Just as an aside I don’t mind you guys talking over the trailer to hear the trailer cause your right I’ve seen it already. It’s more that we can’t understand you with the trailer going at the same time.

@ZachBobBob

5 жыл бұрын

^^^ THIS. It's just sensory overload. Hearing 5 voices at once is a nightmare

@kasia-l

5 жыл бұрын

Especially if English isn't your first language!

@AnimalLover101195

5 жыл бұрын

YES! EXACTLY! If I wanted to watch the trailer I'd watch the trailer by itself. I want to hear what they have to say and I can't when the trailer is playing over them.

@422katieleigh

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I think they think it’s about hearing the trailer, it’s actually about being able to hear them. This was a bit like trying to eavesdrop on a single conversation in a crowded room.

@AbMaSync

5 жыл бұрын

YES!

What makes this series un-rewatchable is that on a second viewing you would really notice all of the setup that you know will never get a payoff.

@ANTIStraussian

2 жыл бұрын

People rewatch breaking bad, the wire, the sopranos and band of brothers. No one rewatches game of thrones

I'm pretty sure "Dany kinda forgot about the Iron Fleet" is going to be the new "Jar Jar is the key to all this." Or any one of the other George Lucas quotes when he made the prequels. And speaking of Star Wars, I think it would've been a great outro in the HT if EVG said "Well, at least I still have Star Wars," then got mad when he found out D&D were helming a new SW trilogy. Or a joke about how even Rian Johnson is taking shots at the last season would've been nice.

@Cbricklyne

5 жыл бұрын

"Everything rhymes" is my favorite Lucas' quote from the prequels. Followed closely by,...."I think we we may have gone a bit too far" (paraphrased, from the DVD extras after they saw the first cut and realized they put in too much CGI crap)

@foliveira1632

5 жыл бұрын

Congratulations 😍

@peterthx

5 жыл бұрын

@@Cbricklyne that is not what was meant.

@arbynChief617

5 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Abramowitz Rian Johnson taking shots at season 8 is the textbook definition of “the pot calling the kettle black.”

@amateuroverlord8007

5 жыл бұрын

@@arbynChief617 true but the kettle is black.

Spencer is my spirit animal in all of this.

@screenjunkies

5 жыл бұрын

He's the world's spirit animal.

@TheSuperNats

5 жыл бұрын

I support everything he says

Good story points don't work if they just *happen* . If Jamie was going to go back to Cerci, fine, but not in 7.3 seconds and 'because'.

@deeya

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I understood the direction in doing that, not the rapid execution of it. Same goes with Dany going 3rd Reich.

@hansenhorst3117

4 жыл бұрын

D33Y4 Same with the death of the Night King Kind of unsatisfying

They stopped caring. Plain and simple. So many KZreadrs have come up with better more logical writing for the final season then what we got.

@avinotion

5 жыл бұрын

But then the youtubers would be right, and Dan & Co. wanted to make sure nobody's right!

@juanita-dark

4 жыл бұрын

They didn't have to care in the end. It will be up to other people to mitigate and minimalise the extent of the damage D&D did. (HBO will do it because they want spinoff viewers; the actors will because they want work; the press will do it - eventually - because D&D's future output is under Disney; and viewers will do it because they haven't read, cared about, or understood the books.) They knew they could avoid any consequences.

@abcdefg2174

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. They didnt have source material for season 6 and that still had some great episodes

@andylikesstuffchannel

2 жыл бұрын

Who cares what KZreadrs say they are just normal people really apart from they just have time to dump there views on a free streaming service

I'm on Spencer's hate train.... Everyone else is in denial (Lon).

@asherujudo7383

4 жыл бұрын

Lon watched a different show.

@shannond7437

4 жыл бұрын

Jorge Chick lost me at “always on team Sansa.” Briefly behind Catelyn, she’s the worst.

Oh, my sweet summer child, what do you know about disappointment? Disappointment is for the short night, when Jon did nothing and Arya fell a hundred feet from nowhere. Disappointment is for the characters, whose arcs are built up for years only to be instantly regressed and plot lines are born and live and die all in nothingness. That is the time for disappointment, my queen, when the White Walkers never make it past Winterfell. Thousands of years ago, there came lazy writers that destroyed an entire series. Fans raged about no set up, payoff or logic, same as the cast members in their interviews. And parents smothered their Khaleesis rather than see them watch Season 8, and wept and felt the tears of disappointment on their cheeks. In that darkness, the Show Runners came for the last time. They rushed through season 8 without care, leaving coffee cups and water bottles, riding off to Star Wars to “subvert more expectations”.

@TheAnaceciliadmmm

5 жыл бұрын

AHAHAHAHAHAHA that is a better writing than season 8 And seven, by the way

@dukesilver2072

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha this is fantastic 😂😂 🤣

@tamil8108

5 жыл бұрын

Melodramatic

@obsessivefangirl5055

4 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Daniel’s fading out Back to the Future joke 😂😂😂 Quite literally perfect 👌🏻

When Lon says class is a modern concept, it isn't. If you look at Aristotle's Constitution of the Athenians, there is commentary about the common man and how they were important to the Solonic reforms which would eventually lead to the institution of democracy in the city. Plato also discussed how creating strife between the classes leads to problems in the Republic. In a more contemporaneous period with the show, peasants revolts were something rulers would be cognizant of. Plus there were Enlightened Authoritarianism after the Enlightenment, but even before that there were rulers who held absolute power that cared for the lower class dating back to the Ancient Greeks such as Peisistratus

WHAT?! I've been waiting all week for this commentary and you all decide to appear? I could not be any happier! I love you all!

@screenjunkies

5 жыл бұрын

Dreams do come true!

@kevinw712

5 жыл бұрын

@@screenjunkies yeah it more fully started to occur to me today, you guys do a fuck ton of hard work. All the writing and editing that goes into every Honest Trailer for it being a weekly event (and as such, some TV shows so all the more grueling), and hell that's just the behind the scenes work of the seemingly endless amount of other daily segments you guys have going on. And not like just those are 30-60 minutes of studio time, plenty of prep is done for them as well. Weren't we going to make it big in Hollywood to NOT have real, everyday jobs?? lol

Season 8 did a really good job of making me not care about Game of Thrones.

@Kasino80

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't even watch the last two episodes. I started watching reactions instead. Much more entertaining.

@Andjelka99

5 жыл бұрын

I was wondering about continuing watching but seeing all the buzz about the end I'm glad I won't waste my time hahaha

What D&d did to Jon's character is the equivalent of Aragorn having a massive stroke after the battle at Minas Tirith so they send him to live out his days in the Prancing Pony in Bree.

@TheAnaceciliadmmm

5 жыл бұрын

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHHAAHHAAHHA I agree

I love Lon trying to “Homer Through the Bushes” escape the table when Spencer starts talking about politics.

@christianrapper

5 жыл бұрын

Lol. Even though spencer didn’t really. I am glad no one that i saw started freaking out.

I am with Spencer! I am usually with Dan, but Spencer is correct! Season 8 was blasphemy.

@kingfrank01

5 жыл бұрын

Right! And Lon trying to defend every part of it is annoying.

@Trollificusv2

5 жыл бұрын

"But...to have done it the way they did Seasons 1-6, it would have been a 30 episode season!" "Put it in my veins."

@mk6rfc1

5 жыл бұрын

@@kingfrank01 yes how dare someone else have a differing opinion

9:29 , there is no theory, HBO was willing to give them carte blanche , to run the show as long as they needed, Dumb and Dumber decided themselves to shorten the last seasons.

@BananaJoe12345

5 жыл бұрын

And you think actors wanted to do 12 seasons?

@MrDalek1999

5 жыл бұрын

this is a gross oversimplification

@harrydepova8896

5 жыл бұрын

@@BananaJoe12345 10 seasons, yes.

@thekeeperofpromise

5 жыл бұрын

Actors love working on a show. But after a while, they get tired and want to move on too.

@QuintBlitz

5 жыл бұрын

@@BananaJoe12345 12 seasons on the biggest, most critically acclaimed show the literal world has known? I'm mighty sure most of them would have done GoT until they retired, from staff to actors.

we get it Lon, you liked it. Nobody is forcing you to dislike it - just to understand why over 50% of the non-casual fanbase of the show felt the conclusion was weak and unsatisfying. It has very little to do with expectations, and it's not just that it was rushed (I'd argue that the blatantly "rushed" vibe is more of a symptom than a cause for the very vocal hate last two seasons got) it has more to do with weak dialogue, boring character arcs, plot armor in service of role popularity and and overall lack of production quality. I think that despite the rabid and exaggerated nature of our comments the fan base *can* forgive mistakes, but when the whole product feels like one big flaw... well, that's stretching the audience's limits for enjoyment.

@Starlightean

5 жыл бұрын

YES.

@hugonametala5985

5 жыл бұрын

exactly

@SantosAl

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThreadBomb because it feels like he's ignoring the points that people are making and argues that it is them that don't understand the story.

@deeya

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThreadBomb because he keeps acting like he truly knows the reason for why all these people hate S8. That is the most entitled thing ever, for a guy commenting on the fan trope of entitlement, in demanding that their object of their fandom conforms to their views. No, it's not simply because the S8 did not follow the fanfic I wrote up. Get off your high horse.

@boomboom6577

2 жыл бұрын

This. I don’t understand why it’s difficult to understand why SO MANY DEVOTED FANS actually DO find it problematic. These are valid complaints. This whole comment section is deadass right, IMO. Taking a high horse position fools no one.

The writers should've started season 8 with a small snippet of Drew Carey saying: "Welcome to Game of Thrones season 8 where everything is made up and the lore doesn't matter...that's right the lore doesn't matter." 😂

Why would the Lords of Westeros and the council of surviving characters accept a Stark as a king AND ALSO let the Stark king give his family independence while he still ruled over everyone else? It's ridiculous.

@telectronix1368

5 жыл бұрын

Because no one wants to defy NSA-Bran.

@RedEye761

5 жыл бұрын

@@telectronix1368 LMAO

@whodatninja439

5 жыл бұрын

And also who would tolerate Arya, an assassin, threatening someone on the council??? Oh right, she's a Stark. Theon's sister got shafted.

@RedEye761

5 жыл бұрын

@@whodatninja439 Arya went off sailing dude

@whodatninja439

5 жыл бұрын

​@@RedEye761 She threatened to kill Theon's sister and no one batted an eye.

The more the spectacle increased the less the dialogue charmed & the less the characters made sense. They went all in on 1 of the 3 things that were attractive about the show, ditched the other 2. Bran as king is fine if you tell the story differently. Oh and they stopped murdering people who earned $1M+ an episode.

It's not an issue of trying to hear the trailer, it's too hard to hear what you are saying while the trailer is playing. It just gives me a headache.

@emhu2594

5 жыл бұрын

it sounds like having 3 videos up on youtube at once

2:32 LOL Get it out Spencer, this is your last chance. 2:42 Joe's ad-libs LOL

I've said this before, so I'll be repeating myself, but Dany going mad is actually a perfect example of what went wrong with the show. Not that she went mad, as I do believe that's where the books are going as well. It's not what happens, it's why and how it happens. When the Red Wedding happened, no one asked Why? You may not have liked that the Boltons turned against the Starks, and you certainly weren't surprised that the Freys did; you did not like the choice that they made, but you understood why it happened. You were angry, sad, depressed, but you weren't confused. When Dany goes mad, everyone is asking Why? Why did she do this? It's not enough to be told that she could go mad. You need to see it evolve. The thing is, they had actually already built in how this could have happened and didn't use it. 1. Dany should have been winning the war. Cersei is not as smart as she thinks she is. She continually makes matters worse for herself because she lacks foresight. Dany should have been given good council by Tyrion with good information by Varys. Cersei should realize that she can't defeat Dany so long as Dany has these two men providing her advice, so she targets Tyrion and Varys. She manages to kill Varys, and therefore remove that source of information, and wounds Tyrion. She also manages to seriously wound one of the smaller dragons, to the point where it can no longer fly. It begins to give up on life, and, unable to force it to feed, Dany has to watch it waste away and die. She is consumed by grief. 2. Jorah at the Citadel. The healing by Sam seemed far too easy (comparative to the problem). Have Sam start to heal Jorah, and the next thing we see is Sam being reprimanded and punished. Jorah then turns up at Dragonstone. He sits in on her councils, and continually gives her advice that plays to the worst parts of her personality, the part telling her to burn everything, be a dragon. She occasionally laughs at his humor, which no one else seems to find funny. Later you find out why, when Sam meets Jon again and tells him how he met the son of Lord Mormont. He had grey scale. Sam tried to save him and failed: he died. Jorah's not there: Dany's having hallucinations brought on by grief at the loss of her child. We now know that Dany is compromised, even if the characters don't. 3. Qyburn's cult of murder babies. Dany blockades King's Landing, and Qyburn sends out a bunch of women and children under the guise of refugees who escaped, and want nothing to do with the Lannisters. Dany takes the children in, only for the children to be revealed as assassins who try to kill her in her sleep. She confronts the women, who openly admit they view Dany as a foreign invader and usurper. Dany has them burned alive. At this point she now sees everyone in King's Landing, even the women and children, as potential enemies. Though she has been winning the war, driving Cersei back, the losses are becoming unbearable. She snaps and attacks the city.

@telectronix1368

5 жыл бұрын

Imo a much more organic process would have been having Danny, grieving for Missandre and her dragons and her lost troops etc etc and hell-bent on revenge against Cersei decides not to accept peace and instead continues to attack Cersei and the castle itself. That way you could still have much destruction of the city, innocents bystanders killed and so on......but it would be because Danny has become so focussed on this one goal and one person. So she'd still be unstable and unsuitable as a calm ruler, Jon and others could still work to stop her taking the throne but she wouldn't have been made into a butcher of innocent families and children.

@HMThus

5 жыл бұрын

You make some really good points.

@dodgyb2001

5 жыл бұрын

Those are some clever ways of dealing with it, good work. I also felt if they'd had a scorpion or several hidden in the roof of several of the buildings en route to the castle, and they are revealed as she flys to attack and almost nail her, so she has to turn and destroy them, and gets paranoid over the rest of the city, that might have worked well.

@ericacomitalo

5 жыл бұрын

That Jorah twist would have been SO legit and would have been one of the kind of shocking moments we loved this show for.

@napamodesto8001

5 жыл бұрын

If we can somehow smuggle you to hollywood and secretly replace you with one of the writers that would be super lol!

I've enjoyed watching Spencer have nerd-rage about GOT this year. We all have things we feel passionately about, so it's a fun change to see the snarky one get mad about a show.

@ANTIStraussian

2 жыл бұрын

2 years later GOT has lost all cultural relevance

I'm not someone who comments about the 'pause' thing, but I will say that when you're talking over the trailer, it's not that it's hard to hear the trailer. I've seen the trailer. It's also hard to hear what you're saying, and I'm tuning in here to hear your commentary. Haven't seen these seasons of game of thrones, but enjoyable trailer as always. Thanks for the work you all do!

"Take me to church" could be on a Screenjunkies shirt! Hilarious.

S H E S M Q W E E N

@haleyhynes997

5 жыл бұрын

Ey dunh wan eht

@Aliens1337

5 жыл бұрын

Ey neivar hev

@mshara1

5 жыл бұрын

Dragonfire can't melt stone parapets. Dany was framed.

@ConanTan

5 жыл бұрын

Ka-chow!

@Valjean666dk

5 жыл бұрын

Daughter of Steve.

Name 3 good things and 3 bad things about the final 3 seasons of Game of Thrones. *Enjoy Honest Trailers Commentary every Wednesday at 10AM Pacific right here on Screen Junkies. Why Wednesday? So we have time to react to your reaction to the trailer which was our initial reaction to the movie/TV show. Capiche? Hit us up below with any questions.* POOL RULES One: Speak up and join the conversation- we encourage respectful debate. Two: Respect your community- racism, misogyny, homophobia and hate speech aren’t tolerated. Three: Don’t go looking for fights. Four: “Be nice.” - Dalton from Roadhouse

@lokuzt

5 жыл бұрын

Good: The wardrobe dpt., digital visual effects & prosthetics, musical score Bad: Location continuity, fight choreography, the dumbing down of Tyrion's character

@fangal12

5 жыл бұрын

All 3 of my good things are from season 6: Cersei blowing up the Sept, Battle of the Bastards, "Hold the Door" Arya feeding Walder Frey his own children and then murdering him.

@christophervallas4647

5 жыл бұрын

Good: Jorah, Theon and Sansa. Bad: Jon, Jaime and Tyrion.

@WazeedNaeem

5 жыл бұрын

3 good things :- All the dragon scenes ... ... 3 bad things night kings death euron greyjoy the kids named danarius

@haleyhynes997

5 жыл бұрын

Good: The Battle of The Bastards, Ramin Djawadi killing it as always, visual effects Honorable Mention: "Dany kinda forgot" memes, Cleganebowl airhorns, everyone except for the writers was on their A-game Bad: Dany kinda forgot, rushing, King Bran the Broken (who didn't appear for a whole season) Honorable Mention: Dothraki and Unsullied apparently reproduce asexually, screw you Rhaegal, and plot armor

damn Dan's cruise analogy was just SPOT ON

Rename this episode Honest Trailer Commentaries: CIVIL WAR

@HoraceInkling

5 жыл бұрын

AlMoSiCe210 why? They all agree it's shite. Two people said it's alright.

@GoodOldGamer

5 жыл бұрын

So... Spencer - Cap Dan - Tony Joe - Scott Lon - Hawkeye Danielle - Scarlett Witch ?? 🤔

@may.k_me

5 жыл бұрын

@@GoodOldGamer switch Dan to Cap and Spencer to Tony in terms of conflict

One word to describe Season 8? Lazy This comment is the Season 8 of Comments

@JuanGomez-ke5py

5 жыл бұрын

We all know with the real ending at The Crossover with Elmo with the real ending year

@telectronix1368

5 жыл бұрын

@Doug - But they stopped it with season 7. What are you talking about, "Season 8". It. never. happened.

@kawaii_trap8380

5 жыл бұрын

I havent watch season 8 yet. Should i consider watching it?

@Prince_Sidon

5 жыл бұрын

What pissed me off was that Cersei was so 'unprepared' against Danny. No EPIC battle. Just The Golden Company, even after learning that The Iron Fleet was destroyed.

@Valjean666dk

5 жыл бұрын

D&D just kinda forgot how to write GoT.

39:28 I was hoping to see a clip of GOB from Arrested Development saying "I've made a huge mistake"

@TheLowBrassDude

5 жыл бұрын

"C'mon Michael!"

season 8 was fractally bad. it was bad in the overall story points and bad in the details. Saying that 'if there were 5 episodes to set this up' or 'they did the best with what they had' are non-arguments, you're saying that if the show was good, it would be good, good point. jaime lannister going back to cersei isnt 'the way life is', it's character asssassination

@twistednemo

5 жыл бұрын

This is the first time I have ever seen the word "fractal" being used as an adjective. Thanks. I picked up something new today.

@PanAndScanBuddy

5 жыл бұрын

I still am amazed at everyone who carries a torch for Jaime "Utter Bastard, Making Bastards" Lannister.

@Adam-xg1ch

5 жыл бұрын

it's not character assassination. no matter what happened or what he did since the beginning of the series, he always went back to Cersei. she was his drug. it made perfect sense for him to go back and try to save her in the end. here is a jamie quote from season 6 episode 1, "Fuck prophecy. Fuck fate. Fuck everyone who isn’t us. We’re the only ones who matter, the only ones in this world. And everything they’ve taken from us, we’re going to take back and more. We’re going to take everything there is."

@ocandro

4 жыл бұрын

@@Adam-xg1ch in the show yes, he is completely different character in the books and Martin is a much better writer. Not that you even need to be a genius to understand that a good story or arc is more important in art than cynically operating within constraints of probability and reality. The characters that get killed off early are the ones who didn't evolve, if you let someone live to the very end, you need to make them dynamic. Even a small change, like having him kill Cersei would be OK, because it would show some progress. He didn't have to be completely redeemed and save the world.

@karkatvantas9557

4 жыл бұрын

@@Adam-xg1ch Where I'm at in the books right now, Jaime is feeling betrayed and hurt by Cersei cheating on him, refused to return to her when the High Sparrow took her prisoner, and is planning to tell the entire world that Tommen and Myrcella are his bastards.

Joe asking for the Wheel of Time made my heart grow 3 sizes. I love that man.

@n3xus12311

5 жыл бұрын

Tai'shar Kentucky!

I LOVE how annoyed Spencer is- because that's exactly how I felt. But now I've moved on and don't even think about GoT anymore. The show is dead to me. Lmao

It’s funny how Avatar: The Last Airbender became a better game of thrones than game of thrones.

@screenjunkies

5 жыл бұрын

Accurate comment is very accurate.

@TheLowBrassDude

5 жыл бұрын

And that did it Six years before the Game of Thrones tv show!

@ms_scribbles

5 жыл бұрын

We must not be talking about the movie, because the movie was so bad I walked out of the theater before it got halfway through.

@Cbricklyne

5 жыл бұрын

Low bar.

@aaronfine6430

5 жыл бұрын

@@ms_scribbles the Earth King has invited you to lake Laogai. There is no movie within these walls. Here, we are safe.

I was literally brought to tears of laughter before the end of minute 3, hallelujah testify.

Loved this. One of the best commentaries you guys have ever done! I'm so glad that you make these.

Bless Dan for his fine education & for not noticing the decline of Jack London culturally since his death 100yrs ago.

A friend of mine never watched the show and never read the books. He finally binged the entire show and thought they completely crapped the bed in season 8.

They look so much better in 1080p

they committed straight up character assassination in season 8. that's it. no other way to put it.

I'll do it. And Starring; Stark Phoenix.. Was that so hard?

Blood and bloody ashes. Joe is right. I just need that Wheel of Time series to come out.

My guy with the Wheel of Time drop up top, nice!

Nice on the main channel for once it fits Next week probably .... SHAZAM!

@thelorddrinian

5 жыл бұрын

Golden Light Pictures good call. I hope you’re right.

@neon9999

5 жыл бұрын

The magic word is "thanks" so it's a T. Hanks (Tom Hanks) movie.

@mk6rfc1

5 жыл бұрын

No, it’s obviously the 90s classic Kazaam starring Sinbad

@jedibrolo3551

5 жыл бұрын

Golden Light Pictures yes it’ll be interesting to 👂 their thoughts since I 💭 this was way better than 👩‍✈️ Marvel IMO 🙃

Whether they had signed the deal for star wars before negotiating the number of episodes for the last season isn't really relevant. The question would be when did the negotiations for the SW deal begin.

Name a more iconic panel lineup. I'll wait Edit: I love sassy Spencer btw

@trancedoutkid

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyskinwalker4095 except I just said it so that statement is invalid

@titanguy7316

5 жыл бұрын

Mike Carlson Nick Mundy Kevin Napzok.

Great videos, guys! But I have a suggestion: I'm French and I don't get everything when there are no subtitles, so if you could help us by adding them; that would be great.🤗

@_jolie_

5 жыл бұрын

Je peux traduire les bouts que tu veux absolument comprendre si tu veux

Did Lon actually just argue that the Jaime going back to cersei makes sense from a storytelling perspective? Hahahahahhababababa. Okay Lon when you right a story you set up actions with foreshadowing. Is there any foreshadowing for Jamie leaving that you can show me?

@PanAndScanBuddy

5 жыл бұрын

He's addicted to that incest man. He wants the forbidden fruit.

@Jarnauga

5 жыл бұрын

It makes sense from a storytelling perspective, its just unusual storytelling. Stories tend to take the road where characters do achieve their storyarc, or the storyarc that we want them to succeed at. But GoT never was that kind of story. Characters in the past had often failed to complete their arc, or rather their arc was never meant to be completed and was part of another arc. George RR Martin tends to go for a more realistic approach with his storytelling, more based in history and human nature. And Jaimie had a toxic relationship with Cersei that lasted for most of his life, it was always build into his character that he good relapse, and a situation where you have kinda achieved that change, is a perfect situation to relapse, because its new, its scary, and the past feels more comfortable and safe in that regard in contrast. Also, the BIGGEST Problem that Jaimies story has towards the end, is that it was meant for books, where we are directly in Jaimies head, which needs to be adapted usually into some dialogue, which needs to make sense in the situation and needs reason to happen. That is not always possible, and the final season of GoT suffers at quite a few points from that. Another example would be Jon after the City gets burned. Not being directly in his head, with his inner monologue or inner dialogue, is a general problem. And the Dialogue with Tyrion was the way they tried to adapt that to the show, with the inbuild problem, that Jon is left with one side of inner dialogue, and Tyrion represents the more reasonable side, which made Jon look a bit stupid in that situation. With Jaimie however, there was no good way to really bring the inner conflict out in that kind of way, best they could do is what he said in his parting words with Brienne, which comes a bit out of nowhere in the show, but is not a problem at all in the books.

@boomboom6577

2 жыл бұрын

Helps if it makes sense from the storytelling perspective of an actual story not just in general lololol

Disappointed in Spencer for not saying that Slavery is not a thing in Westeros to Lon when he was talking about breaking the wheel. Jorah was outcasted by Ned Stark. Come on, now. That's basic Thrones stuff 101

15:17 "If only that rock hadn't been there!" They have some really funny quotes in this video 15:54 (Night King taps Jon on his shoulder) "How the hell did you get here?!"

FINALLY! This whole waiting for the commentaries thing is painful, but worth it! I love this series and crew no matter the channel. THANKS SCREEN JUNKIES!

@screenjunkies

5 жыл бұрын

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME!

Spenny's germans floating in Florida bit was so great

Bran has tree-wizard powers. He can see everything. He can know and tell everyone's stories. Therefore, he has the best story, the worst story, and all the stories in between.

Joe giving The Wheel of Time some recognision was one of my favourite moments watching this.

Season 8 ruined the show for me. Lon's opinion is insane. that is all.

@katesometimeslate158

5 жыл бұрын

If season 8 ruined the show, I need to know what you were smoking during season 7.

@fangal12

5 жыл бұрын

I can't say it ruined the show. The suckiness of seasons 7 & 8 (and some of 6 cough*cough Dorne) doesn't negate how mind blowingly amazing the other seasons were.

@MrGreenHulk

5 жыл бұрын

Season 7-8 were definitely rushed but they were at least still somewhat entertaining in a slightly mind-numbing type of way. Does nobody remember what a fucking SLOG Season 5 was?

@katesometimeslate158

5 жыл бұрын

@@fangal12 For me I put it like this. I'll never rewatch it because I can't handle where it went, but I'm glad I did when I didn't know where it was heading. It was a good show, but some series the ending matters more. and 3 seasons are a lot (We only forgive season 6 because it had some truly great episodes and scenes, but still wasn't that great overall. Still, I wish that was the low of the series and it picked up again...

@stemb0362

5 жыл бұрын

@@katesometimeslate158 I didn't like season 7 but I didn't hate it like I did 8. I figured they would clean up everything and put a nice bow on the final season but it didn't. That's my reasoning.

Sansa "I don't even know how to use a knife" Stark

First time watching you guys - great panel, loved it

‘Sansa Sansssa Saaansa Saannssaaaa’ I have replayed that six times now with a smile that’s starting to hurt my face

@RajashreeGhoshdiya

5 жыл бұрын

More like shansaaaah, shaansaaaaah

I love this HT Commentary as a slightly angry argument between the crew. So good

I must love ya’ll very much ‘cause your actually the only ones I was willing to watch talk about GOT nowadays... I retired myself from all podcast, forums, other KZread channels... I was done 🙄But thanks guys great trailer 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

I could listen to this panel all day long :) you are great guys :)

This honest trailer was sooo good. Great job guys.

This panel is gold 😍🙌🏽

love you guys and all the work you do! I just want to say though, the reason people yell at you to pause the trailer isn't because they want to hear the trailer -it's because we really want to hear what YOU are saying - and talking while the trailer is on drowns you guys out. I've never said anything about it before, never yelled at you about it! I get it, you get excited and sometimes you're just making a quick side comment to each other for a laugh, not wanting to pause and talk about an aspect of the trailer; and understandably no one wants to yell "pause" only to make a quick quip about Joe or something. I just wanted to clear up why people hate when you talk over the trailer. Not about hearing the trailer, just makes it much harder to hear you guys! Much love

Hope this longer, fuller format sticks!

The episode that gave me pause was actually Battle of the Bastards. It is one of my favorites, but I remember twitching when the Vail came from nowhere in the knick of time to save Jon. That was the beginning of Jon's plot armor that got thicker with each episode.

yeah boi!!! calling out the wheel of time straight away!!! loved those books

I really appreciate the longer format

Wow, finally a funny well-worked honest trailer. Glad y'all took longer than a day to write this one.

The issue with the ending isn't that they ran out of written material. They basically gave up on adapting the source material after they got through book 3.

Love the new format!

can someone please make a GIF of Lon and Spencer just staring at Dan at 6:35?

Woah, all hands on deck for this new approach. Me like.

16:51 I agree with that chair :D

@telectronix1368

5 жыл бұрын

Wow. Roth's disguises are getting better and better.

You can tell how much more emotionally invested everyone is in GOT by how much time they spent discussing it before actually starting the HT. This is pretty much an episode of Watching Thrones.

Still love you guys though and love the trailer. I’ve been waiting and waiting for this video lol

Yes Joe! Wheel of Time should be more violent and epic than GOT...

Haven't seen game of thrones but I love listening to all of you

43:19 "Plus, if you're looking for nudity on KZread then you don't know how to use the internet." I'm dying laughing, Joe's very casual tone just made that even better. KZread needs to put that in their guidelines or something because that's very accurate. There's so many places online for nudity. Go literally anywhere else.

@iancovell9201

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, put more in .. KZread is basically shitting on most people who use it, so their restrictions should be dealt with the same way...

I agree with everything that Spencer said this commentary, especially in the beginning.

25:38 will never ever not be funny to me. That song about Arya stark being a shape shifter now is endlessly hilarious 😂 🤣🤣🤣🤣

This was a great discussion, and I think that it works a lot better to have it on the main channel a day after the Honest Trailer. Thanks everybody. :)

Omg Preach baby, Testify!! Oh Take me to church, Let's go to chapel!! *In my best Southern Preacher voice*

I couldn't believe that on "I've made a terrible mistake" montage, you didn't cut to Will Arnett (GOB).

I could sense the hate in the trailer and I felt it was coming from Spencer haha. He is a godsend, I loved everything about how they shit on these final few seasons. This panel is amazing, so glad we had everyone. I usually find I don’t agree with Joe but loved everything he said in this episode

Poddrick singing is the only good thing in GOT season 8

@mojohvncho5418

5 жыл бұрын

vintage game Poddricks character was used as fan service the whole season

@MrGreenHulk

5 жыл бұрын

Not the acting? The CGI? The set design/costume design? The soundtrack? Some of the more deserved heartfelt character moments?

@JuanGomez-ke5py

5 жыл бұрын

with Elmo the crossover with Elmo maybe. a good thing

@vintagegame9

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrGreenHulkis was just a comment on the writers, sure the technical aspects and characters acting was good but the rush to end the series made it the disappointment it is.

They rolled out the all-star team for the new channel I see. I like it.

I just watched game of thrones for the first time the last two weeks.. I'm 34.. I decided early on to wait until the show was done

Okay so I’ve only just watched the final season of GOT bc....reasons. I don’t think enough is made of Jon Snow’s heritage coming to precisely ZERO after building it up as the central and most important through line in the series. What a waste of time! Jon didn’t need to sit on the throne at the end but his heritage needed to have SOME significance! Jesus! Jon could have had to fight his way through dragon fire to kill Danerys and end her tyranny as the only other Targaeryan heir for instance. But no, he just walks up to her and stabs her. ANYBODY could have done that!!!!!

Welp, looks like I'll tune in next week, this was good.

I was happy to see all five hosts

Regarding talking over the trailer. If I wanted to watch the trailer I'd watch the trailer by itself. I want to hear what you guys have to say and I can't when the trailer is playing over you.

The earliest "White Fanging" I have found is from an old movie called "The Yearling." A kid has to shoo away his baby deer.

*Its final season I'm sorry, but as the son of English majors, I can't help it.

Joe saying testify and take me to church

I usually watch the trailer then pretty much immediately the commentary. I missed the trailer yesterday but am jumping straight into the commentary.

@jonfarrow9862

4 жыл бұрын

This guy knows what's up

I've re-watched this 3x or something because Spencer is on fire. He's so damn funny on this video. "Hear me out..." "or like when Yoda busts a nut and he talk normal." "Dany's always been Qanon."