House Of The Dragons DISGUSTING Scene Proves The Show Is DEGENERATE
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House of the Dragon is no savior of fantasy. Game of Thrones was degenerate, and anything George R.R. Martin touches is disgusting; this is no different for the HBO show.
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I'm not addicted to porn, I watch it for the stories.
@xgray2012
20 күн бұрын
That's what they all say. At least that's what it was before 2014 came along and fucked it all up.
@Dark_Kommissar
20 күн бұрын
Yeah but this is gay porn.
@crashandersen602
20 күн бұрын
My Dad said the same thing. That and "I just think the titles are funny."
@leonardkrol2600
19 күн бұрын
I am just there for the music.
@bathyalgames
19 күн бұрын
We know the plot: Karl: Hallo my dispatcher said there is something wrong with deiner Kabel. Tera: Yeah common in but i don't really know what is wrong with the cable. Karl: That is why they send me. I'm an expert. Tera: The TV is in here. Tera: That is my friend Cherry. She came over to take a shower.
OK so I guess I'll defend the scene. Aemond stands up and doesn't cover himself because his brother is trying to humiliate him. He also disparages the hooker he actually has a strong bond with for the same reason. He is caught in a moment of vulnerability and has to act that way to save face with Aegon, as they have this messed up competitive relationship that's wrapped up in the politics of their positions. Did the showrunners need to show it for like 15 seconds? Probably not, but that's my read into the scene a bit more.
I have no interest in the show, but I absolutely don't give the tiniest bit of a damn if nudity and gore are in something marketed exclusively to adults. You can be a prude all you want, and you're free to encourage others not to watch the show if you think it's bad, as I would try to dissuade anyone I know from watching Hostel. But we should absolutely support ADULTS' right to make and consume whatever they want, that breaks no laws and does no physical harm to anyone. Obviously, kids should be nowhere near certain things, but that's not an issue here. Something like 96%+ of adults engage with "adult material" of some form or another, especially if you include women reading raunchy novels. Trying to convince adults, in general, they shouldn't engage with, or shouldn't be able to engage with, adult materual is a losing issue. Keeping it out of kids' hands and keeping kids uninvolved is a winning issue. Now, let's see if this comment gets deleted by y0utub3's censorious Al as seems to happen every time I engage on a serious topic.
@BryceShamwow
18 күн бұрын
Rather missing the point.
Edgy and gross is degenerate, but so is woke and bland. I remember when dark fantasy could push limits. Kids had D&D and adults had Conan (for a time). This is a progression of that for a more mature audience. I think you maybe reading more into this than is there on this specific case.
@wolfbane7497
15 күн бұрын
Dude look up what Arya talks about what the mountain did in the riverlands during the war of the five Kings. In the book look up the first page of A Song of Ice and Fire and it will tell you. On the first page that Catelyn is getting her back blown out by Ned and is wondering if she'll get pregnant again. Like this is nothing new for A Song of Ice and Fire / Game of Thrones there is literally one scene in the book where Daenerys literally pipes down Kal drogo in front of his men.
i heard a youtuber named quantum of conscience suggest an interesting theory once about how there seems to be this strange trend of people attempting to destroy tolkein's legacy and bastardize his work with shows like rings of power, but shows like house of the dragon & game of thrones are allowed to have such a wide cultural appeal because game of thrones is a nihilistic deconstruction of tolkein's work and represents the exact the opposite in terms of themes & messaging, cos they dont want people to have an appreciation for the beauty, heroism and optimism that can be found in more classic/traditional fantasy stories.
@JonDelArroz
20 күн бұрын
That makes a lot of sense.
@sumstuff6956
19 күн бұрын
There is heroism in game of thrones
@FreshLyte
19 күн бұрын
@@sumstuff6956 ya, and it's kind of a joke.
@sumstuff6956
19 күн бұрын
@@FreshLyte why ? It’s the best writing on tv best directed it’s brilliant the brutal violence is needed the graphic sex is needed tho there’s no need for full frontal shots and no need for two minute sequences of soft core porn agreed but the whole point of game of thrones is its reality based lord of the rings cuz love it or hate it our elites ARE DEPRAVED like the depraved characters are always actually called so stop being a pussy lol I even get the full frontal shots that have been there since series one of game of thrones I wouldn’t do it but I totally get why they do it
@TheTrentReport
19 күн бұрын
@@sumstuff6956All the "heroes" die. Clear messaging.
"Same bad setting..." My dude, please stay the fuck out of Dark Fantasy settings. Don't read Elric.
Hollywood has been pushing male nudity over female nudity for a while now. The boys has a lot of male nudity too. If you’re into that kind of thing, then I guess these shows are for you.
@Br1cht
20 күн бұрын
Yeah, Pride Paraders just want the dingelidong out.
It’s almost like it’s meant for mature audiences or something. Weird.
@HighLifeProds17
20 күн бұрын
Depends on your definition of the word.
@JonDelArroz
20 күн бұрын
I’m mature I don’t like to look at penises
@SSJ4Vegiito
20 күн бұрын
@@JonDelArrozYou like looking at trǎnşformers
@jakelewis1192
20 күн бұрын
@@JonDelArrozdon’t lie you love to
@Woke_Invaders
19 күн бұрын
Lesbians don't like p#$nises, guess they aren't "mature". And you're discriminating against asexual people, who are part of the LGBTQIA+ soup @perfidious333
Scenes with chads in partial nudity written by some woman "who don't need no men". Make that make sense. 🙃
It's not entirely clear why George R. R. Martin hasn't finished his story. Maybe it wasn't degenerate enough for the "people" acting like they are in charge?
I was fine with boobs before, and i'm fine with dudes too showing their stuff, no things to be ashemed off, its a mature show anyway
There is a reason why Southpark made a parody about it with the theme song.
Time 9:03 "You see it (women's tatas) every day walking down the street." - paraphrasing Where are these streets? (asking for a friend) - (Actually, that's not the kind of place people want to or should be living in.)
@mikehastings93
20 күн бұрын
Don't downplay the serious trauma this guy experienced from choosing to watch a show with graphic nudity. Nudity/sex is disgusting and should never be shown or spoken of in any context, especially when the scene takes place in a brothel
@karimabidi8312
18 күн бұрын
This guy is straight up from the 19th century lol
@karimabidi8312
18 күн бұрын
@@mikehastings93 Nothing disgusting about sex lol, it's the most normal and beautiful thing in the world. I talk pretty often about sex with friends, male and female, and I also talked with my last ex gf about sex even after we weren't together anymore
We are seeing the fall of civilization as we knew it…
Yeah, it's total trash...
I'm with you, Jon. I'm very disappointed with all these shows that make the vilian the hero. Breaking Bad where you root for a drug dealer. Son's of Anarchy where they're all drug dealers and sex traffickers. I never watched Game of Thrones because I heard about the awful things that all the characters did to each other. I draw a specific line between watching a movie and watching a series. When you watch Silence of the Lambs, you spend two hours and don't develop a relationship with Hannibal Lecter. When you watch these series you develop a relationship with the characters. For example, in Breaking Bad, where Walter's best friend is a cop, you are required to hope that Walter gets away with his crimes. Having these thoughts live in your head for weeks, months, or even years is damaging.
@whysoserious4464
19 күн бұрын
LMFAO sounds like a bunch of unnecessary bitching
@karimabidi8312
18 күн бұрын
Yeah, just go and watch some disney fairytales with perfect knights on white horses lol
@ToddToTheBlack
16 күн бұрын
If you pay close attention, both sides are flawed and riddled with corruption, no one side has a "Hero". That's the whole point, it's a very brutal civil war
@wolfbane7497
15 күн бұрын
look up what Tywin did do his sons wife to forced him to anull the marriage.
@tobygagnon1443
15 күн бұрын
@wolfbane7497 why would I want to look that up? I'm j7st guessing that it was terrible. I am aware that terrible things happen. But seeing it happen or reading a detailed description of it happening is exactly the kind of garbage that I actively try t9 keep out of my head. Not really sure why anyone would purposely and repeatedly invite that into their heads.
The first novel of "A Song of Ice and Fire" - "A Game of Thrones" - was enjoyable. Yes, it is pretty obvious that American society is on a downward spiral. Maybe we're just starved for some entertaining stories about castles and knights.
@chloe59k
20 күн бұрын
So they starved you into eating their shit. Sounds like the type of weakness that got us here in the first place
@hammertronactionfigures2426
19 күн бұрын
@@chloe59k If we thought we were starved then for entertaining content we certainly are starved now. The difference is we can clearly see what tolerating nonsensical garbage can lead to. By the way, whoever you are, you can see that my first comment does point out that this problem has been going on for a long time and tolerating it only allows it to continue and get worse.
I don't particularly like the show because I feel it's somehwat diluted (might have been better if they condensed the material into less screen time). Also, some things aren't too believable (many things along the lines of young Jaehaerys being essentially unguarded). However, this is by far the worst rebuttal I have heard so far. Seinga scene that involved nudity for no more than a couple of seconds does not make a show pornographic. How childish are you that you are afraid of the human body? And did everything of substance just go over your head or something? You clearly have no ability to do a proper review of anything, this content was trash.
Consoomers consoom.
@FreshLyte
19 күн бұрын
Don't forget to collect all the action figures from Diamond Select Toys before they sell out! IGN says they're rare!!! I need surround myself with plastic so people understand how cool I am and what I watch on my TV!!!
Are they trying to outdo the Southpark parody about G R R Martin?
The show has always been pornographic so this isint surprising and according to the numbers people don’t mind.
@JonDelArroz
19 күн бұрын
Not only that but they're mad at me for calling it out. Porn addiction is a thing.
I've never watched a single minute of GoT or HotD...and I'm still alive...
@JonDelArroz
20 күн бұрын
God bless you.
@whysoserious4464
19 күн бұрын
Here's your 🍪.
The 'pornographic' scenes in GoT were not, to the best of my recollection, in George R.R. Martin's novels, and yeah, it's a shame they were included at the expense of material that was in the books, the exclusion of which would later come back and bite the showrunners in the ass. As for the graphic violence, in the past warfare was not constrained by the Geneva convention. I have read accounts of men being killed, and then their members being cut off and stuck in their mouths. This was an age when people were burnt alive, buried alive, hanged drawn and quartered, stretched on the rack and all other forms of brutality... and that's just in Europe.
"At least Rings of Power doesn't have anything degenerate in it." - paraphrasing HA! Famous last words. They'll try something like this to try to save the Rings of Power show.
@JonDelArroz
20 күн бұрын
I might regret saying that haha
If you remove all the degen aspects the story wouldn't change. Idk why people add these scenes.
The show is woke trash, they race swap some of the casting, comparing it to the books...
Gotta say this isn't new to HBO they done this since the 90s, has no one here watched OZ there's full frontal like every other episode. Course it was a prison show.
@JonDelArroz
19 күн бұрын
And that's why I didn't watch Oz too.
Jon Del Arroz forgot to meantion the DragonLance and Forgotten Realms novels, and (gasp!) Lord of the Rings! Those are the great foundations of fantasy novels.
@Br1cht
20 күн бұрын
If you haven’t read/listened to a Throne of Bones yet you’re missing out, better than the DragonLance novels tbh and much better than GRRR Martin’s gamma scribblings.
@JonDelArroz
20 күн бұрын
I did love the Drizzt books! I admit I never read dragon lance
@hammertronactionfigures2426
20 күн бұрын
@@Br1cht Is this "Bone of Thrones" a recently published book? I recall seeing a Bone Throne book way back in the 80s. I don't remember anything more about it except it had a green leafy cover surrounding a bone throne. I'll have to look into your suggestion.
@hammertronactionfigures2426
20 күн бұрын
@@JonDelArroz The first nine books of the DragonLance Saga are the best books. The Chronicles trilogy, Legends trilogy, and Tales trilogy (short story collection).
It's honestly the same crap as the acolyte. It's okay though with some of these YT people because It's less woke to them. Same people complain about Disney but they'll line up and give their money to see Deadpool & Wolverine soon. It's all a tiresome hypocrisy.
Yikes it got worse?! I walked from game of thrones in season 1 episode 3. Wait I was told this was lord of the rings. It wasn't at all!
@jokester3076
20 күн бұрын
It’s HBO
@karimabidi8312
18 күн бұрын
Lotr is for children, asoiaf is for adults
Hotd is a feminist show the writers go out their way even making changes from the source material to tell their narrative. They did the same in got that's why theirs no young Griff and cersei was the main villain at the end along with daenrys.
@hoesmad8445
20 күн бұрын
Lmao what
Looking back GOT was overrated. I don't like how they kill off the hero, Rob. I would have preferred to watch his journey to avenge his father while dealing with the white walkers and then fighting off crazy Daenarys and her wyverns. I think that would have been way better than what we got. Killing Rob was shocking in the moment, but not good in the long term.
Preach it brother
At least it's not as bad as Star Wars: The Acolytes.
Robert E. Howard was great. I especially like The Hour of the Dragon. I wonder if the title "House of the Dragon" was deliberately chosen to sound similar, or whether this is just a coincidence. Interestingly, the anime series Demon Slayer: Entertainment District takes place in a red light district of Japan, but there's no nudity; it's all about the demon slayers tracking down and battling powerful demons. It's all story and no propaganda.
Hey Jon, I'd be interested to know your thoughts on Berserk
@JonDelArroz
20 күн бұрын
I thought that was too graphic for me too and couldn't get through it, though that had some interesting moments and a lot of the degeneracy had real reprecussions on the character's psyche which made it a little more interesting than this which had no purpose other than to be HBO.
Back in my day when the word bitch was said it was an event because no one said it before on national tv. I think it was the show dynasty
My comment got deleted, but I basically said that realism isn't an excuse for this.
@madhavoc1
20 күн бұрын
I spend more and more time on Rumble now .. Copy and paste comments to Rumble and Not a single comment removed .. On this disgusting site .. Numerous innocent comments removed . Detest the woke
The thing is that this things do not contribute anything towards the story or world building. They are only for the shock or fetish value. When i was younger it would have attracted me to watch it, but now it is just meh. And yes it degrades the storytelling, because implying something in a smart meaner is different than in plainly showing it.
oh no i saw peepee on TV the world is ending!!!!!! idiotic moral panic
@JonDelArroz
19 күн бұрын
Sorry ur gay
@Woke_Invaders
19 күн бұрын
"Peepee"?
@GC-gw7lc
19 күн бұрын
@@JonDelArroz Bro, you're the one who made a ten minute video of a man showing his junk on the telly for three seconds (btw that penis was not erect). Don't get me wrong it was funny as shit though, top notch content. I anticipate far more hard-hitting future investigations surrounding Aemond Targaryen's penis. AO3's got nothing on this guy.
@wolfbane7497
15 күн бұрын
@@JonDelArrozdude if this is bad look up euron greyjoy from the books you would lose your mind if your freaking out about this on TV. On the first page of a song of ice and fire cat is talking about how she getting her back blown out. And in a chapter with Arrya she talk about what the mountain and his men did to the inn keepers daughter.
I asked one of my friends who started watching it if i should. He said if you like gay 💩then yes. He quit
It amazes me how obsessed people are with this show, and I found it kinda meh. It's kinda nice to see a few people saying they don't like it. Even if it is just you and Honeybadger Radio atm...
There was an unnecessary nob shot in the Expats series recently, which struck me as just being some sort of weird lefty insert.
Why are they doing this?: 1. Go to the Wikipedia of Al Goldstein, the adult-entertainment mogul. 2. Scroll down to "views on religion." 3. You're welcome.
That's what happens after having sex, though. The real problem with HotD is the awful pacing and how dumb every character is with the exception of Otto.
You can tell gay men are in charge in Hollywood, in every show and movies you barely get to see any female nudity, but male nudity is everywhere, even in a Star Wars show.
They are trying to obgectify men for a reason. They are trying to get men to start swinging for the other team. They are trying to get women to be way more active with a large number of people. It looks like EVERYTHING is designed to help "them" reach a certain goal.
@Krysnha
20 күн бұрын
it will eventually colapse
@JonDelArroz
20 күн бұрын
Correct it’s part of the globohomo agenda
@JamesBurrTV
20 күн бұрын
Ah, I see you have noticed.
@hammertronactionfigures2426
20 күн бұрын
@@JamesBurrTV Yeah, I'm super observant and nothing gets past me. (I hope those weren't famous last words.)
@lvl11717
20 күн бұрын
If seeing that makes you swing for the other team… honey, you were already on the other team. Men who prefer women will always feel that way. Nothing could change what their body craves. If yours craves something else… 🌈
Shocker A Song of Ice and Fire one of the most degenerate book series has degeneracy like come on dude. Like if you're this sensitive about this one scene about him being in a pleasure house then you couldn't handle book Euron Greyjoy, book ramsay Bolton, or god forbid what the mountain did in the books. Like this entire book series has degenerate stuff even the first page of the first book Is literally. Told from Caitlin's perspective on how she's getting her back blown out by Ned and wondering if she'll get pregnant with another son. After she received news that John Aaron died
Time 3:25 That was probably meant to symbolize something. It's a little hard to get more anti-men than that.
The setting of ASOIAF is great but the shows...Not so much.
I might not happen in Shannara, but the show they made out of it SUCKS.
I can't see this being that much of a surprise given the nature of this show.
Game of Thrones is made for wine mom Karen's and their feminine male partner. Its that show they can both sit down and watch together. Its not for normal people. Its all trash. I wish people would realise this sooner.
@mikehastings93
20 күн бұрын
It's probably the most popular show on TV right now haha
@Strive_Higher
20 күн бұрын
There’s nothing normal about you people.
@slapthekillswitch
20 күн бұрын
I will bet money I am the alpha male here
@jakelewis1192
19 күн бұрын
@@mikehastings93 Ikr these people are simple
Got emotional over this... imagine DARK FANTASY IS RAW, VIOLENT AND...DARK. never read berserk. Youll cry. Like the wokies. Youre both fragil lmaoo.
In Dragon’s defense, I haven’t fallen asleep once watching it and am enjoying it. I literally couldn’t stay awake to hate watch Rings haha that cured my insomnia for three days a week during its run.
@Br1cht
20 күн бұрын
Luckily for you society accept you nowadays so that is going for you.
This guy is crazy insecure lmao
This and Game of Thrones when the strong male character rules the realm is fine but as soon as a woman or a spoiled child king raised by the mother rules it all goes to hell.
I know its not a family show, but I watch it with my parents. Definitely gross.
@xgray2012
20 күн бұрын
At least it's better than watching Star Wars: The Acolytes.
I used to watch GOT. Hated season 7. Watched the first episode of this trash years ago and it was so horrid and disgusting that I just never looked back.
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It’s obviously of the same mould as Game of Thrones. I actually think it’s stronger than the original show (though, for sure, it’s early days and could still fail come its last season. As for the nudity…well, that kind of thing has been in HBO shows for ages. Had such scenes been aired, say, 20 years ago, then there would be outrage - simpler, more innocent times maybe - but these days, we’ve become somewhat desensitised to such “explicitness” for good or ill. Even “young adult” shows are crammed full of sex or anything else deemed ‘edgy’. Comparing it to legendary tomes like “The Lord Of The Rings” is almost pointless: a) written in more innocent times and b) structurally (and morally) “Dragon” is a different literary beast. Explicit scenes in the show/book are “incidentals” that aren’t really integral to plot (so, yes, that’s a bad point) but - BUT - if they don’t harm the narrative and characterisations, one could argue “where’s the real harm?” (especially when, currently, television and film HAS got more “adult” in tone). Each to their own though, obviously.
Its just a naked man, whats the big deal?
@watchmehope6560
20 күн бұрын
This guy is so straight he doesn't touch his own cawk when he pees. You wouldn't understand, man.
@perfidious333
18 күн бұрын
@@kittyroo9294 he’s upset their “deal” is bigger than his.
House Of The Dragon and all Game Of Thrones is woke trash just like Rings Of Power and everything Disney makes. Regardless if the fake opposition grifters say is good.
@patstar5
20 күн бұрын
Ya I know fnt folks are into it but I am not into that type of perverse violent fantasy
@mikehastings93
20 күн бұрын
I'm confused what woke even means anymore lol
@davidfrancisco3502
20 күн бұрын
@@patstar5 I'm listening a lot Of audiobooks of Conan The Barbarian, Solomon Kane and others i'm sick Of all the glorifycation Of evil characters, and everything made ugly and boring for the sake of being "realistic". I'm sick of wyverns/drakes being sold as dragons just because they "looks more realistic" than actual dragons.
@Kurgan0822
20 күн бұрын
@@mikehastings93Woke is intersectional feminism, gender theory , CRT, and identity politics . So neo Marxism.
@davidfrancisco3502
20 күн бұрын
@@Kurgan0822It's just feminism period the "intersectional" crap is an oxymoron.
The amount of nudity in some episodes can be over the top. Otherwise I would have thought that it is mostly just realism within a fantasy realm. Read real stories of old times where people have no rights, or just war stories. Corrupt people do corrupt things! This is the sort of stuff that happened. Just look at what was done to the Jews in camps. They were used as sex slaves and had many things done to them. I would agree that this stuff isn't "entertainment" per se, but it's mostly justifiable within the context. Nudity and sex in context is not "porn". Otherwise you can say that the sexually explicit stuff in the bible is "porn". Which in certain definitions it is... but I don't agree with those definitions. I'd also say that if people cannot see the story in Game of Thrones passed the nudity and gore, then they have an issue with nudity and gore. I don't even think it has to do with desensitization. If you can't see past the sex and violence, you need to understand that YOU are the person that is fixated... YOU have the obsession!
@karimabidi8312
18 күн бұрын
Even people in Saudi arabia are more chill than this guy lol. For real, sex has nothing to do with porn, sex is just normal
Couldn't watch the entire GOT series. Too dark, twisted, no light whatsoever in the story. Random graphic sex scenes that do not add anything. Incest, rape... Not enjoyable. Too bad because the setting and world building is interesting.
this guy is talking out of pure ignorance and intolerance because the only fantasy setting he knows is LOTR'S. G.R.R.M writes ASOIAF as medieval/ancient times actually were, we still have degenerate/rapist genes in our DNA from the debauchery that ruled that era. about the tv show, rawness is also HBO's specialty, it's the huge impact The Sopranos left, basically every single entertainment company has been trying to mimick their tv shows since The Sopranos droped and have failed miserably, even a massive acclaimed hit like Breaking Bad exists because of The Sopranos. "nothing could have prepared me for the scene" that's just straight bullshit from someone who's not paying attention, this season took off with the beheading of a child.
@Woke_Invaders
19 күн бұрын
Wtf are "rapist genes"?
@BryceShamwow
18 күн бұрын
You're an utter fool if you think Game of Thrones is anything like how medieval times actually were.
@wolfbane7497
15 күн бұрын
Dude would be losing his mind I'd he looked up euron greyjoy
I remember reading an interview with Emelia Clarke about how she was very serious about not appearing naked on camera, at all, during GoT. In her first scene they stripped her down, touched her, and made a spectacle of her. Presumably as some form of establishing dominance or some such. Either way, it told me everything I needed to know about GoT, and the people who enjoy it.
Can't say I'm shocked at all. I thought that way about it since day 1.
People watched incestuous garbage previously and still came back for more. Our society is completely broken.
I've never understood what people ever saw in Game of Thrones! I'm proud to say, I've never watched it and never will!
@perfidious333
19 күн бұрын
@@TheSurlySoutherner “I don’t understand this thing I’ve never watched.” Brain power working overtime in this one…
"This is gay. Nothing ifs, ands, or buts about it..." Well, maybe buts.
@Br1cht
20 күн бұрын
Good one! You earn a Internet point🎉
Not much civil 'WAR' going on though in the show about a civil war.
@sannyassi73
20 күн бұрын
Oh, it's gonna get there.
@Kurgan0822
20 күн бұрын
Looks like it's the next episode. But yeah. Lot of build up so far.
But what is different from S1 and S2? Season1 was solid and good not great. But second feels like it is made by different people. Lol Acolyte feels like written by lil children who dont know how things works. Game of Thrones and House of Dragons are for adults only of course, but in a way what the writer presents is a little bit from the history. Medievel times were no picknick there was nothing even close to our day norms in society. Brutal, vulgar and sick time to live. But the rainbow people agendas piss me off more than the brutality, gore and seks scenes in these fantasy shows.
It's better then Acolytes, but it 100% sucks compared to pretty much everything before 2010.
It's too bad Jon Del Arroz's fantasy book is only available as an e-book. I never bother with e-books. "You will own nothing, and you will be happy." - quoted from ... somewhere. I will not, and I refuse to take even one step in that direction for any reason. (Maybe I'm being harsh. I did enjoy "The Stars Entwined".)
@Br1cht
20 күн бұрын
You do knowthat Jon doesn’t do DRM, right? So you own that book and can put it on an USB stick or hard drive for safekeeping. Just buy from him directly or through Arkhaven and that is a non-issue. It’s a great book that reminds of Heinlein and Robert E Horward’s stuff.
@hammertronactionfigures2426
20 күн бұрын
@@Br1cht I did not know that. That makes it sound a bit easier to go along with. It'll take some consideration, but my first reaction has some solid reasoning behind it. At least his other books are in print format.
@JonDelArroz
20 күн бұрын
Should I make a print edition?
@hammertronactionfigures2426
20 күн бұрын
@@JonDelArroz I hope so. I'm way more likely to buy a print adition of a book. Make whatever decision is the best for what you're doing. Fantasy and sci-fi are what I read the most of.
@Kiamle
20 күн бұрын
@@JonDelArroz yes please!
Your takes convinced me to buy your book "For Steam And Country" I'll start to read and let you know my opinion on it. It seems like its going to be a blast!
@JonDelArroz
20 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Kiamle
20 күн бұрын
@@JonDelArroz thank you for writing stuff for us who do like fantasy without nonsense!
Thought it was just me. Not a prude but I am tired of rape and incest as entertainment. Never liked games of thrones. Scatology is lazy and doesn't age well.
@JonDelArroz
19 күн бұрын
We shouldn't have to watch that!
I bought the books for GoT all those years ago upto the Red Wedding. After that I was out but did actually enjoy much of the tv series until the last series destroyed everything. I blamed GRRM because he didn't (and may never) finish the story. I tried HotD but only lasted one episode. I couldn't stand any of the characters. Everything seemed smokey visually and everyone seemed to mumble. This was yet another show/movie which Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic liked, but I didn't (and it seemed like it was only me... so, well done Jon for joining the crew. By the way, I've found that I disagree with CD and N on numerous things... but I still enjoy their content 🙂
@BryceShamwow
18 күн бұрын
Thing with GRRM that made me nope out is that he hates his audience and just wants to fuck with them.
I completely agree about the blow job bit. That was pathetic and unaceptable. And there are other scenes in early game of thrones (TV series) that i feel the same about. But apart from that, jesus man, that was such a bad take on House of the dragon, game of thrones and the song of ice and fire books. You literally dont know what you're talking about😂. I think the phrase 'stay in your lane' is applicable here.
@JonDelArroz
20 күн бұрын
“The penis in my face is totally fine if it’s a little bit” - pretty much everyone in the comments.
@brianciavarella4792
20 күн бұрын
@@JonDelArroz Mate, the books and the shows are full of incredible story telling, complex compelling characters and great beauty. You haven't seen them or read them. It's like some one saying your sci fi books are shit even though they've never read them. Pretty ignorant. And are you seriously telling me you've never loved a show that sometimes fucks up on one decision or another ? I used to think the same as you about game of thrones, then I saw the good far out wayed the gratuitous.
@perfidious333
18 күн бұрын
@@brianciavarella4792 Don’t go using logic against the emotional. They don’t like that.
@brianciavarella4792
18 күн бұрын
@@perfidious333 yep. Clearly the show's existence was making him angry before he ever saw one second of it. He just wanted to grab on to something (a cock?) that confirmed his bias.
I disagree. Best show I've seen or been interested in for a long while, it's the only tv show this year that I have any interest in. I see nothing disgusting in the show either, other than the drama, but that's the point. I don't get what's so nasty about nudity, shame over nudity is one of humanities dumbest traits.
@guywholikesheelies3231
20 күн бұрын
If it was two guys going at it would you hold that same stance ? Or two fat lesbians?
Tbh, I haven't watched if, been watching Tulsa King and Yellowstone. Well I am kind of glad Elric of Melniboné was never televised series, they would trash it these days.
you mad bro?
@JonDelArroz
20 күн бұрын
No just not gay :)
@BryceShamwow
18 күн бұрын
@@JonDelArroz Jeez, you have a big infestation of leftists in this comment section.
@BrendanBeckett
9 күн бұрын
@@JonDelArroz What does being gay have to do with anything?
You clearly didn’t watch the scene. Or any of the other seasons. You’re clueless of the entire story or the characters & their relationships. This isn’t for children. It’s for grown adults that aren’t ashamed of their own sexuality. You’re real big on saying it’s disgusting & gross, I question why you’re so triggered by it. Maybe you shouldn’t give opinions on something you’re clueless about, you discredit yourself.
It’s so, sexified. It’s weird. But I just skip those scenes myself.
I didn’t even make it past the first season of Game of Thrones. The sex and nudity didn’t bother me, but I thought the story was boring as hell. I kept watching the first season until the season finale, because I was hoping it would get better, but it never did. I agree that it’s overrated.
@oxanavorontsova9878
20 күн бұрын
it's not overrated you just lack taste.
Now I know why Shadiversity likes it 🤮
I just hope everyone complaining about this doesn't have hypocritical views of Game of Thrones
No offense man but I gotta go with the "don't like it dont watch it" approach here.
Oh man😂 how can someone be sooo prude? I guess you are never nude? You never have sex? It's normal and it is a fantasy world that's realistic and for adults
In defense of GRRM the story is very much inspired by real European medieval history where he basically took all major events and transposed them into a fantasy remix. Medieval European history was extremely crude behind the curtains. Lust, capriciousness and debouchery was definitely a thing. If that needs to be poured on top of the oversaturated culture poisoned by toxic social media degeneracy is a question worth thinking about. Deep down GRRMs work is nihilistic and rotten but it can be read as a warning since it doesn't go well for any of the protagonists. The show has nuance and isnt glorifying degenerate behavior without also showing the consequences (King Jefrey comes to mind). The nudity and brothel scenes are gratuitous for sure. It doesn't serve the story much so its clear it was done to check off the shock factor box.
@Br1cht
20 күн бұрын
Firstly, don’t do the Wall-of-text. Secondly Martin didn’t take his inspiration from history, he quite literally stole the plot of Maurice Druon’s novels and put it in a fantasy setting.
@Kiamle
20 күн бұрын
@@Br1cht not to defend the nugget gorger guy but Maurice Druon's are historical novels. So yeaaaah. GRRM "fantasy" is crude, where fantasy elements are almost nonexistent. Low magic, nonexistent magic system, a few dragons here and there, some "monsters". Other than that, its crude dark low-fantasy medieval setting. There's nothing much to do other than vote with your wallet. Don't support things you don't like.
Hard Pass...pun intended. I'm with you Jon.
Grow up mate it's a good story, this guy sounds like the most dull narrow minded bloke
Throne of Bone is much, much better Fantasy- Fantasy for the Sigma Chad while the Consumer virgins does the gamma fiction of Gamma Regarded Regarded Regarded Martin.
you're some incel material bro
@Woke_Invaders
20 күн бұрын
*Incelphobia kills.
I liked Game Of Thrones but I refuse to watch this Dragon show.
@hoesmad8445
20 күн бұрын
Lmao more nudity there than here
I watched episode 1 of season 1 and it was lame and woke and boring and gay
No. House of Dragon is gross. I watched the first season. By the end I knew I wasn't investing another second. I wanted a dragon storyline. I didn't get one. Game of Thrones had some interesting characters. I, for one, liked the death of Danerys.
@xgray2012
20 күн бұрын
You mean, you actually liked the final season of Game of Thrones?!😒😒😒😒
Objectifying women is evil, but objectifying men is a-okay? Double standards much? In other news Disney is going to remake that Star Wars original trilogy and in their version of Return of the Jedi Luke Skywalker will be the one wearing the gold bikini.
I can't stand grrm or his fans. He is very overrated. I liked the first season of game of thrones but immediately started disliking it when I started the books and then season 3 or 4 rolled around and i lost all interest. That being said wheel of time did have some allusions to characters being assaulted and abused but it wasn't in your face like asoiaf or got/hod.
are you okay? who hurt you.