HOSHIZAKI ICE MACHINE LONG FREEZE CYCLE
This was a service call on a Hoshizaki ice machine with a long freeze cycle. I found that the water lines were swapped at the condenser inlet and outlet, a bare wire in the electrical cabinet, the machine was low on charge and it had a bad expansion valve. We let the customer know and we will order the parts and return.
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Chris, Thanks for taking the time and making such a great ice machine troubleshooting video. We really appreciate your professional step-by-step diagnosis approach! Everyone here at HQ in Atlanta, GA has been passing around your video and we are excited to see what comes next too.
"You cant assume the first problem you find solved it all" Wisdom
Working on Hoshi with long freeze 3beeps also. Waiting on parts for now, the float switch rubber base connector was crack and leaking water. So once I can replace that i can check on all the operating. This is my 1st Hoshi, love your videos on them helping me alot to become a greater tech. TY 🤙
Thanks for these methodical diagnosis Chris, is one of the main reasons this channel worth each minute viewing. 👍
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5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Juan!
@JuanTodoli
5 жыл бұрын
@@HVACRVIDEOS Thanks for your time Chris.
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5 жыл бұрын
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Thanks for the time spent to explain the whole process. Great video!
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5 жыл бұрын
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I love your work Chris. I do the same things you do, and I have a comprehensive knowledge of schematics, it's awesome to see it. Plus you've taught me a lot in rtu diag.
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5 жыл бұрын
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Really appreciate the ice machine videos
Nice one!👍🏼 very true there with the obvious problem is not always the only. Awesome job🤙🏼
Great job again like always
Dude your videos are awesome! Please keep it up
Very informative thanks 👍👍👍
Good video, great troubleshooting!!! Thank you
Nice video! Always keep looking ! Thanks
Very good diagnosis.
Great video and analysis!
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5 жыл бұрын
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Awesome video.
Multiple Offender 🤣 Love Hoshi's!! Great video and information 👍
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5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
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5 жыл бұрын
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great job Chris. i will like to see the follow up the TXV .
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5 жыл бұрын
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Excellent problem solving! Water cooled condensers have been few and far between in my experience. I normally find the water flow regulator malfunction, not the install problem you found. Great catch along with the txv.
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5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John
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Nice find never seen a water cooled heard they use it alot in big cities... Most of the one I worked are self contained or remote.. the notorious txv.... Common on them
thanks good info i have an identical unit. i have changed the expansion valve. i will pump it down and verify the compressor has good valve seal
Bout to head out to work. But first I gotta watch the new vid.
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5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
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5 жыл бұрын
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Man U r a technician much respect
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5 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud
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God bless always
nice catch, that would have take me a couple days to figure out
That would have done my head in , great vid , thanks again, Chris.
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5 жыл бұрын
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@sterlingarcher46
5 жыл бұрын
@@HVACRVIDEOS Oh , man ! I can never be here live because of the time zone difference, such a bummer... I always listen to the replay but it's not the same ...
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5 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingarcher46 what country are you in?
@sterlingarcher46
5 жыл бұрын
@@HVACRVIDEOS A place known worldwide for their food , yet at the same time they're known for eating frogs 😋🗼!
That was an easy service call. Rookies of course they gonna misdiagnose and play and guess and make the unit worn than it already is
Never heard of this icemachine, scotsman, manitowoc, cornelius are the one's we have here. I like your approach to that service call.
@electrodepan.services
5 жыл бұрын
Its japanese icemaker y have in france
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5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
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5 жыл бұрын
@@HVACRVIDEOS 👍😄🇫🇷
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That would stump allot of us. Great catch
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5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ruben
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this is a interesting one.
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Good job! How many times I troubleshoot and you have to watch out for tunnel vision. Can't find the problem because your looking for one problem and turns out it's two or more problems
Thanks teacher fron dominic repiblic
Air cooled split unit... Bad headmaster valves. They are notorious for those to fail. Recover and weigh in your charge on all ice machines and small reach in coolers and freezers you'll be glad you did. Once you have that right then the trouble shooting is so much easier. Trust me I've been doing this for many years.
Hi thank you for charing Knowledge , and I really learn a lot , I been working on hoshizaki KML-451 ABD I RECOVER THE CHARGE AND VACUUM AND FINALLY PUT THE FACTORRY CHARG (1L 8.7 OZ) WHEN A RUN IT THE PRESSUR WAS 58/200 after 30min and the compressor freez up, you think that's gonna be a bad txv as well? Thank you
I see more indoor service calls I guess since it’s your winter rainy season
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Bought a used Hoshizaki km1350mrh no beeps but the machine timed out and center 2 evaporators not making ice . Hot condenser head and now we don’t know what else to do
Long hoses would affect readings?
I don't now if i said this before but I'm not a hvac servicer, but i enjoy your videos, because they are very educational. Also did you have a viideo of you swapping those water lines?
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5 жыл бұрын
No I didnt video the swap, sorry
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Smell-o-meter? 🤣 Nice catch. The TX valve wouldn’t take an adjustment? I just worked on a walk-in evap TX Valve that was hunting no matter where I set it...
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5 жыл бұрын
It's a non adjustable valve, these machines are notorious for overfeeding txv's
Could the vapor from the water lines being swapped wear the seat of the expansion valve so that it flooded?
What the meaning in control box When i push around 5 second on panel number fucntion? Each number can u explain
Makes me wonder if the hotel technicians went as far as adjusting the valve superheat with the water lines reversed to try and compensate for the jacked up pressures.
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5 жыл бұрын
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i recently came across a manitowoc water cooled cube ice machine with the water lines swapped backwards. The head pressure regulating valve was hammering loudly. reminded me of an unbalanced washing machine on spin. idk if this caused the valve to fail, 12 yr old unit eh hard to say. goofy stuff out there.
Hey, do you ever try to adjust the txv or u just replace it? Thank you for your videos! Helps me a lot as a apprentice!
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5 жыл бұрын
This is a non adjustable one
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5 жыл бұрын
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the little pre-story is good! lets us know more info.
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5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
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Restaurant in hotels must be a pain to get to depending on how many floors to get to the top to find all the condensers
👍🇫🇷😁 i like more Scotman & Barline icemaker !
Isn’t valve installed backward. Arrow should be pointed to the condenser. Water inlet .
My the compressor is on but only hot water is running. Not turn cold
Gotta love when people don't quite understand how the water cooled ice machines work and do everything ass backwards or wrong. I had someone hook up a scotty with no water to the condenser and another one that has been getting scaled up like hell due to the fact some dumbass wasn't paying attention and hooked the filter output side to the condenser and the ice making part to the unfiltered part.
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5 жыл бұрын
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Stupid question should your compressor run on freeze cycles
Do you know if they have a Scotsman tech book
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4 жыл бұрын
Yes they do
How long was the service call?
@HVACRVIDEOS
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe 2 or 3 hours
Wire In a delay on make timer on that circuit and trick the board to run longer....gangster
I saw your comments on Paol's Junior post, get in touch, I will pay you well
Could the water lines being crossed damage the TXV?
@HVACRVIDEOS
5 жыл бұрын
No not really the Txv's have been known to fail on these machines. I will be going live on KZread this evening 4/22/19 @5:PM (west coast time) to discuss my most recent uploads and answer questions from emails and the chat. Come on over and check it out if you can kzread.info/dash/bejne/jK5omrVmftDScbw.html
@gbuss814
5 жыл бұрын
@@HVACRVIDEOS thank you. I always try to find out why things fail. I find most of the time the environment causes the issue.
Damn that was a head scratcher
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5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was the perfect example of how we need to analyze things methodically.
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5 жыл бұрын
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Hey Bro, I have a question for you. Have you ever converted a" Water cooled" to an "air Cooled" or added a Glycol Chiller to one?. Instead of dumping all that water down the Drain. "Hoshizaki, KML-450MWH. Thanks
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5 жыл бұрын
No I haven't
@marjones69
5 жыл бұрын
@@HVACRVIDEOS I am thinking it might be more doable with a small Glycol Chiller. Thoughts?
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5 жыл бұрын
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@marjones69
5 жыл бұрын
@@HVACRVIDEOS sorry bro i missed that unfortunately...was on a service call
What was the source of your condenser water? And where does the warm water go? Our facility has chillers so our chilled water for our condensers is 40-45 degrees.
@mauikawi4290
5 жыл бұрын
cooling tower bro
Sir ek ice machine me e1 ka error mr rha hai
Gene you sell me those Juniors??? Please, hook a brotha up.
How to extend freeze cycle for a hoshIzaki model #kml541mah
Why do they send someone out who do not know what they are doing, and its not just refrigeration.
My boy looking like khabib
I’ve had a dozen ice makers in a HILTON connected the same way a few years back. Owners are trying to save money by giving the install to plumbers already on site. 🧐 WRONG
An ice machine not a nice machine.
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Multiple offender
It's global warming.........
From the technical side your vids are good , but for me you speak too much sometimes and in a quick way . you should speak less , just saying the necessary words . Thank you
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