Those first 2 units did a great job with limited personel on scene to get water on it.

Although I may be inaccurate with the count, looked like only three initial responders with the first truck and then one responder with the 2nd truck. These guys did more in less time than I have seen in many years as a fire responder. Great job!!

I was really amazed at the amount of cars that felt they had to drive down that street. Didnt appear to be a main thoroughfare. Hell at one point a car drove into the area ,did a k turn and drove back out.

@Nick-eu5zu

4 жыл бұрын

My mom would too, everyone wants to see

@codycampbell2057

4 жыл бұрын

Very disappointing that everyone is wanting to see and clog up the streets. Even people turning around and going out the wrong way. Could have easily resulted in an accident and hurt response times more.

@Biffo1262

4 жыл бұрын

Those that drove in initially are not necessarily rubber neckers but people concerned that maybe no-one knew about the fire? If you were passing and saw a house on fire would you be concerned enough to stop ensure the occupiers were aware? Maybe not...this America after all. What does concern me is two man crew on that pumping appliance and the second appliance driver only???

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

@@Biffo1262 No, they're rubber neckers. They need to get the hell out of the way, they're less than useless.

@tomh3652

3 жыл бұрын

No many of those cars were fire fighters in their own cars.

This stuff: triggers my anxiety My brain: Hey! Want to watch a house catch on fire! Me: Sure! Why not! Ive got nothing else to do during quarentine!

@AngxlicSunsetYT

3 жыл бұрын

Same! I watch videos like this all the time then wonder why my anxiety is so bad!

Man, it sure is easy to armchair quarterback. Especially for ppl who have never been in the fire service. I don't know whether this is a paid professional dept. or volunteer, or private (corporation) dept. But they did a heck of a good job with limited manpower and apparatus.

@JB91710

2 жыл бұрын

The nozzleman was worthless. I guess you shouldn't armchair quarterback.

@greyman686

2 жыл бұрын

It's Rural Metro who are under contract to provide fire services there.

@FloridaCatholicGuy

5 ай бұрын

@@JB91710he hit the flames from outside which is what you always advocate. Are you bipolar? 😂

Pre-arrival smoke reading is the best videos

Awesome video, man, it builds up fast. Heroes at work for us all.

7 minites and the house is done. Imagine if you lived in my 215 square mile 1 station district with 30-45 minute response times!?! Good job by this crew

@fireakems8279

5 ай бұрын

3 fire departments where I'm from cover 25,000 Square miles. You read that right. 1 EMS service with 1 ambulance. Closest hospital from the EMS station is 150 miles.

Imparrently it was social hour for the neighbors too

I have to tip my hat off to the guy actually doing something first with the hose, then the fire extinguisher if that doesn't work at least you tried you'd be surprised how many people just watch and record it and don't do anything, so kudos to to he guy actually trying to do something

@ren3171

2 жыл бұрын

Careful, you'll give someone the wrong idea that they should go play hero and try to knock down a blazing house fire with a garden hose or small fire extinguisher.... which is what it looks like you're trying to do. This is not a good thing.

I agree with the valuable resource of having the fire footage from the earliest point of the fire. Response time was very good, probably saving quite a bit of damage. A dedicated water supply was established very quickly. However, I am of the belief that the front of the structure should be reserved for the truck. I thought I saw a ladder parked behind the ambulance somewhere. Personally, I would have backed the ambulance into the entrance road and kept the exit way open for more apparatus. Overall, they did a great job.

@garygeorge9648

4 жыл бұрын

You consider almost 5 minutes to get a hydrant hooked up to the truck quick? That hydrant must have been a 1/2 a mile away or more. For just a couple of Firefighters working the scence I thought they did a great job. All those looky lues need a ticket.

@2olvets443

3 жыл бұрын

Cops were blocking the road and not at their vehicles when the ambo. arrived. Typical cop behavior not doing their job at a fire. They think parking their car and blocking the road then walking to the scene to stand around like a bump on a log is acceptable. I only ever saw two lines for most of the footage then way later a third line.

I’ll add some comments with regard to the video’s description and the fire department response times. The national response time is an “acceptable average “ set by the NFPA. This average is based off a number of factors beginning with the receipt of the first 911 call. The acceptable time is 7 minutes, for the first UNIT to arrive at the location of the fire. That DOES NOT necessarily mean a fire engine. The first arriving unit may not be capable of fighting the fire, such as the fire Chief in a command vehicle. The 7 minute response time is acceptable 90% of the time. What leads to the greatest misunderstanding by the public, is these acceptable averages are based off the NFPA 1710 standard for CAREER (aka PAID) fire departments. If you are protected by a volunteer fire department, which make up the majority of US fire departments, from the time the initial 911 call is received, the national acceptable response time is 14 minutes, 80% of the time. This is based off the NFPA 1720 standards (volunteer) This standard does not define times such as response or arrival times due to the uncertainties involved with volunteer fire departments. Statistics show that the majority of fire departments can not meet these standards. I only post this information so that people do not place a false sense of hope or security in the belief that the fire department WILL be there within 5-7 minutes of dialing 911.

@rickymccutcheon

4 жыл бұрын

excellent comment, this coming from a career fighter who is also a firefighter , been doing it 45 years now , they did a super good job with the minimum response of personnel, they should be commended

@donavanglasser9247

4 жыл бұрын

Very true. To give people an idea of why volunteer fire companies take longer, they have to wait for personnel to respond to the station (typically 3-5 minutes), then get to the scene (most volunteer companies serve a wider area so you're looking at a 5ish minute response most times) and when they get there, there's limited manpower for pulling hose, hitting the plug (hydrant), making entry and everything else. These guys did great in my opinion.

@JosephStAmant-vm1cg

4 жыл бұрын

Finally someone puts up the response data. Thanks so so so much ❤️

@carasmussen27

4 жыл бұрын

@@donavanglasser9247 I grew up in an area with a volunteer department and i had many friends in high school who were volunteers. they had blue lights in their car. Some drove crazy fast to get to the station.

@philipmarsland6265

4 жыл бұрын

RIT Irons for a couple of years our call fire department got an engine out faster than the big city full time department back when people worked in town the average was under two minutes from time of tone

All I could say was...Thank you neighbor ! you did all you could do.

Fantastic response for it being only a single engine and tanker for the first 15 min until more units arrived!!

Every swinging D has a cell phone and wants to be the hero and call it in. Saw at one point 4 people on the phone and I bet other lookie-loos in cars. From the call in, the FD was on scene in 5 1/2 minutes. Took them 2 minutes to flow water. Very good. Fire color change 8 minutes after initial call. All in all a great job by two firefighters who kicked butt.

I wish you uploaded the footage before the first sign of smoke was showing so people could study this in full!

Nice video

Due to cloud cover from rain, the smoke hung so low in the sky, must have smelled horrible and hard to breathe. Always love when the smoke goes from black to white, meaning water is on it! The second engine had to go find the second hydrant, I was wondering why they didn’t just turn around in the driveway! Or maybe the first hydrant they have, it looks like they just hooked it up to the first pumper that arrived, the first engine was just pumping their reserve. Don’t know technically what the second engine is called? It’s looks different maybe just another type of engine. It’s not a fire truck, no ladder! That low ceiling in the sky really made it hard to see anything, and breathe!

Please check out " David Decker" website for first class fire fighting. He is the battalion chief of the Newark, Ohio FD. He posts videos with departmental audio.

@harleypoulsen

4 жыл бұрын

Are you kidding. first class firefighting. Almost every video shows fatal lack of watersupply.

@dnovids

4 жыл бұрын

Harley Poulsen One instance literally out of all of his videos. Why don’t you rewatch and take a look again.

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

@@harleypoulsen You clearly haven't watched any of his videos, and you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

@randypalmer2328

4 жыл бұрын

David Decker's videos are masterclasses in professional firefighting. That's the only way to describe them.

@ps4progress436

2 жыл бұрын

Ya his videos are brilliant! Other companies could learn from him!

Fire Fighters have to assess the scene first for safety and plan of attack. Where is the nearest water source? Does the home have gas? Is there still electricity on? Many quick decisions before you start with water. There are procedures that have to followed. Love how people critique something they have no training on.

@JB91710

2 жыл бұрын

There is only one priority. Find what's burning and get tank water flowing as fast as possible. That almost never happens.

el primer vecino que aparece, es mi héroe! primero con la manguera y luego fue por el extintor, el mejor vecino! el segundo, que siga con sus donuts en el sofá....

I am blessed to have both the Phoenix and Glendale Fire Departments close by, I live two blocks east of 43rd Avenue the boundary between both cities and they have a mutual aid agreement with each other! I had a gas leak in my side yard about 15 years ago, I called the non-emergency number asking for a fire truck to check out the leak, I ended up with one truck each from Phoenix and Glendale coming down the street light and sirens going. They could smell the gas so they called Southwest Gas out, the leak was never found, but the odor dissipated. These two departments wasted no time= getting here!!

Well that escalated quickly. It's definitely tough to get a full crew during a week day for a volunteer department. 2 towns where I worked for the public works department the mayor and council encouraged the employees who were firefighters for thay town to join. It always gave us a full crew quickly during the day.

@greyman686

2 жыл бұрын

These aren't vollies. It's Rural Metro who are a private department who do contract or subscription fire services and they have paid firefighters.

@fdMT_EnGy

2 жыл бұрын

@@greyman686 that's very interesting. I have never heard about anything like that.

There are a lot of comments focused on the distance to the fire hydrant. Hydrants are spaced on a number of determining factors. This hydrant is not THAT FAR away. There is nothing out of the ordinary with the hydrant location.

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

The problem is having only ONE guy on the truck to hook it up and lay the line.

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

ffjsb, I completely agree. If that was my decision to make the second arriving engine should have laid out to the hydrant. That would have eliminated the back and forth, certainly saving a lot of time and getting a dedicated water supply established sooner.

Wow a lot of smoke my friend lol.

The amount of time it took that second in pumper to catch the plug is crazy

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

Only one guy on the truck, that's the problem. Then someone has to go back and turn it on... Now that I think of it, he should've laid his supply hose from the fire TO the hydrant, they would've had water in half the time.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

Clearly you know nothing about firefighting

On KZread, I watched many videos about houses were burned down at 10% - 15% before the fire trucks arrived. But, the fires were limited; most of those houses were burned and destroyed approximated at 50%. Logically, the fires burns quicker than firefighters stop.

Rubberneckers can cause large problems,they don’t think of the consquenes over like supply lines

This looks like a newer home development, I wonder why there are hardly any fire hydrants?

I live in Battle Creek Mich we have an excellent fire department station is about a half mile from my house and there is a hydrant in front of my house.

Very interesting video. Thank you for sharing. Sorry to say, I don't know which Knox County in which this fire occurred. (Per Wikidpedia there are nine (9) Knox Counties in the USA.) Looks like a long response time after the first 2 engines were on scene. Through the smoke we see what looks like more apparatus along the street. At about 50 minutes I see fire breach the roof, which suggests there must have been a great fuel load in the garage, or an attic, which complicated knock down. Good to read the living areas were spared, suggesting good construction and good preservation of fire separation by the occupants.

@DavidWilliams-gh8vj

4 жыл бұрын

Donald Dodson Appears to be Rural/Metro Fire in Knox County, TN. I used to work for the ambulance division in Knoxville(Knox County), TN.

@ronstrulic4388

2 жыл бұрын

And good initial knock down of the fire load by the limited manpower seen on the video. Nice aggressive interior attack by them.

in rural america, getting a water supply established at the 14-15 min mark isn't bad. at least they had a hydrant and didn't have to tanker it.

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

That's NOT rural America... that's a problem...

@irishgaming8061

2 жыл бұрын

@@ffjsb Nah fam, it's a neighborhood. No way to tell if it's an urban neighborhood or a rural neighborhood. The only thing that rubs rural to me is the fact that the 2nd truck had to travel who knows how har down the road before it could find a usable hydrant.

@ffjsb

2 жыл бұрын

@@irishgaming8061 You should probably look up the definition of RURAL. This is not it. Nor is it urban. This is straight up suburban.

@irishgaming8061

2 жыл бұрын

@@ffjsb urban and suburban are pretty much the same thing my g. And most suburban and urban neighborhoods have hydrants on the street, usually every couple of houses. So this one still rubs rural to me.

@ffjsb

2 жыл бұрын

@@irishgaming8061 Son, go back to playing Roblox, because you have NO IDEA of what you're talking about. I've been doing this for almost 40 years, urban, suburban, and rural. NOBODY puts in hydrants "every couple of houses..." Not your "g" either.

Wow one pumper no hydrant no tower truck my city would have called a battalion for this ok now 2 trucks still no tower no ladder deployed for roof access no roof venting

@Firemeng

4 жыл бұрын

Hairpie69720 my thoughts exactly my stations and the other volly stations we have for our 2nd alarm and sometimes even in our 1st alarm we will have you AT LEAST least 4 engines , 2 als units , 2 trucks , hook & ladder and a tower . That is just your initial response ... if you get there and you've got working fire then you've got everyone else available coming your way ...... and of course we have all our command , BC , EMS supervisor etc ....

@rickymccutcheon

4 жыл бұрын

@@Firemeng I live in a rural area in WV, u would get one engine and one tanker and maybe a chief , nearest mutual aid is station is 13 miles in any direction, u might get the tower if we have enuff people to respond, but its a KME aerial bucket and very heavy and we have to be careful where we take it , so to get two lines off , water supply with in 12 minutes or so is exceptional for around here, we cover both a small town and a large portion of the county, around 97 square miles , i think they did an awesome job concidering their resources available at the time of this incident visible. I was both a paid and volunteer for 45 years so i see it from both sides.

@toddayres7298

4 жыл бұрын

If you look closely you will see the ladder truck stuck behind the squad ( ambulance). Poor placement.

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure if it’s an ambulance or light rescue but regardless, the next vehicle behind it is not an aerial, it’s another engine. Despite what many (dare I say spoiled) firefighters are lead to believe, you can actually fight a fire without the use of a ladder truck, and without cutting a hole in the roof. Fires are fought by departments that don’t have the luxury of an aerial everyday. And if by chance a refresher is in order, let’s not forget the job of the initial arriving engine company. That job is to start water and begin to extinguish the fire as quickly and efficiently as possible, eliminating the threat to lives and property. From the time the initial engine arrives and begins flowing water, it is almost 10 minutes before the ambulance/rescue arrives and even more before the rest of the units arrive. Imagine what the extent of the fire would be had the initial engine company waited for the rest of the equipment that is supposedly “necessary” to fight the fire. As proven here, the one thing that is absolutely necessary at any structure fire is, and always will be, an aggressive, safe, well trained engine company. This crew had water on the fire and had it darkened down before the initial water supply was established, and they did it without a ladder company, without cutting holes, without an entire battalion, or anything else. Fundamental engine work will get it done regardless of what gets “blocked” out of the scene.

@keithmerritt3947

4 жыл бұрын

@@ritirons2726 agreed 100%. We fight fire all the time without a ladder truck. Where I live we have no need for them. Also if a fire is already burning through the roof there is no need to vertical vent. Get there do a aggressive interior attack if possible, if not a transitional attack. Positive pressure ventilation works much better but you have to be ready to do a aggressive interior attack. If you vent improperly you'll only do more damage and or burn the house down.

Excellent work for 6 firefighters, water in 90 seconds. Textbook

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

Uh, try 2. I wouldn't call that excellent...

@stephenbourdon9326

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a complete couch potato when it comes to these videos but I've seen other videos where no water was started until they had a hydrant hooked to the truck, sometimes taking six minutes or more. These guys had water flowing in about a minute and a half. They used tank water until a hydrant line could be established. To me who doesn't know any better it looks like a good fight. Also either good communication or good training/practice for the first truck/crew to jump into the fight while the second truck/crew went for more water. Some of these videos leave me wondering what's going on this video it seamed everyone knew their job and did it well.

@maryannguggemos1051

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenbourdon9326 Hi, Most engines carry 500 to 1000 gallons of water in an onboard tank. This allows the fire attack to proceed for 4 - 8 minutes before requiring an added water supply. Many companies will not allow an interior fire attack to commence until a fixed water supply is established. New construction burns faster and hotter than legacy homes. Today firefighter safety is a bigger consideration.

Watching this makes you appreciative if you have a good fire department. In this community, you better have maximum fire insurance coverage.

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

BR549 what do you see in this video that would suggest this is a poor fire departments?

@donavanglasser9247

4 жыл бұрын

For a volunteer organization, they did an amazing job, if you think it's easy, and they did a poor job, please sign up and start running with a volunteer company....

@jethrobodine

4 жыл бұрын

@@donavanglasser9247 this is Rural Metro Fire. They are not a volunteer department.

@ShakeNBake4200

3 жыл бұрын

@@jethrobodine Key Word "Rural" More than likely dont have sufficient amount of members. I mean good lord running a two man engine, and then the second what looks to be an engine is a ONE man unit, Unbelievable....

@irishgaming8061

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShakeNBake4200 Maybe.. But then if that's the case, where's mutual aid? Assuming they have a chief on scene, if that chief had any sense he would have had dispatch do a retone for more manpower (hope he did) or a call for mutual aid.

this literally just happened to me. I am still so scared.

the real heros just standing around waiting for the fire to start shouting or smthn

Second arriving unit knew exactly where water supply was (quite a bit away) and went there promptly to establish supply.

This neighborhood needs more hydrants . Not sure of the area but seems to me took for ever for the additional units or mutual aid to arrive. The BC Command unit should've backed into the driveway where the neighbor moved his pickup truck. That way he can see the scene and also still be in his unit. Overall though great work for basically two engine crews battling this fire.

@davidweston6653

4 жыл бұрын

Brian 3 Did seem strange that what looked like a realitively modern neighborhood would have so few hydrants. Long lay

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

Hydrant spacing is determined by a number of criteria.

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

Hydrant spacing is determined by the type of occupancy (residential, commercial, industrial, etc) Also the fire hazard those occupancies pose. Distances increase or decrease as to the level of those hazards. It is also the responsibility of the fire sub code official(s) to work closely with the fire department to determine if standard spacing is sufficient or if the spacing needs to be decreased, placing hydrants closer together.

@davidweston6653

4 жыл бұрын

RIT Irons In my little town in Oregon there is a hydrant seemingly placed every 3 feet. A little exaggerated maybe but not by much. Local FD saves a lot on 4”.

@azul8811

4 жыл бұрын

@@ritirons2726 NFPA Chapter 18 Fire Department Access and Water Supply. 18.5.2 Detached One- and Two-Family Dwellings. Fire hydrants shall be provided for detached one- and two-family dwellings in accordance with *both of the following:* 1) The maximum distance to a fire hydrant from the closest point on the building shall not exceed 600 ft. (2) The maximum distance between fire hydrants shall not exceed 800 ft. Assuming a hydrant was within 600' from the fire building and if the maximum distance between hydrants no more that 800'....I wonder how far the 2nd hydrant would most likely be from the fire building? (Sounds like a question in High School Math class.) Of course there are also water flow requirements, but I was just trying to get an idea of hydrant availability in a neighborhood such as this.

Did someone get hurt, or do they always keep their stretcher out in case?

It's a private company fire protection subscription fire service. In other words, a SCAB fire dept.. Either pay their annual fee OR have a fire and get socked with a huge bill upward of 7500-15000 bucks.

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Before I say anything else let me just say I’m in no way affiliated or endorsing RM. The subscription fee is calculated by the size of the home. That equates to roughly $300-400 per YEAR. That subscription also includes EMS, rescue, and other thing such as public outreach and education. It also provides a career FD rather than volunteers, who may not be able to answer the call at all during certain times. By having a career FD it lowers the overall insurance ratings for a municipality, thus lowering homeowner’s insurance premiums. So, for $400 per year you get 24/7/365 fire and EMS coverage, faster response times when they’re needed most and lower homeowners insurance rates? I can see why you’d call them scabs. And seriously, complaining over $400 per year against a $300k, $500k, $600k dollar home and all of your life’s possessions? That makes about as much sense as complaining over change at the dollar store.

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

@@ritirons2726 I'd get MORE firefighters from my Rural VFD than what RM brought, and they'd show up with a minimum of 3,500 gallons of water on the first two trucks, with foam. RM does the BARE minimum. It would be MUCH better to have a combination Paid/volunteer dept. to supplement manpower if that was a problem. But RM has the 3rd largest district in the state, so to show up with 3 people is inexcusable. The voters need to get woke and not put up with this bullshit "fire protection". And what do you bet that the insurance rates are higher there, because they sure as hell aren't an ISO 1 rated area.

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

As I said, I’m in no way supporting, affiliated with, or promoting RM, I’m just simply stating that they provide a service that is necessary. A service that no one else is willing to provide, whether volunteer, career, or combination. That particular area has had volunteer organizations come and go multiple times in an attempt to provide free fire protection. All of them failed for one reason or another. For some reason, the city is not willing to provide that service either. So RM is contracted to do so. And the citizens benefit from that contract whether they know it or not. It’s not any different than any other business. I have something you need, if you want or need it, you pay for it. There are other “subscription” fire departments besides RM. There are volunteer fire departments and EMS agencies that bill you for services rendered just the same. All I’m saying is they provide a necessary service to the citizens, that currently have no other option. Is it the best? absolutely not. Is it better than no fire protection at all? It absolutely is.

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

And as I’m sure you know, it takes a lot for fire departments to attain a ISO class 1 rating. RM is a class 3. I was heavily involved in attaining the ISO rating for my municipality so I know what’s involved in attaining or lowering a rating. A class 3 is far better than what the typical fire department can achieve. Again, not backing them, just pointing out that the citizens do benefit from the system, whether any of us agree with that particular way of doing business or not.

@irishgaming8061

2 жыл бұрын

Man that's fucked. Shouldn't have to pay for the fire department to come save you. They should save you because it's their fucking job. End of story.

6:00 What's that pickup with wig wags? Obviously not FD if they are leaving the scene.

At 7:51 ... the bystander almost got crushed by the pickup !!

another fire starts in the garage, what is most common cause os such fires? this is my thrid video fire starts in the garage.

Just one thing to point out that hampers emergency scenes, look how many people are trying to get close for a look from their car? This is such a huge problem in emergencies and hardly anyone addresses it. Got to get the lookers out of there asap.

someone needs to run through emergence response and seen parking . Nice block by the meet wagon . blocking pumps .. but they got the Job gone in the end houses and things can be replaced PEOPLE CAN"T

@2olvets443

3 жыл бұрын

Ambo had no choice, cops had road block with cars and were NOT at their cars, as usual for cops not actually working traffic control but parking car to block and walking around to get a birds eye view.

Having watched a number of fire videos, once on scene this has to be one of the fastest in getting water on the fire I've seen. These guys wasted no time. You have to feel really bad for the homeowner for losing their house.

@mileshigh1321

4 жыл бұрын

They didn't loose the house. The description above says it was confined to the garage because the doors where closed.

@rickj1983

4 жыл бұрын

@@mileshigh1321 I wasn't sure if they would lose their house or not. Smoke damage is not a good thing and very hard to get out.

@donavanglasser9247

4 жыл бұрын

@@rickj1983 looks like it is a side attached garage, so most of the smoke damage would've been mostly confined to garage area

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

@@mileshigh1321 I was confined to the garage because of 1 hr. rated drywall between the garage and house, not because the garage door was closed. That had zero to do with it.

@mileshigh1321

4 жыл бұрын

@@ffjsb I just repeated what the Knox county fire bureau said above in the description. The door to the house from the garage was closed. Minimized house damage.

The giy might want to get his dogs out of that house in case it jumps houses

Much better than the Sunrise FL Fire Dept. My neighbors house caught fire about 15-20 years ago when a teenager left a candle burning and it caught something on fire in his bedroom. I was in my backyard when I heard the kids running out the back after grabbing their pets. I ran around the front and lo and behold, there was an Engine that just arrived. You could see the smoke in the bedroom, then flames licking at the window. The firemen had pulled a line and charged it up and just stood there watching it. The window busted out and flames were climbing in the front, where the room was, to the eaves, and the firemen just stood there, not putting one drop of water on it. It wasn't until a 2nd engine arrived, did they finally go inside and make an attack. By that time, it was too late. How I wish I had a video camera that day, the city may have been buying that family a new house. Spoke with a firefighter I knew from a bordering city and he confirmed that this was the way they operated, they would commonly wait for a 2nd truck. I hope things have changed since. Nice job by this FD for the speed in which they attacked it.

Did you find out what started tge fire? I know it has been a few years...

56 minutes in and no one is putting out the flame on top,just jaw jacking on the ground

Confined to the garage yet near the end we see fire through the roof of the home?

Did those two cars between 19:00 and 19:28 drive over the supply hose? sure as hell looks like it.

@irishgaming8061

2 жыл бұрын

yeah looks like it, hard to tell through the smoke. Instead of standing around shootin shit, those cops should be at either end of the neighborhood and only let verified residents through.

I'm so annoyed by the entire fucking neighborhood stopping and chiming in even though they are useless.

In the video there was a dog barking, and the guy running around like a headless chicken. Kind of spooky….

7:06 the first engine shows up WOW

@lawoftheland5923

2 жыл бұрын

That’s volunteer for you

@greyman686

2 жыл бұрын

@@lawoftheland5923 Wrong. Rural Metro is a paid, privately owned department under contract with this area.

There is always something to critique on a fire scene. But this was a pretty good job with the limited manpower they had. A lot of departments have to fight fires just this same way. 12+ minutes after arrival until they had more than 4 total personnel. In what looks to be a nice area too. BTW, which Knox County is this?

@tmincey558

4 жыл бұрын

Knox Tn

@firepower782

4 жыл бұрын

Timothy Mincey Oh wow. Ok I live in middle TN so that was the first that popped into my mind of course. So this is Rural Metro Fire/EMS.

@timearp8185

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, I'm quite impressed with what they achieved. I'm no FF but have (yeah you'll laugh!) watched quite a few videos on youtube of firefighting in the US, they got water onto the fire quite soon after arriving, established a supply and managed to take control of the fire in a short space of time. Surely this is a success? Yes, there will be a manual that will say how to do things, however, Murphys law states 'no plan survives the first contact', you do what you can with what you've got.

@RBKeane03

3 жыл бұрын

Knox County Ohio

@limemonster2295

3 жыл бұрын

@@RBKeane03 RMFD is in Knox county and in other areas but not in knox county ohio.

Damn, the only thing about the camera is that you cant hear the sirens from the trucks.

i feel really bad for the amount of 5 inch that was dropped GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD GOSH LOL

@enid0mom

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed no hydrant in sight at the beginning. One of the factors in determining what I pay for homeowners insurance is how near the nearest fire hydrant is.

knox county tennesee or ky?

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

Tenn. BTW, don't buy a house there.

Why didn't law enforcement shut down the street to traffic??

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

Law enforcement did block the roadway, only they arrived after the first fire apparatus. Which in turn inadvertently lead to the ambulance that everyone is talking about going up the street the wrong way and “blocking “ everyone else out. It a common situation that occurs everyday. If people actually watch the video you’ll see it all unfold right before your very eyes. It’s just that some people will never admit that their fire scenes get just as chaotic or the same “mistake” has been made by their own department.

Wow

Big fire big water

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

Bingo!

Rule 1: you never run on a scene…. Bad bad bad

not shu re were this is no judgement but were I am every neighbor would havbeen running to help..I'm a retired firefighter..and yeah apparatus placement was little off but it looks like there wasn't much choice

I see the cops NOT doing their job again and allowing traffic to flow through? So much for that ambulance parking where it did and blocking the scene?

@Josh92SA

4 жыл бұрын

What irritates me more, is that people decide to go through even though there's emergency service everywhere.

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

Obviously the police were not there at the beginning of the video so yes, there are still cars coming and going. After all it is a public thoroughfare until lawfully proven otherwise.

@Josh92SA

4 жыл бұрын

@@ritirons2726 If you had a brain, you don't jam up an already jammed up area full of emergency service just to see whats going on. Dumbass.

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

@josh miller, apparently you haven’t spent much time at emergency scenes. Non emergency personnel coming and going, taking a picture or video and driving off is a common occurrence. Like I said, until the police are there to close the street and actually direct people away from the incident, they’ll keep coming to see some piece of the action. If the street is not blocked, regardless of how many emergency vehicles are there, it’s still a public street that anyone can use until someone with authority shuts it down. The people with common sense will stop and turn around. The others will drive right up as usual.

@Josh92SA

4 жыл бұрын

@@ritirons2726 I'm with the emergency service actually. Yes it is a common occurrence, but when emergency service is already practically blocking the area, it's also common sense to stay clear and not get in their way. The end.

On top of all my other comments and to get to the point, this was a one engine, three-person, tank water fire with hydrant backup. Everything else was a waste of time. As easy as this fire was, they couldn't even get that right. No, getting it done eventually doesn't count when it's your property.

@virgilhilts3924

Жыл бұрын

Oh look the schizophrenic pretend fire fighter is pretending to know what he is talking about... again 😂

This is y I'll never live somewhere where police and fire are more then 4 minute response times. Hope everyone is ok

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

Thomas baker, you will not find a police, fire, or EMS agency that will be capable of arriving at your emergency within four minutes. Check out my post related to assumed response times elsewhere in the comments.

@mattmoschkau84

4 жыл бұрын

There is only a couple departments in the entire US that have an average response time below 5 minutes. If I recall correctly there was 3, my community being one of them. Houses still burn to the ground.

@ritirons2726

4 жыл бұрын

Matt Moschkau , keep in mind that there is a big difference between “response” time and “arrival” time. The response time is the amount of time a fire dept has to answer the dispatch of a fire or emergency, not the amount of time it takes to arrive at the scene of that emergency. A career FD ( fully staffed 24/7:365 ) is held to an “average” of one minute to respond to and begin sending fire apparatus to the scene. The goal is to have a FD unit arrive within 4-7 minutes. Those numbers change drastically if the town you live in is protected by a volunteer FD. I can assure you after 29 years and counting as a firefighter, with the exception of some very rare or extraordinary circumstances, it is nearly impossible to have a fire engine arrive within 3 minutes of dialing 911.

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

Somebody has to CALL an emergency agency before they respond... And there's not a single agency that's going to be standing by just to respond to YOUR house alone...

@lawoftheland5923

2 жыл бұрын

Then you better live right next to the station you wuss

Where is them dogs coming from

Where did the other truck go???

@ChrisMartinScruffy

4 жыл бұрын

To find and hook to a hydrant. It then drug a long line of hose back to the scene and hooked a hose to the "Main" fire truck to provide constant water needed to put a fire of this nature out.

Splendid driving in reverse to avoid putting tread marks on a five feet wide stretch of lawn...

@Hokieredneck

4 жыл бұрын

well they are neighbors and would have to figure out who would fill it and seed it. might go to court

@karsonb6318

4 жыл бұрын

Why is that an issue in the first place? Him reversing didn't cause anything bad.

good thing they left room for the ladder.......

Wow all those people are doing more harm by getting in the way when they drive in.

They honestly should have blocked the road a lot sooner cuz there was way too many curious ppl driving by n getting in the way if ur not supposed to b there go on about ur business n stay out of the way

Only haveing 2 engines they did one hell of job knocking the fire dow till more firefighter's got there

Twenty minutes and most of the fire is out, If people have the money your home should always be built stricter than the housing codes require, especially the electrical wiring in your home, one spark and you have a major fire on your hands. Use steel conduit known as EMT for the wires to run in, even if a spark or short happens the damage is contained in the EMT. Breakers are meant to shut off the flow of power should there be a disturbance in the circuit, always check the breakers by shutting it off then turning it back on to make sure it is not jammed or rusted into position!! Check all appliances, especially those served by 220V Air Conditioners, Central Heating, Clothes Dryers and it's vent, Range, Ovens. Paying for a service to do this might save you hundreds of thousands of dollars to re-build the house.

@Commissar0617

4 жыл бұрын

emt in a house would be exceedingly unusual, and difficult to run witht he frequent remodeling and revisions done with them

Four person crew, including the chief, in three vehicles. I am not a professional fire fighter so take my observation as such, but the operator of the second engine had to hook to the hydrant, lay to the scene, and run back down the street to open the hydrant. Just one more crew could have established supply much faster.

@rogerkincaid4535

4 жыл бұрын

I Would say it's called a Fire Levy Tax that failed.

@joeloveland6283

4 жыл бұрын

Tennessee, no state income tax, heavy conservative area where people don't want to pay taxes for civilization but expect miracles from their under staffed volunteer departments. Especially when people move from urban areas to these low tax areas but expect the same level if services...or complain when they have to pay a private company a fee for protection. Like duh, same concept but going to people that cut every corner to make a profit, not help people. I believe a few years ago there was a video of a fire in Tennessee where the fee based department pulled up, noticed the HOUSE was not one of their fee payers and they watched it burn to the ground. Fire services should not be dependent on volunteers solely. Or for profit. That worked in the old days, but it needs to be reliable and well trained and respond to all incidents equally.

@firepower782

4 жыл бұрын

Joe Loveland Yes it is Rural-Metro in Knox County. They're paid, but yes probably still a combination department. Limited manpower, probably had 4 in the station but the medic unit was out, leaving 2. They count on those other two to be there to fight fire. Wilson County EMA (WEMA) does the same for areas outside of Lebanon & Mt. Juliet.

@joeloveland6283

4 жыл бұрын

@@firepower782 Rural -Metro is a private company that charges a fee for protection. And is there for profit. The only way to make money as a fire department is to cut staff. So low staffing = foundation washdown.

@joeloveland6283

4 жыл бұрын

They probably sold the county on lower cost, but actually add "cost adjustments" often but don't improve services.

Looks like nice houses id assume decent tax basis but only two engines 3 guys no ladder no rescue on the box ?????

@FloridaCatholicGuy

3 жыл бұрын

I could be wrong but I’m guessing they had more apparatus in the rear of the house. They had water on the fire before the lines were pulled off the pumper in front.

why not just sell tickets

They need to get water to the fire faster

Exurban America, where everybody has a 5000 sq ft house, a 4 car garage and a bunch of over sized vehicles, but they don't way to pay to properly install hydrants and properly fund fire departments. Looks like an "exurb". Rural people trying to live suburban, but don't have as many services as more established suburbs.

@azul8811

4 жыл бұрын

Tax Payer Better fire protection means less freedom?

@donavanglasser9247

4 жыл бұрын

@@azul8811 good, I'm not the only one trying to question their logic

@azul8811

4 жыл бұрын

@Tax Payer Well, would you agree that the level of fire protection varies throughout the United States? I'm thinking in terms of staffing, training, apparatus, equipment, response times, water supply, code requirements, etc.. Would you not agree that one reason for such differences is often driven by economic considerations? BTW, I didn't quite understand your reference to freedom in your retort to @Bill Cobb. Care to elaborate?

@azul8811

4 жыл бұрын

@Tax Payer Where'd ya go, Tax Payer? I'm curious as to your response to my questions. Care to address them?

@azul8811

4 жыл бұрын

@Tax Payer Oh? Where did you answer? I don't see any answers on my screen. Essentially, I had asked you the following: 1. If you would agree that the level of fire protection varies throughout the United States? 2. If the reduction in the number of house fires means: a) That fewer hydrants are needed in a given neighborhood? b) That when a fire does occur, that a longer response time doesn't matter as much? c) That (because there are fewer fires) fewer fire apparatus can now be dispatched to a report of a fire? d) That those rigs can be now be staffed with fewer people? e) Since the chances of one's home being involved in fire has diminished, would you suggest dropping or reducing your fire insurance coverage? 3. I had also asked you: a) If you would suggest that if a private company wants to build a nursing home or a school in the community with inadequate exits & other fire protection considerations that it should it be up to them? b) Or if an investor wants to build a fireworks factory across the street from a hospital? Who decides what is permissible? The free market forces? Or perhaps a City or State regulatory agency should have a say? 4. And lastly, I had asked you, who in this thread suggested that we all aren't FREE to purchase a home, for whatever amount of $$$ we want to spend, where we want, with the amount of infrastructure in place (hydrants) and cost of insurance" as you seemed to feel? No dude, you did not answer even one of these questions. _I can't imagine why!_ LOL

American suburbs are falling apart can’t even afford to have properly manned fire departments. Most of the country is vulnerable like this behind the veneer of big homes and nicely manicured lawns.

@firepower782

4 жыл бұрын

dcentral All true. Knox County, TN has a lot of wealthy areas outside of Knoxville city. They should demand better. I'm not gonna criticize my brothers at Rural Metro because they're doing the best they can with what they've got. Some areas of Knox County have actually started their own paid departments because of this. Karns for example.

@haroldrobinette

4 жыл бұрын

@@firepower782 Could go to subscription service but would response time be quicker? Nope because it always starts at 1st notice, 911 call, dispatch, FF response to the station, get equipment going, arrive on the scene, will never change. What will is if is manned 24/7 then maybe 4 minutes quicker if lucky. With that, We all try our best time response, but traffic affects ALL Response time, People need to remember to give right of way to the Emergency Response vehicles period and stop the gawking at scenes.

@firepower782

4 жыл бұрын

Harold Robinette I agree with all of that, but Rural Metro in Knox County IS manned 24/7. Their funding is also mostly subscription based according to their website. I'm not sure if they have to verify a subscription before responding or not, I doubt it. They have 16 stations. Still not enough stations or especially manpower for a growing Knox County but that's understandable. I know they're doing the best they can.

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

How are these suburbs "falling apart"????? Most of them are NEW.

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

@Erich Weiler Had there been someone trapped, it certainly would've said "deadly" fire, because Rural Metro wasn't going to save anyone.

I can remember when I was 8years old we were at my grandma's house in afton mo when we got home to florissant mo the fire department was in front of our house my mom got out and asked tho fire chief what was happening and he said lady I don't know my mom said I'm Mrs . maxey he said when we first got here the whole house had red blue grey orange yellow coming out of all the windows and doors And roof line's we could hear screaming laughing then it went pitch black My mom said is my house on fire he said I told you about it its been black and quiet for 15, minutes my mom said are you going one he replied I'm not going in and none of my men want to either my mom was pissed understandingly. She said come with me dammit they lined up behind her to the basement we had a set of steps that went down into the basement they looked at the electric box anygot out quickly this was about 11.45pm Christmas Eve 1969 it was quite for a bit than the furniture begin to move on it's own screaming crying laughing pounding door's slamming open and shut kitchen cabinet did the exact same thing it lasted exactly three months and Stopped and a regular haunting begin it was scary as hell how we keept our sanity is beyond me thank you Brian maxey from wentzville mo in case you're wondering if was a poltergeist intrusion pray we never experience one

Fascinating to see in many videos like this that there are two groups of people, those who run to help instantly and those that have the "not my circus, not my monkeys" mentality. Seems like more people in general continue on minding their own business as if nothing's wrong.

This is a perfect example of the dumming down of America. In the 1880's everyone would be offering assistance... nope not today... we have Guy in burgandy shirt... "I do have my bag of pop corn to eat while I wander around". What a disjusting neighborhood to live in. Only ONE person got involved in support!

@help3102

4 жыл бұрын

Well if you have no idea how to fight a fire you shouldn't get involved because then you're just wasting time and blocking the trained people.

@jeremymathias2280

Жыл бұрын

@@help3102 or how to spell "dumbing"....

pretty fast knock down..

Jesus. What with these fire departments? Do they have no understanding that the quicker water is put on it, the quicker it goes out.

@lawoftheland5923

2 жыл бұрын

Dude they are running a 4 man crew relax

@mikemiller9119

2 жыл бұрын

@@lawoftheland5923 dude, I’ve seen 2 man crews putting quick water on fires. There has to be an urgency. DUDE.

@cjritchie9701

7 ай бұрын

@@mikemiller9119they had water on the fire in less then 90 seconds or arrival. Do you not understand anything about fire fighting? No, you don’t

Yup, block the intersection so apparatus cant get through! Buncha clowns!

No cops? Usually they're the first to arrive.

@ffjsb

4 жыл бұрын

Good. That means they won't be parked in the way.

@azul8811

4 жыл бұрын

In the big city they usually take a hydrant. And if not, they can always take the front of the building to block out the aerial.

5:40 almost accident from wrong way car

What was the point of getting his garden hose?

@Siren1000T1

3 жыл бұрын

Even though a garden hose maybe useless in the fire like this, it's at least better than nothing. He apparently was being a good neighbor by at least trying to help in some ways.

why do people drive their cars into where the fire trucks need to be. this is so dumb just to look they get right in the way.

Lol guy moved his truck and still got blocked in

@ddylla85

3 жыл бұрын

Guy likely moved his truck to prevent it from being damaged by heat/fire.

Wow, I have to say the as a retired Ff they did well, six Ff working on there own to put out a serious fire like that, the hydrant appeared to be on another block but the Ff made do with the water in the tank. It's a shame we could not see the size of the property but judging by the size of the other houses it was quite large and badly damage.

I am.supose.aFD .is volunteer...5 mn..is..very.very.good...great.job.guys..another.truck.go.long.way.for.plug.the.big.hose...aller people.is.ok..that.is.good.news..

@greyman686

2 жыл бұрын

You suppose wrong. This is a privately owned department, Rural Metro, with paid firefighters under contract to the area to provide services.

Wow, people can't drive, that truck went the wrong way on a one way, and atleast one car/person, couldn't figure out what to do with their vehicle but block the road.

Took a long time to get more apparatus there. Obviously I have no idea where this is or where the departments are or how they are set up. But I’m a fire fighter in Indiana, and the initial response around here to ANY fire is 4 engines, 2 ladders, 1 medic/rescue and 1 battalion (as well as 3-4 tankers if its in the country). Once the battalion gets there and evaluates the scene he will either disregard some or call more if needed.

@firepower782

4 жыл бұрын

CH 55 Yeah this is Rural Metro FD in Knox County, TN, outside of Knoxville city. Knox city would have had a similar response to what you listed.

@msuprep

4 жыл бұрын

I was in a small rural volunteer dept and we only could run one engine with personnel during day. At night we could get engine and tanker but that's it. The mutual aid from a nearby town would only send 1 engine out to assist never more no matter how bad it was. This was pre 2000. Now they respond much better with better equipment. We really were in a bad situation.

I am again blessed, at the line between my north neighbor and I is a fire hydrant, one truck could easily hook to it for continuous water supply. I am in an eyebrow which does not allow much street parking, but they have long hoses that can reach everything. It is important to have your electrical systems checked often, receptacles, lights and breakers replaced about every 5 years to ensure they will do their job. These items are Not meant to be trouble free the lifetime of the home!!

No Deck gun. Large volume of fire showing, handling useless. No supply from either 1st due? No traffic control. Come on. We are better than this.

One engine with 3 people? For an involved structure like that? Interesting.

@AlaskaInMotion

4 жыл бұрын

There are a ton of depts with 2 man engines. Captain and Engineer, other firefighters ride an ambulance. Maybe the ambulance was on a med call.

@mauloathompson7643

4 жыл бұрын

Engineer, captain, and firefighter in the engine or they will split the firefighter to drive the tanker to the scene. Some shifts may have short staffing and in this case it’s 3. If they train for it they can do it

@robertwalker5784

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe volunteer fire department so the others may be on the wah to the scene with the other trucks

@joe_mosc

4 жыл бұрын

Trust me i know about short staffing, but they only had 1 piece respond which was odd to me, no RIT team or truck companies

@mauloathompson7643

4 жыл бұрын

@@joe_mosc probably a volunteer company and they have no 2nd or 3rd in engines... if they do they are probably damn far away. I give props to them for taking it on by themselves. its not like fdny where they have 4 companies show up in 2 mintues and have more to spare