I’ve had a few comments regarding using split rings with spinners, it is an option, but I don’t use them when building spinners for 2 reasons; 1. I believe it makes the spinner too long, especially when using these Gamakatsu Siwash hooks. 2. I believe connecting the hook directly to the spinner wire creates leverage to assist in hookups. I could be all washed up, but we fishermen have our superstitions! Thanks for the discussion, I appreciate it! 👍🏻🎣

@davewylie654

4 ай бұрын

For what it's worth the Owner Stinger Siwash is a short shank offering and really works great with spinners so exactly like you said it isn't near as long

@RAGEFISHING

4 ай бұрын

Copy, thanks for the tip! I’ll check them out.

100% agree with troubles with trebles. I don’t know if I’m just lazy , but I just cut 2 hooks off the treble, quick and easy!

@RAGEFISHING

5 ай бұрын

That’s what my dad does as well! That’s certainly an option. Thanks for posting!

This was so incredibly helpful. Thank you!

@RAGEFISHING

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome! I’m happy to help! 😊

Great idea! Thanks.😊

Exact video I was looking for! Liked and subbed as requested.

@RAGEFISHING

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for the feedback.

Really helpful- thanks for the conversion chart too

@RAGEFISHING

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! 👍🏻

I have been looking for hook size guidance for quite a while, that chart is great. I an also in Eugene and really appreciate you channel.

@RAGEFISHING

Жыл бұрын

That’s great! Glad it was helpful, I had no idea how popular this topic would be, one of my most popular videos!

Thanks . Great video!

@RAGEFISHING

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! It’s appreciated. 🎣

i swapped out all my trout ( brookies ) lures over 30 yrs ago. Mainly to make easier to release . Just use # 6 bait holder hooks. I dress with a worm so the hook is almost hidden. Never notice losing anymore fish .Use the snap portion of a swivel to attach to the lure

Really appreciated this was fishing an area where its cnr and unfortunately gut hooked 3 with the trebol hook and felt bad with this i can safely release trout

@RAGEFISHING

9 ай бұрын

I appreciate the feedback. Singles should help! 🎣

Better be more trout stuff coming! (Fav lures and terminal etc would be cool!) -Dan from Canada

@RAGEFISHING

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Dan B! Good idea. I’ll have to add that one to my future video ideas. I’m currently between bass and spring chinook fishing trips, but trout will follow! Janina and I have property just east of the cascades in Oregon close to a bunch of awesome rivers and lakes. We’ll be exploring some new water for sure while camping over there.

Thank you so much. I fish a lot of State and Federal streams that during delayed harvest it is single hook only or wild streams that are single only. I wanted to know how to change out the trebles since I feel I also get better hook-ups as well over the treble with fewer hang-ups as well. The sizing chart is huge too, thank you. Know to make them barbless as well or look for hooks that start barbless.

@RAGEFISHING

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome! Glad you found the video. After our trip to that high lake, I knew I had to make a change. As far as barbless, I haven’t specifically looked for barbless singles, but I’m sure they’re out there. Or it’s just a matter of pinching them. 👍🏻🎣

Great tips, I switch from fly fishing to spin cast to introduce fishing to my niece and nephew. Many issues with tremble from tearing or snagging the fish to getting the lure stuck in moss/weeds and rocks.

@RAGEFISHING

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I have been getting back into trout fishing for my grandson and wife who started fishing with me. It’s easier to get newbies started with trout and spin gear. Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it!

Nice I was trying to come up with a way to get rid of the treble’s thanks man

@RAGEFISHING

11 ай бұрын

You’re welcome! Glad it helped.

Nice idea. I've done this with several baits, in fact, I have gone to using nothing but a single hook on everything. Bit more sporting, and better for the fish, too. Keep up the good work...

@RAGEFISHING

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Appreciate the feedback! 🎣

Great video. I am going backpacking in the Smokys next week and have been reading about single hook requirements. Since I have never fished for trout before I wasnt sure how to replace the trebles on the rooster tails. Thanks!

@RAGEFISHING

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome! Glad to help. Sounds like a fun trip! Good luck. 🎣

Thank you for sharing your idea and examples As I dont like using the treble hooks .As they do more damage. I also use single hooks on my lures. Its too bad that the majority of lures manufactured all use treble hooks.

@RAGEFISHING

3 ай бұрын

Agreed, my dad and I recently did a fishing trip where we were trolling Thomas buoyants with singles. We landed nearly every fish we hooked, a few came off the hook in the net, but we released the majority of them, so that made it easy. Here’s the link if you want to check it out. Thanks for comment. 🎣 kzread.info/dash/bejne/hGtm1MeFgK2Wfto.htmlsi=gRpVqdYtYuBsgGkI

I started switching to single hooks this year. Owner has everything you need including nice, small split ring pliers.

@RAGEFISHING

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know. Thanks!

It’s frustrating that some lures like Rooster Tails and Blue Fox still don’t have split rings for swapping out, but oh well. I’m going to be experimenting with a double split ring technique I learned from JD this fall for salmon, hopefully increase that initial hook up ratio

@RAGEFISHING

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t use split rings on spinners, just thinking it makes them too long. Also, I like the leverage the hook creates when attached directly to the spinner wire. Does it matter, who knows? But in my overthinking mind it does. 😁

I been doing this for years (humble brag) and I wish everyone would do it. As fishermen, we wanna keep catching fish and the best way to do that is to treat the fish well. Good on ya! P.s. I do use split rings and you're wrong haha ;)

@RAGEFISHING

3 жыл бұрын

I took a long hiatus from trout fishing, primarily fishing for steelhead and bass. Now that my wife and grandson started to show interest in fishing, I decided to dust off the trout gear since it’s easier for newbies. It didn’t take long (the backpacking adventure mainly) for me to realize I needed to make the change as I’ve mostly done for steelhead as well. P.s. I’m glad you like realllllly long spinners, somebody was bound to. 🤣

@CascadeBackcountry

3 жыл бұрын

@@RAGEFISHING haha they do make the spinner "extra long"

@RAGEFISHING

3 жыл бұрын

On another note, I gave you a shout out on my Upper McKenzie video for your advice on the rainbow trout rooster tail, I was going to tag it but for some reason, youtube wouldn’t allow me to. Anyway, it’s towards the end of the video. That color is awesome! 👍🏻

@CascadeBackcountry

3 жыл бұрын

@@RAGEFISHING that's awesome! Thanks! I was actually just about to watch that video. Between filming, editing, working and kids, I always have a stack of videos I wanna watch.

Great tips!

@RAGEFISHING

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Renee! 😁

This will cause some lures to swim improper. Like a kastmaster. If you put a single hook on a kastmaster it makes the tail of the lure ride higher in the water with less action, and it may dive more when retrieved

@RAGEFISHING

10 ай бұрын

It may affect the action of the lure, but I don’t think it will make it ineffective. There’s no doubt it’s different, but I choose the welfare of the fish over the action of the lure.

Thanks for this as I have recently run into some problems with really small trout on treble hooks. Looks like you’re replacing with nickel hooks whereas all the treble hooks I’ve seen are dark. Does that make a difference in your experience?

@RAGEFISHING

18 күн бұрын

Not in my experience, it’s just more flash. They do make the siwash hooks in black, I know I’ve bought some in the past.

Good stuff, the size chart is valuable to me. Do you think there is any advantage to using a hook with an offset point? Thanks

@RAGEFISHING

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it could improve hookups and some do bend the hook point out slightly.

@hudson24NY

Жыл бұрын

from my experience, offset hooks still has the odds to gut hook. The offset can pentrate any part of the fish's mouth, true, but if they swallow it, chances are it will hook them in the gut. The inline hooks are more likely to slide back out if they swallow them and catch them in the lip.

Would you recommend doing this for pike fishing as well?

@RAGEFISHING

2 жыл бұрын

I have never fished for pike, but I don’t see why not.

Definitely single hook works best on trout.

@RAGEFISHING

2 ай бұрын

Agreed!

the river is my backyard im living the dream right now, but i just cant catch anything il go try that haha

@RAGEFISHING

Ай бұрын

Lucky you! There are a bunch of fish in there, you’ll get it!

@AdrenalineRushMX

Ай бұрын

@@RAGEFISHING i hope soo no luck today too😩😩

@RAGEFISHING

Ай бұрын

@AdrenalineRushMX are you talking about the McKenzie River? It’s so clear, midday can be tough. Maybe fish first and last light?

@AdrenalineRushMX

Ай бұрын

@@RAGEFISHING no its the red river in quebec canada haha ,but yes its probably because of the time i fish ,some people get some crazy big fish here, Or im just not good 😅😂

@AdrenalineRushMX

Ай бұрын

last years i got a good one mid day ,so that why i still fish mid day

What size siwash would you recommend for 1/2 oz mepps Aglia

@RAGEFISHING

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the delay, I’ve been off the grid hunting in Wyoming. Im assuming the 1/2 ounce Agila is the #5 blade? If so, I would say a 1/0 or 2/0, leaning toward the 2/0. I use a 1/0 with size #4 blades. I generally don’t fish larger than a size 4 spinner for steelhead. Mepps make some great spinners! That’s what I used before I started assembling my own. 👍🏻

What are some good spinners for steelhead?

@RAGEFISHING

10 ай бұрын

If you’re willing to build them, I recommend Pen-Tac. Here’s a video where I go over my favorite hardware. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nn2bsqqdmqa7o7A.htmlsi=W7wi6ug27_1-BW9d

Good move getting rid of the trebles so as to release ‘em unharmed.

@RAGEFISHING

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, the backpacking trip made me realize I needed to make the change.

Thank You! I need to check my spoons and see if my hooks are oriented correctly. I will try the Gamakatsu siwash hooks, I had switched out using some very fine gauge barbless hooks from Japan, they are scary sharp, but incredibly difficult to keep fish pinned. It has become almost comic how many fish I lose while using spoons (even with standard trebles). Hopefully the hook swap will help. Any other tips would be appreciated. I picked up a small pair of split ring pliers at Wal-Mart in the craft section.

@RAGEFISHING

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback. I’ll think on it! (As far as more tips 😊)

@evilmung

2 жыл бұрын

If I am reeling trout in directly against strong current they are most likely to stay pinned. (reeling them upstream). I fish mainly with jigs and do not have the same problems. Sometimes the fish just won't leave my spoons alone, but if not above condition very rarely will I get them hooked and in.

@RAGEFISHING

2 жыл бұрын

@@evilmung maybe they are just small ones coming undone? Or, maybe your rod’s action is too fast (stiff)? Bass anglers use softer rods for crank baits so the fish won’t come off as easy, the softer rod doesn’t pull the hooks out as easy as a fast rod. 🤔

@evilmung

2 жыл бұрын

It's ridiculous, small-big, I lose them all! Just today had one one peeling drag and poof, gone. I typically fish a 6'9" XULT Slow Action with 2.3lb line. I am thinking it is the hooks.

@RAGEFISHING

2 жыл бұрын

@@evilmung maybe it’s the opposite problem, too slow of action so the hook isn’t getting set. For trout, I use a light power, fast action, 4-8# rod most of the time with 4# text Berkley XL. I don’t have lose a ton of fish on that set up. You’ll always lose some, it’s a matter of how often. Keep after it and you’ll figure it out! 🎣

Have you ever tried circle hooks?

@RAGEFISHING

Жыл бұрын

No, have you? I bought some for surf perch fishing and have yet to use them.

This is not even a question for me: Gonna grab myself the tools, and take off the treble hooks on all of my rooster tails. Because, I cannot stress just how much of a pain treble hooks are for me. Especially if I am fishing trout, and want to get the hook out of them, either for release and/or keeping. Also, with single hooks I do not have to worry as much about getting pricked and/or injured, like I do with the treble hook.

@RAGEFISHING

Ай бұрын

I agree with you on all your points! Thanks for the feedback. 🎣

Why don’t you put a split ring on the rooster tail so you can change out hooks ?

@RAGEFISHING

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the question. 1. I would have no need to change the hook out once I have a siwash on there. 2. I think it makes the profile of a small trout lure too long. I could be wrong, but that’s my reasoning. Oftentimes these lures get lost on the river bottom before I get much use out of them anyway.

I've always been told the Rooster tail "Hackle" is for scent.

@RAGEFISHING

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm, never heard that one. Maybe it retains added scent juice better than metal??

@archit2796

3 жыл бұрын

@@RAGEFISHING Or use a baitwaxx? Should last for many casts.

@archit2796

3 жыл бұрын

I have moved away from Rooster tails to other types of tin. You are making me rethink that bias.

@archit2796

3 жыл бұрын

Follow up: fishing yesterday morning at pond in Dallas, OR. I was trying various spoons etc. but no luck. Decided to cast out a 1/4 oz Rainbow pattern rooster tail with #4 siwash hook. (also scented the hackle with garlic, looked like the spinner was trailing a garlic slick). Finished before daytime heat with four nice trout and three larger blue gills. (No idea how they got a #4 hook in such a small mouth). No fish were harmed. Thanks for all the tips!

@RAGEFISHING

3 жыл бұрын

@@archit2796 That’s awesome! Sounds like a good day, 👍🏻🎣

Had not realized the hook position on a Thomas Buoyant. (Great advice!). Sometimes I cover the treble hook with a hand towel when cutting, so they don't jump away. Been wrapping old treble hooks in tape, suggestions on safe disposal method?

@RAGEFISHING

3 жыл бұрын

I keep the trebles in my lure making kit, I guess someday I’ll have 1000’s. 😁 I just toss the cut ones in the trash and am just mindful not to dig around in there.

@archit2796

3 жыл бұрын

@@RAGEFISHING I want your setup. Need to figure a way to keep the wife, dog and baby out of my trash can.

@RAGEFISHING

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha! 🤣

@archit2796

3 жыл бұрын

@@RAGEFISHING Actually, learned the other day that Salmon and trout parasites or bacteria (gutting?) can seriously harm dogs. Neighbor gave me a lecture when I was cleaning trout in my garage. It's a thing. Like chocolate. who knew.

@RAGEFISHING

3 жыл бұрын

@@archit2796 I’ve heard about salmon being a problem, but not trout. Good to know.