You do such a awesome job reviewing machines you actually know what your talking about and not a youtube salesman!!!

@ShockTherapyllc

4 жыл бұрын

All-IN Offroad you are very kind sir. Our only issue with these reviews are the time. We want to test and improve so bad it can take us a long time to get these out there.

@Allinoffroad

4 жыл бұрын

@@ShockTherapyllc Well we know you guys are thorough because your quality products reflect that for sure !!!!

@ShockTherapyllc

4 жыл бұрын

All-IN Offroad you rock. Thank you.

Outstanding review! I want to see one of these units in person. I’m in the market for a machine and have narrowed it down between Rzr and the Talon

Great video. informative and to the point. You have a new subscriber !

Best breakdown yet.

I think the best way to explain the sensors learning your driving patterns is algorithms. Who thought algorithms could be used for something other than the Internet.

Love my Talon X with Shock Therapy spring kit in West Virginia. Only thing I disagree with is the assessment that the Talon X is a "trail" model comparable to the RZR 900 or 1000 S. It's way beyond those machines. To compare to the Polaris product, I think it's more in the category of the RZR XP 1000 at 64" wide and trailing arm rear suspension.

I’m really curious to hear your impressions of the Talon X after you’ve driven it! You currently have my shocks and springs at your shop waiting for the full Monty Ride Improvement System treatment and I can’t wait to get them back and on the machine! I do 90% rough and rocky trail riding and I found the X suspension to be way to stiff in those conditions. So stiff in fact after the first ride in the Talon my wife announced she’d much rather ride in our 50” RZR 900 Trail with its 10” of suspension travel and factory shocks... that’s not a compliment to the RZR! Any level of speed through a whoop section resulted in neck snapping, rear bucking, out of control white knuckle, hang on driving, and slow speed trail riding over cobbled rock would jar your teeth loose. Not fun! I’m sure hoping that what I get back from Shock Therapy is a whole new level of control and comfort for an otherwise great machine.

@funwithguns89

4 жыл бұрын

So did shock therapy improve the ride? Was it worth the $$?

Where's the test drive video? I can't find it.

Love your brain and ability to share your knowledge. Any chance you could tell me which machine would last longer- YXZ or Talon? Mostly trail riding. Probably some rock crawling. I like to go fast and push the machine to its limits.

@PickupsAreNotTrucks

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty hard to beat Honda reliability. I’ve only had my talon for a year but have had Honda ATVs we’ve beat the hell out of and they’re still running top notch. One sat in a slew in a cow pasture for 6 months after it fell through the ice. Changed the oil and it was back on the road the next summer. Honda’s are damn tough!

Its been a year, How's this machine measure up in the long run?

Anyone that grow up on Honda big reds, have never bought any other brand

Looks like you went to ride now surprise 👍🏼

Where is the test drive video?

Great review. The jump zoom is horrible.

Awesome review , been doing a lot of research on what SXS to buy, Then BOOM Honda comes to the table. I always been a person to never buy the first year of any new product. I'm currently looking at the Honda 1000x-4 fox live valve. I'm hoping that 2021 model is based on the 1000r. I talked to Jackson Racing as of Jan.2, 2020 the 1st shipments of Factory approved Turbo Kits are going out Friday Jan, 31 2020. They are just under 6K. My Question with the live valve shock set up. Are you working on a mod for this shock setup.

@ShockTherapyllc

4 жыл бұрын

Actually we are in the middle of testing the four seat Honda with live valve right now. Our review of all the Talons will be out in a week or two but the improvements we have been able to gain in the 4 seat live valve have been exceptional to say the least.

Aww Yeah!! .....the Talon!!

How much do these bad boys run for ?

What are your thoughts on the Talon 4 and putting 32's on it? Or should I just but a Polaris Turbo S and get one factory set up for 32's? I was just not sure how the Turbo S would do for just trail riding. Is the ride decent if it is not used for jumping and racing on the Talon 4? If not, do you think your spring kit would work? I'm looking for a trail buggy with the family.

@ShockTherapyllc

3 жыл бұрын

Tough one. We run 32's and now 33's on our Talon with zero issues accept we have finally worn out a CV. 3500 miles on it. The ride quality on a Talon is rough and stiff. Even in the electronic shocks. This would be my concern with trail riding. Not plush enough. The Turbo S is plush and would work killer for the trials accept for width. So if you don't have any width restricted trails in your area the Turbo S would work great. It trail rides just fine.

Curious what you think about the fox live valve suspension on the talon 1000x-4

@ShockTherapyllc

4 жыл бұрын

Ven Kobby the live valve is great and better than the dynamix system as far as ECM speed goes but it still has the bad rear geometry of the Honda to overcome. It is stiff and bucks just like the two seaters. After it is played with and tuned it rides 100% better and is quite nice but is not going to be as nice as the same system on a Polaris strictly due to rear suspension design.

car /kär/ noun A four-wheeled road vehicle that is powered by an engine and is able to carry a small number of people. Also used for cars on a train or an elevator.

I cant believe these guys would allow a Mike Bloomberg advertisement. Still good informative material.

@ShockTherapyllc

4 жыл бұрын

shane cochran 😂 we cant choose the adds KZread places.

@maskman1100

4 жыл бұрын

Shock Therapy llc No sweat, you guys are awesome. Its just painful to click on your video and being exited to see your content and then having that creep pop up.

@DUNEATV

4 жыл бұрын

shane cochran Lol! No kiddin Trump 2020!

Would you buy a talon 4 seater or a xp 4 turbo? I’m on the fence between Honda Polaris???

@ShockTherapyllc

3 жыл бұрын

It would depend on what your going to do with it. Terrain, driving style, ect

@trialnterror

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShockTherapyllc I drive mountains 80% Moab 20% of the time I don’t go to the dunes

@ShockTherapyllc

3 жыл бұрын

@@trialnterror In that case I assume your not driving fast through the whoops much. If so the Honda is great. Only negative is super slow rock crawling. I know a lot of people don't like to slip the clutch all the time when going 1 mph over rocks. If that isn't your style then Honda all the way

Surprised you didn’t mention the poor location of the gauge cluster...

@ShockTherapyllc

4 жыл бұрын

Just wait. Our review of the car after driving it for 3000 miles is coming soon.

@DUNEATV

4 жыл бұрын

Shock Therapy llc 👍

@426moparman426

4 жыл бұрын

Shock Therapy llc why do you keep calling it a car?

@DUNEATV

4 жыл бұрын

Beastly_420 A lot of people do that because it has 4 wheels and a steering wheel...it does sound odd thou.

I appreciate all you said about this Honda talon, but you didn't say anything about the center located speedometer etc. which is not where it should be!(in FRONT of the DRIVER) You also didn't say anything about the small storage area's,or the fact that ALL of their accessories are 3 times higher in cost than any others. And what about the fact that the air box intake is in the rear wheel well, where it sucks in dirt like crazy, and requires you to change the air filter more quickly than other machines in the same class. Just a few thoughts!

@650ic6

2 жыл бұрын

Your only valid complaint is the air intake/filter issue. The speedometer takes a second to dart your eyes over to read it. The accessories don’t cost three times more than other manufacturers. I installed a particle separator and now the dirty stock filter issue is eliminated.

@1gr8oil

2 жыл бұрын

@@650ic6 My son-in-law has the 2019 Talon X, and we installed a winch (after market) as the Factory one was over $1,200.00! He also installed the S&B Particle separator. I have nothing BAD to say about how it runs and drives, but don't like the factory accessories, as they are much higher in cost than my CanaAM.

How does this trans compare to the YXZ?

@DUNEATV

4 жыл бұрын

It’s transmission is a lot more complicated than the YXZ.

@ShockTherapyllc

4 жыл бұрын

I think the Honda is much better. It is a dual clutch system and it will shift for you with intelligent learning as well as manual control options.

@phubarnow5388

4 жыл бұрын

@@DUNEATV True, this transmission and the technology have been in Honda's stable of machines for many years now, the kinks have been worked out years ago, their Goldwing has a 7 speed DCT that rocks!

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07:45 Exposing the dark underbelly of the 3rd party accessory marketplace.. "are gonna have their hands cut out (to make those mounts)".

Great review, but you need to fire the editor. The jump zooms are completely obnoxious and annoying with no motivation for them. Tell your editor to take an editing class.

@ShockTherapyllc

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. I will take every opportunity I can to talk a little smack with him. Thank you for the ammunition.

@nathannookie

4 жыл бұрын

Shock Therapy llc 🤣🤣. Too bad. It’s in excellent review of the Talon , but makes you crazy with all the jump zooms.

3:30 Is this a marketing plug? An open diff with brakes has no where near the same capability a locked front end has. With a locker, torque flows dynamically between the wheels based of traction. No wheel will slip unless both have too much power. On the ground, the honda has no real way of measuring which wheel to brake without one slipping, so it's reactive vs the natural torque flow of a locker. With a fully locked drive line all drive torque can "theoretically" be driven through any one wheel at any given time. If these systems were anywhere near as capable, then manufacturers like Jeep, Hummer, Chevy, Ford, Toyota, LR, and more wouldn't even use lockers and other advanced traction devices. Why wouldn't Honda just use an open rear diff with traction control as well? Heck, why not use 3 open diffs to give it the best turning performance? . At speed, sure it's fine and better for handling. On slow trails you can, and will, lose huge amounts of torque transfer because the front end loses traction on one wheel causing the whole differential to lose torque... since open diffs send torque 50/50, the wheel with the least traction limits the one with the most traction to its torque level. With crawling, weight transfer makes traction loads far more uneven which further exacerbates this. ie, if one wheel has 10 ft lbs and the other has 100, then they both get 10 ft lbs for total of 20. With a locker it can handle 110ft lbs before spinning sending 10 to one wheel and 100 to the other. A brake based system would have to guess the correct brake pressure to even get both wheels to have anywhere near that. ie, if the system brakes the 10 ft lbs wheel with 60ft lbs of force then it gets 70 driven to both hubs but 80 to the ground. And if the brake system over brakes the wheel it will hurt momentum. ie, brakes 150 ft lbs of force would lock up the 10ft lbs wheel completely and restricting the vehicle's acceleration. . Maybe if honda used a helical diff that has proportional lock up to the torque flowing through it, but an open diff with brake based traction control is not in the same league as a locked differential. It's not best of both worlds. Subaru's DCCD diff is probably the closest thing. Helical differential with electromagnetic clutch to quickly change its lock-up and can do so without impeding momentum through the use of brakes.

@gregorysauter6759

3 жыл бұрын

Don't own a Talon, but this is pretty impressive... kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6yNqbd6nZDad8Y.html

Couldn't make it through the video cause he keeps calling it a car. A Corvette is a car!!!

@650ic6

2 жыл бұрын

car /kär/ noun a four-wheeled road vehicle that is powered by an engine and is able to carry a small number of people.

its not a car it is a side x side

@650ic6

2 жыл бұрын

car /kär/ noun a four-wheeled road vehicle that is powered by an engine and is able to carry a small number of people.

I've never seen a "car" that looks like a buggy.🤔

@650ic6

2 жыл бұрын

car /kär/ noun a four-wheeled road vehicle that is powered by an engine and is able to carry a small number of people. Or a train car or elevator car.

And 5 months later you hate the Honda! 😂

It’s not a car smh

@ShockTherapyllc

4 жыл бұрын

Hayden Nelson it’s got a steering wheel, seat belts, seats more than 1 person, 4 wheels, multiple speed auto trans and many many other similarities to car. It’s more of a car than a bike

@Justin-wu8cb

4 жыл бұрын

Shock Therapy llc I don’t call it a car but in some states you can drive it on the road without modification. Some states you have to make modifications like add turn signals and other safety features in order to drive on the street legally so it’s kinda like a car lol. Expensive way to get around town but if you’re in snowy areas, could be useful and they do make 4 seater utility model that has a bed so it’s kinda like driving a mini truck

@damyatt7676

3 жыл бұрын

@@ShockTherapyllc My Tacoma and Highlander have all those options, are they cars to you also?

@ShockTherapyllc

3 жыл бұрын

Damyatt yes. Duhh

@650ic6

2 жыл бұрын

car /kär/ noun a four-wheeled road vehicle that is powered by an engine and is able to carry a small number of people.

Why do you keep calling this utility terrain vehicle, a car? Lol so annoying hearing you keep saying it...

@650ic6

2 жыл бұрын

car /kär/ noun a four-wheeled road vehicle that is powered by an engine and is able to carry a small number of people.