series it is in

@DanielFrost79

5 жыл бұрын

I was about to wite something similar: If Alonso is a good driver in F1 why would he think he would be as good in Indy 500. It's like saying M.Schumacher is a good F1 driver... his brother R.Schumacher is just as good. "But they have the same blood" - No, 2 different ppl, different blood. That's not how it works. First of all they are different drivers. Second is that its 2 different motor sports. (In my opinion one is worth watching (Formula 1) and the other is not (Indy 500))

@WolfestoneManor

5 жыл бұрын

@@DanielFrost79 I think driving for WEC with Toyota made him feel bulletproof. But this is something he can learn from and with a better team he probably could contend.

@DanielFrost79

5 жыл бұрын

@@WolfestoneManor Yeah, i think so to. He is a good driver, not Senna material, but nontheless. Won't come overnight but if he wants he will get there. With Mclaren or any other team.

@WolfestoneManor

5 жыл бұрын

@@DanielFrost79 I bet if he ran a full season with a good team he could be competitive, especially on the road courses. Unless he's hardcore on rallying I don't see why he shouldn't. F1 champ, WEC champ, and Indy champ makes him one of a kind.

There’s a recent article that came out with a LOT more info about the specific ways McLaren botched this. For example the car was bottoming out due to a bad metric to imperial conversion. And the backup car wasn’t ready because it was painted the wrong shade of orange. So much more. And his flat tire was not caught because they ordered the wrong tire pressure sensors.

@randomcamerajunk6977

5 жыл бұрын

Not to mention nobody realising they didn't have a steering wheel for the car and Zack brown personally having to go cap in hand to cosworth to get one

@Delimon007

5 жыл бұрын

But people think this is just alonso's bad driving >_>

@aydankhaliq2967

2 жыл бұрын

@kim Dier should've left it in metric.

With how competitive the Indy 500 is I simply don't think its possible to win the race as a one off. If Alonso really wants it he should run the full indy car championship with an established team like Andretti, ECR or Penske

@fabiobalenzano6439

5 жыл бұрын

mmmhhh. aside from the fact he was in the top 5 and climbing last year when his Honda engine blew up.

@callmen4

5 жыл бұрын

@@fabiobalenzano6439 still wouldn't have won against experienced oval drivers

@davidpape5548

5 жыл бұрын

Fabio Balenzano Why do so many people think that alonso drove the indy 500 last year? Thats simply false...

@mattnorris8960

5 жыл бұрын

Fabio Balenzano He last raced two years ago in 2017, and that was in a McLaren branded Andretti car. A previous poster rightly compared that to an IndyCar organization slapping their name on a Mercedes in F1 and claiming it as their own. That being said it was amazing to watch him basically dominate that day until he blew up.

@chrish931

5 жыл бұрын

I half agree, he needs an experienced team to win, and Penske, Andretti and several other big teams run one offs at Indy. He could win it with one of the big teams just running Indy. If he wants to do it with McLaren though, he'll need to build the team, and that's going to take running full seasons and maybe a couple years. I think he could get an offer from a major team for a one race Indy ride. What he did in 17 with an Andretti car showed me he can have a shot just running the 500.

McLaren.. The Williams of Indy 500.

@dolphinoegglet7263

5 жыл бұрын

Shit, at least Williams Qualify

@RogueInfern0

5 жыл бұрын

*Carlin

@vs4544

5 жыл бұрын

McLaren... the McLaren of Indy 500

@fredxu99

5 жыл бұрын

McLaren... the McLaren of everything right now. They're not what they used to be 😟

In 2017, Takuma Sato won with a Honda engine and yet at 1:30 you are blaming it in some way that it was a Honda issue. Look at Honda in Formula 1 right now with Red Bull. They are on podiums. There is a serious problem with you guys.

@FutureF123

4 жыл бұрын

Honda was the fastest engine in 2017 but very unreliable. If you actually followed the month of may rather than just reading the results page, you'd know that.

Never knew MasterCard Lola had a Indy team

@jstoli996c4s

5 жыл бұрын

DJ 6290 lol 😂

A backup car that wasnt ready at all, setups from other teams being slapped together last minute. The prep was a joke, they didn't have a steering wheel in time, ordered the incorrect tire pressure sensors and sent him out with a puncture, ride height was set in metric instead of imperial, the wrong gear ratios were selected... From beginning to end, this was a complete, utter, flop.

@incubatork

5 жыл бұрын

I second that, listening to a spanish f1 comentator that is a personal friend of fernando he mentioned everything said and more, they didn't even have the second car painted the right colour, they also had to get off track garages to modify and fix some parts as they had no spares. Personaly i think they went into indy thinking it was going to be a walkover and they got caught with thier trousers down and relying too much on fernandos talent to pull them out of the shit.

Perhaps indycar isn't as easy as the f1 community condecendingly thinks it is?

@asgeiralbretsen

5 жыл бұрын

Not easy in a backmarker team. Also saying Indycar is easier than Formula 1 does not mean Formula 1 drivers will do well in Indycar. It still incredibly difficult to be successful in Indycar, but easier than Formula 1.

How on earth can a big organisation get it so wrong. Have such poor planning over this. It's embarrassing how they could go there and expect it to be so easy. Total arrogance

@fabiobalenzano6439

5 жыл бұрын

Look at their F1 record the last 5-6 years.......

Alonso should just part ways with McLaren, and see if he can sign with one of the top IndyCar teams for a full season next year. A McLaren Indy team will just be half-arsed in comparison.

@Danny-oi8yl

5 жыл бұрын

"Will be?" It already is.

Director: It's a McLaren! 😮 Fernando: It's a shitbox! 😑

Feel bad for him. He needs to depart from mclaren even tho i love them. Smh

Fernando should sign for a full Indycar season with Andretti if he truly wants the triple crown.

@marcas8269

5 жыл бұрын

Not really, if he wants the 👑👑👑, he only has to win the Indy 500, not the whole season

i wouldn't mind if Graham Hill remains the only one with the triple crown..it seems more of a challenge back then than nowadays..you had to survive to finish all 3...hats off to Graham for that.

@jeremiahd2417

3 жыл бұрын

The reliability was also crap. And only 1/4th of the grid actually completed the 500 miles.

I knew from the onboard camera that he was on a different set up from the top teams just by looking at his steering wheel. His was pointed straight on the straights where on the top teams there steering wheel was angled meaning there’s had more castor. Also I believe Alonso just doesn’t have enough experience driving on ovals and adjusting his weight jacker and roll bar to suit the requirements for each corner.

@Angell-_

5 жыл бұрын

I noticed that as well. He also seemed to be fighting the car with more steering movement than other drivers.

@aurlll

5 жыл бұрын

J Jz smart analysis

"Whatever else he fancies doing". ""I like what McLaren are doing. I like that they're saying 'We're not just F1, we're going to look at Le Mans really seriously ..." Well, there's your problems right there. They think they (Alonso and McLaren) can be like the gentlemen drivers of prewar days, drive down to Le Mans in their Bentleys and beat Johnny Foreigner, and indulge their megastar driver in whatever little side hobbies he wants to do. That's not how it works nowadays, in any top-level category. You have to have commitment, and treat each category with respect. "He's said he doesn't want to do a whole season" is just the absolute cream of arrogance.

Goes to show that the whole F1 better than other series isn’t true, they couldn’t just show up and run good as ppl would say... it a two way street anyone try to go into a new series with diff type of car is going to have growing pains.. Alonso should run a whole season that way he will be way more comfortable and able to give feed back as to what he needs from the car

McLaren started getting things together for Indy wayyyyyy to late and with Alonso not being able to run a McLaren with a Honda engine... It was an upward battle from the start. Completely torpedoed by the lack of practice and running.

Short Answer: McLaren Long Answer : M c L a r e n

He needs to sign full time for Penske next year. Otherwise the triple crown is lost.

@fabiobalenzano6439

5 жыл бұрын

Ganassi and Andretti are just as good an option

@FormulaOneFan98

5 жыл бұрын

@@fabiobalenzano6439 Andretti run Honda engines and Honda dont wont Alonso driving in one of their teams.

@jamesdarnell8568

5 жыл бұрын

When Nigel Mansell came to the USA from F1 to race CART in 1993, he came to an established team, partnered with Mario Andretti. (He took the place of Michael Andretti, who left to race F1 with McClaren. LOL). Nigel won races, finished third at Indy after leading the race for a while, all at the age of 40. He was the CART champion for 1993 in his first try. Alonso is only 38. He needs to race the entire 2020 IndyCar season with Penske, Andretti or Ganassi, starting with testing in Fall 2019. I agree that without the full time commitment, the triple crown will never happen for him.

How could a team with the history of McLaren turn up with the wrong dampers ffs? Don’t they have a shock dyno?

The new cars look wonderfully sleek and simple. Could you tell us what size engines they use and what power they are limited to?

@houstonharwood7197

5 жыл бұрын

I believe they're 720hp, but the power is reduced on superspeedways to somewhere between 500-600hp, because with all the aero parts stripped down for Indy, that's all you need to do 238mph down the straight and 226mph in the corners.

@aries749

5 жыл бұрын

2.2 liter V-6, Quad Cam, 24 valve, Direct Injected, Twin Turbocharged. Approx. 750hp in Road Course/Short Oval trim (of which ~50hp is available on the Push To Pass feature). Approx. 550hp in Super Speedway race trim (for Indy, Pocono, Texas), 600hp in Qualifying trim at Indy.

@gordonanderson3111

5 жыл бұрын

SO SAD how GM rejected my all electric Indy car design - without consideration. We could have had the about same cars, far lower cost, NO 140db possibility of permanent hearing loss... With a quick change battery pack, for pit stops shorter the the ones with the highly explosive fuel. Formula E in 2005, but NOOooooooo. Rejected with extreme prejudice.

@VG03Racing

5 жыл бұрын

@@gordonanderson3111 lmaoooooooooooooo how about no

It can't be stressed how crazy it is for McLaren to miss the Indy 500 like this. Many F1 fans in the current era probably don't think about it much, but McLaren has a great tradition at Indy. Between that and Can-Am, McLaren was probably more popular here in the States than they were in Europe for many of their early years. Hope they sort it out

Ed Carpenter could be the solution for Mclaren running the whole next season in Indycar

@Alex_Mac_

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe not. When McLaren didn't partner, Ed Carpenter Racing formed a partnership with Scuderia Corsa.

@trutimagnum161

5 жыл бұрын

@@Alex_Mac_ you never know ;)

Great video, bit just a minor correction. DragonSpeed did not start their program here at Indy. They ran at St. Pete to start the season, and also ran at Barber. Those two races were invaluable in my opinion, in terms of getting all the growing pains out of the way.

If i was Alonso i would get as far as i could and as fast as i could away from Mclaren. This is not the team that i grew up watching and enjoying . It will never be a number one team ever again . I think Ron Dennis would be shaking his head and thinking what have they done done to my boy , they massacred my boy . Sad

@paulkiarie

5 жыл бұрын

Never.. Is a bit fatalistic. Things do turn around.

@Euclides287

5 жыл бұрын

He's the one who caused the problem by *bad mouthing* Honda at every opportunity. It's Mclaren that need to get rid of him. Not the other way round.

@robinhooduk8255

5 жыл бұрын

@paul ron dennis WAS mclaren. its now an empty shell, full of hedgefunders living off past history they had nothing to do with.

@ciaronsmith4995

5 жыл бұрын

@@robinhooduk8255 Exactly. The soul of the company was crushed the day Dennis left. My favorite team is basically dead. Alonso is a MONG. Ruins McLaren everytime he gets a chance as far as I'm concerned.

Alonso has always said he wants to win with McLaren. He's resigned himself to the fact he was never going to win the F1 championship with McLaren, but would really like to win the Indy 500 with them if at all possible.

the car is tricky to get a hold of and that is where they failed. plus it shows you the skill and talent of Indy car.

Autosport hadn’t been able to make any videos bashing mclaren recently until now and is the first time they have mentioned mclaren since testing predictions!

if you add up matt and tom's facial hair, you get 1 full beard

@aydankhaliq2967

2 жыл бұрын

This is why I check comments.

He Needs to run full time! You cant expect to beat guys like dixon or newgarden just being a part time driver. the talent is just to damn good in indycar

@fabiobalenzano6439

5 жыл бұрын

he was 5th and climbing and led several laps last year when his Honda blew up. All he needs is a serious team being, like Castroneves does with Penske.

@quattro4468

5 жыл бұрын

No offence but that japanese driver who won indycar a year or 2 ago was last place for most of his f1 career. Even 19yo f1 drivers would be elite indy drivers.

I think McLaren and Alonso should look to do a full season next year.

@mikehergenroether6160

5 жыл бұрын

No way. Alonso needs to latch on with an established team if he's to do full time. Let Mclaren use Vandoorne or another Indy driver to languish for a year while they learn the series.

Fernando would easily be the top talent in Indycar if he joined, maybe Dixon and a couple more near to his level. If he really wants to win the Triple Crown, three words: Penske, Andretti, Ganassi.

LOL Nice serving of humble pie for McLaren and Alonso. As for winning on Sunday. I would prefer for it to be one of the smaller teams, such a win will boost stem both financially and confidence wise which should carry over to the rest of their season.

@fabiobalenzano6439

5 жыл бұрын

What is wrong with you? Alonso spoke only great things about Indy for the past two years, how does he deserve moronic comments like yours?

@bzdtemp

5 жыл бұрын

@@fabiobalenzano6439 Sure, they said the right things but really they went in sort of expecting it to be easy ie. putting in a half assed effort and that goes for both Alonso and McLaren. Now they learned that Indy isn't just an automatic win because you're a F1 team or a former F1 WDC. Zach Brown, McLaren CEO, has been refreshingly open about all the mistakes they made and that he may not have given their Indy project enough attention.

Just go and watch David Land's video

I agree about pagenaud and herta. two to watch for sure...

Trying to qualify in a McLaren was a joke. McLaren is inconsequential in F1 and Indy racing.

Alonso being a gateway for the world into indy500

@Changesonemack

5 жыл бұрын

The world has known of Indy for a hundy, bub. Maybe not u, but da world.

@mohammadhazim981

5 жыл бұрын

@@Changesonemack I didn't mean it literally

It's because of HONDA Oh wait......

The biggest problem fernando has is Maclaren. He is a fantastically talented driver that always gets 110% out of cars he drives, he is also super adaptable to different cars at an instant but if the car is not even close nobody can make it win(or clasify)

Organization, or the lack of it hurt them the most. Fact is, I want to see McLaren do well. But this was a domino effect story. Having a car that wasn't painted the right colour and wasn't ready????? Come on McLaren. The race deserves better and so too does the brand.

Arrogance coupled with incompetence

McLaren should part company with Alonso. He has done them no favours [had he confronted the GP2 chassis, McLaren might be currently in RedBull's position] and Zak Brown should not be taking them into Indy, their 500 approach has shown their organisational issues go deeper and higher than ever.

I hate to point this out, but McLaren is at best, a mid pack F1 team, so it's quite arrogant to think they could show up to Indy, and compete with teams that race all season. Or, think that a driver can make up for any short comings. I am from the U.S. and love F1, and Alonzo. We would love for him to come here full time, but why come with a mid pack team?

That's awesome! They got Austin Powers to give commentary.

You should do your thing as a podcast.

What went wrong ? McLean hubris, definitely needs to go to a top team and hopefully win.

INDY LIGHTS ENGINE, INDY LIGHTS ARGH!!!

@TMJ32

5 жыл бұрын

His mechanics were a bunch of utter morons. It's unbelievable McLaren thought they could show up with that pack of idiots and still make the race. They forgot to buy a steering wheel before his first test for christ sake.

@crystalracing4794

5 жыл бұрын

@@TMJ32 I read an article by Jenna Fryer and I still can't believe the lack of preparation that went this. Even Buddy Lazier's teams have done better prep haha.

Seems McLaren were not content with their embarrassing F1 performances, and felt the need to show their incompetence in other series...

I was the Honda F1 social media guy in 2017, so as someone who suffered that year, primarily down to Alonso's bad mouthing of Honda (to the point that I got a few death threats during the season) it gives me enormous pleasure to see karma coming back to bite Alonso hard. He may be a double world champion but he is not a gentleman racer and he deserves everything he hasn't got.

@breakdim

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed bro 💯

Apparently Zak Brown admitted yesterday (but no mention of it in this report by the kiddies of Autosport), that they had the wrong gear ratios (shorter 5th probably), so couldn't hit higher speeds on the straights (does look like Alonso grabs 6th in places). 6th gear is so long that there's no acceleration unless you are in a tow.

@MrMicrolin

5 жыл бұрын

It just endless excuses with mclaren

He must be the most loyal driver ever, even if, as in the last few years, that was at the expense of any chance of success. Surely there have to be limits to loyalty if it's clear that the team you're so loyal to has no chance at all?

Alonso just needs to totally disassociate himself from McLaren and start new. Since his relationship with McLaren has come the decline of Alonso he should of realised this a while ago

@phoenix0282

5 жыл бұрын

money

@hewjohn2908

5 жыл бұрын

@@phoenix0282 you know what, I genuinely forgot about that lmao, TRUE!!!

@phoenix0282

5 жыл бұрын

Abu Aiman Yes me too I often forget that. It’s often forgot in the media and Alonso never mention that. It’s taboo. And Concerning Indy car, no teams can pay 💰 a driver with this kind of cash like these few rich F1 🏎 teams.

Don't count Andretti racing out, they looked very good on the tow charts in practice, I think Rossi has a really good shot.

Did Autosport pick Alonso to win? That would explain why he did so poorly.

They call it the month of May because of the Indy GP as well...

As someone who knows nothing about indy, how can it be so hard to set up a car to go fast literally in a circle even with reduced running

@houstonharwood7197

5 жыл бұрын

So think about this logically. Think how small the marginal gains are on a track like Indy. Everyone will be taking roughly the same line, and trying to never lift the throttle. So the setup of the car becomes absolutely crucial to gain a competitive advantage, and this is heightened by the limited areas of development for the teams. Because qualifying is a four lap average speed, maintaining a high minimum corner speed is CRUCIAL. This minimum speed is what allows you to go really, really quick on the straights. For example, Ed Carpenter's team wasn't dipping below 227mph in the corners, and was hitting 238mph on the straights. The Mclaren was dipping below 223mph in the corners and was only hitting 235mph no the straights. Add that difference up over a four lap average, and your time is way down compared to the fast cars, despite both cars taking roughly the same line and staying flat out the whole way. Indy is the equivalent of taking 130R at Suzuka four times a lap, at over 225mph in the corners every time. It is by no means a simple fact of "driving in a circle." The air temperature, the wind, where the sun is shining, where the tires fall off, how much or how little down force you run, what kind of gurney flaps you run on the front wing, what kind of stagger you use on the suspension, damper setup, gearing (super important), there are so many factors at play. Very easy to have a "good car" and just be slow, because any one of those factors isn't working perfectly with the weather, track temp, tires, etc.

@Delimon007

5 жыл бұрын

try it sometime, every 0.010 of a second counts. i know that feeling.

You just don't show up and make the Indy field.......other teams have years of experience and data

@fabiobalenzano6439

5 жыл бұрын

That is a good lesson for McLaren. Alonso did just show up last year and was at the front the whole race until Honda blew up

@lukasgarage956

5 жыл бұрын

@@fabiobalenzano6439 but he was with a top team

It's Alonso, why is he wasting time with McLaren and Carlin??? He should be able to get a top seat for a season without any question!

@phoenix0282

5 жыл бұрын

money

@weallfollowmanutd

5 жыл бұрын

Honda must be laughing their heads off. Cant help but feel it's deserved.

@neustrasen1980

5 жыл бұрын

@@weallfollowmanutd ikr he moaned so much now honda deny him LOL KARMA

@weallfollowmanutd

5 жыл бұрын

Alonso will probably slag off Carlin to the press, then next year Carlin win the Indy 500. 😂🤣

@ACatKrom

5 жыл бұрын

Honda wont let one of their engines power a car he's in, after all the shit talking he's done. He's so cocky he thinks he doesn't want to run the entire season, thinks he can just waltz in and win Indy.

Alonso, its Rob... Kaiser is faster than you, confirm you understand.

@fabiobalenzano6439

5 жыл бұрын

Team McLaren......Juncos Racing team was able to provide their driver with a better car than yours after wrecking it on friday.....

... ...now we can fight!...

@MatthewLee8383

5 жыл бұрын

Car feels good. Much slower than the year before. Amazing.

@JESUSisComingBackSoon-ue9pc

5 жыл бұрын

@@MatthewLee8383 ...much slower than 2017!...

I hope McLaren comes back and does a full season with Indycar. That way they can give Alonso a good car and Indycar can gain a new manufacturer

@Hayden3210

5 жыл бұрын

New team, not manufacturer

How Alonso's Indy 500 attempt failed: He didn't qualify. Simple lol

Ed sheeran looking nice

If Alonso would join Indycar fulltime it would be the biggest move since Mansell.

Andretti car was at the Andretti level. Carlin car was at Carlin level. Only difference is in bloody hype. Again. No way i'll stop supporting McLaren,but for fk sakes,you need a time to recover after Honda project failed,do hard work,don't do too much hype.

"AnDReTti dOEsn'T UNdeRStaND tHe cOmPLexiTIEs Of FOrmULa ONe." Meanwhile at McLaren

As Jim Clark said in 1964, “taking the entire month of may to do one race is probably unwise”

McLaren should put ALL their resources into F1. It was always going to be a mess the minute they diverted their attention to something else other than their primary goal - to win races in F1. Zak Brown is a fool.

@followthegrow108

5 жыл бұрын

They should have left f1 3 yrs ago and saved the money to develope the new gen of f1 cars. Smh

I cant be the only one who thought Tom was Ed Sheeran on first glace.

Yes, that was quite a surprise....They could have used the last years car and would have been faster.

If you think you're going to come to Indy because you're a star in F1 and dominate, well, you're a joke. Penske, Andretti, Ganassi, hell, Ed Carpenter racing will show you the door. I laugh at all the "It's only an oval" nonsense - shows their ignorance about Indy and racing in general. Better luck next time. BTW, I'd actually like to see Alonso pull off the Triple Crown, but Indy is more difficult than the other two races. You're ON YOUR OWN out there at Indy. No team orders, no class driving, it's YOU and YOUR machine for 500 miles at 230mph and one tiny slip and you're in the wall hard - GOOD LUCK.

@TOFKAS01

5 жыл бұрын

"If you think you're going to come to Indy because you're a star in F1 and dominate, well, you're a joke" Not "dominate" but F1-drivers normaly had an advantage over most of the other drivers. Jim Clark, Graham Hill, Emmerson Fittipaldi, Nigel Mansell....even Eddie Cheever and Takuma Sato.

lets out a glib "ha" while rubbing chin like ron dennis.

This was about Mclaren's history from day 1. Not Alonso's. IF the car wasn't such a piss poor effort, the Spaniard would've been minimum fast 9. Even Gil is questioning Mclaren's commitment. #alonso

His wants to be like Mario Andretti however his ego is too big not sure he'll ever be able to do it in my opinion.

Sometimes things like this happen for a reason...…………………….

@seth_5394

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Cummings London - yes, and that reason is improper planning

Didn't know Ed Sheeran liked motorsport.

So for Alonso If he wants to keep doing LeMans and other races like that and still do the indy 500, then I would put it like Tiger woods and golfing. He needs to pick 5-10 races in the series and race themincluding the indy 500. Get used to the car, get used to the competition, get used to the unique issues of indy car. If that means leaving McLaren then so be it.

Raikkonen jumped in a NASCAR and finished top 15 at Charlotte. That's insane. I'm sure Kimi could have made the cut with minimal preparation in Indy. Yes, McLaren dropped the ball as a team, but Alonso binned it in the wall in practice. All of them choked and failed under pressure.

@Daviluxoful

5 жыл бұрын

Ciaron Smith Alonso qualified 5th in 2017. Both Alonso and Raikkonen are great drivers. Yes Alonso hit the wall but did you notice how much understeer the car had. He was consistently correcting the steering wheel like he was driving a rallycar.

@ciaronsmith4995

5 жыл бұрын

@@Daviluxoful Alonso had the best car in the field in 2017. Or one of them. Like I said it was both Alonso and McLaren's failure. Can't just blame one of them. Fernando still got outqualified by Kimball who was his teammate so that's that.

@Delimon007

5 жыл бұрын

When your car fails, that's not your fault, and better drivers have died from car failures because of the people who put the car together.

@rumblefish9

3 жыл бұрын

Ciaron Smith Wow you're impressed with top 15? lol Alonso WON Daytona 24h and LeMans 24 H 2x. Also came in 13 at the Dakar Rally. That's better than Kimi was able to do in his entire time with the WRC. Alonso also got a podium in his 3rd rally race lol keep trying troll.

Yes, that was quite a surprise....they could have used the last years car and would have been faster.

McKrapren! F1 disaster & now Indycar. New record! Ever since Dennis left & no Merc partnership the downward spiral started.

McLaren is hurting

Jenson Button said it all when he equated assets devoted to road cars took them away from race cars.

@TMJ32

5 жыл бұрын

They don't have good people in their organization anymore. People that know how to make a race car go fast. People that know how to make one run. People that know how to put a team together that can perform and execute. This Indy project has hurt McLaren's reputation more than the last 5 years in Formula One combined. They don't have a scapegoat. This was 100% a McLaren operation and they blew it like they were a group of people going racing for the very first time. If you're a sponsor, and you're watching this team make errors like converting inches to mm wrong, and putting the wrong gearing in the car for an Indy 500 qualifying run, why the hell would you want anything to do with them? You're just associating your brand with a bunch of incompetent dipsticks.

Why the surprise McLaren haven't been on the pace for years.

Even with a well established team, I don't think Alonso would have won. It's only his 2nd time in oval racing. That said he's an excellent driver, so he would be able to adapt fast into oval racing.

@shuklachetan1909

5 жыл бұрын

He is a top notch natural racing driver and oval racing is much easier for him than F1. Don't you remember the 2017 where at one time he was leading the race and the moments before his engine blew, his team said they are going for win.

@doolindanger2459

5 жыл бұрын

@@shuklachetan1909 Oval racing is not easier. It is more difficult as it is PACK racing, with tons of over taking. Just because Indy is 4 left turns doesn't make it "easier" - in fact, as Mario Andretti has said, turn one at the start of Indy is the most difficult turn in all of racing. - I'll trust Mario, he's won in EVERYTHING and EVERYWHERE.

"What would you guys advise that he should do next? Should he come back to the race, and if so how should he go about it?" How about entering the whole season properly with a team dedicated to the series, like everyone else, i.e. like Mansell did, rather than dropping in like Mary Poppins and expecting to win it just like that?

@frozenchips9215

5 жыл бұрын

AndreiTupolev They should open up another seat and perhaps try to get Ocon, Hartley, Vandoorne or maybe even Ericsson, that way they can build up experience and have reliable drivers.

@nsl888

5 жыл бұрын

@@frozenchips9215 Ericsson is already in IndyCar this year.

Those american Indy cars are much better looking than F1 cars these days. But i agree that Alonso should boot McLaren and try to get best car for racing in Indy. He also should try to reapir his relationship with Honda, because Honda is the winning engine in USA

I,m going to support Helio and Ed Carpenter :)

So Alonso's new name is bubbles.

Hey Alonso what about those GP2 engines?

Fucking hilarious after the way Alonso and McLaren slagged off Honda.