Hoverboard Hub Motor Modification

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As you probably know, Hoverboard Hub BLDC Motors are design to be slow in speed and high in torque. They are usually configured as a Wye (Y/Star) and this modification enables you to setup your motor as a Delta.
This tutorial is for who is planning to use Hoverboard Hub Motors for customised projects like 1WD, 2WD E-Scooters or even a 4WD E go-Kart where more speed is required. This modification can increase the speed as much as 3 times and can handle almost same torque.
Have a try! Worth it a lot!!
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  • @TallontedTinkering
    @TallontedTinkering8 ай бұрын

    This is super awesome. I built a few hub motor powered skateboards. I haven't quite wanted to go faster than its max (13 mph), but when I do, I'm definitely going to do this. Thanks

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks mate. I’m glad that this project helped yours somehow.

  • @Pgr-pt5ep
    @Pgr-pt5ep10 ай бұрын

    Thank you for showing this process. I use my homemade disc sander powered by one of these motors. But I have to use a higher voltage source to get more rpm. I'll have to change to delta config if I want to use my 25v portable battery pack directly.

  • @soundarpandian3423
    @soundarpandian34232 жыл бұрын

    Bro you're great bro whole day I searched for this video finally I found you

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope you can find useful info to help somehow with your projects…

  • @trygun3034
    @trygun303410 ай бұрын

    absolutely fantastic job this help so so much

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks buddy. Your comment keeps me motivated to carry on!

  • @gabrielmarin4300
    @gabrielmarin43002 жыл бұрын

    Cool! 😎 I have so many of this hoverboard motors laying around, now I am eager to modify one and experiment with it. Thanks for sharing! I'm going to subscribe to your channel. +1 Subscriber. Keep it up!

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m pretty sure you will not regret it!

  • @le_gamer_du_2632
    @le_gamer_du_26322 жыл бұрын

    and after you replace it on the hoverboard? and can we have the link of the green part?

  • @eriksonoliveira6981
    @eriksonoliveira6981 Жыл бұрын

    É muita inteligência. Parabéns, amigo.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    Valeu Erikson! Faça o projeto! Vale a pena…

  • @hussainbahram
    @hussainbahram2 жыл бұрын

    Very nice and interesting, hope you repeat the video with closer camera on the motor and more simple instructions for beginners like me. Thanks

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    With a multimeter and some knowledge on how to measure ohm or continuity, you can easily find the windings accordingly. I have tried to make this tutorial as simple as I could...

  • @Zephyrhellion

    @Zephyrhellion

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design you have no sound. SMH lol

  • @Rob337_aka_CancelProof
    @Rob337_aka_CancelProof Жыл бұрын

    Great job thank you for that I had not realized the performance could improve that much it's as if you bought an expensive e-bike motor and I had no idea that those little things had that much potential hiding inside of there, but then when I think about a hoverboard screaming like that with the modifications it would not have been a safe hoverboard (not even close) it would have been quite the little death trap wouldn't it have? Wow, and a helmet just wouldn't be adequate for keeping someone from injury, you'd need a 100 lb. Full body chainmail bodysuit if you hoped to keep any skin LMFAO 😊😅😂 Thanks for the awesome video and a mighty fine demonstration of how knowledge and understanding Beats ignorance every time even with all the worthless paper rectangles in the world to throw at it when it comes to realizing maximum potential. This unlocks a little secret for me because I had heard that Tongshen mid Drive kits in every tiar all use the same exact motor and now I know what that really means 😊 they're just configured differently and with the right modifications I can pretty much get the $1,500 one when I buy the $250 - $300 most basic one and unlock its potential. You have a new subscriber

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    What a great comment Robert! Thank you so much. You are a kind of person that brings motivation to me. I will try to finish the e-scooter middle frame and sort out the batteries. My problem now is time! Let’s see what happens this summer…take care buddy!

  • @josemorenoromero7897
    @josemorenoromero7897Ай бұрын

    Exelente video Eduardo, saludos 👍👍✌️✌️

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Ай бұрын

    Gracias amigo!

  • @mikolajlotysz
    @mikolajlotysz2 жыл бұрын

    Buen trabajo. Tienes un nuevo subscriptor.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gracias Nicolas!

  • @imnobody0034
    @imnobody00344 ай бұрын

    I'm guessing the delta configuration would produce higher voltage output, when the motor is being used as a generator? But, how much current can it generate?

  • @jasonh3220
    @jasonh32202 жыл бұрын

    nice video thanks for sharing

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mr Big Happy!

  • @TheZoinxtorque
    @TheZoinxtorque11 ай бұрын

    mother of god .. !!! great project !!

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks mate. I need to improve it. Specially my videos. I’m planning to finish the e-scooter this summer…

  • @LuisEmanuelSanzo
    @LuisEmanuelSanzo Жыл бұрын

    Hi, for delta rewiring I used another method without cutting the coils. but the torque has decreased considerably. Will I have the same torque problem with your guide?

  • @LuisEmanuelSanzo

    @LuisEmanuelSanzo

    Жыл бұрын

    analyzing the diagram you do not simply connect the coils in delta, but connect the blue coil, divided into 3 coils, in parallel and then connect them to Y

  • @torfinnsrnes6232
    @torfinnsrnes623210 ай бұрын

    To clear up the terminology the Y vs D connection does not affect rpm. This motor is a 30 pole 3 phase motor. As 30 poles the motor will spin at 200 rpm when fed 50Hz. This rewiring is reducing the number of poles inthe motor and hence the rpm increases, and the torque decreases.

  • @geckosvanity1667

    @geckosvanity1667

    Ай бұрын

    So if you rewire and increase the number of poles it will increase torque? Maybe increase torque and use the wheel and a gear for a transmition for a small gokart or ebike

  • @davidcook9168
    @davidcook91682 жыл бұрын

    Why do all the connecting wires need to be cut,can i just use the three soldered together wires that terminate in the star configuration and re connect in delta configuration,advice please

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Delta is kind of 'parallel' winding configuration and the reason to cut the wires is to find out the right windings for the new delta setup configuration. The three soldered wires must to be removed to be able to make the new delta configuration. There is a drawing picture in the beginning of the video that is very useful for a reference.

  • @larrycurtis2791
    @larrycurtis27912 жыл бұрын

    Love your don’t be shy attitude I was very impressed. Is there any way you could make a delta interface so to speak a plug and play device that turns a star configuration into a delta? I feel the coil wires are so quantumly entangled it probably won’t work. I noticed these motors don’t take a lot of power and are tourque and throaty. Good job brother.

  • @katiekumcgil
    @katiekumcgil Жыл бұрын

    thanks ill definatly have alook at this

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Katie. It will worth it!

  • @MarkoStavricstavra
    @MarkoStavricstavra4 ай бұрын

    I watched few videos with this mod to understand whats going on TO All who dont understand this : this is NOT delta , this is STAR configuration with parralel coils before mod it was also star but coils were in series ,because motor controller works like a variable frequency drive it runs slower without this mod , in essence youve just shorten the distance of wire , where u get 3x speed , bcs controller is same frequency , where youre exitacion is 3 times shorter, also current is 3x higher so u can burn out your controller or wiring ( find a controller for more current ). If someone wants this to use as a generator , this mod would only drop voltage by a third , but also increase current. FYI delta does not have neutral point.

  • @paulstir
    @paulstir2 ай бұрын

    I have a working hoverboard motor (tested on another system ) , I have purchased a brand new 36v controller with lcd ( s866 ) brand new throttle and brand new hoverboard battery for my e bike project but I'm experiencing no throttle issues I have checked voltage and purchased 3 brand new throttles checked wires tried swapping around but still no throttle

  • @jayshaw3971
    @jayshaw39712 жыл бұрын

    你好嘢!!谢谢你的视频分享-china HK

  • @stefankristanto6163
    @stefankristanto6163 Жыл бұрын

    Cool. Can i just separate the 3 end crimp and connect them to 3 phase wire for more simple?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks buddy. You need to follow the rule. The speeds of Delta are high because each phase gets the total of line voltage.

  • @robivlahov
    @robivlahov3 ай бұрын

    if i use the foc control thats usualy for this motor in wye, can it work in delta? or will stuff notwork as calculations need to be different somehow

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    3 ай бұрын

    I am using the FOC control as usually working in delta with no issues.

  • @robivlahov

    @robivlahov

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design did you self tune the algorithm tho ? I'm using the foc hack for the original board . Altho I did find people that got it to work . But I also saw I can get 1700rpm with field weakening ajd foc on wye so... Il see but thank you for the answer

  • @ciscoreyes4289
    @ciscoreyes428911 ай бұрын

    Awesome video.. I'm new to these mods, given that even w/o any mods, I run my little hoverboard motor using a 52v battery and a 48v controller, and I get close to 35 Kilometers per hour on my ebike . needless to say the motor gets hot. To prevent any wires from melting, I removed the hall sensors and operate it with a sensor less controller that i bought really cheap, once I took the hall sensor out I replaced the 3 motor wires with 12 gauge (awg) copper cable so it can tolerate the heat. . Will this mod work if the motor is sensor-less ? I would chip in a payment if you were to make a beginners mod video . . for those of us with less experience..

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    10 ай бұрын

    What a such lovely comment buddy. Keeps me motivated to carry on. Regarding sensor-less, it works but the speed motor controller needs the hall sensor in order to detect the position of the rotating magnet. The control system of the speed controller senses the rotor position and the proper voltage pattern is applied to the motor.

  • @VinceAnido
    @VinceAnido Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this video - really interesting that you can get 1.8x more RPM with a re-wire. One question though - That shrink wrapped group of 3 wires during your disassembly was likely the star point (at 5:20 in video) - is there a reason you went through that whole snip/label/rewire and didn't just wire those directly to the delta points?

  • @VinceAnido

    @VinceAnido

    Жыл бұрын

    For what it's worth - I just rewired one without the elaborate labeling, cutting, PCB etc. ********Follow this advice at your own risk. I take no responsibility for you blowing up your motor & or controller.************* De-solder the star point. (Look at 5:20 in this video) Identify each strand as A/B/C - these are the ENDS (use a multimeter in continuity mode) On my motor, the winding order of the 'STARTS' was A/C/B (place where colored wires come through the hub and connect to the enameled wires. Green/Yellow/Blue colored wires). This was top to bottom with the hall effect board on the right side. YOURS MAY BE DIFFERENT. Wire the END of A to the START of B, the END of B to the START of C, and the END of C to the START of A. Take special care to cover all connections to prevent shorts. I was able to test mine without fully sealing it back up to make sure I didn't short anything and that it still worked. I got about 2.4x RPM (unloaded) after this modification (680rpm->1675rpm). Obviously reduced torque, but I didn't need it for my application.

  • @VinceAnido

    @VinceAnido

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this video - it put me on the right track to do what I needed to do. Keep it up!

  • @pavletrnic1433

    @pavletrnic1433

    5 ай бұрын

    @@VinceAnido how was the torque affected? i want to do this for a go kart project

  • @VinceAnido

    @VinceAnido

    5 ай бұрын

    @@pavletrnic1433 negatively 😔 Based on the simulations I've seen it's virtually a perfect trade-off. 1.8x RPM for 1/1.8 the torque. You may want to research wye/Delta switching. It's a technique used in scooters and bikes. Basically you bring out all the leads and make a switch to go from Delta to wye on command. Kinda like a two gear transmission but electronic.

  • @pavletrnic1433

    @pavletrnic1433

    5 ай бұрын

    @@VinceAnido so i would have all the coil leads coming out of the stator and then switch them externally?

  • @snakeyJL
    @snakeyJL2 жыл бұрын

    I looked at the PCB circuit and it's a star( Wye) connection, not a delta? Am I right? The ends of all windings are connected to each other on the back of the PCB.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    PCB was designed to be Delta. I know, could be a bit confusing at first sight…but you can do the same job without the PCB, just using wiring…

  • @snakeyJL

    @snakeyJL

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is my test, 22vdc and 2220rpm kzread.info/dash/bejne/q5N6s5WHcZCYZqg.html

  • @jara9813

    @jara9813

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes it's not delta. It's stell a wye. This modification change turns of the winding on the coil three time. So kv it's now 48. If you changed to a star it would be then 86kv

  • @dekutree64

    @dekutree64

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jara9813 Ah, so what's what it does. I was confused looking at all those wire ends. Conversion to delta does not involve cutting any wires or adding a PCB. There will still be only 6 ends, which are soldered in pairs to the 3 wires that pass through the shaft, as opposed to the original wye termination where 3 of the ends are soldered together and the other 3 go to the shaft wires.

  • @ltecsoluciones1026
    @ltecsoluciones10262 жыл бұрын

    Hello, good morning, I am writing to you from Colombia, I wanted to ask you a question, I am clear about how to identify the coils of b1 -be1, g1-ge1, y1-ye1 but I don't know how you can identify which would be the b2, y2, g2 to follow the sequence Thank you

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    The same way you identify the other coils…if you try to watch the video and pause, could help somehow…

  • @ToniVarga

    @ToniVarga

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design same question...it is important to know which end of a coil is "current in" and which is "current out". If it's picked at random, we could get opposing magnetic fields.

  • @ToniVarga

    @ToniVarga

    Жыл бұрын

    I guess the most simple way to keep track is to label as soon as we cut the wires instead of cutting them all and then labelling them.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    In the beginning of the video, check the first drawing that could be useful for guidance. When you start the process for the modification you will realise that is pretty easy and intuitive to find out the in/out of the coils. You made a good point in identify the wires when cutting them. Thanks buddy!

  • @kernhamilton553
    @kernhamilton5532 жыл бұрын

    Hey I no you add a link for the pcb I don't no how to go about ordering. Is it possible to send me a link where I can buy the same thing that you have. Love your video by the way

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello! The PCB factory website and the gerber files links are on the video description.

  • @deniszhuravlev9874

    @deniszhuravlev9874

    2 жыл бұрын

    You don't need pcb from the video. You can use 4 wires to solder in delta. Just see instructions of wiring.

  • @deniszhuravlev9874
    @deniszhuravlev98742 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much. I have just finished my rewiring from star to delta one of my hub motor for electric mountainboard. It works. Spinning is much more faster, but motor getting hot faster too, than second hub motor with star. Also, I don't know how to return to star from delta😅

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    The ideal would be to add a second hub motor to your ebike to distribute the power more evenly and reduce the heat…

  • @deniszhuravlev9874

    @deniszhuravlev9874

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design I tied to rewire second hub motor and test speed yesterday. So, I had 4 wheel mountainboard with two hub motors with delta wiring. 1) max speed increased from 27km/h to 45km/h (may be it could go faster, but 45 km/h was a little bit scarry on mountainboard) 2) torque reduced by two or may be tree times. 3) very slow acceleration and braking. But 45 km/h after 27km/h was amazing!😀 I'm thinking about adding two hub motors on front of my board to have 4wd electric board and increase torque.

  • @serkes7505
    @serkes75052 жыл бұрын

    I will use this engine as a wind generator. Can I get more amps and volts if I do what you did?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wye (Y) Star provides more voltage but not current increase. Delta provides increase in current but not increase in voltage. It will depends on what is your wind generator application project is for. There is one more reason in star (Y) connection. There is a neutral point that neutral wire can be drawn using that neutral wire and any one phase can be used as single phase..

  • @MrCrofty1993
    @MrCrofty19932 жыл бұрын

    This is class I might try it how difficult was it to do ?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the challenge is to find out the windings correctly and identify them, as shown on the video. A ohm meter or any continuity test is essential to find out the windings.

  • @jianchen690
    @jianchen690 Жыл бұрын

    Hi:Can you make a video to connect these 9 coils in series to become a low speed generator?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, once I get some free time, I can do it…

  • @1Thatstrangeguy
    @1Thatstrangeguy2 жыл бұрын

    Put them back into a hoverboard and trick people into taking it for a ride.

  • @chickenmanatvtuft8283

    @chickenmanatvtuft8283

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes please

  • @jakobbarnhill
    @jakobbarnhill2 жыл бұрын

    Is the torque about the same? And would this overheat over a heavy load?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jakob. Torque is a bit less on a delta config. And yes, that’s true. Could overheat on long distances and heavy load. My recommendation is if you’re planning to make a 1DW escooter, make it 2WD instead, as you can distribute the load and power more evenly and obviously reducing the risk of overheat.

  • @jakobbarnhill

    @jakobbarnhill

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design okay thank you great video by the way!

  • @maximilianoroldan2808
    @maximilianoroldan28082 жыл бұрын

    Does have less torque and more speed after modification? Is there a way to do they oposite? Thank you

  • @Alex-hp4xu

    @Alex-hp4xu

    2 жыл бұрын

    I‘ve runner a Kelly controller (KLS7212S) on my Hoverboard Motor. I build a scooter out of it. Now it runs at 3KW and has lots of torque. I never thought that such a small motor can run that power.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. To have more torque, just leave it original, as the original is a Wye/star configuration.

  • @dekutree64

    @dekutree64

    2 жыл бұрын

    The motor's speed and torque capabilities should be the same. This only changes the proportion of voltage and current. You can get the same effect by using a higher voltage battery on the unmodified motor.

  • @ElectronoobGeekingOut
    @ElectronoobGeekingOut2 жыл бұрын

    epic

  • @meatball1233
    @meatball12332 жыл бұрын

    Between 8:06 and 9:06 you switched yellow and green lol :) But nice work.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi dude! Yes, you’re right. I did it purposely…not by mistake..

  • @le_gamer_du_2632
    @le_gamer_du_26322 жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @user-bd7gu3fn7s
    @user-bd7gu3fn7s2 жыл бұрын

    Hello my friend, please answer the question? Use in wind turbines How to make it spin slowly and reap the benefits

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry take too long to respond. Here we go! Would be perfect for wind turbine. There are some good projects from good enthusiasts on KZread on how to fit good wind propeller..

  • @TheZoinxtorque
    @TheZoinxtorque Жыл бұрын

    another imposibile project 😢..thanks for sharing !!!

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    👏

  • @tarts9767
    @tarts97672 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍😊

  • @1managainsttheworld
    @1managainsttheworld2 жыл бұрын

    What voltage you used on the controller when you show the motor running?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello buddy. 36V 12Ah lithium battery pack

  • @1managainsttheworld

    @1managainsttheworld

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design Okay, quite a nice speed for such a low voltage system.

  • @ferhatunsal2066
    @ferhatunsal2066 Жыл бұрын

    hello my frend can you upload the schematic pls

  • @WorkWithoutHuman
    @WorkWithoutHuman Жыл бұрын

    Did you modify the hall sensors too??

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    No modifications on the hall sensors at all…

  • @WorkWithoutHuman

    @WorkWithoutHuman

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design Thank You very much. Did it drain more current after modification or same as before at x3 rpm ?

  • @reimundolopez1198
    @reimundolopez11982 жыл бұрын

    Puedes explicar por qué se unen todas las "y'y todas las " g"

  • @Flo-mb9zg
    @Flo-mb9zg2 жыл бұрын

    Ich habe eine frage Ändert sich die Leistung? Also braucht er dann mehr Watt ?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Die Leistung ändert sich definitiv. Weniger Drehmoment, aber mehr Geschwindigkeit. Durch den Wechsel von Stern (Y) zu Delta ist eine leichte Überhitzung zu erwarten. Wenn Sie ein Projekt haben, verwenden Sie am besten 2 Hoverboard-Motoren anstelle eines. So können Sie die Leistung gleichmäßiger verteilen und eine Überhitzung vermeiden.

  • @Flo-mb9zg

    @Flo-mb9zg

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design Hi Ich Habe ein Problem ich habe mir ein E-Suter gebaut mit allrad aus ein hoverboard das Hinterrad wird mit 1,8Kw betrieben und das Vorderrad Mit 1Kw der akku hat 52v 24Ah. Das Hinterrad, hat Fast keine Leistung aber er bekommt 1,8Kw und Wirt sehr heis. Bei zirka 30Km/h Hat das Vorderrad Aussetzer der Motor geht aber Wieder an Und dann wieder aus. Ich würde mich über eine Antwort Freuen .

  • @r1santander
    @r1santander2 жыл бұрын

    how many watts can it stand without modification? and with modification?

  • @chickenmanatvtuft8283

    @chickenmanatvtuft8283

    2 жыл бұрын

    its the same 350w

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry take too long to respond. I would say more than 1200watts. That’s why I would recommend front and rear motors on your e scooter project in order to distribute the power better and reduce risk of overheat…

  • @fleetcommand3499
    @fleetcommand34992 жыл бұрын

    Why do all the end points come together? Is that not star config?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Star (Y) is the original setup where all end points comes together. Changes were performed for Delta setup.

  • @fleetcommand3499

    @fleetcommand3499

    2 жыл бұрын

    All endpoint still come together on your pcb. Are you changing from series to parallel?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fleetcommand3499 I know it could be a bit confusing. But the configuration after modification is Delta Triangle, kind of series. In the beginning of the video there are some drawings showing the difference..

  • @chickenmanatvtuft8283
    @chickenmanatvtuft82832 жыл бұрын

    how many volt doe you runn the motor at????

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    36V 20Ah lithium battery

  • @bangotoy1945
    @bangotoy19452 жыл бұрын

    Mantaf skema lebih mendetil. Saya kira itu di likit ulang dgn kawat ukuran 6mmx8 lapis. 1 pole 5 lilitan dan seterusnya mungkin watt akan bertambah tidak 350 watt mungkin jadi 1500 watt. Tentu putaran lebih cepat.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes! You are right. That’s why I recommend make your e-scooter project with front and rear bound motors to distribute better the power reducing the heat…

  • @pedrorodriguez-xw4hv
    @pedrorodriguez-xw4hv2 жыл бұрын

    hello, good afternoon, I would like to ask a question, I am converting the motor, but analyzing the schematic of the circuit I see that the coils come together at one point. and this is the star configuration, the delta comes with the coils in series

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! You don’t need the PCB for this project. Just use a 10AWG rigid wire for the coils connections.

  • @chickenmanatvtuft8283

    @chickenmanatvtuft8283

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design 10 agw wire is overkill i reamed you to use 18 awg wire to solder the motor coils, but 10 agw will work fine to

  • @leroyvanvuuren745
    @leroyvanvuuren745 Жыл бұрын

    Hey guys Im struggling to get the file to open up as well anyone know if I can just send them the files as given or do I have to be able to open them I read through the comments and found a listing on eBay but there is only one left ( Currently in cart) thx to whom ever that was again I'll like you in a moment

  • @leroyvanvuuren745

    @leroyvanvuuren745

    Жыл бұрын

    @Eduardo Santacruz

  • @jr.joseroberto2199
    @jr.joseroberto2199 Жыл бұрын

    Boa tarde,o ruim é que a resolução do vídeo ficou com o tamanho muito pequena e dificulta te uma clareza no vídeo.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    Verdade José Roberto…estou adquirindo mais experiência em editar os vídeos. Os próximos serão melhores. Sorry…

  • @wnembhard81
    @wnembhard81 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Eduardo I'm trying to place an order via the website in the description link, but the website is asking me for a real email address??? not sure what this means as I have a gmail address? Any suggestions? I live in the UK and would gladly purchase 2x pcb's if you have? Thanks.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Wayne! The website is trustworthy and I ordered mine from them with no problem. Anyway, I have some spare PCB in stock. I can sell them for 20 quid postage included. Deal? What is your email address? Contact me mate. Regards, Ed.

  • @wnembhard81

    @wnembhard81

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi, I’m sure the site is trustworthy, I just can’t seem to place an order as there always seems to be a different problem message coming up. But yes sounds like a deal to me 👍🏾. Is there a direct way to message you without me having to show my email address on here?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wnembhard81 Give me your email address…we can start from there mate…

  • @wnembhard81

    @wnembhard81

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design did you get my email address? I think youtube removed it?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wnembhard81 Hi Wayne. Probably yes…kind of breach policy…I don’t know how to contact you…

  • @angelflatcreation
    @angelflatcreation2 жыл бұрын

    Hola amigo soy de.peru y soy nuevo en el canal.hago modificaciónes en mi scooter que uso..mi pregunta se puede hacer la conexión sin tener la placa ???? Si se puede sería mucho pedirte un esquema más preciso cómo iría conectados....grax de antemano

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hola! Perdóname por tanto tiempo para responderte. Sí, es posible usar alambre de cobre sólido revestido en lugar de la placa de circuito impreso. El proceso para encontrar las bobinas es absolutamente el mismo que se muestra en el video.

  • @angelflatcreation

    @angelflatcreation

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gracias por la información ...lo pondré en práctica..saludos desde peru

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cualquier consulta aqui estoy. Saludos desde Londres-UK

  • @bengoldberg8451
    @bengoldberg84518 ай бұрын

    for people wanting to do this: NO, this is NOT delta modded, but a configuration called triple Star. a normal hoverboard motor is 3 individual coils, with 3 coils in parallel for each phase, so 9 total coil sets. normally, 3 in series for each, and 3 together for a y config. delta modding is much simpler than this method in the video, as all it is is you undoing the y configuration's center tap, and wiring all 3 main coil sets in a loop. i will make a video at some point on how to actually delta mod motors, which is much simpler than this. however, i am currently messing with this method in the video and it will require INSANE levels of current to mess with, so you absolutely have to rewire the phase wires with higher gauge and temperature resistant wire.

  • @fluidmind3629

    @fluidmind3629

    7 ай бұрын

    give me link to your video ot some tut please :) thanks

  • @dominickwest7558

    @dominickwest7558

    5 ай бұрын

    I would love to see that video as well

  • @murraymadness4674

    @murraymadness4674

    5 ай бұрын

    That is exactly what I thought watching it...why cut each individual coil. It is much simpler to just increase the voltage to go faster. If you use a ebike controllerr, most of them can actually run at 60v, so compared to 24 or 36, it would double the speed. You can also use a dc-dc converter to up your battery voltage from 36 to 60, I have some 1200 watt units I used on my ebikes for this.

  • @matatisan
    @matatisan2 жыл бұрын

    its not 3 times more speed, more like 1.7 times

  • @tegra5971
    @tegra59712 жыл бұрын

    Ok, so now it goes so fast the tires fall off? This means nothing until you show it under load.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely. I am finishing a custom 2WD scooter and I will upload it soon.

  • @romandise

    @romandise

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design te falta mucho para acabar el video? o empezarlo? xD Intuyo que hablas español, por tu nombre y apellidos, agradeceria que pudiesemos hablar por telegram por ejemplo para que me pudieras ayudar con un proyecto, gracias.

  • @eriksonoliveira6981
    @eriksonoliveira6981 Жыл бұрын

    Eu tenho dois motores de hoverboard e o controlador, mas, ele não liga quando conectado na bateria. Ele dá um trampo e para. Ja testei de tudo. Vc teria alguma ideia? Já abri o motor... Já liguei com e sem o sensor rol... Obrigado. Deus te abençoe em nome de Jesus.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    Olá Erikson. Perdão demorar pra responder. Qual controlador vc está usando? O original do hoverboard ou um chinês? Se os dois motores estão com o mesmo problema eu desconfiaria do controlador. Abra os motores e verifique sinais de sobre corrente, fios queimados por super aquecimento, etc. verifique os sensores de efeito hall…mas tudo indica que o controlador do motor está com problema.

  • @eriksonoliveira6981

    @eriksonoliveira6981

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design Olá Eduardo. Estou usando um controlador de bicicleta que comprei. Ja abri os motores e visualmente está tudo ok. Medi continuidade... estou pensando msm que o controlador veio com defeito. Mas, Testei ele e ele não bipa na escala. Não tenho mais ideia.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eriksonoliveira6981 Verifica os 3 fios do motor se estão na sequência correta de acordo com o controlador, porque apesar de seguir as cores corretas, pode ser que alguma sequência esteja invertida…também verifique se os sensores hall são compatíveis com esse controlador. Eu compraria outro controlador…porque esse controlador pode ser incompatível com os motores de hoverboard..

  • @eriksonoliveira6981

    @eriksonoliveira6981

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design vou vê se ainda estou no prazo pra devolver o controlador e comprar outro. Obrigado, amigo.

  • @dragongoldvia2024
    @dragongoldvia20242 жыл бұрын

    Wooww .. wiring star / delta ? Or star&delta

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just delta configuration. Star was the original setup.

  • @D0ST3R
    @D0ST3R2 жыл бұрын

    with 500w you dont have heat problems running on a long time?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Definitely. But if you develop a E-scooter project using front and rear hoverboard motors to drive it (2WD) you can distribute better the power/torque as a result of less heat if running long time…

  • @D0ST3R

    @D0ST3R

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design ok, and what is the maximum speed of your scooter? and his have a good aceleration?

  • @ThatElliotKid
    @ThatElliotKid Жыл бұрын

    I’m looking at buying your pcb you sell any more new videos

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Elliot! I’m planning to make more videos this summer finishing the E-scooter frame and batteries. The boards I have on eBay are quite useful but you need to reinforce the cooper tracks with plenty of lead free solder wire to support the high current generated by the motors and batteries.

  • @24cata24
    @24cata242 жыл бұрын

    i just did that but the motor gets hot really quik and even with no load on it. the torque is considerably lower at lower rpm

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Probably you did something wrong with the coils…maybe you mixed up the coils. Only get hot if you put heavy load for long time…I would recommend you double check the coils connections and wirings…

  • @24cata24

    @24cata24

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design i did just like in the video and the motor runs smooth, the only problem is that i was using it with a hoverboard hacked mainboard and a 4Ah battery for testing. do you think i can get more out of it with a 500w controller?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, I didn’t test the modified motor with a hoverboard main board controller…I used a e-bike 36V 800watt speed controller. Maybe the hoverboard main board is doing something dodgy with the modified coils..I really would like to help you…but I am unable right now, as I don’t have a hoverboard to test it…I will try it once I get one…please, keep me informed if you find out something or a solution for your project.

  • @24cata24

    @24cata24

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design Thats ok thank you, i will test it again on the bike, when i finish the battery pack, as i dont have a bigger controller for now. Even if it is not suitable for my bike gears setup(require more torque rather than ), i will use it for other projects, or use it on the bike with a bigger gear in the back wuch require less torque and more rpm. Either way great project Thanks

  • @24cata24

    @24cata24

    2 жыл бұрын

    Another option that i think of is that my current battery is weak and so is the controller as you said, and being unable to supply more voltage to the delta config, it will draw more current, like all electronics do when they need more power and there is not enough voltage. il keep you updated

  • @joseflores-sx4qw
    @joseflores-sx4qw2 жыл бұрын

    I will never be able to do that, I'd rather pay you and have you do it, how does that sound?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hola Jose. I don’t now…depends where do you live..

  • @joseflores-sx4qw

    @joseflores-sx4qw

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design I'm in the us in Los Angeles

  • @izik____drori
    @izik____drori2 жыл бұрын

    Hi I loved the project, how can I order such an electronic circuit?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi! You can order a customized round PCB on the description. There is no much electronics circuitry on this modification. Only the hall sensors you must to rewire back to its original. Take some nice photos before you start your modification for a good reference about your hall sensors.

  • @izik____drori

    @izik____drori

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design Can I give up the board, and instead of the board, wire wires like in the motor coil. If so, what diameter of wire should be used?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Of course you can! The round PCB is to make more neat and professional but you can use any wiring that can handle high current at least 10A

  • @izik____drori

    @izik____drori

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design Excellent, thank you very much.

  • @adesouza9352
    @adesouza93522 жыл бұрын

    Test in control rc

  • @edgefx1
    @edgefx1 Жыл бұрын

    no audio?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    No audio….sorry…just in the end of the video….we’ll, at least is better no audio than so many annoying audio tracks sound from another KZreadrs…I will improve my videos with audio next time…

  • @Histoshape
    @Histoshape Жыл бұрын

    😳 what the fuck *electronics* ✌️

  • @johnbarry8185
    @johnbarry81854 ай бұрын

    Will you please send a DIRECT link to the PCB that you used? Why did you ZIP through the sensor mounting? Thank you.

  • @artiusreynolds8432
    @artiusreynolds84322 жыл бұрын

    Hey could you sell me 5 of these modified?

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    I live in the UK…

  • @artiusreynolds8432

    @artiusreynolds8432

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design I don't mind shipping fees

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Where do you live buddy?

  • @artiusreynolds8432

    @artiusreynolds8432

    2 жыл бұрын

    I live in the US 🇺🇸 conneaut ohio

  • @rodstartube
    @rodstartube2 жыл бұрын

    really faster

  • @rexizs6767
    @rexizs676710 ай бұрын

    i don't get it if this thing can go 3x speed with almost same amount of torque why manufecterers or everybody doesn't use this the must be a something negative about it maybe so much current draw or unhealty for the motor driver pls enlighten me

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    10 ай бұрын

    Less torque, higher speed, high current, increase in temperature, less battery range. This is a hub motor modification for a e-scooter project using 2WD (dual motor) instead of 1WD to compensate the less torque and balance the high current drain ad the temperature. High performance e-scooters use this system to achieve high speeds (80-100km/h). I hope I have enlightened you.

  • @tigranohanyan3321
    @tigranohanyan33212 жыл бұрын

    You will overheat the motor if you run it for long period of time. What's the point? You need also design liquid cooling system to use it. LOL

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have tested the motor with load and I notice some heating but noting so significant to the point of the motor get damage or even add an insane liquid cooling system and you mention it. Lol

  • @tigranohanyan3321

    @tigranohanyan3321

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Attic-Toy-Design With the same voltage the same 3 faze "Triangle" winding connection will consume more Amps than "Star" connection. Just put it under the load continuously for 30 minutes and see what happen. LOL

  • @dekutree64

    @dekutree64

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tigranohanyan3321 More Amps but lower resistance, so heating remains the same for a given torque load.

  • @tigranohanyan3321

    @tigranohanyan3321

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dekutree64This is ridiculous. For higher voltage you need to increase the length of the copper wire and decrease the cross section to fill the same gap in stator. ( to keep the same heat dissipation) The resistivity of copper wire (ohm x meter) is the same.

  • @dekutree64

    @dekutree64

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tigranohanyan3321 That is correct. The modification in this video is the inverse, reducing the length of the wire by cutting the coils and putting them in parallel groups (more cross section, less heat for given current).

  • @M_S.C
    @M_S.C Жыл бұрын

    5:19 Never ever do that again!!! Never use a cutter like that.

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    Жыл бұрын

    You are absolutely right…it was a big mistake. Could happened the worse! Safety comes first…I am improving my stuff. Thanks mate.

  • @Virigis
    @Virigis10 ай бұрын

    . Если это ваша идея, то вы разбираетесь в электротехнике, но тогда непонятно почему вы смирились с таким бешенным потреблением! . If this is your idea, then you understand electrical engineering, but then it is not clear why you put up with such frenzied consumption!

  • @mohamadkahil5589
    @mohamadkahil55892 жыл бұрын

    bad camera

  • @Attic-Toy-Design

    @Attic-Toy-Design

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks buddy

  • @nangluongmattroisolarlight
    @nangluongmattroisolarlight Жыл бұрын

    Au71ii2iw😅😂😂😅😂

  • @JoseDuarte-vu5mk
    @JoseDuarte-vu5mk3 ай бұрын

    No se aprecia bien lo que se hace Es pequeña la imagen

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