Honest Review of the Walmart Expert Grill $137.00, 15” Charcoal Pizza Oven / Better Than The Ooni ?
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Let’s take a look see at the Walmart Expert Grill Extra Large Pizza Oven! Better than an Ooni?
Here’s the link to John’s video about the dough…. • Homemade Pizza Part 1 ...
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Hey Tom - not sure if anyone pointed this out but for high temp pies I would recommend a few things - 1 - use a high protein flour (either bread flour or 00 flour) 2 - less toppings - the dough doesn't have much time to cook so lots of toppings will cause an under cooked dough. 3 - shred or dice your own cheese - that bagged cheese has cellulose to prevent it from clumping. Cheers, Nate
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Nate! Appreciate the feedback!
@alexivalencia6235
Жыл бұрын
Hit it on the head. Fewer toppings, better dough (no sugar! It burns!) No bagged cheese. Yikes.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Alex! Bagged cheese is bad too….had no idea
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Appreciate the feedback
@stevegee_smokinpapasteve
Жыл бұрын
@@SilverShadow2LWB I would also suggest using a low hydration dough (under 50%) if using 800F as it will cook faster
I’ve been kickin’ around buying one. Now you have made my mind up for me. I am definitely going to buy one. 👍 Thanks for the review. 🙏 😎 🇺🇸
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Dave! Enjoy!
@FinsL2R
Жыл бұрын
Same here!
Hey Tom, thanks for this video! I really like how you used the thermometer and cooked a pizza as part of your review. I've been considering this oven for a few weeks now. I'm definitely going to buy it.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching ! Enjoy!
Can't beat it for the price...great video Tom, thanks.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Bill!
Just picked one of these up, thanks for the vid! Can't wait to try it out
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks For Watching! Congrats!
Not bad for the price but i would tweak the oven a bit because the heat is too intense in the basket. I would cover the opening on the charcoal basket with stainless steel sheet towards the front so that 1/2 of the opening is only exposed to the top. That will keep the crust from burning. I would use way less charcoal too. Trial and error with any oven. Great video!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Appreciate the feedback!
@davy1972
Жыл бұрын
That's a good idea about adding the metal to block that heat. I put my pizza as far to the front as possible, making sure I turn quickly. The problem is the crust cooks faster than the bottom.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Agreed
@partone709
11 ай бұрын
No need for modifications I've never burned one y in this oven, just close the lid cook open lid and turn j7st stay with it and turn and turn the pizza turns out great.
Thanks for the review. I just bought one too. Can’t wait to try it out.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Steve! Enjoy!
I just ordered one for under $100. I’ve been looking about getting an Onni but just haven’t been able to justify the $500 yet. I’m glad I found your video.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Matt!
Thanks for this vid. I checked the app & saw it's in stock locally - and $20 less! Great review!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Good to know
HAHA, Tom! Our hair and glasses are so similar I thought I was seeing my own reflection in the bottom of the charcoal basket at 04:54 !
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Lol
Wonderful review , God bless you and family Tom
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching!
Great job on review and first pizza! Extra crispy😉
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Wade!
I don’t think you can go wrong with that at $137. Like any grill, there is always a learning curve. Always enjoy your reviews 👍. Thanks for sharing!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Michael!
@salocin911
2 жыл бұрын
$97 right now!
@MachuPichuu
11 ай бұрын
Got mine for $70!!
Given that any Ooni or kettle accessory would cost more, this offers a cost-effective alternative. Thanks for sharing this with us Tom.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Ted!
@Mamlookaboobooday
11 ай бұрын
@@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ Hi Tom picking one up this weekend. What size table is that ? 24x24?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
11 ай бұрын
@Mamlookaboobooday kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZYihy7SJXdO-Xaw.htmlsi=GMwI_phwWlY20Pfj
Bought my wife one for Christmas. we used it tonight, and I found that when making multiple pizzas, it's best to two, then reload box and let stone reheat because it does cool down quite a bit
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Ronnie! Appreciate the feedback
no word but simply AWESOME!!!!!!!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Brad!
Great video 😊 I have my own Expert Grill Pizza oven that I'm breaking in tonight. On sale for $97 right now! Construction is superior to pellet oven I paid $150 for! I think it's going to make better pizza too! Had SOME creosote stained pizzas from the pellet oven!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Jon! Enjoy!
Thanks for the review Tom. Quick question where did you get your little table
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Tim! Z grills sells it as an accessory
I bought one yesterday and used it for the first time today it works pretty well and for the price compared to an ooni it's a no brainer.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Jared! I agree!
@n1ksf
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm going that route in comparing it to others for 1/3rd-1/4rth the cost..for a starter oven, can't be beat till I get my brick one built! 🍕
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@michellechristner9969
2 жыл бұрын
Can you also put wood pieces in there too
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching ! Yes
Hello Tom, was at my local WallyWorld and picked up this model for $46.13 going to start making pizza this weekend!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! That’s a great deal! Enjoy!
Wow I was impressed. I'm getting one . Great vid Tom. Thank you.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Can’t beat it for the price!
@cookingwitheandv7977
2 жыл бұрын
I told my wife about it and she all ready ordered it. Pizza tomorrow baby!!!!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats! Enjoy!
Great review Tom 👌👌
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate you Watching and supporting!!
Great video! Thanks for posting Cheers Doc
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Doc!
Hey Tom, it seems they discontinued this pizza oven in the last year or so. I found one at a local walmart on clearance for $50!!!! can't wait to try it out
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Enjoy
Good review. I've been looking at small ovens and after reading and watching many reviews, I've set my mind on a charcoal model because the propane models really go through the gas! Question Tom, with the charcoal basket filled up and burning hot, did you have to add more charcoal for your bake? I usually do only two pizzas at any one meal and was hoping that one charge will do the job
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! No, one basket will do
Can’t wait for an update on this Tom. A few mor cooks. Maybe a little smaller diameter pie would prevent the crust from charring.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim! Yup, more practice needed
I love this little pizza oven. I purchased one back in July and made over 150 pizzas with it by now. Mainting the heat is a bit of a challenge but once the fire is hot, the pizzas come out amazing. This is worth penny in the $137, now on sale for $97 but I see it's sold out.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and for Watching!
@user-sq4dr3iz9o
Жыл бұрын
Doubtful the cost of charcoal would offset just buying a frozen pie and heating in toaster oven....
@jerseylife8701
Жыл бұрын
Damn, y’all are making me reconsider spending $600 on the 16” ooni gas oven
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
After a long day, frozen is delicious!
@tlwilkinson
10 ай бұрын
$70 on clearance today!
Love the video, Ill stick with my Akorn for pizza. You made me real nervous with that pizza sitting on the peel while you were talking, i was hoping it wouldn't stick. Keep us updated on how the over lasts over time.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Aaron! Will do!
Can’t wait to try this. Just got it on sale for $82 brand new in Sacramento.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Rudolph! That’s a great deal!
Picked one up today marked down to $40. Can’t wait to use it
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Stephen! Enjoy!
I'm getting one!! Looks like an AWESOME deal!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is! Thanks for watching!
I would probably try a 12" pie to get more room/make it easier to manipulate the pizza and gain space away from the fire.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching John. Appreciate the feedback
Hey Tom, I was excited to see you did the review on the Pizza Oven, I was the one who reached out to you a few weeks back. Are you going to try a Papa Murphy's take and bake in it also?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Curtis! Thanks for the tip! This gets too hot for take and bake, you need a crust with no sugar
The biggest challenge with these ovens is maintaining the temp. If you only make a couple pizzas it’s no big deal, but for parties, the charcoal/wood fire dance can be challenging. I burn oak because it’s hotter than charcoal.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Chris! Thanks for the feedback
Been using a stone on my Weber and have it down to a science. Although, for $137 I gotta give this a try. Thanks for the video Tom.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Eric!
As always liked you review It’s $59.00 at my local Walmart..! Thanks..for reviewing.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching George! That’s a great deal!
Nice video! What's the metal table you have it on? Any recommendations? Just bought a Z Grills 700 2C2E and am missing the table space. May have been mentioned previously, I've only recently started making my way through your videos though
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Gus! Got it from Z-Grills!
great video tom! which b&b lump charcoal is your favorite?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Hickory!
Def gonna pick on up tomorrow. Saw this at my Walmart today on sale for $82
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! That’s a great deal!
I bought that oven and love it so far. I've baked 4 pies and only managed to screw one up! That on came off the peel wonky and when I went to fix it, the edge of the peel wasn't down on the stone and put a small fold in the pie. only lost about 1 slice of the pizza so, it could of bee worse! Your wife has a Hobart!! Love those old mixers... a real work horse of a machine!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Appreciate the feedback and support
@royallclark6331
Жыл бұрын
@@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ BTW Tom, have you tried this oven using wood only?? If you have, what are your thoughts? Ya'll have a great day!!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
I have not
I'd stand a piece of firebrick up in front of the charcoal basket to create more indirect heat. I think it'd give more of a baking effect rather than 'surface of the Sun' effect.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Appreciate the feedback
Here is a nice trick I've seen done on other pizza oven/kits especially if you can't master the peel,use a pizza pan on the stone(I do on my kettle oven kit),easy to turn plus the stone isn't giving the flavor its the wood and charcoal with the high heat giving the results not the stone
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Christopher! Appreciate the tip
Thanks for the video. Just picked up clearance for $50
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Enjoy!
@taylorboyd4252
3 ай бұрын
Just got one for 45 dollars today!!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
3 ай бұрын
@taylorboyd4252 Thanks for watching Taylor! Congrats!
I wonder if you attached a piece of sheet metal to the front facing coal basket to prevent flames from charging the Pie. Letting only heat escape up along the roof. Do you think that would make a difference and if it's possible?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Not sure if that would work might back off the heat to much
For 800 degrees need a high hydration dough and proper 00 pizza flour with an appropriate "W" rating. All of these little tabletop ovens seem to easily burn pizza because the pizza is too close to the fire so constant rotating needing. In real wood pizza ovens, pizza is not next to the fire normally and is usually far away by the opposite wall.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching John!
@sidpackard8613
2 жыл бұрын
You have it backwards - high temp ovens require less dough hydration. The continuous turning isn’t an issue because the pizza is done in two minutes or less.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Sid!
Got mine for 35 bucks on sale. Marked down three different times. Just assembled and ready to fire up tomorrow.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Hank! Enjoy!
Best one Ive seen, stainless steel, got mine on sale for 97$ love it
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Dave!
It looks like it would be better to make a smaller pizza, as the sides reflective more heat. I might have to buy this Oven. Thank you,
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Thomas! Agreed!
6:01 Tom how old is that mixer? That thing has got to be from the 60s if it's Hobart branded and not Kitchen-Aid branded.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I believe it was my wife’s mothers
Thanks for the video. Can you use wood instead of charcoal?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Not sure that would work
I can not find a cover for my Expert Grill Pizza Oven. Not at Walmart, Amazon, eBay, Tractor Supply, or Ace. Does anyone have one? If so where did you get it? PS Good video.
Tom, I just checked Walmart and they have a "rollback" price of $97.00 as of 07/31/2022, and that's with free delivery.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching David! Congrats!
Would putting a high heat brick in the back near the basket help the crust from burning ?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for Watching Alex! Not sure, depends on how it’s configured
You could use this as a wood fired pizza oven if you have small enough chunks.... The stone should be around 650 for good results from what I have researched, 800, may be a bit on the hot side and yes, in these ovens the front door is probably not necessary because you need to constantly monitor and turn.....I personally and going to get one try it out and replace the stone with steel, steel is a game changer. Much better than a stone.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Todd! Enjoy!
@michaelmilitano3647
2 жыл бұрын
I replaced the stone with 1/4" steel plate..Works waaaaay better!, heats faster, crispier crust, I worry about it weighing more that twice as much as the stone though..
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear, might want to brace the legs
@jonathanpizarro9956
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmilitano3647 Where did you get the steel plate? I have tried making like 5-6 pizzas and all came with a bit of raw dough in the center of pizza. Only worked well when making a thin crust pizza.
@rakeshmistry1383
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmilitano3647 hi! Where did you get the steel plate from? And what size?
Wow! Great review, Tom. It's now on sale for $97!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Mick!
@x-man4702
2 жыл бұрын
I just bought one!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats! Enjoy!
@gabec2494
Жыл бұрын
$77 now, just bought today!
@mickreynolds3065
Жыл бұрын
Due to our heat wave this summer, I just got around to using it last night. Any tips for jacking up the heat? I had occasional forays into the 650-700 range, but it seemed to settle at about 450. I'm using it again tonight, this time with a lazy Susan and a round pizza stone for easier rotation.
Can you cook on a wood table? What is the temp like when the oven is full blast and you hold your hands about 6" from it near the bottom and the top and the sides for a while?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! No it gets too hot
That's not bad! I'll bet with some more practice and maybe do a slightly smaller pie will be successful. Very impressive for a lower price oven. If they can last over time will be key, not just a year or so.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Time will tell…
Tom how wide is your table? I’d like to make sure I get a wider one.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Steve! 24” w 35” l
Hey Tom……i watched your video with great interest…not understanding why you got a flare up on your stone?….did some pepperoni come off the pie and landed on the stone?…pepperoni has a lot of fat…..one thing I would suggest is maybe cooking a pizza without the front cover….it’s good to have some charring on the crust….keep us posted on your progress
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Mark! Appreciate the feedback and encouragement
im sure you have found the proper temps to cook these at by now, but a heads up, I worked for a "National chain" pizza franchise and we cooked ours @ 580°
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching!
Sprinkle a little cornmeal up under the crust is a slide off easier
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching!
BTW Thank you for informative review!!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching!
This is really great!! The charcoal pizzas taste so much better.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Charles!
Only thing it’s missing is the ability to adjust temp. I have an ooni and a roccbox and this would be very comparable to an ooni if you could adjust temp.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching!
Got mine as a birthday gift from my girlfriend. Can't wait to fire her up. Great vid.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Charlie! Congrats!
Tom, have you tried using pellets in the WM pizza oven?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! I have not
Just curious how well it will hold up over time. Can we get a follow up after say 10 cooks ? I'd like to see if any part of it starts to warp due to heat.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! You bet!
@jgz6989
2 жыл бұрын
Well.....keep your expectations low considering it's made out of beer cans.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching
@cjaquilino
Жыл бұрын
Mine’s fine. And I’ve had it since April 2022. Only thing that happens is that the burning carbon “stains" the coal basket metal. That was inevitable.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Appreciate the feedback
Have the wife get some OO caputo flour. Great for high heat and fast cook times. That’s what they use for traditional Neapolitan pizza.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Phillip!
@ROSKOE1972
2 жыл бұрын
correct!.. I use some 00 flour with king Arthur bread flour 12.7 content
Wondering if you can use wood in this? Some mesquite would be awesome. Have you tried cooking the pizza with the door off after the stone has been pre heated up to temp?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Yes to the mesquite. The door is only used during pre heat, the door stays off during cooking because you are turning the pizza very often
@socomon69
Жыл бұрын
wood adds no flavor in a 1-6 minute bake like you are going to do in this oven. there is no point.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! That’s not true…..
@socomon69
Жыл бұрын
@@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ Tom. how much smoke flavor you add in a smoker in 5 minutes? i suggest you try a blind taste test if you think you are actually getting smoke flavor in your pizza.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for watching and commenting… to you it may not seem feasible but it is, appreciate your opinion. Thanks
Just got mine on sale for $97 and it's freaking awesome!!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Bryan! Enjoy!
Thanks, Tom. Good show, as always. You give it to us hot and fast! I have a KJ3 (no pizza accessories) and found that 550-600 deg. is the best temp for pizza. Any hotter and the crust burns and/or doesn't cook evenly or doesn't cook the toppings. I'd rather it take 8-9 minutes at lower temps for a nice even bake. Also, found a BIG difference in crusts. Some can take the heat but most burn if the stone is too hot. I sometimes cool the stone with a wet cloth if it gets too hot, like over 450 deg. Those 365 thin crusts from Whole Foods are the best we have found. Well, heck, you probably forgot more about making pizzas on the grill than I'll ever know! Thanks again.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Appreciate the feedback!
@philipraimondo
2 жыл бұрын
You need to use the right type of flour to make your dough. Not all flour is the same. Neapolitan style is cooked at 900 plus degrees. They use caputo OO low moisture flour super fine… wont burn like traditional bread flour.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Appreciate the tip!
@tombauer7330
2 жыл бұрын
@@philipraimondo Thanks! Good info.
I got this oven and used is several times now. Purchased a second stone for my husbands gluten free pizzas. Hard time not letting the edge get burnt even with putting the pizza really close to the edge of the door. Then decided to make smaller personal size pizzas and didn't have as much of an issue with the burning. But I think I have not been waiting long enough for the stone to heat up, and even though I filled the charcoal tray It didn't get up past 700 degrees so not sure what's up with that. Over all the pizza tasted awesome. I add in a couple chunks hickory wood a few minutes before putting the pizza in for more smokey flavor
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Haven’t gotten mine over 800, the wood does help
The reason this oven is $140 is because the outer shell is not stainless and the bolts are not stainless. I suspect it will rust if left out. A can of grill paint could be used to touch it up.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Chris! You are most likely correct
Any videos of after using it a few times and gotten used to it
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Mickey! kzread.info/dash/bejne/amVnyMuropnMj5s.html,,,,,,kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z66TpdNynNzRj5c.html
Having issues with the bottom not cooking and the top ends up burning cause of the time the bottom takes to cook. And the dough sticks to the rock when I first try to rotate it. Any tips? Awesome video by the way!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Juan! Sometimes it’s the dough, try a dough without sugar, I’ve had good luck with pre made doughs from my local grocery store
@gonedeep43
Жыл бұрын
Make sure the stone is HOT!! That will help with the sticking. And use a sugarless dough.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Thomas!
@tlwilkinson
10 ай бұрын
A little corn meal or flour on the peel will help keep the bottom of the pizza from sticking.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
10 ай бұрын
@tlwilkinson Thanks for watching!
Less charcoal or let it burn down a little is my suggestion or less charcoal and a couple chunks of hickory wood?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching John! Yup, gonna try again today
@johnhowaniec5979
2 жыл бұрын
@@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ definitely to hot 🔥 try half the amount of lump and a chunk of wood? Or let it burn down a little.. going to take some experimenting for sure!
@johnhowaniec5979
2 жыл бұрын
And turn it every 20 to 30 seconds.
Ah, now this is a candidate for some Neapolitan style za ! Light fluffy quick bakes, yum.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Howard!
what kind of a table do you put this on? des it get too hot for wood or plastic?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Wouldn’t use it on wood or plastic, keep on watching, I’ll be previewing an all metal table made specifically for pizza ovens like this
Can you use wood pellets instead of charcoal on this one?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! No
A bit dark on the crust but good is still good! Very reasonably priced pizza oven. I’m sure we’ll be treated to more cooks on this! Thanks for sharing Tom!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Jay!
Any idea on what the purpose of the hole in the bottom is?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Allows any moisture that may end up under the stone during storage to drain.
You put the pizza in before it was hot enough. I have an Ooni Karu and in order to get the crust to be cooked thoroughly and crispy, the pizza stone needs to be at about 900 degrees. That way the crust cooks well without burning the top. Takes about 90-120 seconds to cook completely.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Appreciate the tip
@Jon651
2 жыл бұрын
I have an Ooni Karu as well and learned that you rotate the pizza every 30 seconds (NOT every 45-60 seconds). Either that or learn to enjoy burnt crust! The other thing is to absolutely ensure that the stone is hot enough as it will take much longer to reach proper cooking temp than the air inside the oven. Even the amount of toppings you put on your first pizza are a bit much for this style of pizza cooking, which contributed to the soggy crust. My primary tip when you get into this type of pizza oven is that many larger grocery stores sell pre-made pizza dough in their bakery (one ball can easily make two pizzas). I suggest using that so you can perfect your oven game before getting into making your own dough.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Appreciate the feedback
Anyone know what type of pizza oven cover will fit on the Expert Grill?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Daniel! I have no idea
I wanted an Ooni, but when price dropped on this to $97, decided what the heck. I can't get it to reach really high temps. W/ stone the deck was around 600ºF. With lump charcoal I could get the air temp thermometer up to around 800. Oh I added big hickory chunks to get flame. Replaced stone w/ 1/4" pizza steel (from attempt to turn grill into pizza oven) Steel up to only 700. There is a reason it's cheap. Not saying it's junk, but if you expect 900º like the Ooni......not happening. You can make a Neapolitan style at the lower temps, but it's not quite right. I'll eventually pony up the cash for an Ooni.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Joseph! Appreciate the feedback, hopefully you’ll report back with your Ooni
@joseph-ow1hf
Жыл бұрын
@@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQThanks Tom. Was not trying to step on your review. I may try something goofy like using a blower to get more air moving over the coals to boost temp. Seems like I remember Alton Brown did this w/ a kettle grill in his book to sear steak. I would put this on par w/ using the steel in my rectangular charcoal grill, where I put coals up on the cooking grate next to the steel to simulate pizza oven. Works, but uses a lot of fuel. If opting for the Walmart.....I'd say at this point, get something like a frozen Frescetta, let it thaw and then bake. Be way better than in conventional oven, but don't bother w/ trying to make dough and expect good pizzeria results. But this opinion is only after a few test. Who knows? May discover the secret and end up loving it.
I literally just got this an hour ago as a bday gift. Trying to figure out if it’s worth keeping or not 😂
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Derek! Enjoy!
FYI 400 series stainless steel is magnetic . Just because it is magnetic doesn't mean it isn't stainless steel. By the way it shines I am sure it is stainless steel.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Appreciate the feedback
Nice! Where did ya get the table?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Off of Amazon
Nice Pizza Oven, I would stick with burgers 🍔 and Brats. Tell The Misses nice dough. Happy Memorial Day.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching John! Happy Memorial Day!
I think a smaller pie would work better. .less burner on the edges..but it still looks 👍 good.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Dave! Iagree
hey are you able to use wood in this? even tho its marketed for charcoal
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Michael! You can use wood chunks with the charcoal
@michael56milker
Жыл бұрын
@@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ thanks Tom :)
My advice is turn down the temp to 650. You can also use sugar at that temp.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Gerald!
Sweet just picked one up on clearance for $49
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Enjoy!
I have cooked numerous pizzas and still can’t get the bottom cooked! Also can’t get stone over 450 no matter what I do!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Bob! Try would chips or pellets on the hot coals
It works really good for pan de campo
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching! Not sure what that is
I seen this last and went WOW!!! Pizza is my 2nd fav food and I am thinking $137.00. I've paid more for a lot worst... Expert Grill seems to be stepping up their game this year. Have you seen their Kamado? Great video
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Britt! I’ve seen pictures, looks allot like the Akorn
Pizza looks yummy! I thought it did a good job for a $100;dollar pizza oven. Thanks for Sharing!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Darin! I agree! For $137.00. It’s a no brainer!
@dkidl2000
2 жыл бұрын
@@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ If you put a cast-iron skillet in there at 800 degrees you'll burn off the seasoning on your cast-iron skillet.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Good to know! Thanks
Looks awesome
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Thomas!
OK Tom, I got one of these. After watching videos on this I knew not to walk away when cooking and rotate every 30-45 seconds. One thing I see for an issue with this. The top/edges cooks really fast and the bottom, not so good. Since the pizza stone is heated from the top, as soon as the pizza is put o the stone there is no stone heating any more. And the stone goes from 600F to 400F really quick. So, 3 minutes in (with rotating) the edges and top are finished cooking and the bottom is just getting started. The third pizza I made last night actually had the middle still kinda doughy. Yes, I let the oven heat up for 25 minutes so without any pizza inside the temps looked good and steady at around 600F. If we could figure out a way to get heat for the bottom of the stone so it doesn't cool down when the pizza is put inside, this would be a better pizza oven. Just my opinion.
@tim_bbq1008
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe replace the stone with a thicker one?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Mike! The second set of pizzas I did I went with thinner crust, and it was pretty crisp, plus I think with some extra attention that 700 might work better. Thanks for the feedback Mike
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching Tim, thermal mass is always good, another stone cut down to fit is a pretty good idea…
@randomactsofcooking
2 жыл бұрын
@@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ I was thinking maybe cast iron or steel plate but those might be too heavy without adding support to the legs so they wouldn't splay out.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed Mike, threaded rod attaching the front to the front about half way down should work, some for the back, but they seemed more steady
Maybe try natural lump charcoal, it burns hotter.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Good idea!
To avoid getting a soggy pizza you can always pre cook the pizza without the ingredients. For a minute or so or until a light brown toast. As the cheese melts it releases water vapor onto the dough during the cooking, that is why you get a soggy pizza.
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Appreciate the tip
@Travis2L
Жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t have to
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Watching!
@Travis2L
Жыл бұрын
@@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ question: so which one of these recent pizza ovens do you like the most. New stuff comes out everyday. Hard to keep Up!
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Travis! Waiting on the new Blackstone stand alone pizza oven to come out. If it anything like the old one, that will be the one