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Horizontal Boring Mill Restoration: Unboxing & Inspecting the Freshly Ground Mill Table

Horizontal Boring Mill Restoration: Unboxing & Inspecting the Freshly Ground Mill Table
I received the table for my Lucas Model 31 Horizontal Boring Mill back from Kinetic Company after having it precision ground flat on the top and also the ways on the bottom ground parallel to the top. In this video, we will unbox it and take a look at how great of a job Kinetic did!
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  • @KnifemakerKinetic
    @KnifemakerKinetic2 жыл бұрын

    LOL, I like the term "ringleader" I do have a great team working with me on many of these projects and keeping all the gear running in the shop. It is great to see this coming together, another small box just went out today.

  • @rickburris6164
    @rickburris61642 жыл бұрын

    Like a kid on Christmas opening a much anticipated new toy.

  • @natedoerfler652
    @natedoerfler6522 жыл бұрын

    A kinetic shop tour would be cool!

  • @garthbutton699
    @garthbutton6992 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for taking your time to create this video🤗😎🤗😎

  • @TheMadJestyr
    @TheMadJestyr2 жыл бұрын

    If you cut two identical pieces of bar (anything that will fit in the t-slots. You can space the "eye" bolts pretty accurately and pick the table up so that it is perfectly level. It also prevents the bolts from sliding together which would cause an accident. On a table this small it isn't that important. But some of the horizontals that I work on have tables big enough to set a full size pickup truck on. And those you need to make damn sure that you are picking it up evenly and securely.

  • @KG-yn9qi
    @KG-yn9qi2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Keith! To mark your lift chain on chain fall. If you paint every 18” or so, with red and green stripes. With green on bottom and red on top on down side. All way the length of the loop. The quick look, green shows the way to pull /what chain to pull for lift or lower! As green on bottom for down! Green above for lift and red will be wrong way! Had to do this because employees never know what chain to pull !

  • @rizdalegend
    @rizdalegend2 жыл бұрын

    My Uncle retired from Kinetic, and I grew up a mile down the road from there. Pretty cool

  • @jamesmoe9188
    @jamesmoe91882 жыл бұрын

    Always a fantastic day when Mr. Keith brings us into the shop! Thank you for letting us take this journey with you!

  • @ShadonHKW
    @ShadonHKW2 жыл бұрын

    Your reaction when the table landed home gave me a chuckle, only people like us would find joy in this. Looking forward to the Turcite.

  • @loydsa
    @loydsa2 жыл бұрын

    Lovely job on that grinding, it must be exciting for you to see the progress Keith.

  • @floridaflywheelersantiquee7578
    @floridaflywheelersantiquee75782 жыл бұрын

    The grinding looks good thanks for sharing

  • @johncloar1692
    @johncloar16922 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Keith for sharing!

  • @MyLilMule
    @MyLilMule2 жыл бұрын

    Round trip shipping from GA to WI plus the grinding - that has to cost a LOT of money! But this machine will be good for another 80 years!

  • @PatrickPoet

    @PatrickPoet

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've gotten really good rates by calling up moving companies and asking them if they had any incomplete loads on trucks going my way. They love to fill up space and make a bit more money.

  • @petert3355

    @petert3355

    2 жыл бұрын

    With the care Keith and guys like him give these machines, they could easily last hundreds of years. All it takes is a little love and attention.

  • @johnwilcox4078
    @johnwilcox40782 жыл бұрын

    Just discovered your channel today, wow, nice to see people who know about these things! I was a scaper hand in my 20's , for about 6 years. First in Cleveland Ohio rebuilding mostly Warner and Swasey turret lathes, then scraping new DoAll surface grinders in Mn,, also rebuilding, scraping, and alignment at Midwestern Machinery in Minneapolis. At DoAll, Turkite was installed as an option instead of regular scraped ways on the table ways, we had a high opinion of Turkite at the time, it was easy to scrape to a good bearing surface, We tested each new machine for accuracy and tried to keep 2 to 3 tenths the full length and width of the surface, largest we made was 10"×30". Still have my scraping tools, blue paste, and red lead!

  • @malliz1
    @malliz12 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Keith

  • @WayneT51
    @WayneT512 жыл бұрын

    I think you were happy to get that on Keith.😂🤣😅

  • @Farm_fab
    @Farm_fab2 жыл бұрын

    Keith, having surplus lumber is usually a good thing. I helped do a clean out of a business, and gathered up a very nice bunch of lumber, including some poplar that was milled around WW2. It was done then as most pine or construction woods were used for the military, and softer material often got used like this poplar. I used most of this lumber to put shelves up in my shop, so the only things I hD to buy were screws for the assembly. It's so nice to have my stuff up off the floor. the roof leaks, so this is also a good thing.

  • @RobertBrown-lf8yq
    @RobertBrown-lf8yq2 жыл бұрын

    Keith, It is great to have a channel that shows, ( in detail), such work on large machinery. Thank you for taking the extra time and effort to produce these videos. Regards Robert

  • @sintaxera
    @sintaxera2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why this is the best content on youtube.

  • @williamdodd8660

    @williamdodd8660

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed it is.

  • @paulcopeland9035

    @paulcopeland9035

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is honest and real for starters!

  • @marknielsen9762
    @marknielsen97622 жыл бұрын

    After hearing you talk about them, I had Kinetic do a job for me. I just this month picked up my 1955 South Bend 9A lathe bed. They did a great regrind job on it and also located and drilled the holes necessary for the taper attachment locating pins which were missing on my saddle. As I live just outside Chicago, I was able to deliver the lathe bed myself and later pick it up when they finished. It's a three-footer, so I can lift it myself. A side benefit is Bendtsen's bakery, which is in Racine, between Chicago and Milwaukee, which makes excellent Danish kringle. I recommend the almond and the pecan.

  • @CHICOB4261
    @CHICOB42612 жыл бұрын

    I had to chuckle over how excited you got over the table when you “mocked” it up😂

  • @tectalabyss
    @tectalabyss2 жыл бұрын

    Looks great !

  • @nobuckle40
    @nobuckle402 жыл бұрын

    There are always many oohs and aahs when ever something comes back from the grinding house. This is one such case. If you are like me, you almost hate to put anything on it for fear of scratching it. Looking forward to seeing it scraped in and placed on the machine.

  • @DAKOTANSHELBY
    @DAKOTANSHELBY2 жыл бұрын

    I always enjoy un-boxing videos and this one did not disapoint. Thanks Keith.

  • @robfrancis8830
    @robfrancis88302 жыл бұрын

    Called Kinetic and it was about $1500 for a south bend lathe 3ft bed. There's also Shaefer Grinding in Los Angeles area

  • @paulcopeland9035

    @paulcopeland9035

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you're in LA, round trip shipping to Milwaukee would be prohibitive I think! Grinding sounds reasonable so it might be a tough call.

  • @petemclinc

    @petemclinc

    2 жыл бұрын

    Almost makes rebuilding cost prohibited if reselling lathes. Need to get your own Thompson grinder.

  • @mikecabe6127
    @mikecabe61272 жыл бұрын

    Keith I sure am enjoying the restoration ......Thanks from Warner Robins GA!!!!!!

  • @marcpavlik8776
    @marcpavlik87762 жыл бұрын

    So none of our business Keith, but curiosity killed the cat, hopefully satisfaction will bring it back. How much would your scraping and the grinding be in dollar amount? What would a brand new machine run in comparison? Would a new machine be of same, better or worse quality as this old baby? Great videos on its progress and your ability and attention to the details. It's like watching paint dry......and I'm a professional painter, I love it!

  • @bcbloc02

    @bcbloc02

    2 жыл бұрын

    A new lucas that size is about $120k

  • @railfan439
    @railfan4392 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, Kieth. I learn something new with almost every one of your videos. See you at the next Bar-Z. Jon

  • @robertgrogan335
    @robertgrogan3352 жыл бұрын

    @21:45. Thank you Keith for the opportunity to watch and learn along the way.

  • @KennyEaton603
    @KennyEaton6032 жыл бұрын

    Keith is such a rugged guy that I half expect him to just pick this stuff up 🤣

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper7802 жыл бұрын

    Great video Keith, keep'um coming..

  • @waynephillips2777
    @waynephillips27772 жыл бұрын

    Everything looks great.

  • @longwell2937
    @longwell2937 Жыл бұрын

    You are expert

  • @alstonofalltrades3142
    @alstonofalltrades31422 жыл бұрын

    Of course! you can use the bed you just had ground super accurate to 10,000th of an inch... I was thinking in previous episodes it would be one of his straight edges, maybe that arc collomomator thing I could do with a refresh watch on how to use it. But the bed never thought of that and I remember the planer bed episode being ground down so precise. That's out of the box thinking to me.

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @Stefan_Boerjesson
    @Stefan_Boerjesson2 жыл бұрын

    Big boys, big parcels... Nice to have such friends/contacts doing such jobs. Time 10:30, lowering the precious table.... I suppose You cleaned all surfaces involved thoroughly.... Being hot, "honey", on things is not Your way I think... Time 11:00. Which chain to pull...... I know the problem..... Ought to have been solved. Why not have a kind of spreader keep the two chains apart? Scrape the top side? Scrape the precise work of Your collaborators? Due to the bed scraping I suppose. You signed off with a warm smile that travels out to us. Looking forward to the next part of this work.

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-45602 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing.👍👀

  • @6NBERLS
    @6NBERLS2 жыл бұрын

    Most excellent.

  • @bin_chicken80
    @bin_chicken802 жыл бұрын

    Nice work Keith. Your videos are always interesting. Thanks!

  • @tpobrienjr
    @tpobrienjr2 жыл бұрын

    Looks nice.

  • @varmint243davev7
    @varmint243davev72 жыл бұрын

    Nice ! --- What's going on with the Jimmy DiResta bandsaw ?

  • @garybrenner6236

    @garybrenner6236

    2 жыл бұрын

    And the Stoker engine?

  • @randallanderson4999

    @randallanderson4999

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@garybrenner6236 I believe this HBM is what will be used on the Stoker Engine.

  • @colmornane5684
    @colmornane56842 жыл бұрын

    Hi Keith, Didn't you have a job for the boring mill??? Oh rebuilding it is the job. Nice work by Cash again. A Fan from Aus.

  • @andrewshelley410

    @andrewshelley410

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure this entire channel is rebuilding a machine to rebuild a machine to rebuild a machine to .... finally ... machine that stoker engine.

  • @danielcobbins9050

    @danielcobbins9050

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewshelley410 I was wondering about the steam stoker myself. Been awhile since I saw any videos on that.

  • @ypop417
    @ypop4172 жыл бұрын

    Nice grinding job on that table Keith!

  • @premierd8988
    @premierd89882 жыл бұрын

    think you need to let it hit the ways again Keith....😉😉

  • @ellieprice363
    @ellieprice3632 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great learning experience. I’ve heard of Turcite but never seen it used. Looking forward to seeing how that works.

  • @williamdodd8660

    @williamdodd8660

    2 жыл бұрын

    He also has it on the saddle of his lathe.

  • @crocketteerden6240
    @crocketteerden62402 жыл бұрын

    I would put some paper between the table and the wood to prevent rust.

  • @gregeconomeier1476
    @gregeconomeier14762 жыл бұрын

    Willingness to use your own money to purchase a product is the only meaningful endorsement. All the other endorsements are just hot air. Best of luck to you and yours.

  • @tropifiori
    @tropifiori2 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see the machine big enough to grind such a large part.

  • @olevjorgensen

    @olevjorgensen

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @petemclinc
    @petemclinc2 жыл бұрын

    I would be concerned picking up such a heavy casting by the T slots. You would definitely hate yourself if a T nut busted out. I would remove the crate sides, pry up from underneath on a non ground surface and secure a pair of traps under it at the far ends. Less risk slinging it from underneath.

  • @BedsitBob
    @BedsitBob2 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised at you Keith, putting tools on your granite surface plate.

  • @catfishgray3696
    @catfishgray36962 жыл бұрын

    TELL EVERYBODY HELLO, PET THE CATS AND DOGS, LOOKS GREAT, LET'S GO TO WORK...

  • @YPllayer
    @YPllayer2 жыл бұрын

    How much did it cost to have the table ground top and bottom?

  • @capitanschetttino8745
    @capitanschetttino87452 жыл бұрын

    Hello Mr Rucker. It is in your plans to return to the Stoker Engine? Thank you in advance!

  • @barrystevens2780
    @barrystevens27802 жыл бұрын

    Those are shackles

  • @srfurley
    @srfurley2 жыл бұрын

    How much does that table weigh? It’s a big chunk of iron.

  • @MikeBaxterABC
    @MikeBaxterABC2 жыл бұрын

    2:50 sand it up? .. that's like $20 worth of pine just the lid! :)

  • @philr6829
    @philr68292 жыл бұрын

    Another great video - fairly new follower. I watched the whole series with the 48” bandsaw - but it didn’t seem to get finished. Am I missing the videos or is it still in progress?

  • @jameswilliams2415
    @jameswilliams24152 жыл бұрын

    Where do you purchase your turcite and adhesives?

  • @B5Blue1968
    @B5Blue19682 жыл бұрын

    You should really use gloves when pulling that banding from around a pallet. If it gets caught on something, you could slice your hand wide open, it happened to a friend of mine years ago he got 8 or 10 stitches from it.

  • @rickdenney5772
    @rickdenney57722 жыл бұрын

    If I may presume to ask, why would you scrape the work surface? It seems to me there are two purposes for scraping: 1. to make the surface flat, and 2. to hold way oil in use. This isn't a way surface, so there is no need to hold oil, and it should already be ground flat. But I would think the ground surface will make it easier to move workpieces and holding clamps around on that table. I get that you want to use the top of the table as a surface plate to check the ways, but shouldn't you at least test the surface for flatness before deciding to scrape it? If they already ground it within a few tenths, can't you just blue it up like it is?

  • @petemclinc

    @petemclinc

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's a lot of surface area to scrape, overkill in my opinion. Sure, it would be great to have another reference surface but he already has that huge granite surface plate. I bet when he's half way into scraping that, he has second thoughts and sore muscles.

  • @alonsoquesada1136
    @alonsoquesada11362 жыл бұрын

    How much for that grinding job? $6k maybe?

  • @paulcopeland9035

    @paulcopeland9035

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't remember him offering that type of information. Probably best if you got your own quote.

  • @BigBoss-rh7zq
    @BigBoss-rh7zq2 жыл бұрын

    No need to grind that table if you want to scrap the top and add turcite on the bottom. I would have just send out to make an accurate milling on a large machine tool...and save some money. Scratching the surface before epoxy the turcite is strongly recommended.

  • @armageddontools
    @armageddontools2 жыл бұрын

    Since they were grinding ti why not weld those ugly endmill marks someone put ?

  • @paulcopeland9035

    @paulcopeland9035

    2 жыл бұрын

    I need to pay better attention. I didn't catch what beauty show this was going to enter?

  • @eliduttman315

    @eliduttman315

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not only that. It will be a very cold day in Hell that Mr. Rucker welds cast iron.

  • @petemclinc

    @petemclinc

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought that too, he could have brazed in some silicon bronze but maybe that effects how stable the flatness remains.

  • @armageddontools

    @armageddontools

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@petemclinc Welds dont warp the cast iron . Key to sucessfull welding of cast iron is to use a electrode of similaror lower tensile strength.If you dont do that weld pulls the surrounding material and cracks in once good cast iron appears , Cast iron is like a glass,its brittle ,it doesnt like to be pulled alot . Thats why its always smart idea to preheat the cast iron and let it slowly cool down even if you use silver nickle electrodes.

  • @Adirondacks4me
    @Adirondacks4me2 жыл бұрын

    Thank goodness you still have a job to pay for all this. I don't think your little odd jobs would come close to covering all these costs...

  • @paulcopeland9035

    @paulcopeland9035

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why would you choose to make such a rude and impertinent comment??