Lovely woman. So modest. Her little library. Hah. Her vast store of knowledge is what I see and hear. So gracious how she fields troubling questions and brilliant in refusing the easy reductive answers. It’s a critical culture thing just so you know. In one BlackDiaspora culture we say: “ I said what I said.” Thank you for a lovely wake up with my tea. Almost like a prayer.

Enjoying discovering Hortense Spillers fresh air thinking.

My thoughts on the first guy's question (43:17): I think one of the justifications for the term "black culture" (or "critical culture" as "black culture") is that the drama of the usage immediately shows those who might think of themselves as supporting a "human culture" that they aren't necessarily (or entirely) for the thing they articulate. I think the "black" part is useful considering the narratives/histories that the West has built around words like "human"--that is, it is fair to say that the West usually associates "human" with whiteness (or non-blackness). By racializing the "post human," I think Spillers is drawing attention to the "libidinal" qualities (to use a term from the Afro-pessimists) of words like "human," which is already (quietly) racial. By getting rid of the "black" in culture or dissociate critical culture with black culture, she would be reinforcing the very language I think she is trying to problematize. Also, I think "black culture" (as Spillers' uses it) reveals something about the problems (and contradictions with) liberalism (in America). But even the guy's question hints at the problem: For example, why would the term "alienate" people? The answer to that question is the thing the term is intended to probe/get at. In short, I think it's a way to indirectly deconstruct "blackness" and poke fun at the linguistic transmutability of whiteness.

@commanderthorkilj.amundsen3426

2 жыл бұрын

Your comments indicate difficulty in articulating a coherent theme, using descriptive terms out of context, and spiraling down into the predictable whining about WP. Dr. Spiller (most articulate, with a very pleasant vocal delivery) would do well to emphasize, there is no static black culture, and no spatio-temporal black culture per se, nor a black community, just as there is no LGBT community, unless one is constructed with a nebulous, cloudlike collective of persons sharing similar ideas of oppression, collective negativity and perceived disparity. Black persons are heterogenous, dynamic, changing over time, and social circumstance. Continuing the skin tone qualifier-terms and assignment of borglike hive-minded mentality and failure to become part of the greater human family will perpetuate the problems and circumstances.

@commanderthorkilj.amundsen3426

2 жыл бұрын

@@kipwonder2233 Instead of whining, projecting, and continuing the tiresome blaming and citing of system-based reasons for the socials ills and perceived disparities of many black persons, you would benefit from something outside your biased viewpoint: Thomas Sowell has been writing on this topic for decades, and presents factual information that will no doubt cause you considerable dysphagia.

@maycross9012

2 жыл бұрын

I think I see a lot of what you are getting at in Sylvia Wynter's ReEnchantment of Humanism Interview

@Jamluji

2 жыл бұрын

​@@commanderthorkilj.amundsen3426 ok. A lot to unpack here. Would you mind sharing some texts, papers ans authors who write on similar themes?

@tmsphere

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jamluji Adolph Reed Jr, Zora Neal Hurston, Ralph Ellison, James Baldwin, Dr Spillers to name a few.

Thank you so much for this video. It is just fantastic. Consciousness shifting. Love from Azania

A worthy investigation. The more we know 💯

What theorist does she mention at 39:36? The one that is critical of culture? Struggling to google the person's name or spell it correctly.

@kathleensamson9881

2 жыл бұрын

It's Michel de Certeau :)

Critical presentation

23:00

Hero

Loving this! Food for my head.

when the man asks about postgenocidal but I think she said postHolocaust

Wow. A Lot Of White People In Attendance

@Peacekeepa317

3 жыл бұрын

they study us more than we do unfortunately.

@Peacekeepa317

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertedwards9055 Complaining about what we've known the system to be for 400 years is redundant and weak at this point. Especially as an excuse to remain ignorant and not study ALL factors to escape said system.

@Peacekeepa317

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertedwards9055 I'm black stating an obvious and observable reality.

@Peacekeepa317

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertedwards9055 you need to save your words and false veneer of intellectual superiority for your children or someone else who give a fuck. I don't.

@Peacekeepa317

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertedwards9055 So you pretend your subjective views are fact in order to "educate" strangers out of their perspective you come across in a youtube comments section for a living? None of what you typed means anything to me. Your pomp is hilarious.

If it is defined as a critical posture, why do you just not talk about critical posture and then apply it to the black population? Why do you need to add black culture? I don't get it.

"black culture is in dialogue or conversation with a number of other spaces along the cultural repertoire"? More post modernist gibberish. Someone want to explain that statement? Maybe she should start with a definition of 'culture' ... That would seem to be pretty crucial in this context.

@tmsphere

2 жыл бұрын

How ab getting a brain first?

@DocnoXXX

2 жыл бұрын

@@tmsphere Have a PhD in the behavioural sciences. That means definitions and falsifiability (in the Popperian sense) are important to me. Want to pursue this further? I'm happy to play...Don't be a coward' Let's have it on...

@danpatrick24

9 ай бұрын

@@DocnoXXX This talk is being given in a classroom setting to people who are already familiar with her work, which contends with the complexity and meaning of “culture.” Perhaps you would benefit from reading her original work? bcrw.barnard.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Practicing%20Refusal%20Working%20Group/Spillers_IdeaofBlackCulture.pdf

@KCCCX

8 ай бұрын

@@DocnoXXXwhat does u having a degree in science entrenched in Asian & European Racism for almost 1000 years have to do with knowing blackness? Your phd means absolutely nothing if you even have one. Reply with your Academic account instead of hiding your identity

@DocnoXXX

8 ай бұрын

@@KCCCX What the hell is an “academic account” for KZread? And even if there was such a thing, why would I want to use it here when I’m expressing my views in a private capacity. Furthermore, not all PhD holders work in academia… I did my time as a professor, but now run a consultancy specialising in psychological assessment. But all that aside, please explain/translate the statement I quoted. Go ahead. I’m looking forward to being enlightened. Educate me.

They're all white!!!

@Jamluji

2 жыл бұрын

Because white people value knowledge. They value myth making and knowledge production. That's why they always beat us at this game

@tmsphere

2 жыл бұрын

A one way plane ticket to Accra is not expensive, if other skin shades make you so uncomfortable.

@KCCCX

8 ай бұрын

@@tmspherebro stfu stay in arab business.