How a cyclops could see in 3D

Just because a cyclops has one eye doesn't mean he can't judge distance.
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This one is a bit cross-genre. It isn't really about fantasy monsters, nor role-play gaming, but it is more an exercise in speculative biology, with a bit of light physics thrown in. How could a one-eyed creature judge distance? I suggest seven methods, all of which use the eye itself. You could add sonar and the like, but that, I considered, wasn't playing the game.
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  • @MegaMirza2000
    @MegaMirza20006 жыл бұрын

    How many levels of nerd is this?

  • @heresy8384

    @heresy8384

    6 жыл бұрын

    40k

  • @musicalaviator

    @musicalaviator

    6 жыл бұрын

    D24 +2 bonus to nerdiness

  • @viktro546

    @viktro546

    6 жыл бұрын

    enough for us to enjoy his intelligence

  • @soulless1999

    @soulless1999

    6 жыл бұрын

    All of them.

  • @PlantOutofPot

    @PlantOutofPot

    6 жыл бұрын

    Robin Gilliver that's not what he said

  • @Brikkwall
    @Brikkwall6 жыл бұрын

    Saturday. Single. Alone. Watching theory on cyclops eyes. Not a young person anymore. I'm fucked.

  • @kknots

    @kknots

    6 жыл бұрын

    You are not*

  • @occultsoundscapes

    @occultsoundscapes

    6 жыл бұрын

    Brikkwall start exercising. Take steroids. Thank me in a few years.

  • @longlostwraith5106

    @longlostwraith5106

    6 жыл бұрын

    Stop feeling depressed about this fact and start feeling relieved. You have no idea how lucky you are to not have to answer to an entitled bitch every day.

  • @basedbattledroid3507

    @basedbattledroid3507

    6 жыл бұрын

    Brikkwall We're all alone together.

  • @ScienceDiscoverer

    @ScienceDiscoverer

    6 жыл бұрын

    LongLostWraith well that depends on the "bitch"... Some luckers get soulmates and live in heaven!

  • @ulfsark78
    @ulfsark786 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't until No.4 I realized that those weird shapes were suppose to be numbers..... I thought they were some sort of simple diagram of the eye you were describing!

  • @nunyabiznis3595

    @nunyabiznis3595

    6 жыл бұрын

    glad i'm not the only one

  • @carpetsomething

    @carpetsomething

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ye same here

  • @8wing73

    @8wing73

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @richardpatterson4312

    @richardpatterson4312

    5 жыл бұрын

    ditto

  • @rjhobbes6441

    @rjhobbes6441

    5 жыл бұрын

    took me to number 7! lol

  • @elvancor
    @elvancor6 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts: "Please tell me that isn't your own sphincter you photoshopped on your face." Lindy: "Yes I used myself as a model again. Why shouldn't I?"

  • @imk2007

    @imk2007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh no

  • @basmoid

    @basmoid

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

  • @noobpro9759

    @noobpro9759

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gotta be careful of the asseye cyclops. They stink to high heaven.

  • @daturner1985
    @daturner19856 жыл бұрын

    I only have one functioning eye, I tend to rock back and forth when I stand...maybe I'm subconsciously adjusting my depth perception.

  • @jasondoe2596

    @jasondoe2596

    6 жыл бұрын

    Chef David, interesting!

  • @usopatorbobby4865

    @usopatorbobby4865

    5 жыл бұрын

    One eyed since a baby and I don't do this since its useless maybe you have parkinsons

  • @Gnurklesquimp

    @Gnurklesquimp

    5 жыл бұрын

    How would this not be useful? Like, I get that not straining your neck is usually better than gauging depth, but if you wanna gauge depth.. hey, there ya go. Just a small sway from one side to the other would probably suffice in most cases though

  • @Gnurklesquimp

    @Gnurklesquimp

    5 жыл бұрын

    I imagine if you can't gauge depth by using multiple perspectives though, you'll get better at simply coordinating your body by ''feeling it'', like when you pick up a glass of water instead of smashing it into the wall behind it. That's probably even more the case if you were born with it, or at least have had TONS of time to adjust.

  • @randy9865

    @randy9865

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@usopatorbobby4865 ok dude. Bit presumptuous

  • @PXCharon
    @PXCharon6 жыл бұрын

    "Oonta goota Odysseus?" "Yes Polyphemus, as a matter of fact I was just going to see your boss. Tell Scylla I've got his money."

  • @bobrobert1123

    @bobrobert1123

    6 жыл бұрын

    PXCharon very cool

  • @lindybeige

    @lindybeige

    6 жыл бұрын

    Odysseus stabbed first!

  • @bobrobert1123

    @bobrobert1123

    6 жыл бұрын

    Where is everybody? This was a good joke!

  • @vaclav_fejt

    @vaclav_fejt

    6 жыл бұрын

    "Troy isn't indestructible. There's a ventilation shaft. A company of soldiers wouldn't go through there, but a hollow wooden horse would."

  • @zeddtheguru2882

    @zeddtheguru2882

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hey, I liked it.

  • @DeSinc
    @DeSinc4 жыл бұрын

    that thing about peripheral vision actually being black and white.. I can't see how that's true, because I just tested it and I can see any colour from a random colour generator in my very furthest peripheral vision at all edges around my vision with just about normal accuracy. it's slightly harder to tell the exact shade before I look directly at it but I can still tell very well what colour it is no matter what brightness or hue etc. am I missing something with that one?

  • @subrsubrr334

    @subrsubrr334

    3 жыл бұрын

    I tested the same thing and I couldn't tell the color lol

  • @EEPROM42

    @EEPROM42

    3 жыл бұрын

    DeSinc on a Lindy vid?

  • @swedneck

    @swedneck

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just tested this as well, and at the *very* edge of my perception it gets quite difficult to tell anything other than which primary color it leans more towards. For example teal will just make me go "blue" or "green" depending on the brightness.

  • @myparceltape1169

    @myparceltape1169

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you notice the colours changing to greys after the light levels are right down?

  • @stephencampbell2735

    @stephencampbell2735

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting... I'll have to test this..

  • @jan_kisan
    @jan_kisan6 жыл бұрын

    12:50 "Yes I use myself as a model"... Wait... I hope... only the face part?.. Can I please have this thought deleted...

  • @titanashinsuke1901

    @titanashinsuke1901

    3 жыл бұрын

    Huh

  • @MelchiahTheObscene
    @MelchiahTheObscene6 жыл бұрын

    That thumbnail image is the stuff of nightmares... Oh god, there are more!

  • @MikhaelAhava

    @MikhaelAhava

    6 жыл бұрын

    Melchiah The Obscene Lol

  • @Strategiusz

    @Strategiusz

    6 жыл бұрын

    It scared the hell out of me when I saw it in my subscription feed.

  • @MrGreekACE

    @MrGreekACE

    6 жыл бұрын

    said the rotting "vampire" :P

  • @mangoretheogre4178

    @mangoretheogre4178

    6 жыл бұрын

    did he use his own anus for the model?

  • @PacopicooftheDuty

    @PacopicooftheDuty

    6 жыл бұрын

    It gave me an erection

  • @Torquemada71.
    @Torquemada71.6 жыл бұрын

    I don't think there is anything he could make a video on and have it turn out to be boring

  • @dard1515

    @dard1515

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like a challenge

  • @neilwilson5785

    @neilwilson5785

    6 жыл бұрын

    If he tried to do a boring video, it would be inherently interesting.

  • @jan_kisan

    @jan_kisan

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Neil Wilson every number is interesting, yeah xD

  • @GnarledStaff

    @GnarledStaff

    6 жыл бұрын

    Don Hart Maaybe if the sound broke? Maybe.

  • @Maeyanie
    @Maeyanie6 жыл бұрын

    This is going to be a bit of a long comment, but here goes... #4 wouldn't work very well. Aside from the blind spot you mentioned, the "stalk" would be getting a reverse telephoto effect. The main lens would be focusing light far behind it, so the small lens would have a heavy fish-eye effect, making for terrible depth perception. Overall, I think this would be worse off than the traditional single-eye cyclops. #5 might work, but the faceted eyes of a spider give it terrible vision (aside from noticing motion) because it's so hard for the poor little thing to figure out. A cyclops would presumably be smarter than a spider, so maybe it would do better. #6 wouldn't work at all. For human-sized eyes, our focal distance falls off to infinity very quickly. At 25 cm, the focal length is 4 diopters, at 1 meter it's 1, and at infinity it's 0. So you only get maybe 2 meters out of that before it gets indistinguishable. A cyclops-sized eye might get 4 or 5 meters, but that's still relatively useless for throwing. #7 would have the same problem as #6, focal depth just doesn't work far enough to be useful. You can see it in the picture of the dog you showed; the only real depth planes are the ball (very close), the dog (pretty close), and everything else. However, all of this is ignoring the real problem. Human stereoscopic vision only works out to about 6 meters or so, because after that the parallax gets too small for the distance our eyes are apart. Anything at a useful throwing distance is just our brain guessing based on known sizes of objects anyhow. So a cyclops wouldn't actually be significantly worse off just having one eye.

  • @jimvargaco.6344

    @jimvargaco.6344

    6 жыл бұрын

    That makes sense, however, the "stalk" would work essentially like the mechanism by which a camera lens focuses. With a giant pupil the depth of focus on the eye of a cyclops would be much shallower than on our own eyes , so close and far objects would be very blurred while objects in a small area would be in focus. By moving that stalk inside the eye could change it's focal length, thus allowing the cyclops's vision to pull off something of an auto focus effect which, much like on an optical range finder, would give it a sense of depth

  • @0whatman

    @0whatman

    5 жыл бұрын

    wouldnt the increase in the view distance be exponential to the increase in eye size? like I dont get why number 6 doesmt work in ur opinion

  • @klevin93

    @klevin93

    4 жыл бұрын

    Added to which the muscles required to support stalks and enable movement would further worsen 4

  • @verrybrainie

    @verrybrainie

    4 жыл бұрын

    I even dont think 5 will work as it works like 4. Ore it works becouse the eyes are so big. But so you are back to 1 and 2. Optics is not his main thing. Keeping my intrest is more his talent. Ore you if you still read this Loyd.

  • @KingOfTheUnderdogs

    @KingOfTheUnderdogs

    3 жыл бұрын

    But, comparing the vision of our two eyes is not so different. At 25 cm, they are quite different but at infinity they're the same. Our eyes are actually pretty close, you wouldn't see a difference while looking at a mountain far away. Focal depth thing could work just like our eyes.

  • @bokehintheussr5033
    @bokehintheussr50334 жыл бұрын

    I love that Lindybeige spends his time really thinking deeply about this stuff.

  • @ghostmutton
    @ghostmutton6 жыл бұрын

    I like this mythological theorycrafting.

  • @MrPatrizzo
    @MrPatrizzo6 жыл бұрын

    As an optometrist, with at least a bit of knowledge of visual perception, I think this is one of your best videos. I bit superflous(?), as there are numerous proofs that one eyed beings have depth perception, but still very funny and your theories are not bad. 👍

  • @SteveHodge
    @SteveHodge6 жыл бұрын

    Wikipedia lists over a dozen monocular depth cues our brains already make use of, e.g. accommodation. It seems more likely that cyclops brains would have developed to maximise the use of those depth cues rather than developing a more elaborate eye structure.

  • @rickkarrer8370

    @rickkarrer8370

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes! I'm blind in one eye since birth, and have no issues at all.

  • @UnholyTerra

    @UnholyTerra

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mate of mine lost vision in one eye, within a few months his brain(I guess?) started to adapt to it. I don’t know the science behind that stuff, but it’s pretty cool.

  • @DavidBrunerstevenhub
    @DavidBrunerstevenhub6 жыл бұрын

    "it doesn't have an iris to limit the light going in and out of the eye" great, now all I can think of is a cyclops with a headlight for an eyeball

  • @CraftQueenJr

    @CraftQueenJr

    5 жыл бұрын

    David Bruner me too.

  • @sirromanov3038

    @sirromanov3038

    5 жыл бұрын

    That would help it see in dark areas I'm sure.

  • @myparceltape1169

    @myparceltape1169

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like cats eyes.

  • @kstringer24
    @kstringer246 жыл бұрын

    People with one eye can drive. They use focus to determine depth.

  • @nicolainielsen7700

    @nicolainielsen7700

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not in Denmark.

  • @heinekenskywalker8115

    @heinekenskywalker8115

    6 жыл бұрын

    kstringer24 I'm blind in my left eye, I can drive. But there are rules.

  • @notsnarky_5604

    @notsnarky_5604

    6 жыл бұрын

    Heineken Skywalker Those being?

  • @heinekenskywalker8115

    @heinekenskywalker8115

    6 жыл бұрын

    TheSnarkKnight _ I can't drive as anything bigger than 3.5 ton, so no worries and such. Can't join ANY of the armed forces, can't be a paramedic, can't be a fireman.

  • @heinekenskywalker8115

    @heinekenskywalker8115

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lorries*

  • @jannisopel
    @jannisopel5 жыл бұрын

    I love the prism approach. You can make it an important ingredient for an aiming device, for science or magic that needs to be harvested with great effort. Many stories are possible with that.

  • @elliejohnson2786
    @elliejohnson27866 жыл бұрын

    >Knows plural of Cyclops >Doesn't know plural of Man of War

  • @0whatman

    @0whatman

    5 жыл бұрын

    happens

  • @0whatman

    @0whatman

    5 жыл бұрын

    but it isnt "man of war" it is "man o war" haha

  • @sarasmr4278

    @sarasmr4278

    5 жыл бұрын

    So what is it?

  • @AvatarRiku

    @AvatarRiku

    5 жыл бұрын

    I’m fairly certain the plural would be Man o Wars, assuming Saints Row 4’s grammar lesson about the plural of Veteran Child was accurate

  • @dalebannon8503

    @dalebannon8503

    4 жыл бұрын

    Men o war

  • @r.k9441
    @r.k94416 жыл бұрын

    These are the questions we need answered

  • @DVHeld
    @DVHeld6 жыл бұрын

    #3 is called "parallax"

  • @Oxnate

    @Oxnate

    6 жыл бұрын

    Which number 3?

  • @DVHeld

    @DVHeld

    6 жыл бұрын

    The "moving around" one haha

  • @ashleyteece4237

    @ashleyteece4237

    6 жыл бұрын

    Dusan Andrés Vilicic Held post of them including ours work because of that.

  • @DVHeld

    @DVHeld

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, basically depth perception (for humans at least) is based on parallax motion. That's true

  • @ChronusZed

    @ChronusZed

    6 жыл бұрын

    No, since it's a cyclops it would be just one llax.

  • @blanksymortimer4088
    @blanksymortimer40886 жыл бұрын

    I've always hated how Cyclops looks. Just one human eye on the bridge of the nose.

  • @blanksymortimer4088

    @blanksymortimer4088

    6 жыл бұрын

    I always imagine the eyes of sea creatures because they can be quite monstrous and makes sense lore wise as they are related to Poseidon.

  • @dextrodemon

    @dextrodemon

    6 жыл бұрын

    interesting, thanks.

  • @srjskam

    @srjskam

    6 жыл бұрын

    You could have one eye and two noses -> no problem with the bridge. But wouldn't really improve the looks...

  • @mrpandabear6532
    @mrpandabear65326 жыл бұрын

    Dear Lloyd, could you make a video named "What wins Wars" , where you discuss your opinion about what are the essentials to succeding in a major armed conflict? My take is: The skill, training and mindfulness of the soldiers - 10% The sheer amount of troops - 20% The tactics and strategy of the command - 30% The abillity to supply the war and have reliable supplylines - 40% And what you think of that sectioning?

  • @gudeshsahani123gmailcomgud8

    @gudeshsahani123gmailcomgud8

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ulysses and the Cyclops

  • @harrisonmcarthur7816
    @harrisonmcarthur78166 жыл бұрын

    how about "How Can Dragons Breath Fire and have 6 limbs when most creatures only have 4"

  • @peterahl6807

    @peterahl6807

    4 жыл бұрын

    Solving the number of limbs is simple, they're just really big insects. As for breathing fire... Maybe they're just all pyromaniacs with drinking problems.

  • @imk2007

    @imk2007

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@peterahl6807 or they do what the bombardier beetle does and spray a hot liquid

  • @illuindb
    @illuindb6 жыл бұрын

    A video I didn't know I wanted, but now that it's here, I must watch it before I do anything else.

  • @carlstein9278
    @carlstein92786 жыл бұрын

    Isn't the stalk thing from option 4 super dependent on the cyclops not moving to much? it's own inertia would be quite a problem. turn the head and the stalk just smacks in the side of the eyeball, BUT! you might say, the brain knows those movement in advance and counters them! that doesn't help if the cyclops gets pushed or stumbles. the cyclops would get dizzy super easy :/

  • @mathiasrryba

    @mathiasrryba

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeah, kinda.

  • @hiothezebra

    @hiothezebra

    6 жыл бұрын

    Better would be a lateral anchoring muscles, imo. Worse blind spot though.

  • @jordanf9257

    @jordanf9257

    6 жыл бұрын

    Well no actually there wouldn't be a blind spot, since the stuff the light is hitting is on the end of the stalk, meaning that anchoring muscles might work nicely and not create a blind spot... maybe... I do still feel like something wouldn't work there...

  • @martinstensvehagen9161

    @martinstensvehagen9161

    6 жыл бұрын

    The stalk could be attached to the sides with little muscular strings that stretch and contract to move it around

  • @SA-rb5xq

    @SA-rb5xq

    6 жыл бұрын

    But they'd be giant beasts with amazing depth perception so they'd rarely get pushed or stumble to the ground. Makes sense that it'd be a weakness if it did happen.

  • @BrendanBlake42
    @BrendanBlake426 жыл бұрын

    "Yes, I can have mirrors, and yes, I can have crystals!" Steady on, Liberace.

  • @Jebu911
    @Jebu9116 жыл бұрын

    I wish i had explaining skills like these. Amazing how interesting he makes cyclops eyes sound.

  • @maxximumb
    @maxximumb6 жыл бұрын

    Mr Beige. I was born with amblyopia, otherwise known as a lazy eye. Unfortunately back in those days, the corrective eye patch 'fix' did bugger all for me, other than a bit of cosmetic alignment. I don't have stereoscopic vision. Although I can see out of my left eye, my brain treats it like extended peripheral vision. It completely ignores it to the point I'm legally blind in my left eye. So for my entire life I've only ever seen the world out of my right eye. I've had many eye tests confirming I don't see stereo / 3D and any depth perception is intuitive rather than optically based. I'm effectively a Cyclops. I can confirm that all your theories are wrong. The human brain does fine with a single eye. Especially if it's never known any difference. I can judge depth and distance as well as the next Biclops. I'll admit that throwing weapons are not my forte, but that's more due to my proprioception, than depth of field. give me a ranged weapon, such as a bow, and I'll do well. I'd say my only visual weakness is forced perspective. As my brain uses an objects known size to determine distance as well as other clues. I don't see how that could be used against me in any meaningful way in combat. And as soon as you got in range of my club, then the field is level as forced perspective needs distance to work. Suffice to say. Any being with a brain with a similar visual cortex as a human, that was born with only a single eye, does fine without stereoscopic vision. We don't have to hunt like other predators with binocular vision. Our larger brains allow us to use traps to catch food or phone for pizza. If all else fails, collect some treasure and enough foolhardy adventurers will turn up on your door. Which is OK, as your average adventurer tastes a bit like kebab meat.

  • @subrsubrr334

    @subrsubrr334

    5 жыл бұрын

    Biclops lol

  • @pychohobo1832

    @pychohobo1832

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm the same way. Same eyes even. I have no problems with depth perception. And accaully do really well with distance targets. Better then most. I have no problem with throwing. Though I still can't get a sling down. But I don't think that is due to the single vision. Oh I don't like adventures, the taste like chicken. Now on the other hand I don't see 3D in a old 3d movie. Still think it a hoax everyone doesn't want to admit.

  • @SquidwardAF
    @SquidwardAF6 жыл бұрын

    modern browsers work without www in the beginning

  • @tohopes

    @tohopes

    6 жыл бұрын

    wwwhat are you talking about

  • @feldinho

    @feldinho

    6 жыл бұрын

    SquidwardAF the browser has nothing to do with it. the websites are smarter though, redirecting the user to right version (source: am developer & I use to remove the www in my projects).

  • @Meoiswa

    @Meoiswa

    6 жыл бұрын

    The www subdomain used to mean "this is the endpoint exposed to the rest of the world", it makes sense when you consider an enterprise having a domain (lets say "gogle.com") and many servers, most of which are for internal use ("work", "storage", "database", stuff like that) and one or a few servers exposed to the internet so third parties can access them ("mail", "www")

  • @recklessroges

    @recklessroges

    6 жыл бұрын

    I remember before www when it was web.example.com/.

  • @duckman12569

    @duckman12569

    6 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed his rant on www

  • @CarlStreet
    @CarlStreet6 жыл бұрын

    VERY creative -- you sir, are a master of thinking outside the box!

  • @basedbattledroid3507
    @basedbattledroid35076 жыл бұрын

    Might be weird to say this but; You look very Cyclopsy as a Cyclops.

  • @basedbattledroid3507
    @basedbattledroid35076 жыл бұрын

    I'm just laughing imagining Harryhausen movies if the big beasts walked forward and stepped on all of the main protagonists.

  • @CalicoThat
    @CalicoThat6 жыл бұрын

    Can someone make a 24 hour loop of what he does at 6:00

  • @jacobriddle7230

    @jacobriddle7230

    6 жыл бұрын

    Civilization ill try

  • @yaldabaoth2

    @yaldabaoth2

    6 жыл бұрын

    And add a sick beat to it.

  • @PlantOutofPot

    @PlantOutofPot

    6 жыл бұрын

    Civilization Also 12:27

  • @hxcAMBERhxc

    @hxcAMBERhxc

    6 жыл бұрын

    ♥ gifsound.com/?gif=i.imgur.com/UPruR8w.gif&v=EIozqGmvtfk&s=20

  • @Ashbakhaaz

    @Ashbakhaaz

    6 жыл бұрын

    @HansWorst I came in the comments just to say this.

  • 6 жыл бұрын

    Loved this video! I actually want to see answers for all the funny questions you've asked at the end, but I'd like it even more to see more theories and explanations like this one, that don't just say "It's magic."

  • @snozzmcberry2366
    @snozzmcberry23665 жыл бұрын

    The absolutely random hodgepodge of content on this channel is astounding, given you maintain such a high bar of quality. From how a cyclops could see in 3D to instructional videos on dancing. It's really something to behold, and I love it.

  • @farawaywayfarer7685
    @farawaywayfarer76856 жыл бұрын

    The depth perception will help them dodge incoming pommels

  • @ibrahimtaseer8208
    @ibrahimtaseer82086 жыл бұрын

    So this is what you stay up at night thinking about...

  • @VincentGonzalezVeg
    @VincentGonzalezVeg5 жыл бұрын

    when outdoors i hold a light off to the side of my head at an angle, jiggling back and forth, like how you talked about with the eye, and that movement aids with locating animals with reflective eyes, or glass on the ground, both great reasons to use those calories to move

  • @hrvojebartulovic7870
    @hrvojebartulovic78705 жыл бұрын

    You're right about this left-right head movement as a mean of increasing the depth perception; every time I see a one-eyed crane operator up there, I notice he moves his head left and right much more than one should expect!

  • @Stedman75
    @Stedman756 жыл бұрын

    Lindy, you should look at Jumping spiders eyes, (if you didnt already) they will fascinate you im sure.

  • @Duron0

    @Duron0

    6 жыл бұрын

    I agree. Jumping spiders are damn fascinating.

  • @lindybeige

    @lindybeige

    6 жыл бұрын

    Actually, I did, while researching this! Their eyes are something like 1/16th" apart and yet they judge distances well enough to jump. Spider eyes are fascinating in many ways. They are not just duplicates - each pair is sensing something different. The best spider eyes are not much worse than human eyes, despite being so tiny.

  • @Duron0

    @Duron0

    6 жыл бұрын

    Some species actually see bright colours sharper that us. Not bad for such a tiny fellow.

  • @xpluscollectorscrew

    @xpluscollectorscrew

    6 жыл бұрын

    another interesting fact about jumping spiders, they can plan ahead and make detours as they have good memory also they are very aware of those around them if you go close to them they'll arch their cephalothorax right towards you and that's because they know you are there....other spiders, etc. don't care...

  • @icemaiop
    @icemaiop6 жыл бұрын

    Imagine the poor cyclops being bullied in school. "Hey there big boy, you've got some ugly hemorrhoids on your eyelid sphincter!" :'(

  • @metatronyt
    @metatronyt6 жыл бұрын

    I gave you the like for the www abbreviation, it made my day xD

  • @mrkiky

    @mrkiky

    4 жыл бұрын

    You should abbreviate the "double you" to "d" then you have something easy to say -> ddd

  • @ckl9390

    @ckl9390

    3 жыл бұрын

    When I'm relating a web address I usually say "dub dub dub", or if someone isn't familiar with that shortcut "triple w".

  • @LawAndOrderCyraxxVictimsUnit

    @LawAndOrderCyraxxVictimsUnit

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dubya dubya dubya

  • @Mr_Jumbles
    @Mr_Jumbles4 жыл бұрын

    I literally just had to test that thing about not seeing color in your periphery and **** it's true. What I did was get some colored post it pads atleast 3-4 different colors, shuffle them while not looking, keep them hidden and pulled one into your hand behind your head, focus your vision on something directly in front of you and don't move it, slowly bring the post it around your head until you barely notice it in your periphery and stop. Now try to figure out the color of the pad. Usually it's a vague blur of "color" which I'm assuming is your brain trying to guess the color from the options it knows it could be. Once you bring it slightly more forward and "see" the color. You can move it back behind your head and try it again with the same pad and instead of seeing the "vague color" you instantly see the color vibrantly.

  • @AlexanderPetersPrime
    @AlexanderPetersPrime6 жыл бұрын

    The comment on peripheral color vision sounded suspect. I did some self-testing and found that I had no problems distinguishing randomly generated colors at near the edge of my vision. Some Googling around makes it look more like a persistent myth based on misquoted experiments, like the heat-from-the-top-of-your-head thing. I only spent a few minutes on it, though.

  • @Wetcorps

    @Wetcorps

    6 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to test and/or research that but was too lazy, thanks for going through the trouble :)

  • @Kaaxe

    @Kaaxe

    6 жыл бұрын

    remember being taught this was true in school and we tested it, mean nothing as there are a number of things we learned which are just myths like the tongue taste map thing.

  • @Kosaro1234

    @Kosaro1234

    6 жыл бұрын

    Alexander Peters We tested this in my psych class on me and I in fact could not tell what color it was (guessed wrong every time). Mind you, this only applies to the way outer edge, at the point where you can't be sure if something is there unless it's moving. The biological reason for this is that the edges of your eyes do not have any cones (color receptors) and only have rods (light/brightness receptors). Since rods are more sensitive than cones, if you ever been in a place so dark that you cannot see any colors but can just make out the shape of objects, you can see that at work. What your peripheral visions sees is similar to that but without the darkness.

  • @AlexanderPetersPrime

    @AlexanderPetersPrime

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm aware of the commonly held cause. As I said, this seems to be an old misconception or misunderstood experimental results. Some relevant writing: jov.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2193447 Much of the nuance here is beyond me, but he abstract claims that, "We found that chromatic detection gets worse with increasing eccentricity but is still possible even at large eccentricities."

  • @Beevil

    @Beevil

    6 жыл бұрын

    We actually tested it with pencils. There would be an array of 50 different coloured pencils, and someone else would pick one up without the test subject knowing which colour, and then slowly move it from behind their head toward their field of view, while the test subject would be fixed on a point in front of them. Once the test subject noticed a movement in their vision, they would give a signal and the pencil would stop. Then, while still looking forward they would try to guess the colour. They couldn't. Not saying it's definitely impossible to see colours at the edge of your vision, just that there might be some truth to the overall distribution of cones and rods, making it difficult to completely recognize colours, but easier to recognize movement.

  • @tmutant
    @tmutant6 жыл бұрын

    One huge eye would have a long focal length. Depth perception would come from rapidly changing focus. Schlock Mercenary Tuesday, April 29, 2008.

  • @JCSalomon

    @JCSalomon

    6 жыл бұрын

    schlockmercenary.com/2008-04-29

  • @GorillaZillas

    @GorillaZillas

    6 жыл бұрын

    Exactly what I was thinking throughout the entire episode, based off that very comic...

  • @GorillaZillas

    @GorillaZillas

    6 жыл бұрын

    Simplest solution is often the best

  • @sperzieb00n

    @sperzieb00n

    6 жыл бұрын

    using focus to gauge depth exists, its called light field imaging and doesn't even require a moving sensor. Certain kinds of spiders have light field eyes to see depth without stereoscopic vision.

  • @fredbloggs8072

    @fredbloggs8072

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep. Even with binocular vision, focus still plays a part in depth perception.

  • @Infernoraptor
    @Infernoraptor6 жыл бұрын

    To give further evidence for your 3rd theory: Real animals do that already. That's part of why owls bob and twist their heads around when looking at something (albeit that's both for seeing and hearing) as well as one hypothesis for why some animals tilt their heads when confused. Also, the Greedo eye theory is interesting; what if a cyclops eye uses the focus as a determination of distance? By moving the lense forward and back in the eye, the focus of the view would change based on the distance of the given sights. As for the crystal eyes, you forgot to mention that trilobite eyes are always one of the two specific shapes that result in a perfectly focused image regardless of range. The sphincter theory sounds like it'd look like a chameleon's eye Also, natural mirrors already occur in many animals eyes. The tapedum lucedum (not sure of the spelling) is what causes the eyes of crocs, cats, and a lot of others to glow at night and is essentially a mirror that bounces light into the retina to basically give a double exposure. One last thing: how can a head fit both a big head and big brain?

  • @johntowner1893
    @johntowner18934 жыл бұрын

    Oh I’m so glad you did the eye sphincter modelling. I thought that you got jack of it after the first few examples and was hoping it would show up as you described it.

  • @GaudiaCertaminisGaming
    @GaudiaCertaminisGaming6 жыл бұрын

    I think the opium pipe needs to go back in the cupboard.

  • @Madalovin
    @Madalovin6 жыл бұрын

    Watching him move his mouth around to give us some visualization was very amusing. I enjoy your content lindybeige, you warm my mythos loving heart. edit: Also I would like to see your suggestion on the Ents and Vampires mentioned at the end, those sound interesting, especially the vampire one. Would humidity have a factor? Would it all be like tiny insects? Ooo, wonders.

  • @cerberez
    @cerberez6 жыл бұрын

    The one I thought of was never mentioned. We use muscles to focus an image on the retina. Depending on their position/degree of flex, the brain can calculate how far away an object is. The only change happens to the sensitivity of that particular muscle. This has to be the most feasible way. Just as we know where our limbs are at space without looking, the eye can know how distant the focal point of the image is*. Maybe even now Humans could train to be better at this.

  • @Mike_of_the_Sonora
    @Mike_of_the_Sonora6 жыл бұрын

    i love these types of videos keep up the good work Loyd

  • @basedbattledroid3507
    @basedbattledroid35076 жыл бұрын

    What if the Cyclops had a form of Astigmatism that gave it two focus points that accurately created a mild double-vision effect, enabling him to see one object from two slightly different but similar angles? I like the sphincter design too. I also like the idea that they're more accurate in a cave, they probably rely on echolocation too. Although... maybe, like minotaurs aren't meant for hats and trolls/Jötunns aren't meant for sunbathing... maybe Cyclopaes aren't meant to use 3D glasses. Dwarves can smell in colour because they've come from beneath the Earth's core, they're both fascinated by seeing colour which is a shock to the system but also they've smelt the roots and minerals from the natural materials required to make colour. Zombies juggling depends on the freshness of the corpse and whether or not the brain can cope with it without getting hungry or losing track. I suppose the vampires would just... stay in solid form? Ents could form cavalry units if they... branch out... hehehheh... honestly I don't know. Rust monsters would need to frequently replace their irons, or otherwise get one with a plastic handle.

  • @ashwingautam3701
    @ashwingautam37016 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE this video. Thank you for making it :)

  • @pyalot
    @pyalot6 жыл бұрын

    the last one you are really bang on the money. depth queues can come from parallax (stereoscopic vision), or they can come from focal plane shifts. light field sensors capture a picture focused not just at one depth, but at many. this can be used to adjust focus after capture, but the present information can also be used to reconstruct a depth field. just as you can use photogrammetry (i.e. parallax) to reconstruct a depth field. so that would give you feasible single lens depth perception. though stereoscopy is probably better because its far simpler and depth field precision is only gated by how far the eyes are apart, whereas a light field eye would be gated by how many discrete microlenses it can cram over an area of retina.

  • @GreasyBeasty
    @GreasyBeasty4 жыл бұрын

    Lloyd you're my hero, using yourself as the example.

  • @MaximilianBrandt
    @MaximilianBrandt6 жыл бұрын

    If I would build an army of bio-engineered monsters... I would get Lindybeige on my team

  • @KanuckStreams
    @KanuckStreams5 жыл бұрын

    That "sphincter" style reminds me of how chameleons look.

  • @nerrock7094
    @nerrock70946 жыл бұрын

    This was a very good video. i really enjoy this kinda fantasy science thing, especially since i also am a DM it is very inspirational. Good work Lyod

  • @gordonburns8731
    @gordonburns87315 жыл бұрын

    I could listen to you all day. Brilliant, that man!

  • @MalcadorTheSigilite
    @MalcadorTheSigilite6 жыл бұрын

    Asking the real questions

  • @ProfessorNogginify
    @ProfessorNogginify6 жыл бұрын

    What if it was a bicyclops?

  • @willmcpherson2

    @willmcpherson2

    4 жыл бұрын

    But how would it see in mono

  • @gaijillahimself908
    @gaijillahimself9086 жыл бұрын

    All those suggestions at the end card are actually quite interesting. I want to see those videos!

  • @dontmindme9174
    @dontmindme9174 Жыл бұрын

    0:07 Lloyd you nearly gave me a heart attack

  • @CalistoCleaver
    @CalistoCleaver6 жыл бұрын

    This is super interesting. But has anyone considered that you don't necessarily need eyes to get a 3D picture in your mind of your surroundings. A Cyclops still has two ears right? The fact that the Cyclops spends a considerable amount of time in a dark cave would also suggest echo location would be far more useful, and plausible than relying entirely on stereoscopic vision. Just a thought. Really enjoy these mythological discussions!

  • @JasperBloodshy

    @JasperBloodshy

    5 жыл бұрын

    In The Odyssey, after he is blinded, Polyphemus uses sound locating to throw boulders at Odysseus's ship, and comes really close to hitting it.

  • @razzledazzle7776
    @razzledazzle77766 жыл бұрын

    Fucking hell Lindy I was not expecting this 😂

  • @Kewljack02
    @Kewljack026 жыл бұрын

    Lloyd is such the quintessential cool-uncle-with-an-encyclopedia-in-his-head person that it is hard to imagine him at age 14.

  • @yannickdeimel2000
    @yannickdeimel20006 жыл бұрын

    amazing video especialy the graphics and the thinking love it

  • @grant9855
    @grant98556 жыл бұрын

    Expected this to be a vsauce video or something

  • @kockovod7850
    @kockovod78506 жыл бұрын

    May i ask why do u have a picture of Jeor Mormont on your wall next to pictures of fauna and flora?

  • @judebreheny3925
    @judebreheny39253 жыл бұрын

    I love this kind of theoretical biology style of video, thanks!

  • @xephy3170
    @xephy31706 жыл бұрын

    Of the cyclopean eye models that you've posited, 5 and 6 are my favorites. Both are feasible, #5 is scary and realistic (it almost feels like a chameleon's eye with the outer wrinkly-bits at least from the outside), and #6 creates a feasible if fantastical reason for heroes and adventurers to go after and possibly hunt the cyclopes: if the eye-prism is of a hard-enough or lustrous material as I envision it, taking them as trophies and as a precious stone as a sort-of cyclopes-pearl would give them value -- Especially for larger specimens.

  • @MagicGonads

    @MagicGonads

    6 жыл бұрын

    6 is my favourite, I have to wonder if that kind of thing can be used in cameras (or is used in cameras)

  • @hellomate639

    @hellomate639

    11 ай бұрын

    6 physically doesn't work. The line that goes to the two retinas contains the same image. You need a separate hole for a second point of view.

  • @MerlijnDingemanse
    @MerlijnDingemanse6 жыл бұрын

    Hey nice sweater

  • @magentalizard1250
    @magentalizard12505 жыл бұрын

    "A GIANT BEAST OF MYTHOLOGY!" Unless they're an anime girl. Then they're just adorable.

  • @gavinjenkins899
    @gavinjenkins8996 жыл бұрын

    There are already creatures with one eye only looking at most of the scene they're seeing. Like deer. Or pigeons. They get depth perception from: moving the head around (birds always sort of bob their heads, like you said for the cyclops), occlusion (half a shape is behind the full shape), focusing on things at different distances (you don't need to constantly scan focus, you only have one target you care about generally), perspective (lines converge toward the horizon), atmospheric occlusion (like in a japanese landscape print, far away mountains and things are more washed out from air in between), size (you know how big a human is so if it's half size, it's probably twice as far away), and a bunch of others.

  • @timfondiggle2582
    @timfondiggle25823 жыл бұрын

    These type a of vids are my favorite from you lindy old pal

  • @RuneChaosMarine
    @RuneChaosMarine6 жыл бұрын

    i would have liked to see you consider, that goats, and octopus have quite unique iris, that are shaped like an x or a y or a T. if the cyclopse used a X with the axis on horizontal and verital acsis, with what ever muscles and stuff inside the eye, would create the depth. as the X will allow light from up down left and right in.

  • @RuneChaosMarine

    @RuneChaosMarine

    6 жыл бұрын

    i hope that you notice this, and take it into consideration. rust monsters are cool. though they are unable to eat magic enchanted metal if i am correct.... or gold? cuz that dont rust?

  • @xpluscollectorscrew

    @xpluscollectorscrew

    6 жыл бұрын

    most magic weapons can rust....it depends on the type of material used in their construction, or if magical measures were used to make them not rust..but that ultimately depends on the DM/GM :P

  • @spazzmaticus9086
    @spazzmaticus90866 жыл бұрын

    Sonic the hedgehog.

  • @valentinemcdermott

    @valentinemcdermott

    6 жыл бұрын

    Reference to the SSH gene?

  • @spazzmaticus9086

    @spazzmaticus9086

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm making a joke about how Sonic is a cyclopes with 2 iris's.

  • @WoM
    @WoM6 жыл бұрын

    Once I hit on Cyclops anatomy I'll have to direct viewers this video. Love how analytical you got with it, really do.

  • @NickRatRadio
    @NickRatRadio6 жыл бұрын

    I love how much thought you put into this :P

  • @rickeymariu1
    @rickeymariu16 жыл бұрын

    Hey Loyd. I only have 1 eye and my depth perception sucks most of the time.

  • @madisonxyz9887
    @madisonxyz98876 жыл бұрын

    If you are talking about a group: men of war. If you are talking about one man: man of war.

  • @eblackbrook

    @eblackbrook

    5 жыл бұрын

    He was talking about jellyfish.

  • @vincenturquhart1370

    @vincenturquhart1370

    3 жыл бұрын

    He was talking about a jellyfish

  • @jackalope2302
    @jackalope23026 жыл бұрын

    I've always liked the swaying motion of Harryhausen's Cyclops. It seemed very logical for a one eyed giant trying to look at quick little humans. Almost as awesome as the way it licks its lips while cooking

  • @zanej3988
    @zanej39883 жыл бұрын

    The bit at the end about different symmetries is super fascinating. Almost every animal on earth and basically all land animals are bilaterally symmetrical, like us. Its thought that the stability and strength that bilateral symmetry provides is needed for land locomotion. In the ocean, there is also radial symmetry, like jellyfish and starfish, and some animals with little to no symmetry, like sea sponges. There used to be another type of symmetry called fractal symmetry, that followed a fractal pattern like snowflakes.

  • @Raz.C
    @Raz.C6 жыл бұрын

    I think I just got 12k experience points for watching this vid. Thanks Lindy!!

  • @rickeymariu1
    @rickeymariu16 жыл бұрын

    On the same note. I use techniques devilped by the blind to function. As I am legally blind but not totally blind.

  • @rrteppo

    @rrteppo

    6 жыл бұрын

    I have lazy eye syndrome so my eyes don't even work together. I basically can only see out of 1 eye at a time. I never got why people can't grasp that you only need 1 eye to function.

  • @mistahsusan2650

    @mistahsusan2650

    6 жыл бұрын

    I still think that you two lack perspective.

  • @BainesMkII

    @BainesMkII

    6 жыл бұрын

    The rise of 3D movies revealed that there are people who have two seemingly perfectly fine eyes, but have little to no apparent depth perception.

  • @franzluggin398

    @franzluggin398

    6 жыл бұрын

    +Mistah Susan I see your pun, but it doesn't have much depth to it.

  • @drakeford3238

    @drakeford3238

    6 жыл бұрын

    Franz Luggin Personally, I thought it was visionary.

  • @anthonylivesay9339
    @anthonylivesay93396 жыл бұрын

    I'm so happy that you said this about the cyclops. I was born with a lazy eye (Amblyopia) and have tried to explain just what you are saying.

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack6 жыл бұрын

    One moment I'm listening to stuff about tanks and formations and whatnot, then about crap archery on telly and how fire arrows just don't work like in the movies, and next it's how a Cyclops could see in 3D with one eye. This is the best channel.

  • @mr.castle563
    @mr.castle5636 жыл бұрын

    THATS AN ELEPHANT SKULL YOU BLOODY FOOL

  • @shorelockhomes943

    @shorelockhomes943

    5 жыл бұрын

    Try telling whomever found an elephant skull and came up with said Cyclops theory. Good deduction though.

  • @gumbotime9564
    @gumbotime95644 жыл бұрын

    No one: Literally not a single person: Lloyd: what if a cyclopes had eyelids that were like buttholes?!

  • @haroldhahn7044
    @haroldhahn70444 жыл бұрын

    That pulsating lense is great idea, but it is the light that goes through the prisim that is divided, and the reflected light that forms the normal view.

  • @LarryPhischman
    @LarryPhischman6 жыл бұрын

    There's another way, Lindy: Organic lidar. The Cyclops could have coherent light emitting organs, effectively living laser diodes, somewhere on its head. They could even be built into the eye. In this case, depth perception would come from releasing a pulse of laser light, and timing how long it took for reflected light to bounce back. The further an object is away, the longer reflected light from it would take to return.

  • @breembo
    @breembo6 жыл бұрын

    Could you do a video on Naphtha grenades, and its uses (or lack there of) in most RPGs. Seems like it would be good weapon for an alchemist.

  • @Semightus

    @Semightus

    6 жыл бұрын

    I've never heard of a Naphtha grenade. It certainly sounds interesting so I might look into it later :)

  • @METALGEARMATRIX

    @METALGEARMATRIX

    6 жыл бұрын

    Calli Clark Alchemists fire?

  • @silver4831

    @silver4831

    6 жыл бұрын

    Alchemist's Acid seems usefull for lock destroying.

  • @breembo

    @breembo

    6 жыл бұрын

    yea basically a molotiv cocktail in a clay pot. was in use since the 8th century with the byzantines and middle east.

  • @deadbydayinblack

    @deadbydayinblack

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh you mean greek fire maybe.? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fire

  • @asherater223
    @asherater2235 жыл бұрын

    really ought to be "sextuple u" instead of "www"

  • @dylannolan7454
    @dylannolan74546 жыл бұрын

    I love the great courses. Strongly recommend them.

  • @Kevin-jb2pv
    @Kevin-jb2pv5 жыл бұрын

    I only have sight in one eye, and the head bobbing thing is something I do involuntarily when I'm trying to get fine depth perception. For the most part, linear perspective gets everything done, but when I'm trying to park in a small space, thread a needle, or something that requires accuracy I do mmbob my head (and I've been teased about it quite a lot)

  • @alexpowers3697
    @alexpowers36976 жыл бұрын

    Eyeball foreskin--wow--hadn't thought of that one. Hahahahah.

  • @red2theelectricboogaloo961

    @red2theelectricboogaloo961

    4 жыл бұрын

    eye circumcision

  • @rodneykelly8768
    @rodneykelly87686 жыл бұрын

    Instead of saying, "Double Ewe, Double Ewe, Double Ewe, Dot," you could say, "Triple Whisky, Dot," and be done with it.

  • @DathCoco
    @DathCoco4 жыл бұрын

    @3:40 This is how hubble does it. It waits till it is in a different position and that information is used to determine the distance to an object

  • @Tulbia
    @Tulbia5 жыл бұрын

    That's very thoughtful. Thanks for explaining that!

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