Hooi hakselen en persen met Case IH CHX520 en BB9080 door OTP Echten - deel 1 (2018)
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O.T.P Echten aan het hooi hakselen met een zeer zeldzame Case IH CHX520 hakselaar, het gehakselde hooi wordt direct in balen geperst met een New Holland BB9080 balenpers achter de hakselaar.
In tegenstelling tot hun New Holland BB960A persen achter de FR9050 hakselaars die ik in 2016 al eens filmde bij het stro en hennep hakselen en hydraulisch aangedreven zijn, wordt deze BB9080 aangedreven met een aftakas vanaf de hakselaar.
De balen worden gewikkeld door een Steyr CVT 6170 met Kverneland UN7655 wikkelaar.
Wordt vervolgd in deel 2, hierin zien we meer van het hakselen en ook het ophalen/laden van de balen door Mts Rolleman.
En voor wie het zich afvraagt ; de hakselaar is eigenlijk een New Holland FX die Case IH tussen 2002 en 2007 op de markt bracht onder de naam CHX (CHX420, CHX520 en CHX620).
Fiatagri deed in de jaren 90 hetzelfde met de FX-serie met model nummers 9630, 9640 en 9650.
O.T.P. Echten busy chopping hay with a very rare Case IH CHX520 forage harvester, the chopped hay in directly pressed into bales by a New Holland BB9080 large square baler behind the harvester.
Unlike their New Holland BB960A balers behind the FR9050 forage harvesters, which I filmed in 2016 chopping and baling hemp and straw and are hydraulically driven, this BB9080 is powered by a PTO from the harvester.
The bales are wrapped by a Steyr CVT 6170 with a Kverneland UN7655 bale wrapper.
More to come in part 2 in which we see more of the chopping and also the collecting and loading of the bales by Mts Rolleman.
And for those wondering ; the forage harvester is actually a New Holland FX which Case IH brought onto the market renamed as CHX (CHX420, CHX520 and CHX620) somewhere between 2002 and 2007.
Fiatagri did something similar in the 90's with the FX-series with Fiatagri model numbers 9630, 9640 and 9650.
28 juni 2018
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Prachtige machine! Nog nooit eerder gezien!
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Dankje Marijn. Ik wist dat het bedrijf zo'n Case hakselaar had, maar was een mooie verassing dat toevallig ook die langs kwam hakselen (kans 1 op 3, ze hebben 2 New Holland FR hakselaars volgens mij). Had de FR's al een keer met stro en hennep hakselen.
Never knew forage harvesters can have pto connection at the back this is awesome.
@nagd2010
3 жыл бұрын
They have been modified (OTP also has other forage harvesters with a PTO), but it ís possible ;)
@binkyco
Жыл бұрын
Only with the new holland and case..because of the place of cooling fan
Great Video, thanks for sharing
@nagd2010
2 ай бұрын
Thanks.
Hele mooie video Niels! Echt een prachtige combi, nog nooit gezien dit. Lijkt me wel mooi om te filmen!
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Dankje Mike. Ik had al een keer sto balen en hennep hakselen (met de New Holland FR's) maar nu ook eindelijk de Case. Blijft een bijzonder gezicht, een balenpers achter een hakselaar, altijd leuk om te filmen :)
That is one nice awesomely cool setup!!
@nagd2010
3 жыл бұрын
It sure is.
Cool, thank you for replying and posting awesome and intriguing farming equipment
Prachtige machine en mooie video 👍🏻🙂
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Dankje Fa. Plaatsman!
Nice one Niels. Quite a nice forager and got a model of that
@nagd2010
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim. Wish I had a model of it :P I would like to collect (model) harvesters, but haven't got the room to put them anywhere.
Would be a nice way of putting up haylage when you can wrap the bales in plastic. Interesting to watch thank you for the video update eh.
Prachtig om deze combinatie aan het werk te zien Niels!
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Dankje Jan. Inderdaad prachtig, en toen ik bericht kreeg dat O.T.P zou komen hoopte ik ook al dat het de Case hakselaar zou zijn. Was er zelf heel erg blij mee.
Thanks for your extensive description - I was thinking that the chopper looked awfully like a New Holland! Amazing, the things you come up with!!
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alan. Now 'only' to find the Fiatagri version of the chopper ;)
@saibot8916
6 жыл бұрын
It is technically a new Holland
Deze combi heb ik nog nooit gezien wel mooi gefilmd
@nagd2010
3 жыл бұрын
Het is ook een vrij zeldzame verschijning (tenzij je zelf bij O.T.P Echten werkt natuurlijk :P) . Kwam laatst nog wel een keer een andere hakselaar met pers van hun tegen onderweg (New Holland FR met balenpers), waarschijnlijk bezig met hennep hakselen (voor veevoer).
Hi nice video good work
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
Wederom leuk filmpje.
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Dankje.
Bella macchina mai vista complimenti 😮😮
Great video and a nice combination Niels , baling this way you don´t see here. Greets Stefan
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stefan. Baling this way is also something you don't see often, so it is special every time it does happen :P
Losing all the leaf. Blowing away
mooie video van deze zeldzame machine
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Dank u.
What would the benifit of this be, Over conventional baleing with a tractor?
@nagd2010
5 жыл бұрын
The grass is chopped finer than a conventional baler can do, even though balers have knifes (crop cutter). Some farmers prefer fine chopped grass and that's where this combination comes in handy. Same with straw, some farmers prefer fine chopped straw, and a forage harvester can chop it finer than a conventional baler can do. It's a bit hard to see on a photo or video, but if you're up close next to a bale, you can clearly see the difference.
@pfacontractor1573
5 жыл бұрын
nagd2010 : how come short chopped bales don't fall apart. have they got some net around them put on by baler?
@nagd2010
5 жыл бұрын
No, they don't use a net or something, they just look like any ordinary big bale, except you the grass is clearly chopped in smaller bits. I guess it has something to do with the settings of the baler (more compression I guess). When they change crop (straw > hay > hemp, or even maize) usualy the first bale coming out does fall apart, then they change some settings on the baler (not sure what exactly, I just watch from a distance), and then the bales that come out afterwards are perfectly solid and don't fall apart (at least the grass and straw ones, hemp and maize need more careful handeling).
Is the baler a special construction or is it something that a consumer can purchase straight from New Holland?
@nagd2010
4 жыл бұрын
Not sure, might be an option as I see different brands of balers have a intake on the top for a forage chopper.
Mooi dat je deze combinatie op de film hebt gezet, Niels. Bijzonder om te zien. Heb je een idee of deze balen veel zwaarder zijn dan dat ze alleen met de grootpakpers zijn gemaakt?
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Dankje Jeroen. Weet niet of ze zwaarder zijn.
@alexveldhuis6004
5 жыл бұрын
Het maakt een beter voer product en een beter gevormd pak, gewicht zal niet veel anders zijn.
leuke video niels
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Dankje Nathan.
Its doesn't look like it, but that harvester must have lots of power to chop and bale and do so fast. I'd like to know what kind of power its putting out.
@nagd2010
3 жыл бұрын
The engine of the CHX520 has about 480HP.
That thing is a beast.... 💪
@nagd2010
3 жыл бұрын
It sure is :)
Is this "custom work", or owned by the farmer? Being dry and wrapped, is this to be "stored" outside? I would think that the integrity of the bale would be compromised by all the fibers of the hay being short. How is the feeding process handled? Lastly, how much to own, outright, or to have done?
@nagd2010
Жыл бұрын
The machine is owned by a contractor. Usualy these bales are stored outside. About the feeding proces and such...I do not know.
Great video
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
Als de balen gewikkeld worden, is het dan nog hooi? Lijkt er wat mij betreft meer op dat ze bezig zijn kuil/silage balen te maken.
@nagd2010
3 жыл бұрын
Blijft wel hooi. Silagebalen zit volgens mij nog iets meer vocht in.
Mooie combinatie, maar de uitlaatpijp recht naar de stoftrechter is denk ik vragen om problemen...?
@nagd2010
5 жыл бұрын
Dankje Nico. Ik denk denk dat ze dit de beste oplossing vonden om een balenpers achter een hakselaar te zetten. Ik denk als ze bijvoorbeeld met een flexibele buis/slang op de pers zouden aansluiten, een knikje ergens, en je hebt de hele boel meteen verstopt zitten (en probeer het dan maar weer los te krijgen :P) .
@nicom.m.dejong5016
5 жыл бұрын
Nee, dat bedoel ik niet Niels. De uitlaat van de dieselmotor! De vonken vliegen nu rechtstreeks de stofbak in. Dat word dan een heel snelle BBQ met het huidige droge weer... Beter de uitlaat een kwartslag draaien en een vonkenvanger tussen plaatsen.
@nagd2010
5 жыл бұрын
Oh zo, dat had ik er niet van begrepen, sorry :P Is misschien inderdaad handiger om de uitlaat bij te draaien, weet ook niet in hoe verre dat mogelijk is.
Mooie video en vangst Niels, vorig jaar de FR van hun gefilmd
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Dankje Johan.
😍
Someone should do this with the john deere hillco single pass baler
Video complimenti👍👍👍👍👍👍
@nagd2010
Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
Very nice Video.
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
Super
@nagd2010
4 жыл бұрын
Dankje.
Cuando se empieza a segar y se termina la recolección del alfalfa?
Cada cuántos días se hace cada corta de alfalfa
There must be a high horsepower engine in that forager to do both jobs! (480, l just read all the comments)
Dieses Gespann nenne ich mal sehr Wirtschaftlich. Tolle Aufnahme.
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Danke Suber140.
I’ve never seen bails made at road speed.
New Holland looks good in red ,they used to be red in the 70s and 80s I never cared for the yellow.
Aparte combinatie. En een zeer zeldzame hakselaar
@agrinl5315
6 жыл бұрын
Alex the Dutch Dairyfarmer ja die zie je niet vaak
@agrinl5315
6 жыл бұрын
Alex the Dutch Dairyfarmer, Volgens mij is dat een new holland fx 38
@AlextheDutchDairyfarmer
6 жыл бұрын
Agri NL Volgens mij ook. Maar in de Case kleuren zie eigenlijk nooit
@agrinl5315
6 жыл бұрын
Alex the Dutch Dairyfarmer klopt
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Dankje Alex. De machine is uitgebracht als New Holland FX, Case CHX en ook nog een Fiatagri variant. Technisch gezien dus dezelfde machine, alleen dan onder een ander merk. In het verleden ook wel vaker gebeurt dat dezelfde machine onder andere merknaam verkocht werd, vooral bij Mengele zag je dat wel eens. Was er in elk geval heel blij mee, want zo'n Case hakselaar is behoorlijk zeldzaam.
hoe word de pers aangedreven ?
@nagd2010
5 жыл бұрын
Bij deze hakselaar via een aftakas (die vanuit de hakselaar zeer waarschijnlijk hydraulish word aangedreven). Bij de FR hakselaars gaat het via de hydrauliek, gaan dan alleen slangen vanaf de hakselaar naar de pers (bij deze zie je nog een aftakas ertussen).
@sck-machinery2066
4 жыл бұрын
@@nagd2010 als ik het goed heb... ligt bij dit type hakselaar de 6 cil Daf motor er in de lengte in... een mechanische aftakas regelrecht vanaf de krukas van de motor kan ook... net als bij een fronthef met aftakas.. gezien zo'n pers best wel wat vermogen vraagt... dus hydraulisch aandrijven niet ideaal is... is dit wel een betere optie..
Sure is alot of waste for every 4 bails made is 1 bail on the ground
Why do you have the forage harvester to chop the hay? Why can’t you just use the baler like you would regularly do?
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Even with modern balers (with cropcutter and such) the product is still rougher (not sure if that is the correct term, I can't come up with a more proper term in English for it ) than the product that this combination makes. There is clearly a difference between chopped bales like this, or one from a regular baler. In most situations a normal baler will do the job just fine. But in some cases, farmers prefer a product that has been chopped, and that's where this machine comes in.
@pfacontractor1573
5 жыл бұрын
Oscar Johansson most likely to be a case of big boy's with bigger toys😀
@hughmarcus1
4 жыл бұрын
It’s not gay, it’s Haylage
Супер!
Hello YOU FORGET TO PUT COUNTRY AND CITY NAMES
Schon nicht schlecht.. fehlt nur noch der Wickler hinten dran.
Probably cheaper than buying a tractor to run the baler and gives the harvester a longer season
Voor in voedermengwagen kort gesneden hooi
Как это? Тюки куда потом?
The 520 is 520 hp ?
@nagd2010
3 жыл бұрын
According to the technical documentations it has 480HP.
@nicolasdemannoury467
3 жыл бұрын
@@nagd2010 ok thanks 🤟🏼
I was just going to ask when Case IH came out with a SP harvester but it’s a NH painter red. What a great idea of blowing the right into the baler. Must make some very nice bales! That would be fun at you don’t have to worry about trucks you can make some serious time here!
@nagd2010
5 жыл бұрын
Case IH had a few SP harvesters over the years, but were mostly 'red painted' versions of other brands (they are were however sold under the Case IH brand). They had a few Mengele (SF and Mammut) recolours, and this recoloured FX.
Hummmm But why not just bale it??? Without the chopper??
@nagd2010
5 жыл бұрын
A normal baler, even with cropcutter (knifes) can't cut the grass as fine as a forage harvester can. Some farmers prefer a fine chopped crop.
@CarstenAlbrechtsen
5 жыл бұрын
It makes sense :-)
@hughmarcus1
4 жыл бұрын
Finer chop makes for easier feeding out & less waste. If you’re loading those into a diet feeder then the chopping is already done.
Śliczna praca
It looks like an fx new holland harvester painted red
@nagd2010
Жыл бұрын
They were sold in 3 'flavors' , the New Holland FX, this Case IH, and also (very rare) Fiatagri. Only the New Holland FX was kept in production, the other 2 were not. So it might be in a way a 'red painted FX' , but it was in fact sold as an Case IH.
Kiss it me or does the case look like a old newholland fx
@nagd2010
5 жыл бұрын
The same machine was sold under 3 different brand names; New Holland, Case IH, and Fiatagri. The Case and Fiatagri versions are very rare though, the most common is indeed the New Holland FX.
That’s a hell of a lot of dust. Hate to be the guy that has to grease it before next use. Lol
Very good but don’t understand why. May as well put it on a tractor
@nagd2010
4 жыл бұрын
Using a forage harvester, the crop is chopped finer that what the knifes of a baler can do. Also, you get a higher density in the bales because it's chopped.
@banditbeggers533
4 жыл бұрын
nagd2010 now it makes sense mate. Thanks
Why would you go to the expense of chopping and knock off thirty percent of the leaves, and another 10% when you open the bale. Sounds expensive to me , must be some advantages to it that I don’t see?.
@forcesfarming8511
Жыл бұрын
Higher Dry Matter intake for the cows eating it. They will eat more short mer grass than long hay. If you have the margin to do it why not. Plus savings from moving less bales if they are denser than not chopped. Also I doubt it’s using that much more fuel than a tractor.
Tijdens stro persen
Somebody please explain what's going on here?
Top boteleuse New holland autoportee
More expensive way to harvest hay
@Mapdotnowhere
3 жыл бұрын
Emile Lachatte right? I don’t see how they can profit...
Een new holland fx is het .
@nagd2010
Жыл бұрын
De machine is exact hetzelfde als de FX, maar is wel degelijk als Case IH uitgebracht. Er is ook nog een zeldzame Fiatagri variant van. Uiteindelijk is alleen de New Holland variant op de markt gebleven.
Disn stond vandaag in de hens 🤦♂️
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Klopt, had het bericht gezien. Gelukkig is het redelijk goed afgelopen, machine is nog heel.
@matthijsaltena7353
6 жыл бұрын
Klopt, was er nog met mijn stageboer met een 5 kuubs tankie met water
Why not just pull it with a tractor
um looks like a good part of it is blowing away in the wind lol
@nagd2010
5 жыл бұрын
Looks worse than it realy is. The grass dust that blows away isn't even enough to make a quarter of a bale (I think I would even have a hard time filling my backpack with it ;) ).
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Looks like to me that you are leaving a lot in the field. Awful dusty and loss of good hay
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
It looks worse than it is. Well, the dust is bad ofcourse, but hardly leaves anything behind realy.
@davidopel5752
6 жыл бұрын
nagd2010 thanks for letting me back. I've never seen anything like this before. It's awesome
@nagd2010
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you and you're welcome ;)
@clintonlehmann4369
Жыл бұрын
Stupid to chop dry hay. 🙄 just cut it earlier if u want it less coarse. Sp harvester prob use three times fuel a tractor and baler would
Typical Nederland........
@pfacontractor1573
5 жыл бұрын
LSZocker2009 : GOOD idea for maze if you want to sell it in bale form. waste of time for hay.
Be a lot cheaper to just tubgrind them where u gonna feed them. Lot less hay lost. Never seen chopper doing dry hay
Makes no sense at all here
Makes zero sense