Horror Timelines Episode 15 : the Puppet Master series
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Join me as I work my way through the fractured continuity of the long running Puppet Master series, and try to place the scattered timeline into some form of order.
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I'd couldn't watch all these movies in one sitting. It would take Toulon.
@Emulous79
2 жыл бұрын
@Connor Okuniewicz It took Toulon for anyone to comment but thanks anyway.
@dillponis7286
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao 🤣 I see what you did there
@LadyNachtlich
Жыл бұрын
I totally give you props for trying to make sense of this franchise timeline. It’s as if each new movie was a fanfic of the original.
That moment when you love a series so much that you didn't even notice the messed up timeline.
@batinuno
5 жыл бұрын
I know
@thesaxophonist343
5 жыл бұрын
I mean its a horror movie Which almost always is fucked up
@draven4897
4 жыл бұрын
There's a timeline?
@ScareBear1982
4 жыл бұрын
Yes now that all these have come out i'm kind of disappointed that this series wasn't consistent
I loved Puppet Master 3 so much as a kid that I started to write a screenplay about them being bought at a yard sale by an abused housewife and them saving her and her unborn kids but I never finished it. I still even have the Torch and Jester action figures 🤦🏽♀️
@mattandgarretttakethemovies84
2 жыл бұрын
Damn that sounds dope 🤘🏻. I remember years back watching Freddy vs Jason and writing my own script. Don’t be ashamed of doing something you love 🤙🏻
@Goddessvenom
2 жыл бұрын
@@mattandgarretttakethemovies84 thank you and I would love to see your version of Freddie vs Jason!
@mattandgarretttakethemovies84
2 жыл бұрын
@@Goddessvenom I wish I could find the old notebook that wrote the script in. I lost it somewhere at my parents house. I remember my idea was to get get survivors from both franchises and Freddy & Jason are going on rampage through the us. The group of survivors is going after them.
"The Invisible Man shows up..." I laughed so freaking hard I literally questioned myself why it was that funny to me.
Realizing this beloved series of movies taught me the fear of being chased at night while going to the bathroom. I would reach the bed and quickly bring my feet up expecting to dodge something😳
@WiredLain_
Жыл бұрын
i would always leap onto my bed from a few feet away so nothing could grab my feet for sure ahahah
Interesting that Halloween 4 and Halloween 5 were filmed back to back, released one year apart, and then after a few years break, the 6th movie comes out called Curse of...
Is there something wrong with me that I loved all the movies?!?’
@thesaxophonist343
5 жыл бұрын
No not at all
@TheNuketendo
3 жыл бұрын
Always loved these movies growing up so no. Also loved the Subspecies series, as well as the Demonic Toys. Love this shit
@TheMajorBlazer
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Only the first three movies are worth watching
@TheMajorBlazer
2 жыл бұрын
@MrTophat no, only the first three
@jackraiser4391
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMajorBlazer Nah, even those are garbage.
3:50 According to TVTropes and the Wiki, the comics explained that the reason for his behavior in PM2, is that his brain was rotted.
@movietimelines
6 жыл бұрын
yeah, i love when there's comics to add to a franchise, and the puppet master comics are damn cool, but i made it part of my "rules" to not use book, comic, or video game spinoffs, and just stick with what's stating in the film entries, although i'll use tv appearances if they're considered a part of the series.
@werlost
5 жыл бұрын
Its just my headcanon but they could have made it so somehow the bad guy from the first movie transferred his essence or something to toulons body or something and that's why toulon was evil in pm2
@RoosterMontgomery
7 ай бұрын
Toulon being a reanimated corpse was reason enough for his behavior. Perhaps by the time his spirit inhabited Decapitron, he became his old self again. Buy that for $1?
Thanks for settling an argument with my siblings for me.
@movietimelines
7 жыл бұрын
haha. glad to help. what was the argument?
@CogSpartan
7 жыл бұрын
The conflicting dates of the modern sequels to the ww2 era films. I was pretty close on the order but totally forgot the scifi channel crossover demonic toys one.
@Chaingun
6 жыл бұрын
IMO pm vs dt is canon only with 1-3. why i think this is 1. it was written by the guy who wrote pm3 as a pm4, but they went with the Sutekh story 2. the reason it is toulon blood and not sutekh's spell is because it was written prior to pm4 3. the reason tunneler and leech aren't in it is they died in 2 4. Torch was on the poster & script & he was the one who burnt down the lab not six-shooter 5. Robert Toulon says about the time the puppets fought nazis in WW2 a pm3 reference So if people say its not canon and not official, punch them very hard in the face. it is canon with 1-3. Charles Band produced it. Ted (Subspecies) directed it, and Jeff & Chris (Retro PM) did the effects and C Courtney (writer of pm3/trancers 3) wrote it. The only reason CB doesnt count it as official is he dont get paid by dvd sales. it is canon with 1-3 only.
@JessyDupre
5 жыл бұрын
Demonic Toys wasn't a Sci-fi channel cross over... I only know that because they were selling it on VHS... nearly 15 years before Sci-fi Channel even existed. I used to own the entire series on VHS because Puppetmaster is one of my favorite series...
@mr.chocolateman8300
4 жыл бұрын
Protector Drone, Tunneler is in part 4. Torch and Leech Woman aren't in part 4 though. Torch is in the 5th one though, which is basically the same as part 4.
I'm a man who likes bad movies but holy cow I can't believe you put yourself through all those movies trying to make sense of that. Thanks for your noble sacrifice.
@epicninjasenseidinosaurpup6957
6 жыл бұрын
Anthony Petruccione the moives arent bad its just that the time line is confusing
@epicninjasenseidinosaurpup6957
6 жыл бұрын
X the first 5 were really good
@sofang930
6 жыл бұрын
+Anthony Petruccione - Indeed, my thanks to him as well. This is by far the worst timeline story of a franchise. It show that the people involved making the franchise did not do their research. Just throw everything into the blender and winged it. I still want my sequel from, "PM II" damn it! Whatever happened to Camille and her sadistic plan about the children? Tragic, it would have been an interesting story.
@austinwillcut4919
6 жыл бұрын
Sofang go on Amazon and you'll see there is a graphic novel called Puppet Master: The Wooden Boy that continues the Camille story, they just didn't put it on film unfortunately.
@sofang930
6 жыл бұрын
+austin willcut - For real? I'll go check it out. Thank you.
if i was to rank them then: 1. Toulon's Revenge 2. 2 3. 1 4. 4 5. The Fnal Chapter 6. Curse 7. Retro 8. Axis of Evil 9. Axis Rising 10. VS 11. Axis Termination 12. Legacy and I hope Littlest Reich is high on the list!
If you have the chance, I suggest reading the comics by Action Lab. Not sure if Charles Band considers them canon, but they do the series justice by tying things together and explaining certain things (such as why Toulon was evil in II and where Torch came from, implications of why Six Shooter is sometimes absent, and other stuff)
@movietimelines
7 жыл бұрын
yeah. i'm digging the series. i actually even have the old eternity comics series, as well as their trancers comics from way back when. i used to be a huge full moon junkie.
You've saved me so much time by doing these videos. Thank you so much
Loved the Puppet Master films since I was young (well, the first 5), but didn't know Tunneler's name for years, so I knew him as Drill Sergeant, which I prefer. :P
And then the new one from this year Puppet Master: The Littlest Reich
This guy knows more about the movie then the people that makes/writes the movie.... gez... thanks dude!
I love this series!!❣️
I think the third is the best of the series and six shooter is the best puppet second is blade
I wish I was into these movies when the toys were made, I could have had my very own Blade!
I was always scared of these when I was growing up, although I don’t think I ever fully watched any of them.
i have no idea why, but this dumb series of movies has a special place in my heart.
These are my own kind and I'm happy I finally found them
Alright for those of you who have never heard of or have never seen the puppet master series I definitely recommend you to watch every single one of them it is a great great series series it is by the full moon corporation which is not around anymore but they had made some of the best horror movies around and puppet master is 1 of the greatest if you've never seen it then year definitely made to see it I know it's an older movie but I still think it's just highly ranked and recommended I gave it a 13 out of 13 skulls everything about it is great you've just fallen in love with these Poppets
Very glad I completed the Film Series, definitely loved Blade Puppet Master Spinoff. 🙂🙂🙂👍👍👍
I give them credit for occasionally trying to tie the movies together, although it seems like they only knew parts and not specifics of the individual movies
So cool yes
I so love The Puppet Master Movies!
Retro Puppet Master Puppet Master III: Toulon's Revenge Puppet Master: Axis of Evil Puppet Master X: Axis Rising Puppet Master: Axis Termination Puppet Master - October 12, 1989 Dollman - November 27, 1991 Demonic Toys - March 12, 1992 Bad Channels - June 25, 1992 Dollman vs. Demonic Toys - October 13, 1993 Curse of the Puppet Master - May 26, 1998 Puppet Master II: His Unholy Creations - February 7, 1991 Puppet Master 4: The Demon - November 24, 1993 Puppet Master 5: The Final Chapter - September 21, 1994 Hideous! - 1997 Totem - September 28, 1999 Puppet Master: The Legacy - December 16, 2003 Puppet Master vs Demonic Toys - December 18, 2004 Demonic Toys 2: Personal Demons - January 26, 2010 Puppet Master: The Littlest Reich - 2018 (This A big Budget Reboot semi-sequel takes place 40 years after the 1st film producer by transformer producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura and Charles Band)
@bernardoportillo8001
5 жыл бұрын
????- Puppet Master Vs Chucky Is Finally Made
I really love the idea of the puppet master movies…sure there were silly movies, especially in the 90’s but the whole idea of it is awesome…
I thought blade was the puppet master for some reason
Just got out of the new one! IT'S SOOOOOOO GOOD!
I love the puppet master series
Loved the series as a kid, but I always knew it was messed up...lol
I love that you included the crossover in this! Have you thought about about doing either the Critters series or the Tremors series?
@movietimelines
7 жыл бұрын
yes. i'll be covering both of those, although i may wait until the new tremors film hits.
I knew I would make this eventually. Going with the Elm Street series this TIMELINE is confusing. But not as confusing as the movies.
Thanks, this makes sense.
I need to see these movies they look interesting
I still remember renting every one of the Puppet Master movies when they first started coming out to rent. I love 1-5 but the rest just weren't the same. My only gripe has been I wished they would have stuck with the Stop Motion Animation. That to me is what made me love it to begin with. My favorite scene in the first movie is where the lady see's Blade for the first time and just how they animated him just had me at "man that was really cool." I have been a fan of stop motion animation since Wallace and Gromit but I still want to see Axis Rising and Axis Termination. But has anyone seen Axis Termination trailer? There are parts where they have people on either a green screen or blue screen in Blade and Tunneler costumes special effects to make them look small running around. Its too silly and just dumb effects. I know that they are B type movies but they look shitty. Oh well I'll still give it a look.
I just like the designs pf the puppets
The revived Toulon doesn’t have his soul. This is why he doesn’t care about Leech Woman’s destruction.
In the curse of the puppet master, they didn't kill him for no reason. His failed puppet was a failed attempt to fuse a boy and a doll together. If you watch the movie, they talk about a guy before tank that aparently "left". The puppets are angry with him for not only abusing and failing to create life, but also destroying one of there fellow puppets.
I cant believe I watched this whole thing.
Man you put some time on your stuff I get a kick out of it... and I am really glad I never got into those movies haha
@movietimelines
7 жыл бұрын
thanks! glad you're enjoying the series. if you ever want to watch a puppet master movie, i really didn't mind the first 3 too much. they were bad, but still a lot of fun.
Puppet Master 1-3:*Fighting over the franchise being Sci Fi or Supernatural* Puppet Master 4: Why not both?!
This video will need constant updates, because they keep making puppet master movies.
I would love to seen them redo the puppet master in a TV series or a new stream of movies, with the technology we have today they could do some amazing things
the bodega bay in is the green street hotel! in Pasadena near by! ohh I feel special now! great vid
@mr.chocolateman8300
6 жыл бұрын
It's called the Castle Green and you're right it is in Pasadena California. Bodega Bay Inn is just the name they gave it for the Puppet Master films. The second film was filmed in a totally different hotel that kind of resembles the Castle Green hotel that they filmed the first movie in.
@Chaingun
6 жыл бұрын
Boedga Bay is the place from the birds, it was named that as a tribute. pasadena was also where halloween was filmed btw
I love puppet master the puppets are just so cool it's worth sitting through bad acting.
Do a evil bong timeline.or the feast horror timeline
I love the horror movies from when I was a child
I heard a thirteen film is in production to be added to the franchise titled, "PM: The Littlest Reich" (set in a parallel universe) scheduled for release around 2018. I enjoyed the first three films (my favorite puppet is the Tunneler) then after that I lost interest in franchise.
@mansongang8493
6 жыл бұрын
Sofang I always liked tunneler, but I gotta say my favorite would be jester
@krazeeninja
5 жыл бұрын
It's out now
@fabiandelarosa4241
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah The Littlest Reich is out, and more Savage than the other prequels...and Blade looks like a badass in this one
GREAT WORK brotha! This was AMAZING! Very Well Researched And Put Together! I am actually on ( Re-Watching) the Full Puppet Series As I am Writing This. I have seen most of the Early ones hundreds of times. This Came Out Freakin' Perfect!!! GREAT JOB 👍🤓🤙🤘 Ps... They should have Never got rid of Rick though
I liked the Puppetmaster movies... but I might just be weird... or bias... because most of them came out when I was a kid and I really liked them. By the way... the puppets turned on the Doctor in the Curse of the Puppetmaster because he killed Tank who took better care of them than anyone and was even making more of them... something they approved of and he was in love with the Doctor's daughter... who love him back so by killing Tank the Doctor psychologically abused and maybe even broke his own daughter... something they didn't approve of because she cared for them just as much if not more than Tank did. So they didn't killed him for no reason. It was a revenge thing. Also... Retro Puppetmaster Aundre Toulon looked more like... Lestat from Interview with the Vampire. And they're not "action figures" they're "models" there is a difference.
my favorite puppet is six shooter because he is pretty much the only one that originally had guns
When Lawnmower man gets turned into a Metal NOT wooden puppet and the just Ends, cause they've ran out of ideas.
I love a cute horror nerd
In Puppet Paster 4 they were originally going to have the puppets battle the Demonic Toys instead of the totems. But for some reason that idea was scrapped and instead we got that crappy Syfy channel crossover. If only they could also work in the Blood Dolls then it would be a party.
i never understood where shreddar khan and gengie name came from, they were never said in the movies and were added on wiki by fans, though Kahn actually became his official name in the new comics
I grew up on the 2nd one. Didnt see the reat until I was like a preteen. So bummed when I found out they didnt use the set up from the end of 2
The way I rationalize the difference between Toulon in 2 and 3 is that he's been dead for a while so his brain is not functioning correctly. Therefore a personality change.
Loved the series. Yes it made no sense...lol.. but it was still fun.
You did a pretty good job, but you glazed over PM4 ignoring its continuity with PM3 and its lack of continuity with PM2. You say PM4 is set in "modern day", and place it upon its release year, but I think the movie was originally intended to take place before PM1, showing how the puppets were retrieved and reanimated 50-something years after Toulon's death. The timeline gets more messed up afterwards with Curse, but if we look at the originally intended 5 movies, I think the timeline is PM2flashback - PM3 - PM1prologue - PM4 - PM5 - PM1 - PM2. The only thing wrong is the presence of Torch in PM4 and PM5, while he should have been built in PM2, but on the other hand the alternative placement has Six-Shooter appearing out of nowhere and most importantly it lacks any continuity between PM2 and PM4. I think this alternate timeline can still work with the other sequels, but we need to work around some plot details from PM Legacy. However I liked very much that you still talked about Vs Demonic Toys, rather than just disregarding it because supposedly noncanon.
I feel like this just turned into some sort of fanfiction where they just forgot what happened but took the bits and pieces and made something out of it😂hence the messed up timelines
Will you be doing the Subspecies movies? If I remember correctly all four films are supposed to take place back to back.
I've only seen part of demonic toys when i was a kid
@movietimelines
6 жыл бұрын
it's silly, trash fun. if you like full moon movies, you'll enjoy it.
Thanks that clears up a bit how the series moves around, I thought there were like 13 or 14 parts because the names confuses
2 for the sequel win
pretty good vid dude and yea this series is a mess in continuity. Ill just go with the puppets beating the little demon puppets the final movie.
This is less confusing than the X-Men timeline
@movietimelines
5 жыл бұрын
yeah, that's one i'm not looking forward to.
The comic help with the errors
You can't just ignore the inconsistencies. There's no point trying to pretend they're cohesive in any way.
Oh hi Mark
I think your due for an update. A new one was just release
I was always bothered by how Andre was a massive jerk in 2, then in 4 and 5, he's good again
@melaniesmith3445
5 жыл бұрын
The answer is in the movie itself: 'My heart is not attuned to the merriments of children." Meaning they only revived his physical being, not his heart.
Plus Me and Spencer get 2 be the new puppet masters. Cause he made me Full Sized Wooden Puppets, Now that we got them we can go 2 The home 4 the Mentally unstable tots and Teens.
the first 3 are excellents why scrap after ...
How isn't Puppet Master vs Demonic Toys official if they licensed the rights to both franchises? It's not a fan film. I like to think takes place after 5 or 6.
I forgot the manchild from House III was in Toulon's Revenge.
Is there a certain order in which it should be watched? Because I’ve watched them 1 thru 11 and it was confusing at first
And Damn! That thing is disturbing😂😂😂😂😂😂
I always considered Curse,Retro,and the Axis trilogy to be in their own continuity,and legacy to be not canon also if you want to find out why their are such time discrepancy’s the comics explain it (yes I know they weren’t around at the time of the majority of the series creation but if in universe you want to make sense of it the comics are their)
I feel part 2 comes after part 4 and 5. It makes no sense for Andre to help the puppets after the puppets killed him at the end of part 2
I seen the entire movie of retro Puppet master
These movies were crazy. Not sure if I want to see the new one..since it’s not made by the same company . Weird, both companies are making their own puppet master videos
I'm not sure if you ever got around to watching the one that came out just recently, but it ended up being called "Puppet Master, the Littlest Reich". It was an "alternate universe" where Tulon was a nazi and blah blah, skip it!
will you do an update with Puppet Masters Axis Termination and Puppet Masters The Littlest Reich
@movietimelines
6 жыл бұрын
most likely. i'm planning on doing updates on all the series that have had installments since i've begun this channel.
@omegasynth2775
5 жыл бұрын
The Littlest Reich is a reboot though
Number 2 should just be the 1st 1, and then there's Curse of; Um....I liked it, but then the ending gets confusing.
I haven't watched the Axis Trilogy yet or Littlest Reich, but part 3 was my favorite of the series... versus Demonic Toys was the worst.... Curse, Retro, and Legacy were pretty painful to sit through as well.
You mentioned doing Wishmaster at some point, is that next on the docket? Do you have a list of timelines that you're going to tackle? I assume that you're going to eventually tackle the more famous series like Hellraiser, Children of the Corn, Amityville Horror, etc. However, I think it would be more interesting, to me at least, if you tackled those weird series where the first movie is very acclaimed and the sequels are all shameless cash-grabs. For example, Psycho has a lot of really stupid sequels, same with Poltergeist, The Exorcist and maybe, to a lesser extent, The Omen and The Prophecy. You did this with Jaws, and I thought it was fascinating. Any chance of you doing The Fly for the next Mini-Timeline? Fly II is seriously bizarre.
@movietimelines
7 жыл бұрын
one of the first things i did when i started the channel was make a master list of franchises that i wanted to cover. most of the ones you mentioned are on the list. in fact, amityville was supposed to be out 2 weeks ago, but i wanted to time it up to the release of the new movie, and that got bumped, so i pushed back the video. i do also love the series where it starts out really respectable, and then just spirals out of control in the sequels. i will also let you know that one of the franchises you mentioned in your second paragraph will be my very next video. oh, i actually didn't have the fly on my list, but you can bet it's on there now. the only question now is to just cover the modern versions, or do the whole franchise and include the original and son of fly?
@WolfPred
7 жыл бұрын
Movie Timelines I saw try and connect the original, that's always fun
how about a demonic toys timeline explain video.
In the second one, someone mentions Toulon dying in 1941, so the timeline had already been retconned as per the second movie.
Ive only seen up to 11 but it would be interesting if they connect those to pm1. Have danny and his girlfriend by the grandparents of megan Gallagher
Take this example....Oh we needed....Pinnochios Revenge because people loved Chucky movies! Then we slapped The Zoe's crazy, or The Mom was SO fucking stupid that it made her crazy...or whatever....I DON'T care! Did we need Rumplestiltskin, because we had Leprechaun....Did we need that Leprechaun Remake? Do we need that New Sequal? Some people say it's Harmless but is it Really? This is why we're getting so many bad horror films people and No I am NOT gonna clean up your messes EVERY time you make them, You people make me sick! God! I NEED a drink!🍺
There is a new puppet master that eas reales in 2018
do an updated version
Curse happens I'm between part 1 and 2
I never considered puppet master 2 to be canon because it made no sense to make tulon a villan.
@GetPhiledIn
3 жыл бұрын
It's explained in the comics that his brain was so decomposed that he wasn't thinking straight.
seriously how did how did these movies get greenlit
Since 1939 thing is reversing maybe tulon killed himself in 1946
Actually there was a good reason and revenge of the puppet master why the public's turn on their keeper he deliberately kill someone ahead help one of their own out so not surprisingly they did not take that well